This is why I no longer do reviews, all people need to do is watch your channel and they get all the unbiased info they could ever need. you are doing an amazing job and i'm a big fan :)
You know, the scientific method is valid because it can be reproduced! Nothing wrong in doing videos that confirms other reviews, I’d watch that! I would be forking 1100€ or something, so the more sure I am the better 😅
This is THE BEST 3D printer review channel. Thanks for providing another fantastic review! I might have to try out a Qidi next to my Bambu P1P and Vorons now!!
Holy, this channel is absolute gold, you're doing a great job staying current, and i love that you're focused on the product, no filler, and no unnecessary commentary.
I am impressed with the info and professional videos you make. The bloopers are awesome. I took the leap and ordered the Bambulabs X1 carbon. I should get it Friday, with AMS. Keep the signal going strong, thank you again😎🤣
It’s a new race to the bottom but now it’s for core xy systems with klipper out of the box. What a huge jump :D. The fact that things like this . The flsun v400, bamboo labs etc I can’t wait to see an insanely cheap klipper cube printer
@@brokencreationlordmegatrol3037 "Insanely cheap". Price was off in this review. The price quoted is promotional if you look a 2:26. It's actually 1100 USD MSRP.
I’d love to see a side by side between this and the X1 Carbon and maybe even the Creality K1 Series. Bambu Labs set the bar and so many companies have been really aggressive competing
I've binge watched many of your reviews and they are solid information and great pro/cons. I also really enjoyed the outtakes at the end, something you and your brother should consider as a regular bit.
Fantastic review. I've pre-ordered a X-PLUS 3 for UK delivery and this will be my third QIDI printer. You forgot to add in the Pros & Cons that QIDI Customer Service is legendary. Whenever I've contacted them their service and support has been outstanding.
Great review! Keep them coming. Love the suggestion at the end of being able to link older QiDi machines to the new board via unused USB. I have an X Plus original and would make use of that.
I just purchased the X Plus for $649 with free shipping and it arrived in 3 days. I'm basically a complete noob in the 3D area with an FLSUN SR being my first printer....and it's only 2 months old;-) The prints on the X Plus are usually much better than the prints coming off of the SR...but both are very good. The included Qidi PLA Rapido is very nice to print with. It is certainly better than the Amazon or Sunlu filaments, but not by much. I think the inexpensive filament will be fine for most jobs that I attempt. As for warping and bed temps, I noticed that the SR bed is off by about 8 degrees from what it says it is (using a digital temp gun). The Qidi bed is only off a degree or two. Both beds are much cooler near the edges, so glue may be necessary for those larger prints. Although I've been unsuccessful in loading the X Plus in Cura or Orca slicer for wireless printing, the included Qidi slicer works well and I really like this function. Not smart enough yet to figure out Fluid or Mainsail.....someday. Thank you for your videos and excellent reviews. You've been a big help to me!
Hello again, I'm so glad you got the chance to review the Qidi X-Plus 3. I placed an order a few days ago, blindly, and seen only 2 reviews-including yours. I have an i-mate s which I love btw. Your amazing review makes me feel like I made a great choice. I also noticed the cutter on the print head and hope we do get a color change system one day. Question- when you printed PLA, did you switch to the copper nozzle or print with the high temp one? Another question, the aux cooling fan, is it stationary or does it move with the print bed? Thank you again for you review as I always look forward to when you post a new one! -Pauly B
I don't believe she printed with any abrasive filaments for the video so my guess is she didn't use the hardened nozzle other than to show the process of the nozzle swap. (Both nozzles are high temp apparently) The fan looks fixed on the side of the case. The hotend assembly is a set height on CoreXY though.
Thanks for the info. So far it’s been printing PLA and PETG good. ABS is new for me so I’m learning and the support from QiDi has been Amazing!!!! They have sent me so many new and free parts for just in case I might need them for the future.
Interesting, I love my Qidi X-Plus. I added a chamber heater to that and a glass bed when I want it. It has proven to be very reliable, producing good quality prints in a variety of materials.
Really? You added a heated chamber? Bro tell me what is the max temperature of your heated chamber that you added and how did you do it pls tell me i want to try it i am expert at electronics so i can try it
As I trust your reviews completely for the honesty and thoroughness you employ, a vender must have confidence in the model they send to you for review. QiDi must feel the X-Plus-3 is going to pass your testing; from what you presented, it did. I can't recall you using superlatives so often; I, too, for the cost vs. features am amazed. I would love to support your work yet I don't know how to do that. Please let me know how as you saved me so much time and money; and now I get some laughs with your bloopers! I noticed that the bed leveling data showed about a 2 mm out of level across the X axis; perhaps the z axis lead screws could be 'adjusted' to reduce that amount even with the correction algorithm applied. Comments?
Excellent review!! Mine will be delivered April 12!! Not sure where I’m going to put it since I have the QIDI X-CF Pro and another printer as well, but I will figure it out! 😊
Remains to be seen what Bambu Lab comes out with next. With all the competition they're getting, they must come out with something unbelievable (again) to shock the system and further alter what is viewed as good value. Dual extruder (and an evolution of the AMS) and heated chamber, with bigger bed and possibly even doing something like a super fast conveyer bed printer would be a way they could once again stand out.
I can see them adding bigger, but I hope they keep and support the X1C and P1P for a few years. If they iterate and drop off older models too fast, people will get peeved over the lack of support for a 2-3 year old printer.
I think the best route to go is get a p1p, buy the aux fan, hardened steel nozzle and gears, and there's even this high-flow nozzle you can get to make the bambu lab printers print faster and better quality at higher speeds. Also you can print the enclosure for the p1p. That seems to be the best route to take right now imo but I'm sure in a month or 2 there will be something better.
Girl i am blown away by the quality and substance of your reviews and i have seen a lot superficial reviews out there ,well done and congratulations to you and your brother ,dont change, two questions if you please , 1) would you recommend this qidi over bambu labs p1p or the upcoming creality k1? and 2) what would be your recommendation for a 3d printer under 300 euros?
Great review! I miss info on how to maintain the motion system. Are they gonna offer kits to replace parts or is it the "send the whole printer back for repairs" approach we've seen with Bambu Lab. The latter is a No-Go imo since you can't rely on a maintenance process that happens over 100 miles aeay from where you are.
Yet another great review, thank you. Loved the outtakes at the end! You (and your brother) should definitely include a few from now on. The one question I have that wasn't addressed: can you use Cura, Prusaslicer, Superslicer, etc. instead of Qidi's version of Cura? I'd assume you can, but too many manufacturers are starting to go proprietary, so confirmation would be nice.
Excellent review - thank you. I have been having a mechanical issue with my X1CC that creates oval holes on all z faces and have not been able to get Bambu support to resolve it. I'm seriously considering purchasing the X-Plus 3 and selling my X1CC. Your review was extremely helpful as I weigh that decision.
I ordered this printer after yours review and was waiting to shipping in last week of april from EU warehouse. Today after ask about my order i get answer: "Because some users reported that there are some problems with X-Plus 3, we decided to stop selling this machine. At present, there is no specific notification of the re-launch and delivery time." Sadly canceled my order :(
But can it actually stand up to the advertising print speed of 600mm/s? I saw you were printing about 220mm/s which is quite impressive. How would you compare this printer or the Qidi tech x-max 3 priced at $1,099 to let's say Voron 2.4re or Troodon 2.4?We would love a Troodon 2.0 review and see if it can even come close to the boasted 500mm/s print speeds!
I'm planning to start producing fairly large ASA parts later this year. These Qidi machines are really tempting. I was eying off the ifast, but it's so expensive. I don't need a 5k commercial machine, but likely need more heat than you get in an X1C etc. Hopefully they release something with dual extruders and this new speed tech at a more approachable price soon. If bambu added active heating, that would be a deal breaker. I am quite interested in the prusa xl, but it's not even enclosed.
I bought one, it couldn't print ABS or ASA without clogging. if you only want to print PLA and don't need a heated chamber it's not bad, but if you want to do something serious with it, buy something else. I bought one. It was fully refunded.
@@GreybushGamer And mine prints ABS/ASA/flexibles/and other high end filaments with zero problems. And the chamber temp get's up to 55c which works fine. Only 1 clog in 6 months. I guess mine was from the first batch maybe the QC has dropped as the orders piled in.
@@Kman31ca we're not talking about the X1C, we're talking about the Qidi X-Plus 3. The X1C prints great. the X-Plus 3 will overheat with a chamber temp of 40C and shutdown the MCU in stock form. The MCU cooling is insufficient in stock form and the chamber heater WILL cause it to turn off... among other problems. Also, stock firmware won't let you set the active heater to 55 degrees, that's why I was asking. The X-Plus 3 is hot garbage when it comes to ABS/ASA/high-temp. Even modded, with a chamber heater at 50C, my hotend would clog endlessly. Go watch the clough42 review of the machine. It's not worth the money.
I love your that your content is very thorough and the fact that you test across the board on competing printers. This model has a very similar construction (albeit smaller) to the X-Max. There's another reviewer that Experienced 'movement' in the Z axis Via Heat Expansion of .5mm after the initial probing and during the printing process. Is this something you can look into? Or noticed through your usage with the heated chamber?
I've switched to using an inductive sensor for Z homing, which provides better accuracy for the first layer. To do this, you can edit the printer.cfg file in Klipper. By default, the machine uses the Z-limit switch at the bottom and travels all the way down and back up for homing, which is not ideal. However, this is a simple fix and shouldn't have anything to do with the heated chamber.
@@AuroraTech That great to know! I'll try to get an inductive sensor as well for the X-max I have preordered. But I believe this issue had more to do with the z-axis screws being mounted to the thin base panel of the chamber, without a solid anchor to the framework. So naturally as the chamber heated up the plastic panel "lifted" the z-axis and the build platform .5mm mid-print. Are you able to place a dial indicator on the build plate and heat the chamber just to see if it moves?
Good morning! After a few weeks, what happens with VOCs and fine particles? They don't disappear... Qidi has a filter or not? Where are these things going? Should we put a closed enclosure over... this closed printer!?
If the x-plus 3 has the cutter for the filament in the print head, where could the discharge of the filament take place for a possible multifilament system? if it doesn't have some sort of chute, any multifilament system would require the use of purge towers. The bambulab printers have been designed better and an example is the multiple functionality of the filament chute, which is used both for multi-color printers (allowing also to increase the usable space on the print bed by removing the purge tower) and all start of each print to clean the nozzle. The x-plus 3 has its concrete advantages but always lacks the attention to detail that would give it a feeling of a premium product.
Thank you for the great review! Being new, and I mean new car smell new, to 3D printing I took a leap of faith purchasing this unit as my first printer. Your review made me feel a whole lot better about my choice. So thank you! One question: when you printed with ABS, were the fumes well contained? This one has no carbon filter. Again, thank you!
Good morning! After a few weeks, what happens to your printer's VOCs and fine particles? They don't disappear... Qidi has a filter or not? Where are these things going?
Very interesting, I do like the fact that it uses klipper over a completely custom option. That should allow you to use other hotends and be less at the mercy of the company. I really like the fact that it includes the dry box and the second hotend stock athough as you said it would be nice if it had the fan to make it a lot faster to swap. Does it use standard V6 nozzles or use a volcano or a MK10 like the old version did or is it a single piece that all needs to be replaced, I couldn't really tell and they had no replacement parts available yet.
Assuming as looking at the website doesn't give the info, it comes with a 7mm wrench which would line up with V6. Standard or volcano length is still in the air.
@@ScuffedEngineer The difference is that the MK10 nozzles they use for the other printers still use a 7mm wrench but are different threads than the standard V6 nozzles. The MK10 nozzle are really uncommon common so you can't get things like a volcano or CHT nozzle in them. That said I honestly don't think a MK10 nozzle would even work with that kind of flow rate so I doubt that is what it uses.
Did you need to re-adjust the z axis offset between different filaments? You can see on your purge lines on each print, some are squished ribbon and some are lifting from the bed.
I received this machine a while ago, and the firmware was not updated. Initially, it was using the optical limit switch at the bottom for Z homing, which was a bad idea. As a result, I had to adjust the Z offset occasionally. However, after updating to the latest firmware that uses the inductive sensor for Z homing, I no longer need to make any adjustments.
Hi Aurora, I was thinking about getting the x-max, now I'm undecided with this new x-plus3, I like the sturdy structure of the x-max but I don't know if the latest products have the double-gear extrusion, of the x-plus3 I'm afraid the reliability linked to speed and accelerations, furthermore, in addition to the doubts about the carbon guides, the diameters of those of the z and y axes are not known. What do you advise? Thank you
Is this printer open source? Can you build and flash Klipper yourself? I'm very interested in buying a Bambu Lab or similar printer, but I don't want to get locked into any ecosystem. Imo there's a spot on the market for printers that offer this level of (pre-built) hardware quality but also the versatility and modularity of open source.
I have had my X-Plus 3 for six weeks now, after giving away my older X Plus. I'm now wishing I had kept the older model. Issues with my X-Plus 3 are numerous, reliability and print quality being the top issues. Also, after homing the system and I jog the table to the top, the "ZERO" position is actually about 1.5mm from the nozzle tip. Sometimes, when I jog it to the top, the Z axis will shut off when it's within 10mm, which results in the table drifting to the bottom. Other issues, NO fail-safe sensors to stop a inaccurately homed table from crashing into the nozzle or into the frame at the bottom. To top it off, there is virtually no documentation beyond a very basic quick start guide. Finally, the older X Plus made noticeably better parts. If all you are going to make are low resolution parts (over .2mm per layer) then you might be okay with this machine. I have YET to make a .16mm layer part that isn't a huge FAIL! And this is from PLA. I'm not even going to try it with ABS or something else. IMO, the firmware on this machine needs work. When selecting parts to make from their thumb drive, the user interface NEVER displays the part on the first try. I have to make multiple tries (as in over 5 tries) before the user interface will display the part. Update: I HATE this piece of crap! My two year old X Plus was slower but at least it WORKED. I loaded their new firmware (per their suggestion), and it now causes the extruder assy to crash into the finished part, with the last crash resulting in the extruder cover being knocked off. There are only two possibilities, either their firmware is crap or their slicer is crap. This system is beta at best and should have never been released for sale.
Didn't see much about materials or build quality? The Bambu X1 has that steel frame, metal panels and a generally solid and hefty build. The interior of shots of Qidi's look like a lot of injection-moulded plastic panels and parts. The Bambu gives an impression of premium quality, this gives the impression of a budget copy. Sure, it's cheaper but you lose the really cool features (Lidar, Camera, and all the idiot-proofing error detection features) in exchange for a chamber heater. I think I'd rather pay the extra $400 to get the added features and the general build quality improvements. More importantly, however, neither is actually a must-buy anymore. The X1 was amazingly alluring when first launched and stood head and shoulders above the competition. But in less than a year we've seen multiple other manufacturers leveraging these ideas to compete, and all the machines released (or releasing) have ended up looking like 1st gen, early-adopter models. At this point I need to wait another year to see where they take this next. I want someone to combine all these cool features (lightweight hotends, carbon rods, lidar sensors, error detetction, multi-material) with dual extruders. The purge/prime wastage is the biggest flaw in the Bambu. Fix that and you'll be onto a winner.
Hello Aurora. Than you for another perfect review. May I ask, is there some kind of ventilation with Active Carbon filter, as X1-C have ? I cannot find it anywhere on the Qidi page. Thank you for info.
Your reviews are the best on this Plattform. You started strong and got stronger and stronger and better and better. Your awesome. Thank you for your work and effort! Anyway the hotend solutions on the Bambu and the Qidi are still not satisfying and seem strangely outdated. The best solution so far is the still the 3dgence one (Which is probably 10 years old, but still an awesome printer) and some of the flashforge printers. Changing the hotend should be a matter of seconds and not of screws. In addition a modern Printer should have closed loop steppers. I hope the next generation will adress both issues. Thank you again
I always have the feeling I should have waited when I buy a new printer. Not so much here but on some other features that could be implemented rather easily. Just got the v400 and I feel like I am missing out ok load cell leveling of the Prusa MK4. Also hotswapable hotends would be a neat feature. It's not so much about the printer itself (would not trade it for the slow Mk4) but about the missed potential.
Hi I ended up buying one of these QiDi XPLUS 3 printers. I don't see any way to preheat the machine, like other printers. I'm I just missing it ?Please HELP.
I'm brand new to 3d printing and need something to print ASA. Should I get the Qidi or save for Bambu Lab or Prusa mk4? The other option was to mod an Egeloo Neptune 3 plus with an all metal hot-end and use a grow-tent to keep the internal temps up. It seems the Qidi may take a few attempts to get the settings right for a specific filament, but that's not the end of the world.
Depends, I definately wouldn't go with a P1P or Mk4 because ASA needs an enclosure. That limits you to only the X1C and the Qidi. Even then I wouldn't print ASA outside of well ventilated area or ideally you have a way to vent the printer or an enclosure for it to outdoors.
What is the fastest you have done a print to where The print Quality is almost perfect? Just asking it seems the faster your print it the more print quality is sacraficed
Wow, seeing some good 3d printers coming out lately. High speed(klipper/ input shaping/ bmbu labs), new index tech(j1), tool changer(xl). I hope the XL tool changer works well, haven't seen anyone with multi tool XL yet.
@AuroraTech I bought a Qidi X-CF PRO last year for the high temp hot end (350c) so I could use high temp carbon fiber nylon filament to test print the hardware tools that I design. It was expensive but I liked that it was pretty much ready to use right out of the box because it came already assembled like the X-PLUS 3 in your video did. After watching your review video on the QiDi X-PLUS 3, it seems like it is better than the X-CF PRO but for half the price, am I missing something? Maybe you could do a QiDi X-PLUS 3 vs Qidi X-CF Pro comparison video so people wont over pay for a so called "carbon fiber printer" when basically any printer with a hardened, high temp nozzle will work just fine.
No, you didn't miss anything. The new Klipper series is better than the old QiDi, thanks to BambuLab. It has changed the market and now everybody is trying to catch up. From what I can tell, the solid aluminum heated bed in the old QiDi has been replaced with a standard PCB type heated bed commonly used on other budget printers. Apart from that, yes, the X-PLUS 3 is both cheaper and better than the X-CF.
Seems like every company was in a race to get their X1C clone on the market, and QiDi made some sacrifices to be the first. I'm glad Bambu shook up the market so much like we all hoped, looking forward to seeing every other companies attempt to compete with the X1. Hopefully we get some actual innovation though, rather than just 1:1 clones like the QiBi.
Its not like corexy printers are something new, lots of them were made long before bambulabs. They have some new things like that scanning thing , but rest is clone of other printers
Good thing they waited this long for Stratasis patents on heated build chambers to expire before attempted this. Now to see how the incumbent will react.
ok cool, but with the bambu lab machines it wasn't mentioned how they are locked down on both hardware and software, and that you cannot quite mod it like an ender 3 v2 because it has proprietary connections and parts . how about this one? is it open source? or are you stuck with them for hardware and software? it's such a critical point as i want absolutely nothing to do with the company after buying their printer and perhaps buy spare parts directly from them or contact for warranty, i absolutely don't want to rely on them for slicing software or firmware, i DEFINITELY don't want repair that requires me to send back the entire bloody machine while missing it for weeks on end and be able to mod it without proprietary parts that may not be sold anymore in a few years from purchase.
This is exactly why I ordered the X-Plus 3. I had an X1CC for a while but the closed ecosystem really turned me off being an enthusiast. This one should be pretty open considering they use klipper. Hopefully it gains enough traction in the community as to get lots of support.
The X-plus 2 began silently shipping to people around Nov. If they're releasing a third itineration, then I want a replacement of the 3rd gen. My xplus2 has had so many things replaced or found to be manufactured out of spec. The Y access rails were not even parallel. I didn't get the x-max because of the improvements the xplus2 had, then in Jan silently released the xmax2. I would have spent the extra money with them if they were better at marketing..
How loud is this compared to the Bambu printers? Users of those say it's like a jet engine compared to quiet 3D printers. How is the vibration? The Bambu looks like an angry cat trying to get out of a pet crate sometimes.
Seems like a great competitor to the X1 at a better price. I need multi-material for my business though, so I will have to stick with Bambu till QiDi comes out with their own mutli-material solution.
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This is why I no longer do reviews, all people need to do is watch your channel and they get all the unbiased info they could ever need. you are doing an amazing job and i'm a big fan :)
So better than P1P ?
I'm a big fan too. Such a big amount of detail and in deep testing.
Hey 3D Maker Noob!!!.........I wondered what happen to you, Glad to know you still rock and roll!!!.........Take Care!!!
Dang you are the guy that got me started with printing lol. That's awesome you watch Aurora!
You know, the scientific method is valid because it can be reproduced! Nothing wrong in doing videos that confirms other reviews, I’d watch that! I would be forking 1100€ or something, so the more sure I am the better 😅
This is THE BEST 3D printer review channel. Thanks for providing another fantastic review! I might have to try out a Qidi next to my Bambu P1P and Vorons now!!
Buy it before end of May when the price goes up to X1 (and Prusa) level...
@@Trust_me_I_am_an_Engineer Yes! I saw that. I am eyeing up the larger 325 x 325 x 325 Qidi. Pretty impressive for $1099!!
Holy, this channel is absolute gold, you're doing a great job staying current, and i love that you're focused on the product, no filler, and no unnecessary commentary.
I am impressed with the info and professional videos you make. The bloopers are awesome. I took the leap and ordered the Bambulabs X1 carbon. I should get it Friday, with AMS. Keep the signal going strong, thank you again😎🤣
the x1c+ams really is an awesome setup
Bambu lab has influenced allot of companies. I feel like this is gonna start another better ender3 race.
It’s a new race to the bottom but now it’s for core xy systems with klipper out of the box. What a huge jump :D. The fact that things like this . The flsun v400, bamboo labs etc I can’t wait to see an insanely cheap klipper cube printer
I very much hope so. We needed that industry push. Feels like when Apple released the 1st iPhone.
Yes , companies really need to be influenced to make enclosed corexy printer, never seen before
Nah man, it's a ripoff of the 3d systems Cube 3d.
@@brokencreationlordmegatrol3037 "Insanely cheap". Price was off in this review. The price quoted is promotional if you look a 2:26. It's actually 1100 USD MSRP.
I definitely enjoyed the outtakes at the end :) Good to see you smile a little more and show some of your personality
I’d love to see a side by side between this and the X1 Carbon and maybe even the Creality K1 Series. Bambu Labs set the bar and so many companies have been really aggressive competing
OMG I'm a X-Plus user here and when you said 'auto leveling' I was like I'm buying it NOW! :)
I've binge watched many of your reviews and they are solid information and great pro/cons. I also really enjoyed the outtakes at the end, something you and your brother should consider as a regular bit.
Fantastic review. I've pre-ordered a X-PLUS 3 for UK delivery and this will be my third QIDI printer. You forgot to add in the Pros & Cons that QIDI Customer Service is legendary. Whenever I've contacted them their service and support has been outstanding.
Great video as always. Love the bloopers, especially that last giggle 🥰
Great review! Keep them coming. Love the suggestion at the end of being able to link older QiDi machines to the new board via unused USB. I have an X Plus original and would make use of that.
An interesting printer, and a excellent review!
Are you planning to get a MK4? Would love a direct competition between a MK4 and X1C!
The closed caption community agrees, you used "a shitty pla" to print a calibration cube. Thank you 😂
We are so happy to have your reviews to keep up to date. Thank you.
So glad to see bambu flipped the entire industry and now all these other guys are stepping up there game
I just purchased the X Plus for $649 with free shipping and it arrived in 3 days. I'm basically a complete noob in the 3D area with an FLSUN SR being my first printer....and it's only 2 months old;-) The prints on the X Plus are usually much better than the prints coming off of the SR...but both are very good. The included Qidi PLA Rapido is very nice to print with. It is certainly better than the Amazon or Sunlu filaments, but not by much. I think the inexpensive filament will be fine for most jobs that I attempt. As for warping and bed temps, I noticed that the SR bed is off by about 8 degrees from what it says it is (using a digital temp gun). The Qidi bed is only off a degree or two. Both beds are much cooler near the edges, so glue may be necessary for those larger prints. Although I've been unsuccessful in loading the X Plus in Cura or Orca slicer for wireless printing, the included Qidi slicer works well and I really like this function. Not smart enough yet to figure out Fluid or Mainsail.....someday. Thank you for your videos and excellent reviews. You've been a big help to me!
Could you possibly review the new iteration of this printer since it had a re-release.
Hello again,
I'm so glad you got the chance to review the Qidi X-Plus 3. I placed an order a few days ago, blindly, and seen only 2 reviews-including yours. I have an i-mate s which I love btw. Your amazing review makes me feel like I made a great choice. I also noticed the cutter on the print head and hope we do get a color change system one day.
Question- when you printed PLA, did you switch to the copper nozzle or print with the high temp one?
Another question, the aux cooling fan, is it stationary or does it move with the print bed?
Thank you again for you review as I always look forward to when you post a new one!
-Pauly B
I don't believe she printed with any abrasive filaments for the video so my guess is she didn't use the hardened nozzle other than to show the process of the nozzle swap. (Both nozzles are high temp apparently)
The fan looks fixed on the side of the case. The hotend assembly is a set height on CoreXY though.
Thanks for the info. So far it’s been printing PLA and PETG good. ABS is new for me so I’m learning and the support from QiDi has been Amazing!!!! They have sent me so many new and free parts for just in case I might need them for the future.
Would you recommend this one or the P1P for a first time 3d printer purchase? This seems to be more bang for the buck.
I don’t even have a 3D printer but your reviews are helping me a lot decide on a decision thank you so much I still don’t know which one I want.
Interesting, I love my Qidi X-Plus. I added a chamber heater to that and a glass bed when I want it. It has proven to be very reliable, producing good quality prints in a variety of materials.
Really? You added a heated chamber? Bro tell me what is the max temperature of your heated chamber that you added and how did you do it pls tell me i want to try it i am expert at electronics so i can try it
I really appreciate your in-depth reviews. Thank you.
As I trust your reviews completely for the honesty and thoroughness you employ, a vender must have confidence in the model they send to you for review. QiDi must feel the X-Plus-3 is going to pass your testing; from what you presented, it did. I can't recall you using superlatives so often; I, too, for the cost vs. features am amazed. I would love to support your work yet I don't know how to do that. Please let me know how as you saved me so much time and money; and now I get some laughs with your bloopers!
I noticed that the bed leveling data showed about a 2 mm out of level across the X axis; perhaps the z axis lead screws could be 'adjusted' to reduce that amount even with the correction algorithm applied. Comments?
Excellent review!! Mine will be delivered April 12!! Not sure where I’m going to put it since I have the QIDI X-CF Pro and another printer as well, but I will figure it out! 😊
Remains to be seen what Bambu Lab comes out with next. With all the competition they're getting, they must come out with something unbelievable (again) to shock the system and further alter what is viewed as good value. Dual extruder (and an evolution of the AMS) and heated chamber, with bigger bed and possibly even doing something like a super fast conveyer bed printer would be a way they could once again stand out.
Imagine a Bambu printer with idex
I can see them adding bigger, but I hope they keep and support the X1C and P1P for a few years. If they iterate and drop off older models too fast, people will get peeved over the lack of support for a 2-3 year old printer.
Bambu with idx and a conveyor belt
These reviews are honestly incredible. Only the facts, and design advice for the manufacturer. Would you recommend this over a K1 Max?
Yeah, this over K1 Max.
Great review as usual. I would have liked to see a comparison of the noise level as well.
As always your channel is outstanding with plenty of information and I love the bloopers at the end. Thank you.
Thanks aurora tech for another unbiased and awesome review. Keep up the good work. Anxious to see how you like the k1!
I think the best route to go is get a p1p, buy the aux fan, hardened steel nozzle and gears, and there's even this high-flow nozzle you can get to make the bambu lab printers print faster and better quality at higher speeds. Also you can print the enclosure for the p1p. That seems to be the best route to take right now imo but I'm sure in a month or 2 there will be something better.
Review was very helpful, packed with information. Thank you! QiDi X-Plus and Ender 5 S1 have been printers I've been looking into.
To the point but at the same time to the detail. No word is wasted in your presentation. Awesome. If there was an EVA voice. I would use yours.
Girl i am blown away by the quality and substance of your reviews and i have seen a lot superficial reviews out there ,well done and congratulations to you and your brother ,dont change, two questions if you please , 1) would you recommend this qidi over bambu labs p1p or the upcoming creality k1? and 2) what would be your recommendation for a 3d printer under 300 euros?
Great review!
I miss info on how to maintain the motion system. Are they gonna offer kits to replace parts or is it the "send the whole printer back for repairs" approach we've seen with Bambu Lab.
The latter is a No-Go imo since you can't rely on a maintenance process that happens over 100 miles aeay from where you are.
Yet another great review, thank you. Loved the outtakes at the end! You (and your brother) should definitely include a few from now on.
The one question I have that wasn't addressed: can you use Cura, Prusaslicer, Superslicer, etc. instead of Qidi's version of Cura? I'd assume you can, but too many manufacturers are starting to go proprietary, so confirmation would be nice.
Excellent review - thank you. I have been having a mechanical issue with my X1CC that creates oval holes on all z faces and have not been able to get Bambu support to resolve it. I'm seriously considering purchasing the X-Plus 3 and selling my X1CC. Your review was extremely helpful as I weigh that decision.
I ordered this printer after yours review and was waiting to shipping in last week of april from EU warehouse.
Today after ask about my order i get answer:
"Because some users reported that there are some problems with X-Plus 3, we decided to stop selling this machine. At present, there is no specific notification of the re-launch and delivery time."
Sadly canceled my order :(
Oh man, I want a P1P but maybe I should wait for more clones to come out and put pressure on Bambulab
I would try the Qidi the support from Bambu is shocking..
@@paulbradley6271 Do you have experience with Qidi's support? I'm seriously debating cancelling my MK4 preorder upgrade kit for this.
But can it actually stand up to the advertising print speed of 600mm/s? I saw you were printing about 220mm/s which is quite impressive. How would you compare this printer or the Qidi tech x-max 3 priced at $1,099 to let's say Voron 2.4re or Troodon 2.4?We would love a Troodon 2.0 review and see if it can even come close to the boasted 500mm/s print speeds!
I'm planning to start producing fairly large ASA parts later this year. These Qidi machines are really tempting. I was eying off the ifast, but it's so expensive. I don't need a 5k commercial machine, but likely need more heat than you get in an X1C etc. Hopefully they release something with dual extruders and this new speed tech at a more approachable price soon. If bambu added active heating, that would be a deal breaker. I am quite interested in the prusa xl, but it's not even enclosed.
I bought one, it couldn't print ABS or ASA without clogging. if you only want to print PLA and don't need a heated chamber it's not bad, but if you want to do something serious with it, buy something else. I bought one. It was fully refunded.
@@GreybushGamer And mine prints ABS/ASA/flexibles/and other high end filaments with zero problems. And the chamber temp get's up to 55c which works fine. Only 1 clog in 6 months. I guess mine was from the first batch maybe the QC has dropped as the orders piled in.
@@Kman31ca really? you run 55 degree chamber temps? have you modded your machine at all?
@@GreybushGamer No, that's what the temp gets too in my X1C when all closed up printing abs etc. And it's around 30c with the lid off printing PLA.
@@Kman31ca we're not talking about the X1C, we're talking about the Qidi X-Plus 3. The X1C prints great. the X-Plus 3 will overheat with a chamber temp of 40C and shutdown the MCU in stock form. The MCU cooling is insufficient in stock form and the chamber heater WILL cause it to turn off... among other problems. Also, stock firmware won't let you set the active heater to 55 degrees, that's why I was asking. The X-Plus 3 is hot garbage when it comes to ABS/ASA/high-temp. Even modded, with a chamber heater at 50C, my hotend would clog endlessly. Go watch the clough42 review of the machine. It's not worth the money.
Great job, you two. I always checkout your new 3D printer videos whenever you post.
Great video, this machine sounds really interesting.
Do you know if QIDI plans on releasing an add-on for multi-material, like the AMS or MMU?
It’s only an assumption that it’s a possibility because it has the same filament cutter as the bambu lab
Great video as always Enjoy your outakes .Is it cold their ?
Thanks for this video, I would love to see the QIDI PLUS4 reviewed
I bought this printer blind having reviewed their older ones. I think it’s a good printer for beginners. Can’t wait till mine turns up.
It would be great if you share your thoughts after using it.
I love your that your content is very thorough and the fact that you test across the board on competing printers. This model has a very similar construction (albeit smaller) to the X-Max. There's another reviewer that Experienced 'movement' in the Z axis Via Heat Expansion of .5mm after the initial probing and during the printing process. Is this something you can look into? Or noticed through your usage with the heated chamber?
I've switched to using an inductive sensor for Z homing, which provides better accuracy for the first layer. To do this, you can edit the printer.cfg file in Klipper. By default, the machine uses the Z-limit switch at the bottom and travels all the way down and back up for homing, which is not ideal. However, this is a simple fix and shouldn't have anything to do with the heated chamber.
@@AuroraTech That great to know! I'll try to get an inductive sensor as well for the X-max I have preordered. But I believe this issue had more to do with the z-axis screws being mounted to the thin base panel of the chamber, without a solid anchor to the framework. So naturally as the chamber heated up the plastic panel "lifted" the z-axis and the build platform .5mm mid-print. Are you able to place a dial indicator on the build plate and heat the chamber just to see if it moves?
Thank you Aurora. Will you build Vz-bot AWD and show us comparison?
Can you compare this to the X-Max 3 and bambu x1 carbon for quality of prints, material handling and easy of use?
Good morning! After a few weeks, what happens with VOCs and fine particles? They don't disappear... Qidi has a filter or not? Where are these things going? Should we put a closed enclosure over... this closed printer!?
Interesting printer.
Great video as always.
Good points.
Thanks for sharing your expirence with all of us 👍 😀
You're a smart kiddo and the information is fantastic, keep up the good work
Great video! What is the noise level? Thanks.
loved the bloopers!
If the x-plus 3 has the cutter for the filament in the print head, where could the discharge of the filament take place for a possible multifilament system? if it doesn't have some sort of chute, any multifilament system would require the use of purge towers.
The bambulab printers have been designed better and an example is the multiple functionality of the filament chute, which is used both for multi-color printers (allowing also to increase the usable space on the print bed by removing the purge tower) and all start of each print to clean the nozzle.
The x-plus 3 has its concrete advantages but always lacks the attention to detail that would give it a feeling of a premium product.
Thank you for the great review! Being new, and I mean new car smell new, to 3D printing I took a leap of faith purchasing this unit as my first printer. Your review made me feel a whole lot better about my choice. So thank you! One question: when you printed with ABS, were the fumes well contained? This one has no carbon filter. Again, thank you!
Good morning! After a few weeks, what happens to your printer's VOCs and fine particles? They don't disappear... Qidi has a filter or not? Where are these things going?
Great review as always, any plans to test the SV06 plus?
Nice machine. I’d think about buying it. Did you manage to catch your escaped words at the end? 😆👍
I ordered this machine last week. Cant wait for it to arrive.
Honest review, thanks. Based on this review, pros and cons are obvious. Thanks again for honest footage
Will you put the X1C againt the X-Max 3 please?
Very interesting, I do like the fact that it uses klipper over a completely custom option. That should allow you to use other hotends and be less at the mercy of the company. I really like the fact that it includes the dry box and the second hotend stock athough as you said it would be nice if it had the fan to make it a lot faster to swap. Does it use standard V6 nozzles or use a volcano or a MK10 like the old version did or is it a single piece that all needs to be replaced, I couldn't really tell and they had no replacement parts available yet.
Assuming as looking at the website doesn't give the info, it comes with a 7mm wrench which would line up with V6. Standard or volcano length is still in the air.
@@ScuffedEngineer The difference is that the MK10 nozzles they use for the other printers still use a 7mm wrench but are different threads than the standard V6 nozzles. The MK10 nozzle are really uncommon common so you can't get things like a volcano or CHT nozzle in them.
That said I honestly don't think a MK10 nozzle would even work with that kind of flow rate so I doubt that is what it uses.
It uses a nozzle that is a hair shorter than the volcano. Same threads and style though.
Is this for the first X-Plus 3 or the new revised version?
Did you need to re-adjust the z axis offset between different filaments? You can see on your purge lines on each print, some are squished ribbon and some are lifting from the bed.
I received this machine a while ago, and the firmware was not updated. Initially, it was using the optical limit switch at the bottom for Z homing, which was a bad idea. As a result, I had to adjust the Z offset occasionally. However, after updating to the latest firmware that uses the inductive sensor for Z homing, I no longer need to make any adjustments.
Hi Aurora, I was thinking about getting the x-max, now I'm undecided with this new x-plus3, I like the sturdy structure of the x-max but I don't know if the latest products have the double-gear extrusion, of the x-plus3 I'm afraid the reliability linked to speed and accelerations, furthermore, in addition to the doubts about the carbon guides, the diameters of those of the z and y axes are not known. What do you advise? Thank you
Does the printer's enclosure help dampen printing sound? Is the overall sound quieter than the earlier models?
It sounds pretty quiet. The top cover is airtight, and it's around 50dB when fully enclosed.
Looking forward to your review of the Creality K1 if you can get one. Thanks!
Great review again :) Btw what are you doing with all these printed parts, i hope not dump them into bin :D
Please review the QIDI X-MAX 3 and compare it to the Bambu X1-C. I am trying to decide which one I want between the two.
Is it possible to run stock klipper or modify the screen interface?
Can you add pressure advance manually like a stock Klipper printer?
How is the noise of this? Louder than bamboo? Can You measure?
Is this printer open source? Can you build and flash Klipper yourself?
I'm very interested in buying a Bambu Lab or similar printer, but I don't want to get locked into any ecosystem. Imo there's a spot on the market for printers that offer this level of (pre-built) hardware quality but also the versatility and modularity of open source.
Bravo for saying their name correctly
I have had my X-Plus 3 for six weeks now, after giving away my older X Plus. I'm now wishing I had kept the older model. Issues with my X-Plus 3 are numerous, reliability and print quality being the top issues. Also, after homing the system and I jog the table to the top, the "ZERO" position is actually about 1.5mm from the nozzle tip. Sometimes, when I jog it to the top, the Z axis will shut off when it's within 10mm, which results in the table drifting to the bottom. Other issues, NO fail-safe sensors to stop a inaccurately homed table from crashing into the nozzle or into the frame at the bottom. To top it off, there is virtually no documentation beyond a very basic quick start guide. Finally, the older X Plus made noticeably better parts.
If all you are going to make are low resolution parts (over .2mm per layer) then you might be okay with this machine. I have YET to make a .16mm layer part that isn't a huge FAIL! And this is from PLA. I'm not even going to try it with ABS or something else. IMO, the firmware on this machine needs work. When selecting parts to make from their thumb drive, the user interface NEVER displays the part on the first try. I have to make multiple tries (as in over 5 tries) before the user interface will display the part.
Update: I HATE this piece of crap! My two year old X Plus was slower but at least it WORKED. I loaded their new firmware (per their suggestion), and it now causes the extruder assy to crash into the finished part, with the last crash resulting in the extruder cover being knocked off. There are only two possibilities, either their firmware is crap or their slicer is crap.
This system is beta at best and should have never been released for sale.
Would love to see a side-by-side with the X-CF Pro.
Didn't see much about materials or build quality? The Bambu X1 has that steel frame, metal panels and a generally solid and hefty build. The interior of shots of Qidi's look like a lot of injection-moulded plastic panels and parts. The Bambu gives an impression of premium quality, this gives the impression of a budget copy.
Sure, it's cheaper but you lose the really cool features (Lidar, Camera, and all the idiot-proofing error detection features) in exchange for a chamber heater. I think I'd rather pay the extra $400 to get the added features and the general build quality improvements.
More importantly, however, neither is actually a must-buy anymore. The X1 was amazingly alluring when first launched and stood head and shoulders above the competition. But in less than a year we've seen multiple other manufacturers leveraging these ideas to compete, and all the machines released (or releasing) have ended up looking like 1st gen, early-adopter models. At this point I need to wait another year to see where they take this next.
I want someone to combine all these cool features (lightweight hotends, carbon rods, lidar sensors, error detetction, multi-material) with dual extruders. The purge/prime wastage is the biggest flaw in the Bambu. Fix that and you'll be onto a winner.
Tha ks for the review, I am waiting for Creality K1, but...maybe I still get the P1P at the end.
k1 is going be 100 bucks cheaper than p1p and k1 max will be 100 bucks cheaper than x1
The sealed filament box must fit on the filament holding rod… right? Please say I am right!
Hello Aurora. Than you for another perfect review. May I ask, is there some kind of ventilation with Active Carbon filter, as X1-C have ? I cannot find it anywhere on the Qidi page.
Thank you for info.
there is no not one on this printer but the max version it has one
@@jamesharris9894 thank you for feedback.
I can tell you from experience the carbon filter on x1c doesn't do much of anything if u print with abs u need ventilation
@@jamesharris9894 that is good to know :) thank you
It's $799 until 30th May IF you have a local warehouse, if not it's $999
Your reviews are the best on this Plattform. You started strong and got stronger and stronger and better and better. Your awesome. Thank you for your work and effort! Anyway the hotend solutions on the Bambu and the Qidi are still not satisfying and seem strangely outdated. The best solution so far is the still the 3dgence one (Which is probably 10 years old, but still an awesome printer) and some of the flashforge printers. Changing the hotend should be a matter of seconds and not of screws. In addition a modern Printer should have closed loop steppers. I hope the next generation will adress both issues. Thank you again
Can i ask what is the best 3d printer for printing a Detailed TPU, Thank you
I always have the feeling I should have waited when I buy a new printer.
Not so much here but on some other features that could be implemented rather easily.
Just got the v400 and I feel like I am missing out ok load cell leveling of the Prusa MK4. Also hotswapable hotends would be a neat feature.
It's not so much about the printer itself (would not trade it for the slow Mk4) but about the missed potential.
Hi I ended up buying one of these QiDi XPLUS 3 printers. I don't see any way to preheat the machine, like other printers. I'm I just missing it ?Please HELP.
I'm brand new to 3d printing and need something to print ASA. Should I get the Qidi or save for Bambu Lab or Prusa mk4? The other option was to mod an Egeloo Neptune 3 plus with an all metal hot-end and use a grow-tent to keep the internal temps up. It seems the Qidi may take a few attempts to get the settings right for a specific filament, but that's not the end of the world.
ASA requires and all metal hot and an encloser. It is a relative to abs and puts out the same toxic VoC’s.
Depends, I definately wouldn't go with a P1P or Mk4 because ASA needs an enclosure. That limits you to only the X1C and the Qidi. Even then I wouldn't print ASA outside of well ventilated area or ideally you have a way to vent the printer or an enclosure for it to outdoors.
qidi has heated chamber if u only run asa and abs the heated chamber be better than non heated
What is the fastest you have done a print to where The print Quality is almost perfect? Just asking it seems the faster your print it the more print quality is sacraficed
Are the carbon rods replacable unlike on the bambu where you can toss the printer if they die?
Wow, seeing some good 3d printers coming out lately. High speed(klipper/ input shaping/ bmbu labs), new index tech(j1), tool changer(xl). I hope the XL tool changer works well, haven't seen anyone with multi tool XL yet.
prusa said they wont ship multitool till may, they are still developing it.
@AuroraTech I bought a Qidi X-CF PRO last year for the high temp hot end (350c) so I could use high temp carbon fiber nylon filament to test print the hardware tools that I design. It was expensive but I liked that it was pretty much ready to use right out of the box because it came already assembled like the X-PLUS 3 in your video did.
After watching your review video on the QiDi X-PLUS 3, it seems like it is better than the X-CF PRO but for half the price, am I missing something?
Maybe you could do a QiDi X-PLUS 3 vs Qidi X-CF Pro comparison video so people wont over pay for a so called "carbon fiber printer" when basically any printer with a hardened, high temp nozzle will work just fine.
No, you didn't miss anything. The new Klipper series is better than the old QiDi, thanks to BambuLab. It has changed the market and now everybody is trying to catch up. From what I can tell, the solid aluminum heated bed in the old QiDi has been replaced with a standard PCB type heated bed commonly used on other budget printers. Apart from that, yes, the X-PLUS 3 is both cheaper and better than the X-CF.
Thank you, I really like your Videos. But how does the pintquality compare to the X1?
Pretty much the same!
@@paulbradley6271 thank''s for your Feedback.
the x plus doesn't have lidar but max does and has a heated camber which the x1 doesn't
Seems like every company was in a race to get their X1C clone on the market, and QiDi made some sacrifices to be the first. I'm glad Bambu shook up the market so much like we all hoped, looking forward to seeing every other companies attempt to compete with the X1. Hopefully we get some actual innovation though, rather than just 1:1 clones like the QiBi.
Its not like corexy printers are something new, lots of them were made long before bambulabs. They have some new things like that scanning thing , but rest is clone of other printers
@@majstor76 who was making complete prebuilt corexy before BL? i've built 4 printers. i don't need to build another one. i will never buy another kit.
@@TMS5100 oh noes, ive spent 15 minutes on "building" printer that i use for 5 years
@@majstor76 show me a corexy kit you can build in 15 minutes.
@@TMS5100 I can show you assembled corexy like Flying Bear Ghost 6.
I would definitely be interested to know if they included sensors for input shaping and what not. Great video as always!
@3:50 literally says right there in the video.
@@TMS5100 thank you so much. I completely missed it.
Hi, is it possible for you to measure the height of the print with/without the top cover please?
Good thing they waited this long for Stratasis patents on heated build chambers to expire before attempted this. Now to see how the incumbent will react.
Can you try and get the new kingroon KP3S pro v2 pro with klipper just announced for test. Really interested in it.
ok cool, but with the bambu lab machines it wasn't mentioned how they are locked down on both hardware and software, and that you cannot quite mod it like an ender 3 v2 because it has proprietary connections and parts .
how about this one? is it open source? or are you stuck with them for hardware and software?
it's such a critical point as i want absolutely nothing to do with the company after buying their printer and perhaps buy spare parts directly from them or contact for warranty, i absolutely don't want to rely on them for slicing software or firmware, i DEFINITELY don't want repair that requires me to send back the entire bloody machine while missing it for weeks on end and be able to mod it without proprietary parts that may not be sold anymore in a few years from purchase.
This is exactly why I ordered the X-Plus 3. I had an X1CC for a while but the closed ecosystem really turned me off being an enthusiast. This one should be pretty open considering they use klipper. Hopefully it gains enough traction in the community as to get lots of support.
as long as they make it few years which they will. u will have no problem the clone parts are already flooding the market just matter of time
The X-plus 2 began silently shipping to people around Nov. If they're releasing a third itineration, then I want a replacement of the 3rd gen. My xplus2 has had so many things replaced or found to be manufactured out of spec. The Y access rails were not even parallel.
I didn't get the x-max because of the improvements the xplus2 had, then in Jan silently released the xmax2. I would have spent the extra money with them if they were better at marketing..
How loud is this compared to the Bambu printers? Users of those say it's like a jet engine compared to quiet 3D printers. How is the vibration? The Bambu looks like an angry cat trying to get out of a pet crate sometimes.
Seems like a great competitor to the X1 at a better price. I need multi-material for my business though, so I will have to stick with Bambu till QiDi comes out with their own mutli-material solution.
ERCF or trad rack work with klipper.
11:43 you didn't mention the awful z wobble visible on the spool holder 😬