Oh, I was so relieved that I don't have to learn some strange sound that is apparently very difficult for a lot of people... and then I just produced it after reading this comment.
Thank you I can finally replicate this horrible sound when I rant about how horrible it is! Lol but deep down of course I love it, I only hate it because I could not understand it 😔
It drives me crazy when people use it for every single i sound - definitely have noticed it the most in teenage girls like you said. I call it the Stitch sound
Thanks for letting us know. As a someone who's just starting to learn Swedish, I literally thought I had to pronounce this sound for every single "I" hahaha
The voice in the Duolingo Swedish course pronounces the "i' like this, so that might be a reason why so many people are asking you about it! I also got a sore throat trying to pronounce it.
Well, it's a continuum. The Swedish "i" is realized in the front of the mouth making it sound more squeezed than an English ee sound. However, people often jump to conclusions that this has to be exaggerated a lot and it makes it "caricaturic".
Wow. I had noticed all sorts of different i and y sounds but I had never noticed that they buzzed, but I do think girls around my age (30s) or younger tend to really compress their Is and Ys, and by "compress" I mean it sounds sort of like they've sucked on helium but without the super high pitched thing... I've never really noticed a buzzing. But yeah I think a lot of people in every endeavour worry about things WAY about their level. Like I've never heard of it by name, and I'm probably more fluent than most people who haven't lived in Sweden... so yeah... more time reading and listening people!
You don't really have to buzz it, like I said in the video, keep down the buzzing but if you really want to try the sound, I think beginning with a voiced S will help.
Even if that was a Native sound, sounding like a native is not my priority when learning a language. I prefer to focus on grammar and clear pronounciation (clear doesn't mean "like a native")
Thank you! I was just watching a Swedish Netflix show (love and anarchy) and noticed the main character does this a lot and I hadn’t noticed the sound before. I tried searching what the sound is and it brought me here!
@@sayitinswedish I would like to have the sound first and the explanation later. You: I'm going to talk about a sound Me: Fast forward until I hear the sound.
I fist heard this viby i in Love is Blind Sweden. I thought it was such a strange, unpleasant sound-like someone talking when they are gagging. I thought it was a normal part of Swedish.
I've been living here in Sweden for about 9 months now, and man it's a tough language to learn. But the vibey-i is so bizarre! It seems to be used heavily on TV. I find it so strange that it often makes me lose track of concentrating on the sentence being spoken. It's really, really common on TV, particularly with females. The ingressive gasp is strange enough, but the vibey-i... man it's weird. I looked into it and even found scientific papers written up on it. I don't even try it.
I noticed this for the first time when I was watching Bonusfamiljen on Netflix. Bianca (the daughter did this), and my Swedish bf at the time didn't do it, neither did his parents or anyone else I met, and I was like, "what is that weird buzzing sound??"
I think it's almost equivilant of vocal fry in valley girl american speak. I have a bizarre accent, having grown up in NZ with speaking swedish to my dad only, my english mother and learning latin at school lol
I know it's not. I started hearing women using it in films . I learned to speak Swedish in the 60's and I only heard it in certain dialects. It is similar to the verbal fry in American English.
What's funny is that I never heard this while in Stockholm, and even asked some Stockholmers about that sound and they weren't sure what I was talking about. Kind of funny. But my friend from Gothenburg does it all the time. I've tried and simply cannot do it.
Thank you for this video!🙏 I was one of the people who requested you explaining the pronunciation of i, I noticed that mostly girls do this here in Gothenburg.
It is also prevalent in Gothenburg. I remember in my first days here, I was in the process of leasing a car and the dealer would use that sound while he is talking to his buddy about my “bil”. I gathered some ball and asked him why the hell he made that weird non-standard sound. It took him a minute to realize what I am referring to, then he repeated it in the most annoying way to teach me I suppose 🤣🤣. The twist is: he looked Eastern European.
Joakim will you try to do some swedish dialects impression videos next time? Would like to know further about dialectal differences in sweden like people in Skåne doesnt have a thrilled-"R" sound and people in Göteborg always end their phrases with "-eller?!" And people in Varmland sounds very much like almost Norwegian and so on😄
The sound is standard to my Swedish. A lot of the materials I used to learn had this sound in them and I learned to use it. My partner cannot make this sound and will be happy to know it’s not necessary! :)
It's a spectrum. Learners usually exaggerate it and some Swedes do. However, it's still on the spectrum of the regular i sound, that's why it sounds standard to you.
Ah I have never been able to make this sound! As I'm learning Swedish, I've heard this from so many Swedes, it always sounded so nasal to me! I also can't do a rolling "r", but it's easy to manage without.
Glad to know I don't have to learn how to make this sound, but I also have to say that this "i" sound is something I really love about the Swedish language! Anyway... You're just amazing, grazie❤️
I’m not even studying Swedish but have noticed this mildly when watching Swedish shows. But I just finished watching Baracuda Queens and it was SO prominent I had to google “what the F is this weird Swedish throat sound” And how funny because the show features rich teen girls ! Honestly it’s a relief I don’t need to make this sound if I ever want to study Swedish. It’s kinda gross sounding. Love this video - it’s awesome and spot on!
I pretty familiar with Norwegian so I was excited to watch Love is Blind Sverige but there were a couple women making this sound EVERY sentence and it was driving me insane. Thank you for explaining this.
So, that's like the Turkish i-without-the-i-dot, they have an extra letter for that, together with the "normal" i with the dot. I noticed that already in the 1990s, but the Swedes I met then (in Southern Sweden) did not know how to explain that to me, they did not use it. But on SVT it was there very often ...
I spend 3-6 months in a rural farming in the Kopparberg area and everyone has the vibe-y i to some degree, more common with women. I hear it in TV talk shows, regular TV, movies, basically everywhere. Most people I hang out with are over 30, mostly over 60. I have no contact with under 30’s. You're the first Swedish language RUclipsr that rags on the sound that it's a poser thing to do. I've asked my friends about it and they have no idea what I'm talking about, they're unaware that they're making the sound.
Never said it's a poser thing to do. But foreigners think it's required to sound Swedish which it isn't. You can sound Swedish without it and the more extreme version sounds weird even to Swedes.
I love the sociolinguistic aspects of this; now I might have to learn Swedish just so I can annoy people with a buzzing I. :-) It almost sounds like the Swedish version of the “Valley Girl” speech or the Turkish “Tiki” kids. Kids affecting a sound that they think makes them sound more hip or upper class. Born with a silver spiiin in their mouths. :-)
Thank you so much for explaining this, I got so frustrated hearing it in lessons and I had no idea how or why to use it. I'm happy to just ignore it from now on.
The buzzing "I" Stockholmers make is totally different from the buzzing "I" locals on the Swedish west coast uses. Stockholmers pronunciate the "I" in the front of their mouth, while people from Bohuslän articulate it in the back of the mouth. 🙂
I was wondering if that was the sound made by the young blond woman on SVT Rapport. She's really emphatic about the I sound. I was thinking, "how am I going to learn that?"
Jag funderade så pass jätte ofta på den här "I sound". Är det har bara helt enkelt den rätta "I sound"?? Lyckligtvis är det inte sant och övar jag inte på den så här än, men jag tycker lite om "ljudet" ;-). Tack för förklaringen!!
I'm so glad I found this!! I thought I was going crazy. One thing: it would be super helpful if you made at least a whole sentence using the sound. Then it really has a chance to come across! 😉
People have heard the sound so many times I just wanted to explain this. A lot of people think that the regular long i is difficult, but it's a continuum and the extreme variant is not required to be able to make.
@@sayitinswedish The information you provided was very helpful! I'm so glad I'm not the only one being put off by this sound (hate to criticize anyone's accent but hey, I've heard many Swedes make fun of Danish, time for balance😅.) But at least one full sentence showing what you're talking about in the language you're talking about is always very clarifying imho.
I'm so glad it's non-standard cuz I find it grating on the ear. That and the way people from Skåne do something like a Danish stød. The thing that irks me to this degree in English is uptalking or High Rising Terminal (HRT) amongst the linguists. It tends to get associated with dumb valley girls from California but has become more widespread and it makes people sound really stupid imho.
Thank goodness! I've actually not only had problems with this sound, but had extreme difficulty not even knowing what to call it when asking my spouse (a native Smålandian) about it. You just saved us a ton of time on "you know, THAT sound!" "What sound?!?!?"
Thanks for letting me know. ;__; I have family in Värmland, who none of them making that i-sound, and I couldn't explain to them what I've been hearing on the TV (those who were making the Viby-i)... My attempts that trying to produce this sound was hilarious to them. LMAO
I sound very weird when I talk a lot and my Russian accent gets out of control😂 and in combo with this ”I” and skånish ”å” (öa) cause I live in Malmö. Omg 🙈that doesn’t sound good at all😂So ur absolutely right 😂
Say It In Swedish I’m trying to work on it. But sometimes it comes naturally because most of my friends and teachers at university speak skånish. 🙈 Söa de e lide svöart för maj😂😂😂
I like the long /i:/ in swedish, but not this "very strong compressed" version you presented in this video 😂😂 it's a very exaggerated version to me. The version I like is just a little bit different than a normal long /i:/ , as you explained: a more open /i:/ but without buzz 😂
I love the Stockholmska i.. As a talare of Swedish som undra språk, Swedish vowel are difficult to differentiate.. Så when I use it for my i's, I feel it makes it cleared what word I'm trying to say.. I know I don't have to do it.. I sound more rikssvenska.. I still use it..
Even as far up north as Västerbotten, young teenage girls use that horrible sound. They try to sound as upper-class as they possibly can. So frustrating to listen to. 😑 I think a thick Swedish accent when someone speaks English is about as ugly as English can get - but this is a complete nightmare 😱
i remember first figuring out how to pronounce it and using it with practically every word but then i listen to northerners and barely say it these days lmao
A sound I have trouble with is the -rg sound at the end of words like berg or arg. I dont know if it's just me but I cant really figure out what's happening there. Doesnt really sound like Barry or Arry. Something happens with the "r" that I dont know. Maybe I'm thinking about it too much.
Nothing happens with the r sound but the j is a half-vowel so it's not exactly like -rry although you come pretty close with that. It's the same sound as the y in yolk for instance.
Sounds like the Korean eu ㅡ, the Japanese u and the Mandarin i (in some phonemes), the sound people make when they feel gross about something, it's almost like a schwa but with a narrow lips that shapes like when pronounced an I.
Please don't use this if you're trying to make friends from traditional working class areas. Particularly in the north. It's a sure fire way to get "norrlänningar" to think you are from "fjöllträsk"..
For some reason, when I started learning Swedish, I would always pronounce "precis" with that i. My friends got a kick out of that since I was learning västgötska mainly :') no idea where that came from!
OMG TACK!!! Detta uttal var över hela Stockholm men min svenska lärare visste inte vad jag pratade om nar jag frågade! Också hur stavar man det? "vibu i"?
A Man called Ove and Bonus family (which is a series). I unfortunately don’t have any additional suggestions, but I can’t wait to hear what others recommend!
Hey guys, as you asked for some Swedish movies and tv series to watch, I suggest you to watch one of my favorite ones, "Låt den rätte komma in" (Let the right one in), it's a beautiful movie!
Some of my Swedish relatives do this, I thought it was just dialect but now I want to know if they're just trying to sound posh. I can't do it for the life of me, no problem with sk/sj ironically.
No, I don't think they're trying anything. It's a continuum and the less extreme version is very much a part of every day life. Foreigners tend to overdo it or complain about not being able to do it and it's not really required.
I've thought about that too. My guess is that they assume that Swedish has a standard pronunciation, like other languages, and when you hear this in movies and on TV, you assume that this is the way to go. But yeah.
@@sayitinswedish Idk i just find it weird how they've picked up on it like it's a common occurrence when i can't even consciously come up with someone who does even if make an effort to
Hahaha I think in many languages there is that “wealthy sound” that some people use and sounds annoying... so I totally get you haha also in Italian sounds strange when not native speakers (I am not a native speaker) try to use the dialects...at least sounds weird to me
Yeah, using dialects seriously, when starting out, can sound out of place. However, it's different if the person actually lives in the area and gets influenced by its native speakers.
hearing that sound gives me an image of someone twisting their tongue sideways in their mouths to do it. No idea why, but that's the image I have. also, it kinda sounds like the noise people make for yuck or disgusting ... "eeew!" I’m Rather glad I don't need to learn that thing though because for someone at the most basic beginner level you can get, those vowels are kind of intimidating.
🇸🇪🤣""" ÅH!!!! SOUND""" 😲...Lol 😆 . I am mexican and I live in the south of Sweden where I study in SFI. My classmates and me have noticed that swedish here make a sound while they talk that is like showing they are surprised. My husband is Swedish and he only makes this sound while he speak his language, never during a conversation in English. When I ask to Swedish people about this, nobody knows what I meant even if me or some of my classmates (mostly from Germany, Syria, Poland) show and imitate that sound in front of them. For example , My husband is going to the apotek and asks for a medication and the woman there explains that he needs prescription because of many reasons so while she is speaking to inform him ,he makes like a short " Ååhh!!! " ( like inhaling) at the time that he open his mouth and eyes and raises the eyebrows ( surprised face) . Then he answer to the woman and tells her that he has called the doctor but the receptionist said that he is not available until Monday-so now is the pharmacy woman who makes the sound while he speaks, she makes like :" ÅH!!!😲 ,too. My husband got it now because he recorded a conversation and I could show him how and when people was making that sound. Note: It's not the sound they make instead of saying "Ha", which is also like inhaling, I mean a very different one.
Do you meaning the inhaling A sound that is used to acknowledge that we have understood what the other party has said and to indicate that we are still listening?
@@sayitinswedish yes!!!!!, and like they are kind of surprised by the answer. It's similar to "ah!" but inhalating "Å" , yes, short sound and it comes always together with surprised face.
@@mariamalvavisco definitely not "å" then, but "a", at least if it involves inhaling. Sounds like you're just describing when we say "åh" like "oh really". But we do that EXHALING.
I swear I hear this horrible sound every single time I hear someone speak Swedish and it makes me mad but I also can't help but be fascinated by it, I hate it but I love hating it and pointing explaining it to my Norwegian friend who doesn't know what I'm talking about 😭
Hi, I started to watch your videos recently, I like them cause I wanna learn swedish. Could you talk about how people in Skåne say "yes", I watched Bron and I fell in love with this language (and Sofia Helin's slang). Grettings from Mexico 🤗
I don't think how they say yes is enough for a whole video. They just say it like everyone else but sometimes with a diphtong. Sofia Helin does not speak Skåne dialect by the way.
I made one by accident once, and noticed it is like trying to say a normal i with the tongue placed like you're about to say a T ^^
Exactly!
Oh, I was so relieved that I don't have to learn some strange sound that is apparently very difficult for a lot of people... and then I just produced it after reading this comment.
Thank you I can finally replicate this horrible sound when I rant about how horrible it is! Lol but deep down of course I love it, I only hate it because I could not understand it 😔
It drives me crazy when people use it for every single i sound - definitely have noticed it the most in teenage girls like you said. I call it the Stitch sound
From Lilo & Stitch? Yeah, I can see why!
Omg yes it sounds exactly like Stitch!!
I call it the Gollum sound
@@GWebcob accurate
Omg hahaha i thought the same 😂 it does sound like him
I have struggled with this sound so much and I'm happy to hear it's not necessary :D Thank you!
Not at all! Don't waste your time :)
Thanks for letting us know. As a someone who's just starting to learn Swedish, I literally thought I had to pronounce this sound for every single "I" hahaha
This particular one I'm referring to, used in the big cities, only occurs as a long sound as far as I know.
Yeah, like in _Vi_ and _Ni_ ...
you mean its we dont use the word do but we use dont from sweden
The voice in the Duolingo Swedish course pronounces the "i' like this, so that might be a reason why so many people are asking you about it! I also got a sore throat trying to pronounce it.
Well, it's a continuum. The Swedish "i" is realized in the front of the mouth making it sound more squeezed than an English ee sound. However, people often jump to conclusions that this has to be exaggerated a lot and it makes it "caricaturic".
I use Swedish Duolingo now and it doesn't at all
Working with this one Swedish girl on a project at the moment, she even uses the Viby-i when she speaks English, I didn't think that was possible lol
happens to me all the time
It's so weird ...! Definitely a giveaway where someone is from ;)
The singer of Ramones uses buzzing "i" for some reason. That's the only time I hear it in english. ruclips.net/video/yCW7Aw8ugOI/видео.html
Wow. I had noticed all sorts of different i and y sounds but I had never noticed that they buzzed, but I do think girls around my age (30s) or younger tend to really compress their Is and Ys, and by "compress" I mean it sounds sort of like they've sucked on helium but without the super high pitched thing... I've never really noticed a buzzing.
But yeah I think a lot of people in every endeavour worry about things WAY about their level. Like I've never heard of it by name, and I'm probably more fluent than most people who haven't lived in Sweden... so yeah... more time reading and listening people!
You don't really have to buzz it, like I said in the video, keep down the buzzing but if you really want to try the sound, I think beginning with a voiced S will help.
Omg I love your videos! "Irregardless' bit was what got me hooked haha
Haha, "helium"! YES!
Oh hell, he's addressing it 😄 It is pretty interesting how that happens in languages.
Yes!
Even if that was a Native sound, sounding like a native is not my priority when learning a language. I prefer to focus on grammar and clear pronounciation (clear doesn't mean "like a native")
That's a wise choice.
Thank you! I was just watching a Swedish Netflix show (love and anarchy) and noticed the main character does this a lot and I hadn’t noticed the sound before. I tried searching what the sound is and it brought me here!
Haven't heard about that series, is it any good? What is it about?
Me too!! Hahahahah, we're not alone! It drove me a bit crazy, honestly.
Me tooooo ! I don’t know the Swedish language at all but the sound just drives me crazy and I started searching 😂
I thought it was funny. Maybe a bit girly. About a woman having an affair with her much younger coworker
Yeah the sound is a bit like nails in a chalkboard to English ears I think.
Stockholm has entered the chat...
Yeah boi
I was like "what's the sound already!?".
Finally at 3:40.
I'm sorry you only wanted the sound and not the explanation.
Really annoyed me aswell, thank you for the comment, was about to click off
@@sayitinswedish I would like to have the sound first and the explanation later.
You: I'm going to talk about a sound
Me: Fast forward until I hear the sound.
Thanks for clearing that up! I was watching a Swedish movie with subtitles and I was wondering what that sound was.
omg I hear this so much especially in the word 'tiden' and I've been making an effort to pronounce that letter... I will stop haha
Good, don't waste your time with this!
Or teenage girls saying "gud jag lider", I roll my eyes so hard every time I hear someone say that
@@sannakarvinen531 - Jag ba, hon ba, han ba… fy fan, hatar detta också!
I fist heard this viby i in Love is Blind Sweden. I thought it was such a strange, unpleasant sound-like someone talking when they are gagging. I thought it was a normal part of Swedish.
I've been living here in Sweden for about 9 months now, and man it's a tough language to learn. But the vibey-i is so bizarre! It seems to be used heavily on TV. I find it so strange that it often makes me lose track of concentrating on the sentence being spoken. It's really, really common on TV, particularly with females. The ingressive gasp is strange enough, but the vibey-i... man it's weird. I looked into it and even found scientific papers written up on it. I don't even try it.
No need to try either!
This is what blew my mind. I watch ALOT of swedish shows and its ALWAYS SOOOO prominent im swedish tv and movies. I wonder why that is. Very strange
I'd like to read something scientific about it! Can you point me towards some reading material? :)
@@jetlyfe12What Swedish shows do you watch? Particularly on netflix. I'm looking for listening practice 😅
I noticed this for the first time when I was watching Bonusfamiljen on Netflix. Bianca (the daughter did this), and my Swedish bf at the time didn't do it, neither did his parents or anyone else I met, and I was like, "what is that weird buzzing sound??"
I think it's almost equivilant of vocal fry in valley girl american speak. I have a bizarre accent, having grown up in NZ with speaking swedish to my dad only, my english mother and learning latin at school lol
Svensk Radio Klartext uses this "I" all the time. I thought it was a stockholm thing
When I lived in Stockholm, I swear everyone did this sound!! I definitely accidentally picked it up haha
Yes, it's especially common in Stockholm and Gothenburg.
@@sayitinswedish I always thought Lidingö had a funny accent too. I mean, just the name Lidingö pronounced stands out!
@@christyguy59 - Liiidingööö! ;) ^^
I know it's not. I started hearing women using it in films . I learned to speak Swedish in the 60's and I only heard it in certain dialects. It is similar to the verbal fry in American English.
Yeah, "verbal fry"!!!
What's funny is that I never heard this while in Stockholm, and even asked some Stockholmers about that sound and they weren't sure what I was talking about. Kind of funny. But my friend from Gothenburg does it all the time. I've tried and simply cannot do it.
Maybe most people aren't even aware.
@@sayitinswedish I'm glad it's not a required sound because I can't do it. Lol
Thank you for this video!🙏 I was one of the people who requested you explaining the pronunciation of i, I noticed that mostly girls do this here in Gothenburg.
Yepp, it's super common in Gothenburg and Stockholm.
The sound is super annoying. Seems to be common in Stockholm
It is :)
It is also prevalent in Gothenburg. I remember in my first days here, I was in the process of leasing a car and the dealer would use that sound while he is talking to his buddy about my “bil”. I gathered some ball and asked him why the hell he made that weird non-standard sound. It took him a minute to realize what I am referring to, then he repeated it in the most annoying way to teach me I suppose 🤣🤣. The twist is: he looked Eastern European.
@@manaralghanem7864 haha I'm Eastern European and wouldn't ever use it
Joakim will you try to do some swedish dialects impression videos next time? Would like to know further about dialectal differences in sweden like people in Skåne doesnt have a thrilled-"R" sound and people in Göteborg always end their phrases with "-eller?!" And people in Varmland sounds very much like almost Norwegian and so on😄
I've been wanting to do some for years but I'm just too terrible at it.
Oh I second this! Ever since I lived in Stockholm for a while my Swedish speaking friends at home keep telling me my accent is weird
@@sayitinswedish - Nooo, you are not terrible!!!
Thank you!! I literally ( literally! ) got a sore throat trying to learn this sound ( unsuccessfully ).
I've noticed that the Google translate Swedish voice audio uses this i sound. This is probably why a lot of people are confused
Yeah, it's a bit interesting.
@@sayitinswedish or as it's called in Swedish - nauseating.
Wow Thankyou! We (as foreigners) hear it so often in teaching videos!
Haha, first time on your channel, this was both incredibly informative, and also a relief. :D
I couldn’t make this sound at first but then it became natural and now i just “IIIIIIIJJJJJJJJJJJ”😂
Tjörn and the islands off the Bohuslän coast have also entered the chat. :D
Correct!
The sound is standard to my Swedish. A lot of the materials I used to learn had this sound in them and I learned to use it. My partner cannot make this sound and will be happy to know it’s not necessary! :)
It's a spectrum. Learners usually exaggerate it and some Swedes do. However, it's still on the spectrum of the regular i sound, that's why it sounds standard to you.
Thats a relief. I had no clue how I was going to keep up pronouncing it. I have'nt attempted it.
Thanks for this video!!! I was literally practicing this sound recently cause i thought it is the normal swedish sound🤣🤣 i wont practice it anymore!!
No, don't waste your time and nerves with that sound!
Ah I have never been able to make this sound! As I'm learning Swedish, I've heard this from so many Swedes, it always sounded so nasal to me! I also can't do a rolling "r", but it's easy to manage without.
I have a fairly recent video on how you don't really need to roll the "r". Check it out: ruclips.net/video/B3hXRMlyTWo/видео.html
@@sayitinswedish I love that video about how to trill the "r". It really helps to break it down like you did.
Glad to know I don't have to learn how to make this sound, but I also have to say that this "i" sound is something I really love about the Swedish language!
Anyway... You're just amazing, grazie❤️
I’m not even studying Swedish but have noticed this mildly when watching Swedish shows. But I just finished watching Baracuda Queens and it was SO prominent I had to google “what the F is this weird Swedish throat sound” And how funny because the show features rich teen girls ! Honestly it’s a relief I don’t need to make this sound if I ever want to study Swedish. It’s kinda gross sounding. Love this video - it’s awesome and spot on!
I pretty familiar with Norwegian so I was excited to watch Love is Blind Sverige but there were a couple women making this sound EVERY sentence and it was driving me insane. Thank you for explaining this.
Yepp, yepp
Thank you! I literally cannot make this sound, at least not intentionally. I’m so glad it’s not a usual pronunciation!
So, that's like the Turkish i-without-the-i-dot, they have an extra letter for that, together with the "normal" i with the dot. I noticed that already in the 1990s, but the Swedes I met then (in Southern Sweden) did not know how to explain that to me, they did not use it. But on SVT it was there very often ...
No, it's not like that Turkish I actually.
Thank you for saving me that many hours of my life trying to practise that sound
I spend 3-6 months in a rural farming in the Kopparberg area and everyone has the vibe-y i to some degree, more common with women. I hear it in TV talk shows, regular TV, movies, basically everywhere. Most people I hang out with are over 30, mostly over 60. I have no contact with under 30’s.
You're the first Swedish language RUclipsr that rags on the sound that it's a poser thing to do. I've asked my friends about it and they have no idea what I'm talking about, they're unaware that they're making the sound.
Never said it's a poser thing to do. But foreigners think it's required to sound Swedish which it isn't. You can sound Swedish without it and the more extreme version sounds weird even to Swedes.
I love the sociolinguistic aspects of this; now I might have to learn Swedish just so I can annoy people with a buzzing I. :-)
It almost sounds like the Swedish version of the “Valley Girl” speech or the Turkish “Tiki” kids. Kids affecting a sound that they think makes them sound more hip or upper class.
Born with a silver spiiin in their mouths. :-)
Even when you do your normal e sound.. my Australian e sounds nothing like that, I find it super hard.
Why is swedish so haard 😩😩 sometimes I feel like I could never learn
What is difficult for you? Maybe I can try and explain it :)
Hahahaha swedish is one of the most easiest languages! Try to learn german ! :D I always end up learning swedish instead of german..... toooo hard!
Only Swedish pronunciation is hard, vocabulary isn't a problem.
I'm having a hard time too 😣
I am so relieved to hear this!!! It sound just awful. Spent half of the day researching it. Thank you, man.
I knew the sound before you even did it 😂 my teenage cousin uses this sound all the time, very frustrating
Haha, niinpä
Thank you so much for explaining this, I got so frustrated hearing it in lessons and I had no idea how or why to use it. I'm happy to just ignore it from now on.
The buzzing "I" Stockholmers make is totally different from the buzzing "I" locals on the Swedish west coast uses. Stockholmers pronunciate the "I" in the front of their mouth, while people from Bohuslän articulate it in the back of the mouth. 🙂
Is that so? I can't hear any difference.
I was wondering if that was the sound made by the young blond woman on SVT Rapport. She's really emphatic about the I sound. I was thinking, "how am I going to learn that?"
Thank you. I hear it often but I can't make this sound. Your video is very comforting ...
Haha good!
Jag funderade så pass jätte ofta på den här "I sound". Är det har bara helt enkelt den rätta "I sound"?? Lyckligtvis är det inte sant och övar jag inte på den så här än, men jag tycker lite om "ljudet" ;-). Tack för förklaringen!!
Vårt i är långt framme i munnen men det behöver inte låta så överdrivet som folk tror
I'm so glad I found this!! I thought I was going crazy. One thing: it would be super helpful if you made at least a whole sentence using the sound. Then it really has a chance to come across! 😉
People have heard the sound so many times I just wanted to explain this. A lot of people think that the regular long i is difficult, but it's a continuum and the extreme variant is not required to be able to make.
@@sayitinswedish The information you provided was very helpful! I'm so glad I'm not the only one being put off by this sound (hate to criticize anyone's accent but hey, I've heard many Swedes make fun of Danish, time for balance😅.) But at least one full sentence showing what you're talking about in the language you're talking about is always very clarifying imho.
I am struggling with it and I hate it and I 'm glad to hear, its not necessary.
Google TTS seems to love this sound 😆
I'm so glad it's non-standard cuz I find it grating on the ear. That and the way people from Skåne do something like a Danish stød. The thing that irks me to this degree in English is uptalking or High Rising Terminal (HRT) amongst the linguists. It tends to get associated with dumb valley girls from California but has become more widespread and it makes people sound really stupid imho.
You know what... I started coughing trying to make that sound...
I finally got to know the truth about this sound. Tack så micket! Greetings, from Argentina
Greetings! Have you tried to learn it?
@@sayitinswedish haha yes like crazy without success :)
@@anab.4699 It is weird, I know.
Thank goodness! I've actually not only had problems with this sound, but had extreme difficulty not even knowing what to call it when asking my spouse (a native Smålandian) about it.
You just saved us a ton of time on "you know, THAT sound!" "What sound?!?!?"
Haha, yeah, it's not really a småland thing :D
@@sayitinswedish Exactly! I started hearing it when I started watching TV shows. I was like, "wait....what?"
The secret is, you gotta bug out your eyes when you say it!
Thank you!! I'm glad I can stop trying.
Thanks for letting me know. ;__; I have family in Värmland, who none of them making that i-sound, and I couldn't explain to them what I've been hearing on the TV (those who were making the Viby-i)... My attempts that trying to produce this sound was hilarious to them. LMAO
I sound very weird when I talk a lot and my Russian accent gets out of control😂 and in combo with this ”I” and skånish ”å” (öa) cause I live in Malmö. Omg 🙈that doesn’t sound good at all😂So ur absolutely right 😂
Oh wow, yeah, that could be a mess if you don't take care but at least you're living there so the influence you get from that is excused.
Say It In Swedish I’m trying to work on it. But sometimes it comes naturally because most of my friends and teachers at university speak skånish. 🙈 Söa de e lide svöart för maj😂😂😂
I like the long /i:/ in swedish, but not this "very strong compressed" version you presented in this video 😂😂 it's a very exaggerated version to me. The version I like is just a little bit different than a normal long /i:/ , as you explained: a more open /i:/ but without buzz 😂
I love the Stockholmska i.. As a talare of Swedish som undra språk, Swedish vowel are difficult to differentiate.. Så when I use it for my i's, I feel it makes it cleared what word I'm trying to say..
I know I don't have to do it.. I sound more rikssvenska.. I still use it..
Even as far up north as Västerbotten, young teenage girls use that horrible sound. They try to sound as upper-class as they possibly can. So frustrating to listen to. 😑
I think a thick Swedish accent when someone speaks English is about as ugly as English can get - but this is a complete nightmare 😱
You explained it where I could do it!
Yes guys, whatever you do don't repeat this unless you're planning to marry a Swedish princess in 1950.
1950s?
i remember first figuring out how to pronounce it and using it with practically every word but then i listen to northerners and barely say it these days lmao
Thank youuuuu, I don't feel so stupid now. Lol
Good stuff! :D
A sound I have trouble with is the -rg sound at the end of words like berg or arg. I dont know if it's just me but I cant really figure out what's happening there. Doesnt really sound like Barry or Arry. Something happens with the "r" that I dont know. Maybe I'm thinking about it too much.
Nothing happens with the r sound but the j is a half-vowel so it's not exactly like -rry although you come pretty close with that. It's the same sound as the y in yolk for instance.
I hate that sound too and I think it's fairly common in central Sweden right? I only saw people in the north not using it.
Sounds like the Korean eu ㅡ, the Japanese u and the Mandarin i (in some phonemes), the sound people make when they feel gross about something, it's almost like a schwa but with a narrow lips that shapes like when pronounced an I.
It's a lot more in the front than a schwa and the Japanese u is more like a Swedish u than an i.
Please don't use this if you're trying to make friends from traditional working class areas. Particularly in the north. It's a sure fire way to get "norrlänningar" to think you are from "fjöllträsk"..
For some reason, when I started learning Swedish, I would always pronounce "precis" with that i. My friends got a kick out of that since I was learning västgötska mainly :') no idea where that came from!
OMG TACK!!! Detta uttal var över hela Stockholm men min svenska lärare visste inte vad jag pratade om nar jag frågade!
Också hur stavar man det? "vibu i"?
Viby-I :)
@@sayitinswedish Ah, självklart! Tack igen!
Can you recomend me Swedish movies? It always helps me to improve
A Man called Ove and Bonus family (which is a series). I unfortunately don’t have any additional suggestions, but I can’t wait to hear what others recommend!
Netflix series: quicksand and the caliphate, they are both very well made in my opinion
I saw Fallet, I liked it, is funny.
Hey guys, as you asked for some Swedish movies and tv series to watch, I suggest you to watch one of my favorite ones, "Låt den rätte komma in" (Let the right one in), it's a beautiful movie!
Some of my Swedish relatives do this, I thought it was just dialect but now I want to know if they're just trying to sound posh. I can't do it for the life of me, no problem with sk/sj ironically.
No, I don't think they're trying anything. It's a continuum and the less extreme version is very much a part of every day life. Foreigners tend to overdo it or complain about not being able to do it and it's not really required.
I feel like im on a gameshow where they take so much time to open the envelope and say the name of the winner! What is the sound??
Now i see why swedes dont like small talk.
How can this (apparently) be such a big topic among swedish learners? I can't even think of a single person who sounds like this
I've thought about that too. My guess is that they assume that Swedish has a standard pronunciation, like other languages, and when you hear this in movies and on TV, you assume that this is the way to go. But yeah.
@@sayitinswedish Idk i just find it weird how they've picked up on it like it's a common occurrence when i can't even consciously come up with someone who does even if make an effort to
@@MarcusH... Me neither. I don't know of a single person who uses that pronunciation.
I love that sound so I'm going to do it anyway
No one is stopping you (=
Hahaha I think in many languages there is that “wealthy sound” that some people use and sounds annoying... so I totally get you haha also in Italian sounds strange when not native speakers (I am not a native speaker) try to use the dialects...at least sounds weird to me
Yeah, using dialects seriously, when starting out, can sound out of place. However, it's different if the person actually lives in the area and gets influenced by its native speakers.
Russian has no "wealthy sound". :)
hearing that sound gives me an image of someone twisting their tongue sideways in their mouths to do it. No idea why, but that's the image I have. also, it kinda sounds like the noise people make for yuck or disgusting ... "eeew!"
I’m Rather glad I don't need to learn that thing though because for someone at the most basic beginner level you can get, those vowels are kind of intimidating.
As a Swede I didn't even know this sound existed
As a foreigner I feel like most Swedish sounds are voiceless
Except the vowels, d, b, g and j :)
THANK YOU! This is exactly what I needed to know! I don't care for that sound at all.
So I don't need to do it but now that I've learnt how to after hearing you on the video I think I will lol
Be sure that your overall pronunciation is good enough first, or that I sound will be something that distracts the listener.
🇸🇪🤣""" ÅH!!!! SOUND""" 😲...Lol 😆 . I am mexican and I live in the south of Sweden where I study in SFI. My classmates and me have noticed that swedish here make a sound while they talk that is like showing they are surprised. My husband is Swedish and he only makes this sound while he speak his language, never during a conversation in English.
When I ask to Swedish people about this, nobody knows what I meant even if me or some of my classmates (mostly from Germany, Syria, Poland) show and imitate that sound in front of them. For example , My husband is going to the apotek and asks for a medication and the woman there explains that he needs prescription because of many reasons so while she is speaking to inform him ,he makes like a short " Ååhh!!! " ( like inhaling) at the time that he open his mouth and eyes and raises the eyebrows ( surprised face) . Then he answer to the woman and tells her that he has called the doctor but the receptionist said that he is not available until Monday-so now is the pharmacy woman who makes the sound while he speaks, she makes like :" ÅH!!!😲 ,too.
My husband got it now because he recorded a conversation and I could show him how and when people was making that sound.
Note: It's not the sound they make instead of saying "Ha", which is also like inhaling, I mean a very different one.
Do you meaning the inhaling A sound that is used to acknowledge that we have understood what the other party has said and to indicate that we are still listening?
@@sayitinswedish yes!!!!!, and like they are kind of surprised by the answer. It's similar to "ah!" but inhalating "Å" , yes, short sound and it comes always together with surprised face.
@@mariamalvavisco definitely not "å" then, but "a", at least if it involves inhaling. Sounds like you're just describing when we say "åh" like "oh really". But we do that EXHALING.
@@sayitinswedish thank you!
I can't even make the sound and I am from Västerbotten's County
I'm so relieved that this sound is unnecessary :D I've just started to learn Swedish, so good to know it right away
It definite doesn't matter for comprehension if you replace it with an English "ee" or something like that.
When I arrive I thought exactly that. But one thing: google translate reads Swedish with that accent! Or?
Stockholm accent.
I swear I hear this horrible sound every single time I hear someone speak Swedish and it makes me mad but I also can't help but be fascinated by it, I hate it but I love hating it and pointing explaining it to my Norwegian friend who doesn't know what I'm talking about 😭
It's the worst when Swedes afflicted with the Viby-i also let it leak into and contaminate their English accent. >_
Vikings: Valhalla............
thanks! many thanks! this is what I have been wanting for year of learning good Swedish pronounce.
I'm glad I could help you on your way to fluency! :D
Thank you so much! I don't like that sound at all, I find it soooo annoying!! It's great to know that I don't have to use it! :) You are the best
Haha thanks, I think it's important to tell you guys when you're wasting your time on something!
Me, too! At first, I didn't notice it and then I started noticing it and it drove me crazy because, to me, that "i" is an unpleasant sound. WHEW!!!
But I love it and want to learn it lolol ;)
Funny how my girlfriend is from Malmö and she doesn't produce it often lol
Because it's not really a part of the Malmö accent, it's very unexpected to hear there.
It has a lisp to it. I can see it now, it's like the lisp posh British noblemen had, or Stewie Griffin.
A lisp? You can't lisp a vowel.
Hi, I started to watch your videos recently, I like them cause I wanna learn swedish. Could you talk about how people in Skåne say "yes", I watched Bron and I fell in love with this language (and Sofia Helin's slang). Grettings from Mexico 🤗
I don't think how they say yes is enough for a whole video. They just say it like everyone else but sometimes with a diphtong. Sofia Helin does not speak Skåne dialect by the way.
@@sayitinswedish Well, her character Saga, the way how people say 'yes' in malmö, like an 'oh' sound.
@@antoniososasaldivar2763 - "JaaAA!" ;) ^^
the sound is basicly an L with an i but spoken at the same time unisono
Except it's not an L at all. It's an i with a raised tongue root. Kinda.
So glad I saw this! Tack Joachim