500 million is huge for any normal person, but that's pocket change for Disney or Marvel. people are starting to understand the sheer scale of the gluttony of these companies and its gonna be hard for them to recover I think
No, the morally correct thing to do is not using those PoS software. The reason why Adobe can act like that and take dumps after dumps after dumps into it's users' mouth is that, said users refuses to use something else, no matter what.
@@motashaiye Yes, DaVinci Resolve, for example, or the Affinity software suite, wich requires no damn subsvriptions. A one-time payment for a lifetime license : BEHOLD that dark magic.
@@matheussanthiago9685 this 100%. Nowadays i just pay for the stuff i want to support, not to buy it but to support the devs, say indie games and small software companies that make nice utilities. But if i pay i own it, old school style, idgaf about eulas or any of that crap (im not using it commercially anyways) so once paid i feel morally ok to "pirate" software that i already paid for in the case a service ceases to work or something like its happened to many prominent games and even some software. Also helps if you just dont buy those from the shitty companies that do that.
Its not, the only real revolution that has happened in file sharing is the invention of the torrent protocol, mega(upload) invented nothing, they just used existing functionality
he didn't cost the entertainment industry a single penny. you can't prove people who watch pirated movies would EVER spend a dime on the movie if it wasn't free.
In the early 2000s movies, tv and music were still decent. And 500M was a big hit back then. Mega upload was basically the way to “stream” movies and tv before a paid service like Netflix existed
@@user-hm5zb1qn6g He used hitmen and participated in the drug trade himself. There was never any evidence that suggested Kim participated in the illegal activities on his service. At least not that I've seen. It's fair to assume he did, but he was attacked by the courts and in a court, it's innocent until proven guilty. Ross *was* proven guilty.
So, basically, they want to send him to jail for profiting from human work without their permission or license, but it's totally legal for big tech companies to sell AI products trained on human work without their permission or license. This is fine.
The stable diffusion devs failed to get the case against them dismissed, so it's likely discovery will happen and all sorts of things may be revealed. It may be happening, just very slowly.
That's exactly right. It's only a crime if you don't first make friends in high places, and you bet your ass AI is heavily used in the "defense" and "intelligence" industries.
Glowies when a serial killer is on the loose: I sleep; Glowies when someone pirates an old episode of a series nobody heard of: 007 levels of espionage to find the culprit and make an example of him. I hate big corporation and big publishers.
Most C** level "people" would flay kindergardners alive for a bit of recurring revenue and shareholder appeasement. Business is ruled by sociopaths and psychopaths
It's fascinating how one innovation that served millions worldwide eventually fell into legal troubles. The debate on industry losses or whether piracy is actually theft are complex issues with no easy answers.
It's similar to if I grow cocaine leaves in my back yard for personal medicinal use and corporations don't want the public doing this because it could cut into their profits by having their customers change to using natural medicinal produced produced by themselves, so they make it illegal. Anything you do that may weaken the power of a powerful individual will get punished in the crony capitalist system.
It's not theft. Duplication being akin to theft requires immense mental gymnastics as the root evil of theft is that you are depriving someone else of something they earned or made. Duplication causes no deprivation. The evil is absent. This quandary exists only so that predators above can make more money.
If piracy is not theft, then I can create a website where everybody can download movies and music for free, but legally. But even if it's not theft, maybe it's not ethical that people can get for free what was not free to create.
@@misbegotten3508 Yeah, piracy legally isn't theft. It's just copyright infringement. Which, who cares about that. There's no proof either that the company was deprived of a sale, because more often than not, pirates weren't gonna buy it anyway. The only way you could look at this as immoral is if you were fully intending to buy it but then didn't because you found a way to pirate it. But even then... boohoo? You'll be giving the company free advertisement if the product is good and, in many cases, piracy actually leads to sales that otherwise wouldn't have happened. There's almost no way to look at piracy as immoral.
@@brinckau It's also not ethical or moral to lock up broke people to prop up a business model that would otherwise never be profitable, and who stuff the courts with bullying litigation. (companies succeed despite rampant piracy anyway). Copying someone's homework when they SHOW IT TO YOU should not be a crime. Information ownership is a lapse in sanity. It is not violent or coercive behavior and typically enriches the lives of the most disaffected in the country and globally. They are the ones that made the assumption their business model should be naturally profitable under moral conditions and when it wasn't threw a fit to the government to actually be violent and coercive on their behalf by running around like headless chickens trying to catch the common people. Countries without copyright are a blessing and ultimately correct.
As a Kiwi, I gotta say it was WILD watching the arrest and raid of Kim. The fact that our 'SWAT' went in without Identifying Patches is Rookie AF. And one of the things used against them in court.
Is He the pirate king??? Next thing you know he's gonna say he put all his valuables and server passwords in One place, and encourage all pirates to find it, creating a new pirate era
There once was a man named Kim Dot Com Who was King of the Pirates he had fame power and wealth beyond your wildest dreams before they hung him from the gallows.......
they extradite him to court for "stealing intellectual property" yet streaming services are allowed to steal back their copies of films that people bought legitimately as soon as the servers go under
Not only that, but the precedent it would set if they convict him would be highly damaging to the Internet and filing sharing sites we have today like Dropbox, OneDrive, etc. It also gives consumers reasons to not trust ANY cloud service if their files can be stolen from them by the government shutting the service down for everyone just because a few bad users were breaking the law.
No fake news, no propaganda, no news channels spamming RUclips with their unnecessary bs, boomers didn’t have broad access to the internet, social media was not as dominant as now, no Russian and Chinese bots everywhere. Good days
The argument that pirating "costs" the movie industry money is so infuriatingly and blatantly wrong. Most people that pirate something does it because they would never pay for it even if they couldent pirate it. Its like if Tesla would sue everyone that took a ride in a friends car becuase they didn't buy their own and therefore "lost" the price of a car. absolutely insane argument.
This is only partially true. A lot of people pirate because they can, is relatively convenient and is free. And this has been statistically proven in the video game industry, with a lot of people buying major releases that had Denuvo DRM solely because they know that if they hadn't, they wouldn't be able to play it for months, or even years. I don't care which isle you're on, but don't be disingenuous.
I recently pirated an album from an artist I like because the only ways he would let me pay required signing up for spotify, itunes, or equivalent services none of which amount to me paying him 10€ or whatever and getting a folder of mp3s.
@@traveller23e I remember that video that Weird Al did thanking his fans for however million listens on his songs that year Which equated to like, twelve bucks to him
@@sujimayne Well one can also "pirate" cos a lot of movies, music etc are not available in their country. I'm from India and a lot of stuff isn't available here so "pirating" is the only option. One can say a vpn would be the solution but even then a lot of these streaming services allow you to "rent" stuff than own it. Also the quality of streaming services is pathetic and they charge full price and depending on the user agent, they throttle te quality. Louis Rossman has made a video about it. And for software, I was against piracy when I could own the software. Not now with SaaS. They can make any changes and render my software unusable. Sorry in the current SaaS model, piracy isn't wrong. If I am not allowed to own a product and yet pay a monthly fee and be at their mercy, piracy make more sense than that. And many streaming services play ads in spite of us having paid a subscription fee.
South park on piracy, “This is Britney Spears. Britney made $25 million last year, but this year she’s only going to make $22 million. And that means she may have to wait a few months before she can afford that new Gulfstream IV jet.”
Also South Park: signs an exclusive right to stream contract with HBO for $500 million and sends DMCA takedown notices to any channel uploading an episode.
What crimes are he being charged with, exactly? Making money from a file-sharing website, which just happened to have a lot of pirated content? How is that his fault? You could do the same thing with Google Drive (and I'm sure people do), but no one is coming after _them_ for encouraging piracy.
I vaguely recall there were leaked internal documents discussing kickbacks for people uploading content they knew was copyrighted. It's a bit hard to claim innocence when you're actively encouraging people to use your site for piracy. The entire thing is a joke anyway though, none of what he did was against NZ's laws at the time, our government was just very keen to suck up to the US back then.
I vaguely remember seeing a clip or two of him on RUclips sharing conspiracy theories and also going off on US intelligence agencies like the FBI and CIA. He was saying something like he had used his hacking skills to obtain proof of their wrongdoing or something like that, but I don’t remember any of the specifics because it felt like BS. I have no idea if it’s connected to what’s happening now, but it’s the first place my mind went when I read your comment. 😂😂 I was like “oh dang, that guy was for real?” (I still don’t know if he is or not.) At the time I heard him, I wrote him off. Something about him rubbed me the wrong way. He seemed like a BS’er and an attention seeker. Being very overweight, having a Willy Wonka reminiscent German accent and wearing a black beret didn’t help him win any points with me either. Another possibility is that he has been up to some super shady stuff that we don’t even know about and the intel agencies just used the copyright thing because it was the easiest way to extradite him. (Kinda like how they got Al Capone with tax evasion.) Obviously I don’t know wtf is happening, but just thought I’d throw it out there for anyone who wants to do some digging.
it's a common lawyerish thing to abuse the verb 'to be', i think they call it rhetoric they are highly aware that causing someone to die, even directly can be classified so many ways depending on circumstance, but out loud they could go as far as to say 'drunk driving is murder' if they just want the jury or public to feel a certain way no need even to have anyone dead, you don't actually hope for a murder conviction, you just have to bring people to think of the worst imagery you can be as loose as possible with definitions when you accuse: culprit, theft, thug, r**e, murder, crime against humanity (my comment may not survive these terms) do it when you try to demonise anything, not just the actually dangerous and reckless act of drunk driving, do it when a kid downloads San Andreas and there you go
which is a great question too, why do they bother mega so much but other sites exactly like mega, mediafire and others can just continue doing their thing as usual?
If you shared a disc with a friend, you were breaking the law, they just couldn't enforce it. They think they own everything. The land, the resources, the products. They won't let go of the internet. You can't just live life and hope for the best. Innovation dies with control.
Both Mega Upload and its successor Mega were/are generic cloud storage platforms like Drive. The government claims that Dotcom is responsible for the actions of all the platform's users. Similar situation with the Backpage website.
It wasn't so much the piracy, it was the fact MegaUpload ignored takedown requests and uploaders earned money based on downloads. All of their revenue was based around ads shown when accessing downloads and users signing up for a MegaUpload subscription to access faster/more downloads of pirated content.
"Piracy" is clearly not theft since the thing being "stolen" is still in the possession of the owner. And calling it "piracy" is just a tactic to demonize the practice. Pirates are people who rob, rape and murder. Using that word to describe someone who copies digital data is just ridiculous. It's copyright infringement. Not more, not less.
@@EdmondDantèsDEIt's important to point out that we shouldn't normalize ToS garbage that stands against privacy and ownership. Piracy is becoming more supported by the day thanks to companies trying to normalize not owning what you've legally purchased, so their argument is even worse than the "you wouldn't download a car" nonsense
Piracy only arises from failure to actually deliver your product in a fair, reasonable way. I was fine paying for Netflix back when it had everything. I was fine paying for software when that meant that you kept it forever. Piracy is more justified now than ever. But go on, buy your mouse subscription.
I can't afford a mouse, I'm busy having the licence to my digital eyeball implant revoked because they went out of business and started designing subscriptions for heated BMW seats instead
"subscription" model for physical hardware is kind of a different thing. I would advice that to exist for as much as possible, its the best way to prevent self-destructive electronics.
This is false. It has been proven time and time again that people will pirate to not pay, even at the expense of their own enjoyment, just to save money, even if they have good income and are well off. There are pro-piracy arguments to be made, but this is just a false oversimplification coming from a teenager brain (you).
@@benshulz4179 My 1980s appliances(fridge, oven, freezer, washer, dryer, stereo, speakers, headphones, amplifier, microphone) work just as well as they did 40 years ago for my parents, no subscriptions involved. Just solid hardware with a bunch of replaceable or easily repairable parts.
@@panTadzik 😅 it won’t be “over” until you can ask ChatGPT to play a pirated movie and it does. 😆 That might sound bad, but on the bright side, it will ask you if you only want to see the scenes in the pirated movie where Denise Richards appears in a wet t-shirt.
see stanley meyer, there could be technology which powers your car using *water*. Yet the guy was assassinated and the technology is owned by the (US) goverment, so its illegal to make your own (and ofc its never brought up for green technology, go buy a tesla) Technology for your good is technology against their good. "Consoom and dont ask questions"
What's even worse is all the drama years ago where the government was ordering that the data all be deleted before Kim Dotcom and his lawyers could review it to. They destroyed evidence after they cherry-picked what they wanted, before giving the defense a chance to look at it.
@@OzzyTheGiant First it doesn't make it theft, it would make this a contract infringement, second, when someone steals from another person, there is a loss for the victim, which doesn't happen with piracy. Many products actually become popular and succeed because of piracy. Lastly theses terms of service are unilateral and disproportionately in favor of big companies.
@@Panacea_archiveI agree with you until you started talking about piracy benefiting. I don’t want to call you stupid, but that thought is. At some point, especially with pirating, someone loses a lot of money. That being said, when it comes to people in tech, it’s a matter of whether that person/company deserves to lose money. In this situation, yes, they deserve to lose millions. Companies getting comfortable with fucking over consumers.
@@moegreene3630 You may find me stupid but you actually reveal how uninformed you are. Small artists and indie studios can benefit from piracy, there are interviews where the concerned people admit it.
FBI did not raid his home as they have zero jurisdiction , it was NZ police acting on an Interpol request and a search warrant issued by the NZ courts.
And for a nonsense case, there is no clear legal line that Megaupload crossed but half the Internet didn't. Even ISPs cache and profit from sharing copyrighted content. If this action were applied with legal consistency they would extradite hundreds of thousands of people all over the world.
if these greedy bastards would just make a decent platform with all movies and shows ever created and all new combined, I would gladly pay 20-30 euros / month, but they don't so I use stremio + torrentio + debrid for 3/month
Kim is also a big pusher for BCH, a Bitcoin fork that increases block sizes. He's part of a crowd that thinks Bitcoin has been hijacked (rightfully so). It's weird that this extradition is also so close to the arrest of Roger Ver...
He had a file sharing website. Like drop box, google drive, and one drive. Which are used for illegal sharing too. He was picked to be used as an example. Nothing more.
Copying is not stealing. Ownership is related to property, and property is material and cannot be cloned without the cost of the property itself (or more), ideas are imaterial and can be cloned without cost, hence ideas are not properties, so not owanable. Aritmethic is not ownable, a calculator made of microchips is. English is not ownable, a english dictionary made of paper is. Intectual property is a positivist game where he who is the king's friend takes all the rights. Positivism is a false idol.
The purpose of property is to protect the intereasts of coporations who want to make money from the intelectual work they controll, its not about "the metaphysics of property" its about what makes corporations money
It is not as simple. For example, an indie developer who worked 10 years of his life on a video game, it certainly was not free for him, and he deserves to put food on this table like everyone else. The most expensive thing is time because you can never get it back. And creating content and ideas cost time. How do you expect content creators to get rewarded for their work? Or your assumption is they should not? Then even this video on RUclips would not exist.
@@Netz0 I feel like if you make a product good enough people will WANT to pay for it. Either way if someone really doesn't want to pay for a game (or doesn't have the money) then they will find a way to pirate, doesn't matter what laws say.
@@Netz0 Just because you do something for a long time that doesn't make you eligible for food on the table. If you spent 10 years making a bad game nobody wants to buy or play then that's on you. Also you seem very young so let me explain something to you. This video could very easily still exist without being rewarded. When youtube first came out there was no monetization for the first couple years and people STILL made countless videos and the funny thing? The content was better because people did it out of passion not for money. Your brain is rotten and corrupted just like the vast majority of kids these days.
How is there no clear answer? Copying isn't theft. I mean it's not even called that in law. Although it is commonly called that by people that dont think so not blaming you for their dumbness.
To be fair, RUclips as a company was sued back in either '06 or '07 for hosting large amounts of copyrighted content. But it's not like Jawed Karim was ever arrested for it or had all his stuff seized. He complied with the corporate demands, Kim did not, so he gets the full force and fury of Disney's friends in the US government.
The US has the world's strongest military and can pretty much do what it wants. Ironically he'd be better off living in an enemy country like Russia or North Korea. Russia would protect him just to poke a stick in the US's eye and North Korea would have their own trial for him as no one punishes their citizens but them.
Megaupload was one of those sites where you only got decent download speeds with a paid premium account. Not too different from MEGA today which limits free accounts to 5GB transfer per day.
@@Fireship which shows that people are still willing to pay for such service. I'm sure if google wanted to they could sell adblock, but then would lose on the ad revenue.
if you don't want people to pirate things, provide a better service. if people prefer risking viruses, using vpns, testing executables in sandboxes/vms, having older versions of software, etc to paying for a product then you're doing it wrong.
I mean, most pirates who know what they are doing don't do all that. They just download software from an uploader that they trust, and then run it through windows defender and virus total. Don't ask me how I know this.
@@abdul4515 oh, i know. but sometimes, when your beloved mother asks you to, you need to get a super niche, super expensive program. and so you basically fortify a pc, make a system wide backup and pray to all your gods that the suspicious treasure you've dug out is not a bomb. don't ask me how i know this either.
If I bought a 4k movie but they wont allow me to download it, only stream it. Then at the same time, they wont allow me to stream it in 4k because it's not on a device that they approved of. Is it really pirating if I've already bought the product but they wont provide me with it? In fact, i would go as far as saying it's borderline fraudulent for them to sell me a content that they wont give to me after I've bought it.
It *is* fraud. Besides if you choose to access the product outside of their broken services, that has no bearing on your original purchase, that's a separate transaction. They can't fault you for getting your product elsewhere.
If piracy is "theft" then they shall not use the "Copyright" laws to combat online piracy, so for my "Online Piracy" is not theft in the same way as "Illegal parking" isn't "Money Faraud".
I'm no lawyer, so I could be very, very wrong, but the way I understand it, piracy isn't treated as theft, but more as a breach of contract, like hiring a couple dudes to fix your shower when it breaks and then just not paying them. That's why they only go after the providers and not the people downloading, right?
Lol this dude will NEVER see the inside of an American prison. He is an absolute gigachad, a menace, a force of nature.... Next to all the hacking, the genius shady business tactics, the rugpulls and everything, he was also for fun, literally THE best Modern Warfare player in the world. you can't win against this guy, he is in another league. But he will probably have to flee NZL which is a shame, that's surely a lovely place to chill out in a mega-mansion at the worlds end...
I don't know why the entertainment industry is so angry. 500 mio. $ is less then Disney loses on a single movie these days.
That's only 5 Borderlands
based
500 million is huge for any normal person, but that's pocket change for Disney or Marvel. people are starting to understand the sheer scale of the gluttony of these companies and its gonna be hard for them to recover I think
i think they just hate kim because he is too cool, why do they let mediafire keep working as usual?
@@dave7244that's funny because he will most likely become a martyr instead
"It's always morally correct to pirate Adobe products."
-You have said the actual truth.
Truth spoken, much wisdom in those words.
There is a P in Adobe.
No, the morally correct thing to do is not using those PoS software. The reason why Adobe can act like that and take dumps after dumps after dumps into it's users' mouth is that, said users refuses to use something else, no matter what.
@@lamikal2515
Is there something else to begin with?
@@motashaiye Yes, DaVinci Resolve, for example, or the Affinity software suite, wich requires no damn subsvriptions. A one-time payment for a lifetime license : BEHOLD that dark magic.
When big industries like Ubisoft says,
"Buying isn't owning" then you should remember "piracy isn't theft "!
if buying isn´t owning, than piracy is just trialing
If my money can't buy ownership, you ain't gonna see a penny of it
@@kaanozk golden words
@@matheussanthiago9685 this 100%. Nowadays i just pay for the stuff i want to support, not to buy it but to support the devs, say indie games and small software companies that make nice utilities. But if i pay i own it, old school style, idgaf about eulas or any of that crap (im not using it commercially anyways) so once paid i feel morally ok to "pirate" software that i already paid for in the case a service ceases to work or something like its happened to many prominent games and even some software. Also helps if you just dont buy those from the shitty companies that do that.
I give it all back when I die, so whats the problem? lol
Legalities aside, it's undeniable that his platform revolutionized the way we share large files.
wasn't Rapidshare first one?
Its not, the only real revolution that has happened in file sharing is the invention of the torrent protocol, mega(upload) invented nothing, they just used existing functionality
@@suicidalbananananaThey didn't "invent" anything, but they encouraged competition there which let to the creation of so many great services.
@@FeronomRapidshare... now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time
he didn't cost the entertainment industry a single penny. you can't prove people who watch pirated movies would EVER spend a dime on the movie if it wasn't free.
The law is not mathematics.
@@a46475 But, like mathematics, it should follow sound logic and reasoning to arrive at provable conclusions.
You can't prove the bank wouldn't lose the money on bad loans if it hadn't been stolen by the bank robbers.
just like it cant be proven that birth controls cost the world another 2 billion people
I remember once convincing my family to watch a movie at home instead of going to the theater because I had already downloaded the .1080p
Forgot to mention that the guy was the top Modern Warfare 3 player at one point and he even made a music video!
You gotta admit, he's an impressive dude
bet he hacked
@@manafronthe participated in LAN tournaments, you'd think if he cheated we'd hear about it by now...
imagine being a bilionnaire and spend all your tine playing COD
@@MiniKodjo sounds great
Given the current state of the film industry, I’d say that by costing them $500M he spared us at least two audiovisual crimes against humanity.
Lmao
you should feel bad that he robbed us of maybe 1.5 disney movies with a quirky female teen main character
we are robbed of true goyslop
Am I the only one who thinks that number is way too low for the amount of users on the site and the amount of movies watched on it? lol
*giggles in claptrap's jack-black voice*
In the early 2000s movies, tv and music were still decent. And 500M was a big hit back then.
Mega upload was basically the way to “stream” movies and tv before a paid service like Netflix existed
Can I shut down Amazon by uploading "piracy" into their S3?
No, only organizations not in bed with the State are criminals
Google drive too?! Let's go boyz
maybe 😈
lots of copyrighted stuff being hosted on github too, including the activation tools to bypass microsoft windows and office licensing
I believe they would remove the content and suspend accounts
They also confiscated his mother's cars in Germany, even though they weren't his, and he didn't live in Germany. He's a political target.
All this because other people chose to use his service to host movies. Dude didn't even fucking do anything, this manhunt is disgusting.
@@plebisMaximus Now do Silk Road/Ross Ulbricht.
@@user-hm5zb1qn6g He used hitmen and participated in the drug trade himself. There was never any evidence that suggested Kim participated in the illegal activities on his service. At least not that I've seen. It's fair to assume he did, but he was attacked by the courts and in a court, it's innocent until proven guilty. Ross *was* proven guilty.
If buying is not owning then piracy is not stealing.
Big yaaawn
This comment is so old.
3:20 He cost the entertainment industry $500M? That's like... 3 blockbuster movies. That's it?
Idk if you remember but mega upload never worked for the average person. Like THAT is what I remember about it
@@cognitive-carpenter In what way? I only remember the downloads just taking forever
@@SrKinko only if you had no account
Disney thinks it's a flop if one movie doesn't gross a billion and does it fast.
More like the US got rid of a viable foreign Dropbox competitor.
So, basically, they want to send him to jail for profiting from human work without their permission or license, but it's totally legal for big tech companies to sell AI products trained on human work without their permission or license. This is fine.
They key is bribery... i mean lobbying.
This is capitalism baby
The stable diffusion devs failed to get the case against them dismissed, so it's likely discovery will happen and all sorts of things may be revealed. It may be happening, just very slowly.
He's not friends with the politicians that's the big no-no!
That's exactly right. It's only a crime if you don't first make friends in high places, and you bet your ass AI is heavily used in the "defense" and "intelligence" industries.
Glowies when a serial killer is on the loose: I sleep;
Glowies when someone pirates an old episode of a series nobody heard of: 007 levels of espionage to find the culprit and make an example of him.
I hate big corporation and big publishers.
Money is more important to them than human lives
Most C** level "people" would flay kindergardners alive for a bit of recurring revenue and shareholder appeasement. Business is ruled by sociopaths and psychopaths
It's by design
@@joaoqueiroz361 lobbies' interests are more important to them than money and lives.
They still can't find who brought cocaine to the white house
This case pose compelling questions about the boundaries of internet freedom and copyright infection.
It's fascinating how one innovation that served millions worldwide eventually fell into legal troubles. The debate on industry losses or whether piracy is actually theft are complex issues with no easy answers.
It's similar to if I grow cocaine leaves in my back yard for personal medicinal use and corporations don't want the public doing this because it could cut into their profits by having their customers change to using natural medicinal produced produced by themselves, so they make it illegal.
Anything you do that may weaken the power of a powerful individual will get punished in the crony capitalist system.
It's not theft. Duplication being akin to theft requires immense mental gymnastics as the root evil of theft is that you are depriving someone else of something they earned or made. Duplication causes no deprivation. The evil is absent. This quandary exists only so that predators above can make more money.
If piracy is not theft, then I can create a website where everybody can download movies and music for free, but legally.
But even if it's not theft, maybe it's not ethical that people can get for free what was not free to create.
@@misbegotten3508 Yeah, piracy legally isn't theft. It's just copyright infringement. Which, who cares about that. There's no proof either that the company was deprived of a sale, because more often than not, pirates weren't gonna buy it anyway. The only way you could look at this as immoral is if you were fully intending to buy it but then didn't because you found a way to pirate it. But even then... boohoo? You'll be giving the company free advertisement if the product is good and, in many cases, piracy actually leads to sales that otherwise wouldn't have happened. There's almost no way to look at piracy as immoral.
@@brinckau It's also not ethical or moral to lock up broke people to prop up a business model that would otherwise never be profitable, and who stuff the courts with bullying litigation. (companies succeed despite rampant piracy anyway). Copying someone's homework when they SHOW IT TO YOU should not be a crime. Information ownership is a lapse in sanity.
It is not violent or coercive behavior and typically enriches the lives of the most disaffected in the country and globally. They are the ones that made the assumption their business model should be naturally profitable under moral conditions and when it wasn't threw a fit to the government to actually be violent and coercive on their behalf by running around like headless chickens trying to catch the common people.
Countries without copyright are a blessing and ultimately correct.
As a Kiwi, I gotta say it was WILD watching the arrest and raid of Kim.
The fact that our 'SWAT' went in without Identifying Patches is Rookie AF. And one of the things used against them in court.
"kiwi", how lovely
@@agonygoes More Kiwi than than fruit, those are Chinese! And are actualy called Gooseberries.
@@agonygoes They paint them on the side of their military vehicles and aircraft. Google it.
fruit one or the bird one ???
Good fruit, shit state
Is He the pirate king??? Next thing you know he's gonna say he put all his valuables and server passwords in One place, and encourage all pirates to find it, creating a new pirate era
There once was a man named Kim Dot Com Who was King of the Pirates he had fame power and wealth beyond your wildest dreams before they hung him from the gallows.......
@@NJEH8TE The feds hide his real name, it's actually Kim D. Otcom.
Is this a one piece reference?
@@NJEH8TE u want my password u can have it i left it all there
@@NJEH8TE why does that sound familiar?
"Hey bro lets start a business"
Me and bro a week later:
💀
Happy nation living in a happy nation
in prison.
"What a week, huh?"
"Captain, it's Tuesday"
@@tower9602 the fact i also thought that
they extradite him to court for "stealing intellectual property" yet streaming services are allowed to steal back their copies of films that people bought legitimately as soon as the servers go under
Not only that, but the precedent it would set if they convict him would be highly damaging to the Internet and filing sharing sites we have today like Dropbox, OneDrive, etc. It also gives consumers reasons to not trust ANY cloud service if their files can be stolen from them by the government shutting the service down for everyone just because a few bad users were breaking the law.
Kids these days will never know the magic of the wild internet back then. And the glamor of these celebrities.
No fake news, no propaganda, no news channels spamming RUclips with their unnecessary bs, boomers didn’t have broad access to the internet, social media was not as dominant as now, no Russian and Chinese bots everywhere. Good days
The argument that pirating "costs" the movie industry money is so infuriatingly and blatantly wrong. Most people that pirate something does it because they would never pay for it even if they couldent pirate it. Its like if Tesla would sue everyone that took a ride in a friends car becuase they didn't buy their own and therefore "lost" the price of a car. absolutely insane argument.
This is only partially true. A lot of people pirate because they can, is relatively convenient and is free.
And this has been statistically proven in the video game industry, with a lot of people buying major releases that had Denuvo DRM solely because they know that if they hadn't, they wouldn't be able to play it for months, or even years.
I don't care which isle you're on, but don't be disingenuous.
I recently pirated an album from an artist I like because the only ways he would let me pay required signing up for spotify, itunes, or equivalent services none of which amount to me paying him 10€ or whatever and getting a folder of mp3s.
agreed
@@traveller23e I remember that video that Weird Al did thanking his fans for however million listens on his songs that year
Which equated to like, twelve bucks to him
@@sujimayne Well one can also "pirate" cos a lot of movies, music etc are not available in their country. I'm from India and a lot of stuff isn't available here so "pirating" is the only option. One can say a vpn would be the solution but even then a lot of these streaming services allow you to "rent" stuff than own it. Also the quality of streaming services is pathetic and they charge full price and depending on the user agent, they throttle te quality. Louis Rossman has made a video about it.
And for software, I was against piracy when I could own the software. Not now with SaaS. They can make any changes and render my software unusable. Sorry in the current SaaS model, piracy isn't wrong. If I am not allowed to own a product and yet pay a monthly fee and be at their mercy, piracy make more sense than that.
And many streaming services play ads in spite of us having paid a subscription fee.
South park on piracy,
“This is Britney Spears. Britney made $25 million last year, but this year she’s only going to make $22 million. And that means she may have to wait a few months before she can afford that new Gulfstream IV jet.”
wanna know what is even funnier? piracy actually raises profit, as it serves as a silent advertisment.
@@kaanozkyeah, like when the game was released to warez several hours before the official release. And when everything points back to developer 😂
Also South Park: signs an exclusive right to stream contract with HBO for $500 million and sends DMCA takedown notices to any channel uploading an episode.
@@jbird4478 what did you expect? They work for free? The message was about celebs crying about nonsense not about business deals
@@milliondollarart yes. People who couldn't effort it in the first place will distribute the gaming experience
What crimes are he being charged with, exactly? Making money from a file-sharing website, which just happened to have a lot of pirated content? How is that his fault? You could do the same thing with Google Drive (and I'm sure people do), but no one is coming after _them_ for encouraging piracy.
google drive is how I downloaded most of my pirated games. That is such a good point. Guess we have to start a lawsuit.
I vaguely recall there were leaked internal documents discussing kickbacks for people uploading content they knew was copyrighted. It's a bit hard to claim innocence when you're actively encouraging people to use your site for piracy.
The entire thing is a joke anyway though, none of what he did was against NZ's laws at the time, our government was just very keen to suck up to the US back then.
I vaguely remember seeing a clip or two of him on RUclips sharing conspiracy theories and also going off on US intelligence agencies like the FBI and CIA. He was saying something like he had used his hacking skills to obtain proof of their wrongdoing or something like that, but I don’t remember any of the specifics because it felt like BS. I have no idea if it’s connected to what’s happening now, but it’s the first place my mind went when I read your comment. 😂😂 I was like “oh dang, that guy was for real?” (I still don’t know if he is or not.)
At the time I heard him, I wrote him off. Something about him rubbed me the wrong way. He seemed like a BS’er and an attention seeker. Being very overweight, having a Willy Wonka reminiscent German accent and wearing a black beret didn’t help him win any points with me either.
Another possibility is that he has been up to some super shady stuff that we don’t even know about and the intel agencies just used the copyright thing because it was the easiest way to extradite him. (Kinda like how they got Al Capone with tax evasion.)
Obviously I don’t know wtf is happening, but just thought I’d throw it out there for anyone who wants to do some digging.
> What crimes are he being charged with, exactly?
eating a succulent meal
Google drive complains if you try uploading pirated content...
Mega Upload, Rapidshare, 4Shared... what a time to be online.
Crime-A is Crime-B is a non starter. Maybe online piracy should be illegal, but it is not theft. Theft is a different crime.
it's a common lawyerish thing to abuse the verb 'to be', i think they call it rhetoric
they are highly aware that causing someone to die, even directly can be classified so many ways depending on circumstance, but out loud they could go as far as to say 'drunk driving is murder' if they just want the jury or public to feel a certain way
no need even to have anyone dead, you don't actually hope for a murder conviction, you just have to bring people to think of the worst imagery you can
be as loose as possible with definitions when you accuse: culprit, theft, thug, r**e, murder, crime against humanity (my comment may not survive these terms)
do it when you try to demonise anything, not just the actually dangerous and reckless act of drunk driving, do it when a kid downloads San Andreas and there you go
That guy litteraly made my childhood way better with his website lol Respect to him ! :D
Agreed, as someone who grew up in a very conservative Muslim country. Mega was my gateway/escape to the outside world.
Very nostalig indeed!
i was more of a mediafire guy but megaupload was cool too
which is a great question too, why do they bother mega so much but other sites exactly like mega, mediafire and others can just continue doing their thing as usual?
At the time, I worked as outsourced IT for businesses. It was not a good time. People forget how bad malware was.
If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing. Change my mind.
I ain't gonna. Intellectual property isn't a legitimate concept. It's just an unfair government sanctioned monopoly.
@I.I.I....IoI....I.I.Iyou cared enough it seems to reply
You are buying a service, not a product
God this is the 4th time of me seeing this
@@billowen3285 So I own RUclips movies now? or Steam? nah - seems like I didn't buy a service either
"some things are always morally correct like pirating Adobe products"
Pure Golden !! that cracked me up so hard LMAO
Satires is always a reflection of the soul.
@@roguegryphonica3147 thats not satire
i think Louis Rossman said it first.... Hard to argue otherwise
I'd add games with Denuvo and those needing an Origin or Uplay account to the list
If you shared a disc with a friend, you were breaking the law, they just couldn't enforce it.
They think they own everything. The land, the resources, the products. They won't let go of the internet. You can't just live life and hope for the best. Innovation dies with control.
The internet had peaked around those times. It's been downhill ever since.
Free rides don't last forever.
@@obsidianjane4413
But your enslavement will.
@@obsidianjane4413 But wait... I can still watch anything I want for free to this day with ease. Maybe the free rides will last.
yes, unfortunately...
VC ran out and executives got wise. Shame, at least we lived through it
NGL a little disappointed the megaupload song was not featured in this. DIS AP POINTED!
Was gonna say
MEEEEE GA
Might've got a copyright strike, haha
"he costed the entertainment industry 500M $" ; the whole entertainment industry on that clip saying they just love mega:
send files all around the globeee
Until now, I thought MEGA was just a generic cloud storage platform like Drive.
I've known about Kim for years and had no idea mega came from mega upload lmao.
It is for now anyways... i've used it exclusively for a few years because it's affordable
Both Mega Upload and its successor Mega were/are generic cloud storage platforms like Drive.
The government claims that Dotcom is responsible for the actions of all the platform's users. Similar situation with the Backpage website.
@@robertjenkins6132it’s also honestly absurd that he’s getting trialed in the US when he has never even stepped foot in that country
It's illegal to cost rich people money. Even in a legal way.
I don't think a Cloud Provider should by liable for Piracy this would destroy the entire Concept of an Privacy focused cloud
Yeah if Kim loses this, then people should file a lawsuit against companies like google.
The argument is: It was build for it.
@@kosmosXcannonExcept Google runs algorithms to detect copyright material in Drive and also blocks account which has too much downloads
its exactly why the multi billion $ entertainment industry wants privacy gone, so they can demand alll the money for themselfs!
It wasn't so much the piracy, it was the fact MegaUpload ignored takedown requests and uploaders earned money based on downloads. All of their revenue was based around ads shown when accessing downloads and users signing up for a MegaUpload subscription to access faster/more downloads of pirated content.
If paying isn't owning. Pirating isn't stealing.
I remember the golden era of megaupload. I thought my router was going to melt.
"Piracy" is clearly not theft since the thing being "stolen" is still in the possession of the owner.
And calling it "piracy" is just a tactic to demonize the practice. Pirates are people who rob, rape and murder. Using that word to describe someone who copies digital data is just ridiculous.
It's copyright infringement. Not more, not less.
False, you agreed to the terms the moment you purchased the digital product, just like signing up for a mobile app that has terms of service.
@@OzzyTheGiant your reply has literally nothing to do with my post. ToS don't use the word "piracy" or "theft" and I didn't say "piracy" is legal.
Arr matey but it does make it easy to have some fun with it 😀
@@EdmondDantèsDEIt's important to point out that we shouldn't normalize ToS garbage that stands against privacy and ownership.
Piracy is becoming more supported by the day thanks to companies trying to normalize not owning what you've legally purchased, so their argument is even worse than the "you wouldn't download a car" nonsense
@@OzzyTheGiant 1) ToS is not the law 2) you don't sign in anything when you pirate
Piracy only arises from failure to actually deliver your product in a fair, reasonable way. I was fine paying for Netflix back when it had everything. I was fine paying for software when that meant that you kept it forever.
Piracy is more justified now than ever. But go on, buy your mouse subscription.
I hate the licensing model so much.
I can't afford a mouse, I'm busy having the licence to my digital eyeball implant revoked because they went out of business and started designing subscriptions for heated BMW seats instead
"subscription" model for physical hardware is kind of a different thing. I would advice that to exist for as much as possible, its the best way to prevent self-destructive electronics.
This is false. It has been proven time and time again that people will pirate to not pay, even at the expense of their own enjoyment, just to save money, even if they have good income and are well off.
There are pro-piracy arguments to be made, but this is just a false oversimplification coming from a teenager brain (you).
@@benshulz4179 My 1980s appliances(fridge, oven, freezer, washer, dryer, stereo, speakers, headphones, amplifier, microphone) work just as well as they did 40 years ago for my parents, no subscriptions involved. Just solid hardware with a bunch of replaceable or easily repairable parts.
Its really concerning, no AI mentioned in this video
cuz AI made this video. its over.
@@panTadzik 😅 it won’t be “over” until you can ask ChatGPT to play a pirated movie and it does. 😆
That might sound bad, but on the bright side, it will ask you if you only want to see the scenes in the pirated movie where Denise Richards appears in a wet t-shirt.
If buying is not owning, pirating is not stealing.
I look forward to more videos and tips from you. They always contain a lot of interesting and useful information. Thanks for your work.
technology that allows everyone to have access to the same file for free... and they make it illegal lmao
see stanley meyer, there could be technology which powers your car using *water*. Yet the guy was assassinated and the technology is owned by the (US) goverment, so its illegal to make your own (and ofc its never brought up for green technology, go buy a tesla)
Technology for your good is technology against their good.
"Consoom and dont ask questions"
What's even worse is all the drama years ago where the government was ordering that the data all be deleted before Kim Dotcom and his lawyers could review it to. They destroyed evidence after they cherry-picked what they wanted, before giving the defense a chance to look at it.
Didnt expect to see Kim Dotcom on this channel at any time.
If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.
False. You agreed to the terms at the moment of purchase. Fake News!
@@OzzyTheGiant First it doesn't make it theft, it would make this a contract infringement, second, when someone steals from another person, there is a loss for the victim, which doesn't happen with piracy. Many products actually become popular and succeed because of piracy.
Lastly theses terms of service are unilateral and disproportionately in favor of big companies.
@@Panacea_archiveI agree with you until you started talking about piracy benefiting. I don’t want to call you stupid, but that thought is. At some point, especially with pirating, someone loses a lot of money. That being said, when it comes to people in tech, it’s a matter of whether that person/company deserves to lose money. In this situation, yes, they deserve to lose millions. Companies getting comfortable with fucking over consumers.
@@moegreene3630 You may find me stupid but you actually reveal how uninformed you are.
Small artists and indie studios can benefit from piracy, there are interviews where the concerned people admit it.
Piracy isn't stealing regardless
The fact that the FBI has raided the home of a German national living in New Zealand is still crazy to me.
FBI did not raid his home as they have zero jurisdiction , it was NZ police acting on an Interpol request and a search warrant issued by the NZ courts.
@@Battleneter That's a good point. I guess it's more accurate to say that his home was raided _on behalf of the FBI._
And for a nonsense case, there is no clear legal line that Megaupload crossed but half the Internet didn't. Even ISPs cache and profit from sharing copyrighted content. If this action were applied with legal consistency they would extradite hundreds of thousands of people all over the world.
@@Battleneter Ok but why is he being sent to the US if he never even set foot there in his life?
kim dotcom was a trailblazer and will forever be remembered for sticking it to the industries that deserved it most
500 million dollars is not that much for Hollywood given how expensive some of their series and movies production cost these days. Ex: acolyte S1
IMO
if these greedy bastards would just make a decent platform with all movies and shows ever created and all new combined, I would gladly pay 20-30 euros / month, but they don't so I use stremio + torrentio + debrid for 3/month
Kim is also a big pusher for BCH, a Bitcoin fork that increases block sizes. He's part of a crowd that thinks Bitcoin has been hijacked (rightfully so). It's weird that this extradition is also so close to the arrest of Roger Ver...
The earliest I’ve seen a fireship video
haha, same! :D
If buying isnt owning then piracy isnt stealing
He had a file sharing website. Like drop box, google drive, and one drive. Which are used for illegal sharing too. He was picked to be used as an example. Nothing more.
Copying is not stealing. Ownership is related to property, and property is material and cannot be cloned without the cost of the property itself (or more), ideas are imaterial and can be cloned without cost, hence ideas are not properties, so not owanable. Aritmethic is not ownable, a calculator made of microchips is. English is not ownable, a english dictionary made of paper is. Intectual property is a positivist game where he who is the king's friend takes all the rights. Positivism is a false idol.
preach brother hell yeah 🤘🤘🤘
The purpose of property is to protect the intereasts of coporations who want to make money from the intelectual work they controll, its not about "the metaphysics of property" its about what makes corporations money
It is not as simple. For example, an indie developer who worked 10 years of his life on a video game, it certainly was not free for him, and he deserves to put food on this table like everyone else. The most expensive thing is time because you can never get it back. And creating content and ideas cost time. How do you expect content creators to get rewarded for their work? Or your assumption is they should not? Then even this video on RUclips would not exist.
@@Netz0 I feel like if you make a product good enough people will WANT to pay for it. Either way if someone really doesn't want to pay for a game (or doesn't have the money) then they will find a way to pirate, doesn't matter what laws say.
@@Netz0 Just because you do something for a long time that doesn't make you eligible for food on the table. If you spent 10 years making a bad game nobody wants to buy or play then that's on you. Also you seem very young so let me explain something to you. This video could very easily still exist without being rewarded. When youtube first came out there was no monetization for the first couple years and people STILL made countless videos and the funny thing? The content was better because people did it out of passion not for money. Your brain is rotten and corrupted just like the vast majority of kids these days.
Hey Fireship, will you do a video on all the Social Security Numbers of everyone in the US being leaked? Its in the news everywhere.
Great video, Fire. Now we need a video on spotify's rise to fame from their former similarities to the piratebay. 😆
Found you 🙃
one of the few channels out here that don't need faster playback speed
lesgooo 🚀
The documentary about him is pretty great story, I love how he found out about the illegal surveillance by his fps drop in his pro-gaming runs.
I remember when cod MW3 (the old one) came out and this guy was on top of the leaderboard in just a few days, it was insane!
1:00 Alternatively, it's on Safar 10, 1446 AH and you're watching the Fireship Code Report Series about The Private King of Kim.
Yes, you're Correct!
i see
What 😂 pretty creative
How is there no clear answer? Copying isn't theft. I mean it's not even called that in law. Although it is commonly called that by people that dont think so not blaming you for their dumbness.
The Adobe comment had me rolling. 🤣🤣🤣
>User does something bad
>Blame's site admin
>User does something bad on (mainstream platform)
>Nothing happens.
To be fair, RUclips as a company was sued back in either '06 or '07 for hosting large amounts of copyrighted content. But it's not like Jawed Karim was ever arrested for it or had all his stuff seized. He complied with the corporate demands, Kim did not, so he gets the full force and fury of Disney's friends in the US government.
How come a german guy who lives in New Zealand getting an extradition to the US?
US is widely known for literal kidnapping of people who never had to comply with US laws
The US has the world's strongest military and can pretty much do what it wants. Ironically he'd be better off living in an enemy country like Russia or North Korea. Russia would protect him just to poke a stick in the US's eye and North Korea would have their own trial for him as no one punishes their citizens but them.
You can buy anything you want in the US.......simply by donating to a Congress person's campaign fund.
Because the US has the biggest guns so sit down and shut up
I've always wondered though how do even such platforms make money? i bet it takes a lot to maintain such a service, so is it just ads revenue?
Ads and paid subscriptions for megaupload
Megaupload was one of those sites where you only got decent download speeds with a paid premium account. Not too different from MEGA today which limits free accounts to 5GB transfer per day.
@@Fireship which shows that people are still willing to pay for such service. I'm sure if google wanted to they could sell adblock, but then would lose on the ad revenue.
The feds want this guy in a MegaPrison
Do you think he’ll get MegaPrison food or just regular prison food there?
@@Cfb2987 They would need to bring in a manger.🐷
You mean Impel down
Always remember
If buying isnt owning then piracy is not stealing.
great wisdom
Always remember
Copy paste comments if you don't have own input at all.
He was tipped off by his longtime business rival, Kim Dotorg
if you don't want people to pirate things, provide a better service. if people prefer risking viruses, using vpns, testing executables in sandboxes/vms, having older versions of software, etc to paying for a product then you're doing it wrong.
Provide a better service? That sounds like work! Better off using political clout to jail the competition
If you don't want people pirating stuff make it free
I mean, most pirates who know what they are doing don't do all that. They just download software from an uploader that they trust, and then run it through windows defender and virus total. Don't ask me how I know this.
@@abdul4515 oh, i know. but sometimes, when your beloved mother asks you to, you need to get a super niche, super expensive program. and so you basically fortify a pc, make a system wide backup and pray to all your gods that the suspicious treasure you've dug out is not a bomb. don't ask me how i know this either.
@@carmelwolf129 Yeah, I guess that makes sense. 👍
oh hey it's mega
Spat my coffee at the Adobe mention!
if buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing
Kim Dotcom is the goat and I'm offended that you used that reject flag over our official laser kiwi flag.
Oh no! $500 million dollars! What will they do!
Ask the tribe for more money.
Dude is a legend! In India most of us in the 2000's used megaupload and ofcourse we didn't have any problem here. 🤣
fireship always got me! I was following this dude on x without knowing him.
mega salute!
Ask the the Hacker community: Kim never was a Hacker ...
There is not enough judges for all pirates.
If I bought a 4k movie but they wont allow me to download it, only stream it. Then at the same time, they wont allow me to stream it in 4k because it's not on a device that they approved of. Is it really pirating if I've already bought the product but they wont provide me with it? In fact, i would go as far as saying it's borderline fraudulent for them to sell me a content that they wont give to me after I've bought it.
It *is* fraud. Besides if you choose to access the product outside of their broken services, that has no bearing on your original purchase, that's a separate transaction. They can't fault you for getting your product elsewhere.
He also made a song.
he was in gumball 3000 too
He made more than one.
0:26 Bottom left.
THAT is nostalgia, oh my god. Hit me like a flipping fright train.
if purchase isn't ownership then piracy isn't theft.
1:41 Jeff's not a fan of the UK I take it?
Piracy isnt stealing, its just copyright infringement
You forgot to mention his singing career. That's the best part
My guilty pleasure...
😱🚨 Oh no, it looks like Kim Dotcom is in some serious hot water! Can’t wait to see how this unfolds
It's great how NZ is apparently beholden to the US government 🤦
Aww crap, all of my bitcoin was in there...
you forgot to mention that he is still running Mega, it uses a distributed network of servers so its more difficult to take down.
THIS! ... yep. i am a subscriber. mega has the cheapest data storage rates
@MCasterAnd - Finally took him down. NZ licked US of A carpenter's crack. A.K.A. Weegie, I think.
Not at all true.
@@jayarmstrong Then what's the truth Jason Armstrong? Bestow us with your wisdom Jason!
I don't think that he's still in charge of Mega. 🤔 He might had to quit due to the legal case or something
Nah bro just wanted to be the next Gol.D Roger
$ 500 M of damage to the ENTIRE entertainment industry? Distributed over multiple years?
Isn't that, like, peanut crumbs in that business?
Fireship... the only RUclips channel where I don't need to set the playback speed to 1.5x
IP Is intellectual poverty. This man is a hero.
It is for the people who create the content that don't receive any benefit/income from it when its stolen.
Imaginary Property
3:41 "Privacy is the next big thing on the internet"... More like piracy you mean. Not that I'm complaining though 🤷
If piracy is "theft" then they shall not use the "Copyright" laws to combat online piracy, so for my "Online Piracy" is not theft in the same way as "Illegal parking" isn't "Money Faraud".
I'm no lawyer, so I could be very, very wrong, but the way I understand it, piracy isn't treated as theft, but more as a breach of contract, like hiring a couple dudes to fix your shower when it breaks and then just not paying them. That's why they only go after the providers and not the people downloading, right?
If buying is not owning, then to pirate is not stealing
It is so weird, that he a german-finish person living in new zeeland is going to the usa for court
Like
How is this legally posible?
Wait they're doing this kangaroo court for just 500M? That's half a grandma's Napster download quota or a Disney rounding error
Lol this dude will NEVER see the inside of an American prison. He is an absolute gigachad, a menace, a force of nature.... Next to all the hacking, the genius shady business tactics, the rugpulls and everything, he was also for fun, literally THE best Modern Warfare player in the world. you can't win against this guy, he is in another league. But he will probably have to flee NZL which is a shame, that's surely a lovely place to chill out in a mega-mansion at the worlds end...
He's got another appeal so he'll have a few more years in NZ at least
Ah, another smart individual who can see the house of cards we call society is going to collapse anytime. Cheers.
tru legend
500mil? thats it? all this effort to "get him" and thats all the damage he's done?
He pushed forward cloud storage and sharing, that's invaluable
Google drive and OneDrive do this, too. But nobody seems to be going after them?
3:00 I unironically want that