Why Marvel Failed with Team America

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 26 мар 2022
  • Get the exclusive NordVPN deal here: nordvpn.com/comictropes. It’s risk free with Nord’s 30 day money-back guarantee!
    Thanks to NordVPN for sponsoring this video.
    Support Comic Tropes on Patreon: / comictropes
    Marvel Comics launched Ghost Rider in 1972 and it became a pretty big hit for them. In the late 70s, they launched a bunch of comics based off of licensed toys like Micronauts, Rom: Spaceknight, and eventually G.I. Joe. So why did they fail with Team America? It was based on a popular toyline by Ideal. It was a bunch of motorcycle heroes. It just did not work. This episode takes a look at all of their absurd comic book appearances and figures it out.
  • РазвлеченияРазвлечения

Комментарии • 472

  • @ComicTropes
    @ComicTropes  2 года назад +54

    Get the exclusive NordVPN deal here: nordvpn.com/comictropes. It’s risk free with Nord’s 30 day money-back guarantee!

    • @eddiejoewalt7746
      @eddiejoewalt7746 2 года назад +1

      how about a episode on
      something related to Image Comics 25 years annual
      or the unfinished work of Neil Gaiman's Miricleman run!

    • @kevinrhea7332
      @kevinrhea7332 2 года назад

      How about a ‘US1’ episode?!

    • @eddiejoewalt7746
      @eddiejoewalt7746 2 года назад

      @@kevinrhea7332 ANOTHER one is the Marvel's New Universe imprint!

    • @wayned.ashford9235
      @wayned.ashford9235 2 года назад

      ..."How to Break your Neck" magazine?!! 😮
      i think i use to have that issue..!! (lol/😅)

    • @wayned.ashford9235
      @wayned.ashford9235 2 года назад

      Hey there Chris,
      how about doing an episode on the old Horror comics from the 1970s & '80s? "Tomb of Dracula/TOD II", "Werewolf by Night", "Dark Shadows",etc.

  • @tonybaggett1984
    @tonybaggett1984 2 года назад +184

    Love that the “Oh Hi” gimmick is back consistently. Gotta be hard to come up with but they’re so cheesy they’re great!

  • @jackdubz4247
    @jackdubz4247 2 года назад +216

    Oh, Hi... You caught me watching another great episode of Comic Tropes.

    • @Hulkzilla0
      @Hulkzilla0 2 года назад +6

      Speaking of Comic Tropes, why don't you hit that subscribe button for more content!

    • @jackdubz4247
      @jackdubz4247 2 года назад +1

      @@Hulkzilla0 I've been a subscriber for quite a while. Are you?

    • @Hulkzilla0
      @Hulkzilla0 2 года назад +1

      @@jackdubz4247 I was just mimicking his line. Following up on your comment. Maybe I didn't do a good job of doing that...

    • @jackdubz4247
      @jackdubz4247 2 года назад

      @@Hulkzilla0 "face palm" Apologies, my friend. :D

    • @MoeMoon
      @MoeMoon 2 года назад +3

      Nevermind that. How'd you get in my house and what are doing to my sister-in-law?

  • @larrykroger3100
    @larrykroger3100 2 года назад +78

    "Pops" Kuramoto is their take on "Pops" Yoshimura, a legend in the high performance motorcycle industry...

  • @milestonowheres
    @milestonowheres 2 года назад +162

    I received the almost complete run of Team America when I acquired a collection of comics from a guy .. the only issue that was missing was the last issue was the last one … I have been wondering whom Marauder was for almost 10 years … I didn’t wonder enough to purchase it off line but I have been wondering . It’s so satisfying to finally find out

    • @LordSathar
      @LordSathar 2 года назад +24

      He was actually Rex Racer, speed's older brother who dissapeared mysteriously.

    • @christianhighii9882
      @christianhighii9882 2 года назад +4

      @@LordSathar Thanks for ruining Speed Racer for me. ;)

    • @andrewtaylor940
      @andrewtaylor940 2 года назад +2

      It's explained much better in the New Mutants issues than in the Team America books.

    • @kenlieck7756
      @kenlieck7756 2 года назад +3

      @@christianhighii9882 It was actually Pops Kuramoto-Plum,
      in the Team America clubhouse library,
      with the steering stem bearing tool...

    • @BenFrayle
      @BenFrayle 2 года назад

      @@andrewtaylor940 Well, bare in mind that Professor X has told pretty much every hero in the Marvel Universe that they are really a mutant and that's where their power comes from at some point.

  • @AAAnonimAAA1st
    @AAAnonimAAA1st 2 года назад +72

    The Thing becoming a stuntman driver is actually pretty great. In real life a gimmick of indestructible man lauching himself with vehicles into crashable objects would sell pretty well... Though in comics it would get boring real fast.

    • @MrKD1970
      @MrKD1970 2 года назад +2

      I actually loved that particular Thing series.

  • @darrellgrant4493
    @darrellgrant4493 2 года назад +17

    No matter who the artist is, it all looks like Vince Colletta in the end.

    • @dxvdvss3252
      @dxvdvss3252 8 месяцев назад

      I'm a year late but this really made me laugh 😂

  • @SplosionMovies
    @SplosionMovies 2 года назад +99

    If they rebooted them as a tongue in cheek self aware series, with every character a little over-the-top and the car/bike stuff taking center stage, it could be pretty funny and at times entertaining.

    • @Mate397
      @Mate397 2 года назад +2

      If only that would be the case, but sadly Disney Marvel would find a way to screw that up.

    • @TheZooropaBaby
      @TheZooropaBaby 2 года назад +7

      I feel like Ed from Cartoonist Kayfabe said the same about Youngblood, Rob Liefled' comic, he said if you just recreate the comic meticulously and titled it "1992" or something that indicates that it's a parody, people would believe it and enjoy it because it's so over the top and kind of parody of itself

    • @A_YouTube_Commenter
      @A_YouTube_Commenter 2 года назад +2

      @@TheZooropaBaby That could work.

    • @totz_the_plaid9625
      @totz_the_plaid9625 2 года назад +6

      You're thinking of "US-1" which has the trucker stuff pretty front-and-center, and also has a dominatrix-looking female villain with a mind-control whip, aliens, and a Nazi blimp. Chris can throw shade at Ulysses Solomon Archer all he wants, but at least THAT book was entertaining!

    • @kenlieck7756
      @kenlieck7756 2 года назад +4

      Gotta make sure to put special focus on...
      "Marauder, the hero who could be... *you!"*

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 2 года назад +21

    It might have helped if Jim Shooter'd got an artist who understood bikes and enjoyed drawing them.

  • @allenrubinstein3696
    @allenrubinstein3696 2 года назад +25

    You skipped my favorite part - the editorial blurb by Jim Shooter in the letters column of issue 12, where he revealed that this would be the last issue and basically admitted that the book sucked. It was something like, "The creative elements just never came together," or some other euphamism for, "We're cancelling this book because of poor sales owing to the book sucking."
    Yes, I bought all 12 right off the racks. I don't know why the Captain America issue hooked me like that. I wasn't a fan of Ghost Rider or motorcycles, but for some reason, Team America latched on to some feeble synapse in my teenage brain. I read each of those issues more than once each, not loving them per se, but somehow just fascinated.

  • @jdc4483
    @jdc4483 2 года назад +36

    I have to say, if I were a 10-year-old reading issue #3 as you described - with the black marauder chasing the villains on his motorcycle, avoiding various “Raiders of the lost Ark-like” traps, and then mentally having his motorcycle attack the bad guys - I would absolutely loved it!! 👍🤣🤪

    • @marcmcfinn7470
      @marcmcfinn7470 2 года назад +6

      I can testify as someone who read it as a 10 year old, that it was pretty awesome.

    • @d.aardent9382
      @d.aardent9382 2 года назад +4

      It sounds like the comic was written by ten year olds from all the wild and at times illogical and unconnected bits of plot story sound like they are just made up as they went like me and my cousins and friends as kids would do when we were playing some kind of action figure story with all sorts of mish mash figures from all my various toylines i collected.

    • @marcmcfinn7470
      @marcmcfinn7470 2 года назад +2

      @@d.aardent9382 That's probably why it appealed to me.
      Man, I was all about trying to figure out how my various unrelated figures ended up in the same universe.
      I even had a Team America back story for my stunt bikers before the comic came out. I remember being 10 and thinking my personal cannon was better. But I still collected it.

    • @MightyAvengingLeo
      @MightyAvengingLeo Год назад +1

      Jumping a Ferris Wheel on a motorcycle is cool at any age.

    • @renegade-zeraus
      @renegade-zeraus Год назад

      Given as the team members were all mutants, Marauder having telekenesis is actually feasible.

  • @MrHantz101
    @MrHantz101 2 года назад +28

    I remember owning the final issue, reading it dozens of times, and having no idea who any of these people were, or the significance of the Black Marauder.
    But I think the main reason for its failure was the lack of a plot. GI Joe had to prevent Cobra from taking over the world, same with the Autobots & Decepticons, and even Rom had the Dire Wraiths, but who was Team America supposed to fight? Team Russia? Their arch enemies were the bland, generic Hydra (interchangeable, faceless cannon fodder), but TA weren't trained operatives like the Joes, they just rode motorcycles really well. Where are you supposed to go with that??

    • @MariaVosa
      @MariaVosa 2 года назад +7

      Indeed - heroes are mostly defined by their chosen enemies. A biker team should have been travelling around the States fighting criminal gangs and helping "normal" people - occasionally taking on a bigger super villain. But they seemed to want to make this into mini G.I Joe, pitting them against Hydra. Or Avengers, with that weird group of never-seen-again super villains. It's clear they lacked a basic premise apart from the name and concept.

  • @EnerKaizer
    @EnerKaizer 2 года назад +9

    so.... Biker-Mice from Mars + Captain Planet then.
    That could actually be a fun team book if written today, and changing up who becomes the Marauder could easily become an amazing gimmick for the series.

  • @ComicPower
    @ComicPower 2 года назад +5

    When you said Team America all i could think of is the song AMERICA F YEAH blasting. Lol.

  • @danguillou713
    @danguillou713 2 года назад +26

    Professor X was often a bit of a jerk to be honest. And although it was sometimes inadvertently, due to lazy writing - you know, the kind of thing where a character acts like bully because the writer don’t know any other way to show ”strength” - just as often Claremont used Xaviers arrogance and inability to pause and listen as a source of dramatic conflict.
    Anyway, this whole thing is nuts. Brought a happy smile to my face. Thanks.

    • @MariaVosa
      @MariaVosa 2 года назад +4

      Kitty Pryde was right - Professor X is a jerk.
      (One of my favourite Jubilee moments is when she verbally destroys Prof X when he is criticising Wolverine for working out his trauma in the Danger Room. She shut him up like no one else has before or since)

  • @johnm.withersiv4352
    @johnm.withersiv4352 2 года назад +69

    I'm a huge (and probably rare) Team America fan. I'm curious what you'll have to say about this group. I love the way Hydra was depicted as part-timers that needed insurance in that era.

    • @johnm.withersiv4352
      @johnm.withersiv4352 2 года назад +3

      They toy tie-in books lasted 12 issues. The team actually rode into Thing comics as the Thunder Riders for a few more issues when Marvel tried to recycle the characters outside of the toy tie-in deal.

    • @fad23
      @fad23 2 года назад +1

      I remember this from when I was a kid. I loved it for at least a few issues.

    • @johnm.withersiv4352
      @johnm.withersiv4352 2 года назад +3

      Nobody that ever did art on Team America was particularly good at drawing motorcycles. Such twisted pieces of metal and rubber.

    • @KTF0
      @KTF0 2 года назад +2

      My favorite part was the sex scene. Oh wait...... that's a different Team America.

    • @krantzbucks
      @krantzbucks 2 года назад +1

      I bought this as I saw the #1 cover and was excited to get to start a marvel title at the beginning.

  • @blackboxedsilverandbronze8894
    @blackboxedsilverandbronze8894 2 года назад +22

    Chris, I laughed so hard watching this video. The videos where you pan bad stories and use sarcasm are where you really shine! Great sense of humor.

  • @CordellPotts
    @CordellPotts 2 года назад +5

    They need to bring Black Marauder back lol.
    They could reveal that it was Rick Jones all along.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 2 года назад

      It was Agatha all along.

  • @bryanabbott6169
    @bryanabbott6169 2 года назад +26

    Speed Racer with Racer X as another influence for the Black Marauder.
    It would've been funny if Team America/Thunder Riders made an appearance in the current X-Men comics, after all they are 'mutants'. Xavier once again abandons the rest of the mutantkind to train TA/TR.... Only to abandon the team like Professor X did to Franklin Richards, claiming they were never mutants, even though he claimed they were in the first place.

    • @davidmcmahon4633
      @davidmcmahon4633 Год назад

      So the Thunder Riders might not exist anymore since the Scarlet Witch eliminated almost all the mutants in the world. Or have they reconned that bit again? Not reading Marvel anymore so I don't know.

    • @bryanabbott6169
      @bryanabbott6169 Год назад

      (Sorry in advance for the long answer 😳)
      The whole 'No More Mutants' and attempt to replace them with the Inhumans was an attempt to stick it to Fox Studios who had the movie (and the TV rights, I believe) to X-Men/Mutant properties.
      Try as they might, it was a scheme that flopped as hard as the time Marvel created Sentinel and claimed he was a 'lost creation of Stan Lee' and the 'One More Day' Spider-Man do-over gimics.
      After Disney was sold the rights to not only the X-Men/Mutants, but also the rest of Fox's TV and Movie properties (such as 'The Simpsons' and the Aliens franchise), Marvel published the House of X/Power of X revival of Mutants in the mainstream Marvel line of comics.
      Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver was 'saved' from the Marvel Mutant purge by retconning the twins to be the creation/offsprings of the High Evolutionary. Marvel skated around whether Wanda was redeemed or not/a mutant or not in a recent X-Men title. After all, if Mutants were ok again, why not Scarlet Witch.
      I hope that Marvel quit messing around with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, and just make them full Mutants (and Magneto's kids) again.

  • @linseyfalls6961
    @linseyfalls6961 2 года назад +9

    I was 9 when TA came out, my friends and I Loved them. We used to role ply with our bikes. That some of the figures had removable helmets was big for us for some reason. I had the dune buggy toy and a motorcycle and almost every comic. Thank you for doing this.

    • @MrKD1970
      @MrKD1970 2 года назад +2

      It was honestly easier to enjoy comics back then as they didn't take themselves as seriously. Hero fights and hopefully beats bad guy. Today, the villian is not usually something a hero can punch but a social Idea. I miss those days.

    • @linseyfalls6961
      @linseyfalls6961 2 года назад

      @@MrKD1970 Agreed.

  • @dlee827
    @dlee827 2 года назад +10

    The heroes being able to combine to summon another one when they're in trouble sounds like the Forever People and Infinity Man. The Forever People were, of course, from, er, New Genesis.

  • @jeremyjones5455
    @jeremyjones5455 2 года назад +6

    As a kid, I had a Team America figure and cycle that came with issue #4. The comic really creeped me out, with the kids being used to power the video games (especially the panel you showed where the bad guys are pulling the dead kid out of the cabinet.)

  • @ericburke9490
    @ericburke9490 2 года назад +11

    I have the full series and loved it as a kid, and re-read it early in the pandemic. Definitely didn’t hold up to my fond memories, but it’s still a series I’ll never sell due to nostalgia.

  • @csako2668
    @csako2668 2 года назад +3

    Don't forget Skywald tried a year earlier than Ghost Rider in 1971 with Hell-Rider by Gary Friedrich, Ross Andru, and Mike Esposito, two issues "Warren" magazine-sized books

  • @Dougeb7
    @Dougeb7 2 года назад +10

    "How to Break Your Neck Magazine"......I think I subscribed to that as a kid, lol! Loved the video and the humor, Chris! I never got to enjoy the Team America comics experience, but I might pick up a couple of issues if I find them cheap. What you've shown us looks to me like an update of the zany golden age style, which I love (in small doses, mind you).

  • @Fen02879
    @Fen02879 2 года назад +7

    So if they're mutants they probably all got depowered in house of M. I wonder if they even noticed since their powers never affected their bike skills.

  • @spartanite67
    @spartanite67 2 года назад +4

    It’s time for The Thunder Riders to pop up on Krakoa

  • @darrylwiggins1156
    @darrylwiggins1156 2 года назад +7

    Could you do a tribute episode on artist Murphy Anderson?In my opinion,he truly deserves it.

  • @Wild4Hockey
    @Wild4Hockey 2 года назад +1

    The Evel Knievel toy was the greatest thing to come out of the 70’s. Excellent show, Chris.

  • @MutethatBozo
    @MutethatBozo 2 года назад +9

    Living next door to a clubhouse full of annoyingly loud Harley riders, I'd have to say that South Park captured their cultural ethos the best....

  • @Dale_The_Space_Wizard
    @Dale_The_Space_Wizard 2 года назад +48

    You have to give total respect to a man who leaves his hospital bed with two broken arms to beat someone with a baseball bat who lied about you in a book. LOL

    • @steve_bal4
      @steve_bal4 2 года назад +4

      I'd have bought a comic book about that!

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 2 года назад +2

      "Lied"
      "Knievel said the book depicted him as a drug addict, adulterer, anti-Semite and “an immoral person.” However, he acknowledged that 85 to 90 per cent of the book is truthful."
      Knieval was just angry it was made public. Most people who knew or dealt with the guy say he was a huge jerk.

    • @Dale_The_Space_Wizard
      @Dale_The_Space_Wizard 2 года назад

      @@Gatorade69 You sound jealous of him. LOL.

    • @ianfinrir8724
      @ianfinrir8724 8 месяцев назад +1

      The amount of spite required to do that, I don't think I've ever been that angry.

  • @thegoht2212
    @thegoht2212 2 года назад +2

    Oh man, I totally had a Marauder toy and couldn't remember where it came from. Learning about my own history in this one!!

  • @williamspellmeyer8300
    @williamspellmeyer8300 2 года назад +1

    I spent the whole episode wondering where I new team America from in the comics, then new mutants was mentioned and it hit me. I remember while doing a read through of all the new mutants thinking about how random that story was and almost immediately forgot about it

  • @theunironicboomerang
    @theunironicboomerang 2 года назад +15

    Thanks for doing this one. There is surprisingly little on the internet about Team America. I recall when the toys came out and my youngest brother got one. I instantly recognized that it was the same toy that I had as a kid, except mine was the Evel Knievel stunt cycle.. Then the comic came out shortly after. I was both a comic fan, especially ghost rider, Capt America And X-Men. I was also a motorcycle fan and even had a small dirt bike of my own.. in concept, this comic should have been everything I wanted. Patriotic, squabbling, motorcycling super mutants. It even had riding tips. I remember buying it faithfully and every month Hoping it would be good.
    Last summer I found one of the old figures at a comic store on the junk bin for just a couple bucks. I then re read my comics. I forgot how bad they were.

    • @juniorjames7076
      @juniorjames7076 2 года назад

      I inherited a partially damaged first issue of this comic from one of my cousins during a family roadtrip. That item did not last long in my possession, my little sister might have colored in some pages, and I have no recollection of every "reading" it per se, but I remember that great cover.

    • @theunironicboomerang
      @theunironicboomerang 2 года назад

      What's also funny is that years later I came to realize that some of those "riding tips" were totally wrong.

  • @crooker23
    @crooker23 2 года назад +1

    Running the bloopers with your patrons/theme is so good, it makes it feel like watching TV

  • @KasumiKenshirou
    @KasumiKenshirou 2 года назад +1

    I'm surprised they actually mentioned Evel Knievel in one of those panels when the toyline was designed to distance itself from him.

  • @jwrush
    @jwrush 2 года назад +2

    My favorite retroactive options for Marauder: 1. Deadpool, 2. Foggy Nelson, 3. Jim Shooter, 4. Professor X, 5. Black Widow

  • @TheArchersTungsten
    @TheArchersTungsten 2 года назад +3

    I haven’t had you pop up in my feed in a long time for some reason, I’m real happy your still making great content . Keep it coming man!

  • @renegade-zeraus
    @renegade-zeraus Год назад +1

    The Marauder also displayed having skills similar to each Team America member, e.g. the strength of Wolf, the recklessness of R. U. Reddy, the stuntwork of Cowboy, the mechanical skills of Wrench, and the ... suaveness (?) or CIA knowhow of James "Honcho" McDonald -- the red herrings Chris was probably referring to as the whole schtick of the series was to have the readers guess who the Marauder really was. And the answer was...both none AND all of them! Cool!

  • @ivane5110
    @ivane5110 2 года назад +5

    I loved all things motorcycle back in the 70's and early 80's (from Evel Knievel to Chips and Wheely and the Chopper Bunch). And a major fan of Captain America. So I can still remember reading the issue these guys debuted in. I had never seen their toys, but would've loved them. And I was so thrilled to get the series. But it either didn't show up regular for some reason or was not competition enough for my quarters, because I had 1,2 and then 8 onward. Even their New Mutants cameos which I had hoped were leading to another series (done right). The disappointing part was that there were many great covers and awesome ideas (Iron Man? Ghost Rider? Hydra? Such potential). As for US1, I really do have a fondness for him, but think he couldve been a bigger hit in the 70s. And wanted to see him team-up with Team America ironically. Maybe with the Human Fly and Mr. T?

  • @sbennettpia
    @sbennettpia Год назад +1

    I like how the fact they're mutants and their power being this big complicated psychic link they can use to summon the Marauder is treated as a big reveal, and yet when Wolf bends a wrench with his bare hands no one even bats an eye.

  • @dcamaag709
    @dcamaag709 2 года назад +1

    It's really cool to see Chris get all these sponsors now.

  • @jwrush
    @jwrush 2 года назад +3

    Their secret origin should have been the Weapon BMX program.

  • @architeuthis3476
    @architeuthis3476 2 года назад +2

    Maybe the reason _Team America_ had to spun out of the _Captain America_ series had something to do with Peter Fonda's character in _Easy Rider_ being called "Captain America"?

  • @arctrooper999
    @arctrooper999 2 года назад +1

    Without looking it up, Wrench reminds me of the guy that piloted Danguard Ace in Shogun Warriors.

  • @cassandralyris4918
    @cassandralyris4918 2 года назад +8

    Y'know, that twist ending in book 6 could've worked, but instead of the bullshit mind control nonsense it could've been Georgina controlling an android using her bike skills in some sort of Sci Fi set up remotely with her psychic powers. Think Cerebro, but it controls an android on a motorcycle. Frankly, that would've been way cooler AND extremely toyetic. Honestly sad that's not the story us 70's and 80's kids got. Also, anyone else notice that nearly all Jim Shooter written stories have people fighting all the time like it's normal? Like, Jim, no man. That ISN'T how everyone tends to work together. I think it gives us some unintentional insight into what it was probably like dealing with Jim Shooter...

  • @JONNYSORENSEN_AU
    @JONNYSORENSEN_AU 2 года назад +5

    You've caught me watching a late night video.

  • @cbuchner6862
    @cbuchner6862 2 года назад +1

    I'd also say the Marauder was patterned after Racer X from Speed Racer.

  • @horizonbrave1533
    @horizonbrave1533 2 года назад

    YES!! The intro was much appreciated!! Oh hi, you caught me appreciating your classic intros...

  • @citizensguard3433
    @citizensguard3433 2 года назад +1

    Great video as always! I love the videos about good comics. A LOT. But these videos about bad or goofy comics (especially weird golden or silver age comics) are my absolute favorite.

  • @victorcabanelas
    @victorcabanelas 2 года назад +8

    As always, great video!
    To me, this is what happens when you only have money in mind and forget about the story. I get why they did it, but I think it's just wrong.
    Cheers from Argentina!

  • @RingsideRebel785
    @RingsideRebel785 6 месяцев назад

    I remember the issue of The THING with the Black Rider on the cover and the blurb saying "They're Back-For the 1st Time! The Fabulous Thunderiders!", and I had no clue who any of these characters were lol

  • @saimaidar9417
    @saimaidar9417 2 года назад +2

    So what we really need from this is a crossover with Team Americs, USA-1 and SuperPro

  • @juniorjames7076
    @juniorjames7076 2 года назад +1

    I inherited a partially damaged first issue of this comic from one of my cousins during a family roadtrip. That item did not last long in my possession, but I remember that great cover.

  • @watchforever1724
    @watchforever1724 2 года назад +1

    Your video just came out this morning so happy for something new

  • @jamesdobson1157
    @jamesdobson1157 2 года назад +1

    Oh hi! You caught me loving the fact that the classic opening gimmick came back😄Missed that so much!

  • @Gojitron1
    @Gojitron1 2 года назад +3

    MCU phase 17.....Team America, US1, The Human Fly and NFL Superpro. Coming to Disney+ in 2037.

  • @thomaskurilenko8053
    @thomaskurilenko8053 2 года назад +1

    Another great Video! I always look forward to these

  • @P0rk_Sinigang
    @P0rk_Sinigang 2 года назад

    That arcade scenario is wild.
    Team America walked so that Snowpiercer could run.

  • @UnlimitedProduction1
    @UnlimitedProduction1 2 года назад

    Georgina being the Maurauder could have been a cool ass plot twist if done right in a Metroid/Samus kinda way

  • @brasswirebrush
    @brasswirebrush 2 года назад +1

    Ow wow, I didn't remember anything about Team America, but as soon as you said RU Ready, I immediately remembered it from my childhood. That name was so dumb that it stuck with me all these years later.

  • @DomCim
    @DomCim 2 года назад +4

    Are you interviewing JM DeMatteis soon?

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  2 года назад +1

      No immediate plans but I admire his work. I’ve made episodes about his work on Kraven’s Last Hunt and Justice League International.

  • @zacharykendall9653
    @zacharykendall9653 2 года назад

    Love the blooper reel at the end Chris!

  • @incubustimelord5947
    @incubustimelord5947 2 года назад +5

    The Thunderiders is a way better super hero team name than Team: America. Team: America sounds like a good name for a professional motorcycle stunt performance team with an American patriotic motif, but it doesn't sound like a good super hero team unless it's a team of American patriotism-based super heroes who are connected to Captain America. The Thunderiders sounds like a much better name for a team of motorcycle riding super heroes who are all a bunch of major badass bikers. Later on, after the Thing from the Fantastic Four had joined the Thunderiders temporarily, Sharon Ventura (formerly Ms. Marvel II and later the monstrous She-Thing, and also even that female creature that she was temporarily mutated into by Doctor Doom) had also joined the Thunderiders, too but for only a short period of time just as well.
    The Thunderiders could've worked but they were all just a product of their late 1970s through the early 1980s period of time when bikers, motorcycles and professional stunt performers were all very popular. They could've competed against not only Ghost Rider and Captain America, but also the super-villain who was patterned after Evil Knievel, the Stunt-Master, a pro motorcyclist stunt man who was middle-aged and forced into retirement because other younger stunt men were much better motorcyclists than him. So in a fit of jealousy, he creates an advanced custom-built, specially-designed motorcycle that enables him to perform stunts easily and quickly, and which make the motorcycle specially-customized to have the rider move faster with better maneuverability using rocket jets for extra speed, and superior hovering technology. Using the "super-motorcycle" that he had made, the Stunt-Master started harassing the other stunt men motorcyclists, and robbing them of their money in revenge for them robbing him of his glory. He was originally an arch-enemy of Daredevil but later became somewhat reformed after he had lost an arm in an accident and had it replaced with a bionic arm. He then joined the Fifty State Initiative after the Super Human Registration Act was passed and became a resident automotive mechanical engineer at the Initiative's Headquarters.
    The Thunderiders, if given the opportunity, could've been granted the chance to shine if more details were made regarding Project: New Genesis and why the experiment seemed to be more than just a coincidence that it only excelled with professional motorcycle riding stunt performers. I'm thinking that it wasn't just advanced science and powerful technology that was at work when it came to the experiment. There had to have also been some kind of supernatural element involved in addition to the genetic engineering used to mutate normal humans into having superhuman mutant children. The Marauder doesn't seem to be a form of advanced weaponry. He seems to be something else beyond that, like a power that is magically-bestowed upon the members of the Thunderiders. Especially through Georgina as the main host body. It also seems to be activated by James MacDonald who has the power to initiate the gestalt psychic power, similar to how the Uni-Mind is started by the Prime Eternal. Wolf, R.U. Reddy, Wrench, and Cowboy, while they are all excellent motorcycle riders and stunt performers, they don't seem to be as skilled as James is, nor do they seem to be able to summon the Marauder like Macdonald can. I guess even with everything that they could do, they just proved to be only good for their time. By the time it was the early 1990s, the Thunderiders (formerly Team: America) were just seen as way too dated and out of style for the '90s.

  • @jwrush
    @jwrush 2 года назад +1

    The idea of five bike riders summoning a sixth one has strong sentai feel, and Marauder rhymes with Driver X. A more manga angle could have worked.
    Oh, and there are similarities to Kamen Rider, too.

  • @edudiego
    @edudiego 2 года назад

    Hey Chris, great work as always! Something is different with the lights this time though?

  • @MrKD1970
    @MrKD1970 2 года назад +3

    The point you rose about changing creative teams makes sense as I feel that way about most marvel books today. Even down to the bait and switch great cover artists vs the so-so interior artists. Just my take.

  • @WillHinds
    @WillHinds Год назад

    I like the outtakes Chris, nice way to repurpose that footage.

  • @jdespirito
    @jdespirito 2 года назад +1

    Oh damn, is that a Cybertronic Spree pin!?

  • @glenschroeder301
    @glenschroeder301 2 года назад +1

    Loved Team America. The Wolf obviously was my favorite R.U. Reddy was his comedic foil.

  • @kitescuriosities7717
    @kitescuriosities7717 Год назад

    I can see The Black Marauder getting his own issue and being a “rediscovered” character that gets his own movie/TV deal like The Peacemaker.

  • @MrFtpforlife
    @MrFtpforlife 2 года назад +1

    I love the “Oh hi” intros are back

  • @edkwon
    @edkwon 2 года назад

    I grew up as a kid in the late 70s and 80s, I had a friend who had the Black Marauder toy and I remember the somewhat iconic cover of the 1st issue of Team America, thanks for the nostalgia trip

  • @ROMANTIKILLER2
    @ROMANTIKILLER2 2 года назад +1

    Well, Ghost Rider is a flaming skull biker feuding with the devil... pretty difficult to match his cool factor with a superhero team based on repurposed toy.

  • @labsquadmedia176
    @labsquadmedia176 2 года назад +1

    The Black Marauder remindes me of Psi-Hawk from the New Universe's PSI-Force. Wasn't that Jim Shooter as well?

  • @stargate121
    @stargate121 2 года назад

    I love all the head shake motion lines on 31:55.

  • @T.R.R.Jolkien
    @T.R.R.Jolkien 2 года назад +1

    This is sooo bonkers! I have every Team America comic but lost this issue and you’re reading it to me. I remember the story. The only letter I ever wrote to Stan Lee was about Team America. Thanks again… 😎🇺🇸

  • @jdeez1492
    @jdeez1492 2 года назад +1

    "How to break your neck magazine" sounded like a norm macdonald punchline.

  • @andersonic
    @andersonic 2 года назад

    Another excellent episode. It's remarkable how Chris makes these 12 issues far more entertaining than it ever could have been to read them. I really appreciate how you steer clear of being mean even on a misfire like this.

  • @kayag8
    @kayag8 2 года назад +6

    I think the biggest problem is that its just not cool. Who wants to read about 5 genric motorcycle riders over Spiderman? They all look the same and there's only so many stories you can tell about them

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 2 года назад

      Right

    • @marcmcfinn7470
      @marcmcfinn7470 2 года назад

      Of course they all look the same, they're on the same team. You could say the same thing about Hydra or the Detroit Pistons.

  • @WarriorSmurf
    @WarriorSmurf 2 года назад +2

    The Snake Eyes similarity was probably just a coincidemce. G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero was actually developed at Marvel and pitched to Hasbro by Larry Hama with help from Bob Budiansky. I know someone who was there.

  • @gerryvanblokland922
    @gerryvanblokland922 2 года назад +1

    Needs a gritty reboot by Rick Remender and Sean Murphy.

  • @michaellangwaller
    @michaellangwaller 2 года назад +1

    The time is ripe for a Team America reboot using electric motorcycles and the team members fully embracing their mutant (and different, though that one creating The Marauder is pretty cool) powers.

  • @scottwagner2566
    @scottwagner2566 2 года назад

    It's so weird (and a little refreshing) seeing a normal Nord VPN ad.

  • @allimone5400
    @allimone5400 2 года назад +1

    When I was a kid I bought all the issues on the newstands, and I really liked them. I remember being disappointed with the Ghost Rider issue. I tried to get my friends, fellow Marvellites, but none of them wanted to try it. I believe they said it was because of the art.

  • @stevenfunderburg1623
    @stevenfunderburg1623 2 года назад

    It's funny imagining Chris actually sitting down and reading these!😂🤣🤘

  • @noneofyourbusiness4616
    @noneofyourbusiness4616 2 года назад

    Never thought we'd see you give a wrench-around.

  • @zefem
    @zefem 2 года назад

    Great stuff as always chris!

  • @bigb5206
    @bigb5206 2 года назад

    I have never heard of this but I have ROM & Micronauts & GI JOE and I grew up in this time frame?

  • @kilroywashere513
    @kilroywashere513 2 года назад

    The cofounder of my channel Jeff’s brother has a copy of the first issue of Team America, and so does he, and I’m familiar with this too, and I remember the toy line from the eighties also.

  • @karabearcomics
    @karabearcomics 2 года назад

    I've thought that you could possibly do a whole video about various advertising superheroes, ones made only to hock a product, especially in case some might not be able to carry an episode on their own. I can think of Captain Tootsie and Rollo (Tootsie Rolls), Kooba Kid (Kooba Cola), Combo Man (Combos), Sprocket Man (bicycle safety), and I know there's more. But maybe some of those could fill an episode by themselves (though not the Kooba Kid, as he was in maybe 2 stories, which together would only be about 1 page long).

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  2 года назад

      I’ve done several like that. A Combo Man episode and one about promo books like Captain Citrus.

    • @karabearcomics
      @karabearcomics 2 года назад

      @@ComicTropes How did I forget those? Well, maybe you'll get to Captain Tootsie eventually. He seems like the most interesting of those old advertising superheroes. Though one could find it interesting to look into Major Inapak, the sci-fi hero hocking a Quik-like drink.

  • @jacklucas2123
    @jacklucas2123 2 года назад

    Thanks for the interesting video Chris, keep up the great content!

  • @Aaron-zt5ee
    @Aaron-zt5ee Год назад

    The concept of the Black Marauder is unique enough that it could have led to some interesting stories in a more cohesive series.

  • @richmcgee434
    @richmcgee434 2 года назад

    15:02 "..trap them all in some sort of weird shape. I don't know what to call this." Don't you recognize a nullagon when you see one? Cripes, they even name it in the dialog. :)

  • @smithryansmith
    @smithryansmith 2 года назад

    22:06 those are some ample busoms to be featured in a kid's book. I'm not complaining mind you.
    The maurader/Snake-eyes connection was pretty obvious.
    And that girl that Wolf sleeps with is maybe 14 at most. Here's El Lobo, or El Pedo.

  • @reiatomsk
    @reiatomsk 2 года назад

    I love this openings so much, always creative and funny. Your channel is great and your videos are entertaining, thanks a lot.
    If I may suggest something, read "as aventuras de Megaman" based on the Capcom's blue robot franchise. It's a Brazilian comic, by the way

  • @MaxibonHR
    @MaxibonHR 2 года назад

    30:13 I feel like that Leonardo DiCaprio GIF of him pointing at the screen from OUATIH, and this is the second time I've had art featured AAA

  • @davidbranch1077
    @davidbranch1077 Год назад

    I had the toy Team America, the chopper toy and the scrambler bike and rider, ( the Mirador) .
    These of course was wind-up and go toys, I was born in 73 and get the toys in 76.

  • @ArticulatedDoom
    @ArticulatedDoom 2 года назад +1

    🎶 America! F*ck yeah!!! 🎶
    Edit:Damn...I didn't think you were gonna make the reference...

  • @AlexanderBlues1228
    @AlexanderBlues1228 2 года назад

    I’m kind of shocked that John Byrne didn’t have these guys turn up in “She-Hulk” the way the “US-1” characters did!