Thanks for the old way tutorial on how to get the most important thing out of the woodworking! The method of choice can be found on many existing pieces of furniture. You are spot on and in a short time you supplied all the info. Brilliantly done!
Wood slides and metal slides definitely have their place. In a kitchen where the drawers get heavy use I’m going with metal slides. A bedside table I’m going with wood. The wood slides really have class.
That's a great solution~! I'm about to start building a miter saw station and the price of slides is mind-blowing. I'll be looking at this method as the alternative. Thanks for sharing it~!!
Very professional woodwork👍.I like it. I m a little lazy to go too complicated, I just use plywood sanded and rub candle on, works for me. Thanks for sharing❤
whats a good, cheap wood, to get started making some simple furniture? I like pine, even the color and to some extent the figuring. is that a good choice?
Depends what you are building. Pine is soft wood and can dent easily. Poplar is easy to work with but the color can vary. It is great to use if you are painting it. Next I would move up to the oak family. Red oak is affordable but can be grainy and hard to sand. White oak is a bit nicer to work with and finish.
Looks great. I just don’t quite get the most important part, at about 3:55 in the video. I think you’re trying to say that the drawer could shift from side to side so you’re putting in an extra strip of wood, which is perhaps aligned with the face frame? But I can’t see enough of exactly what you’re doing. I sure like how you can use clamps and hold the whole thing together and know that it fits before you screw it together. Personally I like the idea of not spending so much money on drawer slides. I think the tongue hanging down from above to keep the drawer from coming out is far as superior to using a nylon strap which someone else suggested. I was struggling to visualize some sort of stop like that and you did a good job there. Thank you for posting this.
Thanks for your comments. As for the extra stops you mentioned. Think of the as guides so the drawer slide in and out straight. Without them, the drawers could rock and become difficult to operate. Hope this helps.
At 4:59 of the video, I see pocket screw holes but what is the linear cut line just below the top edge in this photo? Seems I’ve seen these before but never knew what they are for. I’m sure I’m not the only one who doesn’t know. Thanks in advance!
That is a slot to use Z clips for attaching the top. You can buy these type of clips but I prefer to make my own out of wood. You can see me install them in the Entry Table Build video at 6:14. URL to Video below: ruclips.net/video/UNWk2kqG90Q/видео.html
In my case the plywood and runners were scraps I had from previous projects so the cost was not an issue. The weight is comparable to the weight of the metal slides. I am sure there are lighter ones. You could always do smaller individual panels instead of one large one to cut down the weight.
Great video, I have one question, what are the little blocks for that you screwed on at the end. I got the part about turning them up to get the drawer out, but is that the only reason? Excuse all those stupid comments, it was a well done video.
Thanks for the question. The blocks serve two purposes. They keep the drawer from accidentally falling out and the keep it from being pushed too far in. Basically keeping the drawer face flush with the frame.
Really solid video. Short, sweet, to the point. Quality editing, production quality was good overall. Thanks for the tip, as a total beginner it is always good to store this sort of information away. Definitely agree on the paste wax tip! I do however want to add a question. With all due respect, would it not be safer to cut the dados with the shorter end of the board against the fence of the table saw? It seems like it would have much less of a chance of getting caught between the blade and fence through the board turning on ya. No disrespect intended, just wanted to (potentially) offer a safer way if it is possible. Pardon the long message, thanks for the video, God bless.
Thanks for the feedback! You are absolutely right on cutting the dados. The first couple cuts were closer to the fence but the one side of my board was not square so I took the lazy way out. Great call out!
The cabinet I built is over a year old now and I have not had any problems. On average, wood expands 1/8 inch over 1 foot. Since the boards are narrow the movement is negligible.
I’m presuming the drawer stops are mounted to the cabinet front rails? Watching this on my phone, the view wasn’t clear and Bud didn’t clarify in his narration.
great video. i think you would benefit to an overview to the process. you've got great detail about every step and how to accomplish each step, but launching right into the steps you are left a bit wondering what is going on.
Nice work but my opinion. If you don't use the drawer much, wood runners are a nice traditional way of doing it. If you use the drawer a lot, use metal guides. Wood will not last and opening and closing it will become difficult after time.
I agree with herbert633, this video has good details, you need more overview. for instance, you attach the runners to a board but never say where the board goes. you should also show how you remove the drawers, etc. you know your stuff too well but don't communicate very well
Sorry, but I will be sceptical. 1. Cost. How much extra work did you apply to make these wooden runners compared to just screwing in metal ones? Time is money, remember. 2. Size. If you have wide faces on your cabinet anyway, then you have space there to fit some extra ply inside. Otherwise, 2 x 1cm metall runners would take same space or less. 3. Traditional look. Well, this is probably the only real reason to use wooden slides. But personally, I prefer quiet and smooth metals. Anyway, thanks for sharing and success for your projects ❤
I've been into woodworking for 6 years and I'm confused. I believe there might be some related ideas in the video, but they must be better organized and delivered to us the viewers.
I understand the concept. I agree with the concept. But your explanation of the concept failed to educate me on the application of the concept. You need some additional explanation of why/how/dimension.🤥🤥
My Grandfather told me that people used to rub a bar of soap along bottom edges of wooden drawers as well. I suppose that was the poor mans equivalent to using paste wax?
I had to watch the video five different times before I could figure out things that you were doing better camera shots and better explanation would be a plus I think I figured everything out except for the two pieces you said not to glue down. I don’t understand what that was about, you said not to glue them and the next picture your showing how well the drawer slides and it’s the end of the video. 🤷🏻♂️
I appreciate the feedback! I was referring to the thin strips that I screwed down on the runners. They were the darker wood pieces that ensure the drawer slides in without racking. If you were to glue them down the drawer could become tight if the runners expand due to changing humidity. Feel free to DM/email me if I can of further assistance at BudsWSIN@gmail.com
Drawer runners are the only way to go. You get FULL extension, do not have to worry about the drawer falling out, they are quiet and there is no wear of wood on wood. Drawer runners are so easy to fit, you can do the drawer installing in half the time. Who really cares about the one inch space of the drawer runners? If this is really critical make the cabinet wider!
For those of us who rarely install drawer sides it can be a bit of a pain and take a lot of time if you don't have the drawer slide guides - - - another cost. Buds way is easier for me. I assume if you do a lot of mechanical drawer guides you might see it differently.
The reason I subscribed. No advertisements on your part. No BS to get started. And some great ideas and advice. No chested beating Lol.
Thanks John! Much appreciated.
Thanks for the old way tutorial on how to get the most important thing out of the woodworking! The method of choice can be found on many existing pieces of furniture. You are spot on and in a short time you supplied all the info. Brilliantly done!
Thanks for your feedback!
Wood slides and metal slides definitely have their place. In a kitchen where the drawers get heavy use I’m going with metal slides. A bedside table I’m going with wood. The wood slides really have class.
That's a great solution~! I'm about to start building a miter saw station and the price of slides is mind-blowing. I'll be looking at this method as the alternative. Thanks for sharing it~!!
Love the old school ways. Thank you
👏👏👏 Gracias Bud, excelente. Gracias por compartirlo. 💪💪
Great video. Valuable, direct, no fluff 👍👍
keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
The drawer stoppers are a clever idea.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video. I will be watching them all.
Very professional woodwork👍.I like it. I m a little lazy to go too complicated, I just use plywood sanded and rub candle on, works for me. Thanks for sharing❤
Very good idea. I hate dealing with sliders.
whats a good, cheap wood, to get started making some simple furniture? I like pine, even the color and to some extent the figuring. is that a good choice?
Depends what you are building. Pine is soft wood and can dent easily. Poplar is easy to work with but the color can vary. It is great to use if you are painting it. Next I would move up to the oak family. Red oak is affordable but can be grainy and hard to sand. White oak is a bit nicer to work with and finish.
Great drawer stop idea. Going to have to do that with my workbench drawers. Thanks for the vid.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.
Looks great. I just don’t quite get the most important part, at about 3:55 in the video. I think you’re trying to say that the drawer could shift from side to side so you’re putting in an extra strip of wood, which is perhaps aligned with the face frame? But I can’t see enough of exactly what you’re doing. I sure like how you can use clamps and hold the whole thing together and know that it fits before you screw it together. Personally I like the idea of not spending so much money on drawer slides. I think the tongue hanging down from above to keep the drawer from coming out is far as superior to using a nylon strap which someone else suggested. I was struggling to visualize some sort of stop like that and you did a good job there. Thank you for posting this.
Thanks for your comments. As for the extra stops you mentioned. Think of the as guides so the drawer slide in and out straight. Without them, the drawers could rock and become difficult to operate. Hope this helps.
Good morning 🌅, nice job, I haven’t seen that done for many years, retired English dude living in France,
Thanks 👍
At 4:59 of the video, I see pocket screw holes but what is the linear cut line just below the top edge in this photo? Seems I’ve seen these before but never knew what they are for. I’m sure I’m not the only one who doesn’t know. Thanks in advance!
That is a slot to use Z clips for attaching the top. You can buy these type of clips but I prefer to make my own out of wood. You can see me install them in the Entry Table Build video at 6:14.
URL to Video below:
ruclips.net/video/UNWk2kqG90Q/видео.html
I like this Idea, I have plenty of drawer slides but don’t want to use them on my shop drawers that I want to build. 👍
You just saved me a lot of money on drawer slides!
Awesome!
Thank you. I agree with all the positive comments.
One year later...just came across this video and channel...now Im a believer LOL as Shrek would say...Nothing beat old school wood working techniques
Thanks for watching!
The other reason to not use the metal draw runners is weight. Those things can double the weight of a piece of furniture.
Drawer slides have their place. But for your project you made the right choice.
Totally agree. I think higher use drawers certainly benefit from manufactured slides.
Pulling out the drawer feels so much more pleasant with ball bearing slides. I found excellent slides for $5
They certainly have their own advantages.
Where did you find $5 slides?
@@karimbaker9482 plenty on Amazon. I usually buy pack of 6 or 10
Great advice!
Excellent. Thanks!
Clever solutions. The only concerns I have are the cost and weight of all that extra plywood.
In my case the plywood and runners were scraps I had from previous projects so the cost was not an issue. The weight is comparable to the weight of the metal slides. I am sure there are lighter ones. You could always do smaller individual panels instead of one large one to cut down the weight.
Excellent. Just what I was looking for
Great to hear!
I glue teflon tape to the slides, seems ok so far.
Try some Goldman's Wood Balm for lubing the runners.
Great video, I have one question, what are the little blocks for that you screwed on at the end. I got the part about turning them up to get the drawer out, but is that the only reason? Excuse all those stupid comments, it was a well done video.
Thanks for the question. The blocks serve two purposes. They keep the drawer from accidentally falling out and the keep it from being pushed too far in. Basically keeping the drawer face flush with the frame.
Really solid video. Short, sweet, to the point. Quality editing, production quality was good overall. Thanks for the tip, as a total beginner it is always good to store this sort of information away. Definitely agree on the paste wax tip!
I do however want to add a question. With all due respect, would it not be safer to cut the dados with the shorter end of the board against the fence of the table saw? It seems like it would have much less of a chance of getting caught between the blade and fence through the board turning on ya. No disrespect intended, just wanted to (potentially) offer a safer way if it is possible.
Pardon the long message, thanks for the video, God bless.
Thanks for the feedback! You are absolutely right on cutting the dados. The first couple cuts were closer to the fence but the one side of my board was not square so I took the lazy way out. Great call out!
What happens when the frame and non plywood pieces expand and contract with weather ? With those tight tolerances you are asking for trouble !
The cabinet I built is over a year old now and I have not had any problems. On average, wood expands 1/8 inch over 1 foot. Since the boards are narrow the movement is negligible.
I’m presuming the drawer stops are mounted to the cabinet front rails?
Watching this on my phone, the view wasn’t clear and Bud didn’t clarify in his narration.
You are correct. The stops are fastened to the front rails. Thanks for watching!
Would this work for a 36-in deep drawer
I have not tried it on a drawer that deep but see no reason why it would not work.
I have not tried it on a drawer that deep but see no reason why it would not work.
I liked it, good idea. Thanks
Sure, you don't need the steel baring runners, and you can save money by using timber runners, but there is no comparison, I'm afraid.
you can also wax the runners
I am soo confused.
lol I’m a woodworker and I’m having trouble following this too
ME TOO!
Wanted to make drawers without buying slides, found this video & watched it = and... I still don't really know how to make them
Me three!
Add me to this list :D
Good video. Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Thank you!
2:16 Dad-o's are great. It's a shame nobody talks about Mom-o's.
LOL!
great video. i think you would benefit to an overview to the process. you've got great detail about every step and how to accomplish each step, but launching right into the steps you are left a bit wondering what is going on.
Great suggestion! I appreciate the feedback.
I agree.
A closeup of the slides would give us a destination that the steps lead to.
It doesn't have to be lengthy.
Nice work but my opinion.
If you don't use the drawer much, wood runners are a nice traditional way of doing it.
If you use the drawer a lot, use metal guides. Wood will not last and opening and closing it will become difficult after time.
Likes from India
Super cool
I agree with herbert633, this video has good details, you need more overview. for instance, you attach the runners to a board but never say where the board goes. you should also show how you remove the drawers, etc. you know your stuff too well but don't communicate very well
I appreciate your feedback Yvon!
thx!
You bet!
Obviously people would sacrifice to be more comfort, more easy and less hustle. Using a ready made drawer slider much more smoother😂
That's fine for small/light drawers.
Just bought a house with 3 heavy wooden drawers in upstairs hallway.
Too much friction with wood runners
Sorry, but I will be sceptical.
1. Cost.
How much extra work did you apply to make these wooden runners compared to just screwing in metal ones? Time is money, remember.
2. Size.
If you have wide faces on your cabinet anyway, then you have space there to fit some extra ply inside. Otherwise, 2 x 1cm metall runners would take same space or less.
3. Traditional look.
Well, this is probably the only real reason to use wooden slides. But personally, I prefer quiet and smooth metals.
Anyway, thanks for sharing and success for your projects ❤
I appreciated your comment and perspective. Cheers!
Big thank
Im very confused
Sorry to hear that. Feel free to DM/email me at BudsWSIN@gmail.com if I can be of further assistance.
.Big thank
Metal ball bearing ones are 10 times better. When have you seen train tracks made out of wood?
I've been into woodworking for 6 years and I'm confused. I believe there might be some related ideas in the video, but they must be better organized and delivered to us the viewers.
Thanks for the feedback!
Unless...you find about forty of these drawer slides in a bucket at a yard sale for $10. Yes, I did!
I understand the concept. I agree with the concept. But your explanation of the concept failed to educate me on the application of the concept. You need some additional explanation of why/how/dimension.🤥🤥
My Grandfather told me that people used to rub a bar of soap along bottom edges of wooden drawers as well. I suppose that was the poor mans equivalent to using paste wax?
LOL - let’s just call it economically conscious. Soap works great too!
LOL - let’s just call it economically conscious. Soap works great too!
❤
Papy bricolo...
I had to watch the video five different times before I could figure out things that you were doing better camera shots and better explanation would be a plus I think I figured everything out except for the two pieces you said not to glue down. I don’t understand what that was about, you said not to glue them and the next picture your showing how well the drawer slides and it’s the end of the video. 🤷🏻♂️
I appreciate the feedback! I was referring to the thin strips that I screwed down on the runners. They were the darker wood pieces that ensure the drawer slides in without racking. If you were to glue them down the drawer could become tight if the runners expand due to changing humidity. Feel free to DM/email me if I can of further assistance at BudsWSIN@gmail.com
Ha! A dado (Day-do) blade has now become a daddo (Dad-O) blade. Sorry, I hate ballsed up English! Carry on….
All good. :-) I will blame my Jersey accent. I also pronounce water as wooder. LOL
Love it but your skill and equipment put both mine to shame.
Actually wood is so expensive . It will chiper to do drawers from steel and aluminium alloys from china.😂
LOL!
Drawer runners are the only way to go. You get FULL extension, do not have to worry about the drawer falling out, they are quiet and there is no wear of wood on wood. Drawer runners are so easy to fit, you can do the drawer installing in half the time.
Who really cares about the one inch space of the drawer runners? If this is really critical make the cabinet wider!
Cost was one reason, and there is more than one method to stop the drawer from falling out.
For those of us who rarely install drawer sides it can be a bit of a pain and take a lot of time if you don't have the drawer slide guides - - - another cost. Buds way is easier for me. I assume if you do a lot of mechanical drawer guides you might see it differently.
Putting in drawer slides is challenging? They are dang expensive.
Wait till wood swells up a bit. Haha. That's why ball bering rails were invented.
They are plywood...
LOL.