The bottom line is that Tyra was pissed that Tiffany didn't react the way she wanted her too. I didn't at all see that Tiffany wasn't upset, but she was trying to keep a brave face and comfort the girls.
My mom has yelled at me to make me understand. And, remember, she thanked Tyra. Ppl are cut from different cloths. So understand that. When my mom yelled (and I NEVER heard her curse, ever), it was because of frustration and plea. Tiffany understood her plight later, but it is unfortunate that it was on TV.
She snapped because Tiffany didn’t grovel, Tyra didn’t get the satisfaction of her tears. I respond the same way Tiffany does when I’m let down more of a pick me up for my mood or protect myself not to be defeatist. Ugh
Stefan Exactly. I felt the same way. Personally I think Tyra’s reaction was way, WAY over the top. But of course we weren’t there, we didn’t see the entire thing, it was edited, blah blah blah....
@@JerseyGurl4Life from what Tiffany said in the BuzzFeed article it was even worse. Tyra supposedly screamed, "Go back home and sleep with your baby on the mattress on the floor!"
Tee Murrs it’s disgusting how low Tyra Banks will stoop to get ratings on her Jaded irrelevant show . Blackface, public humiliation and Bullying are not acceptable in 2020
Don't care what anyone says these two made antm what it was with Nigel Also would love seeing The Jay's on drag race as judges for walking and stylings
Love that the Jays are doing this! About Tyra, I do think she really wanted the black models to succeed because of severe underrepresentation until like the 2010s. You can criticize her method of doing so and 'tough love' methods for sure, but remember this is reality TV and its main goal is not to make people feel good, it's for entertainment. And try to keep in mind that 2005 really was a different time.
Not being salty at all,just wondering how forcing a black girl to kiss a racist is helpful,instead of standing up for her and firing the guy.Please make that make sense even in the very olden days of 2005?
@@janepatrick97 idk but I feel like Tyra made her do that shoot for she can understand that in the industry they don't care what beef your having with the person for example in many movies a lot of costars did not like eachother, hated eachother but they still did what they had to do because at the end of the day it's a job and they understood that producers doesn't care if they don't like eachother they hired you for it now you have to give them what they wanted. Tyras always talking about how the industry is going to send obstacles and how you have to March through them, that was probably one of them.
Yeah but that’s the thing, tough love doesn’t work for a lot of people. Human beings are generally sensitive creatures, we hear criticisms much louder than praises, and sometimes you need to focus on building them up, instead of toughening them up. Furthermore, cruelty in entertainment is really beginning to fail bc of the changing social consciousness and as a result, people will look back on what they once saw as OK and talk about how it isn’t OK now. That’s just how society works. Things change and we talk about it.
@@hkazu63 but that’s the thing if you can’t face criticism you can’t be a model. Models are like the #1 people who face criticism a lot of the girls on antm understood that which is why when they got criticism they took it without crying because they understood what they were trying to do. They were trying to introduce them to the real fashion world for when they become models they don’t think everyone’s going to play nice. And the worlds changing because everyone for some odd reason everyone’s becoming insecure whereas back then a lot of people were more tough skin and you can shoot anything at them and they wouldn’t break.
Khaell Saint Louis they never said models shouldn’t take criticism. they said that the show was overboard and crossed into very very unprofessional lines; like trying to gaslight a black woman about her racist encounters. THAT is not something that was excusable then or now so if you can’t understand that you’re probably too far up Tyra’s ass and may need to get out for some air.
How they described the fashion industry is so TRUE!!! I've worked on multiple fashion shows and I could count on my fingers the number of black models (black models not mixed) "plus sized" or just women with regular bodies and short models. The fashion industry has made tiny steps but unfortunately they are only using tokens. Fenty is like the exception right now. But the fashion industry has not changed it's still the same. Commercial is different tho
@@EverythingKash his not black, his mixed, I am a South African, he is the same race as me, we are referred to as "coloured"in South africa, it's an actual race... Because of our country's history the government doesn't regard us as black because we are too racially diverse as you can see from his phenotype... We all look that way here, there is a strict variation between black, white, and coloured in Africa, if he had too call himself black south Africa they would laugh in his face, he will claim black in America too fit in, and the world doesn't really know there are different types of races in Africa.
Rencia Mantis it’s not an actual black honey it was made due to the racism in the country itself , white South Africans ARE NOT AFRICANS , they’re colonisers that stayed
Teyona deserves to win Cycle 12 because she was more consistent and Allison had up and down performances through the first half of the season. See the Call-Out Order Table on Wikipedia and you’ll see.
Wait this is actually the best thing ever how are more people not freaking out about this?!?!? So much tea but also both jays are such lovely people ahhh im living for this
I have missed these two so much. It was something about watching them on ANTM that provided a example of being self disciplined in my life. Jay Manuel taught me to tap into what parts of my personality has been so affected negatively that I needed to work on. This came from an interview he did along time ago about his make up line that was coming out. It also helped me a great deal not to take it so personally when I encountered other people who personality I didnt quite understand or mesh with. Because you dont know their story. Ms. Jay just everytime I watched him coach the contestants added to my own guidance in finding my walk in life(just being true to self) and once I found it be confident in it, no matter what nobody had to say because thats what will bring me success in every area of my life. Im so thankful their back on the scene. They were very pivotal in my younger years. Big part of why I sustained a healthy self esteem growing up.
34:55 whoaaaa. He backed up Tiffany’s claims about what was said and cut out. Tyra said some pretty vile things. To the point of saying “go back to sleep on your mattress on the floor with your baby”
She probably did say that but I don’t think it was in the context being made- I think it was probably more Tyra was tryna say or rather ask “is that what you want to happen to you? Is that the sum of your dreams bcuz you’re not taking this seriously”
Mr. Jay, I just have to point out that the blue you're wearing is so very much your color. It's got your skin glowing like you just used the best sheet mask of your life, tbh. Also, I'm really glad to hear that you two and Tyra got to visit Mandela's cell and experience such a moving moment as well. Keenyah remains one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life, no amount of bread could change that imo
The thing is she put big model and trans model and black models in their but didn't stand up for them when the rest of the models was racist and shaming them
Hey Ms J ! Really miss seeing you on ANTM, I Just turned 56, may 11th,and I'm still trying to learn your marvelous walk, yours is 100%,I'm about 58% miss you wish you could come back 1 love
While I love both, I trust Ms. Jay’s commentary most, mainly because he seems to have a more unbiased perspective. Mr. Jay seems to have some unresolved issues from the show. But he benefited greatly from the show (Canada’s Next Top Model host) and I wanna get deep into that.
All this time I assumed Jay was Hispanic, shocked to discover that he’s mixed race! How interesting and illustrative of how much race is a made up concept and mutable.
I assumed he was hispanic too. He looks like every gay hispanic that sells make up at the mall. When we say Hispanic we all know it means brown people regardless of being an ethnicity.
I remember Brittany Brower mentioning another thing Tyra said to Tiffany. It was something among the lines of "every cycle there's a girl where i feel like i've made a mistake, and this time it was you."
I think it’s been talked about a lot that Tyra went ridiculously, unnecessarily hard against her. I honestly believe Brittany if she said that (bc I’ve personally not heard it before).
@@hkazu63 Brittany said it on a special episode. It was an episode talking about behind the scenes in detail. They talked about how cycle 1 judging room was thrown together in 1 hour because someone musunderstood the concept of "judging room" and put just a plain white desk and a few chairs in an empty room with bare walls. So they literally had to build the judging room minutes before the girls walked in. They also spoke about the drama that cycle 3 girls went through when they travelled to Tokyo - the same thing Jay talks about in his chat on season 3. The episode was uploaded here on YT, but it got taken down a long time ago. I am pissed because i never found it again. It was a very cool behind-the-scenes special.
I never understood the hate Tiffany got... not even back then. It seemed weird how so many people tried to defend Tyra even then. Tiffany shouldn't have to cry and people cope with pain in different ways. I felt it was unrealistic to expect a girl like Tiffany to break down considering her background and the serious things she went through. Tyras reaction to me felt as if they only sent Tiffany out to get a big reaction out of her for more views. They expected her to cry and act loud and what not and were disappointed to see that she was at peace with the decision and smiling
I have a question. After the double elimination, the cast count went from 9 girls to 7 girls. That meant the next photoshoot for 7 girls was the 7 deadly sins. If only one girl had been eliminated, what photoshoot was scheduled next after the “pillow fight” one?
I needed this👏🏼love and miss the Jay's❤️ This cycle was soooooo iconic.....the walking on water runway....the controversial photo shoots..... Tiffany.... Tyra's meltdown...🤗
You know how they say that things that aren’t spoken are usually what is said the loudest. Please pay attention to Miss Jay’s reactions and little tid bits during this entire live.
I recently started a rewatch of ANTM so this is perfect timing!! Love it!! Would you both consider filming it on RUclips (then promoting on your Instagram) with clip inserts of who you’re talking about or showing what you’re referencing? Maybe that defeats the purpose of your chats but it would be cool to have a visual sometimes. Thanks for putting out this content! It’s what everyone wants with reality TV! ♥️
Gah.. I’ve missed the Jays so much! I was so upset when they weren’t on the show anymore..but I totally understand. Love hearing the 20/20 hindsight perspective. I’ll definitely be checking out the rest of their videos together
I honestly cannot believe this is happening! You guys are so lovely, funny, effortless and the best thing ever is that you’re unedited ❤️ keep these going - I LIVE for the tea ☕️
Skipped right over Berini sexual harassing the models. His hand was up Niaimi’s skirt to the point she was pushing it down & he was all over Kenya so much so he was moaning in her ear but Mr. Jay never stopped anything made them keep going. Niaimi & Jay & all the judges shifted blame Kenya for his actions
I saw an interview with her, and she was really upset. She said she told everyone, including Jay, and they all did nothing. I think he is lying that he didn’t know until later.
Honestly it pissed me off that they chose Brandi over the one girl at auditions that had a baby and was sleeping at homeless shelters and cried because she couldn’t feed her child sometimes. It was a devastating story. Not that they should of selected her because of her story but because I thought she had a really strong look. Once I saw how ungrateful Brandi acted, I was like wow that’s f’d up. There was no excuse for that attitude.
Jay you are truly beautiful. You don’t age! You’re giving me “top” vibes. I’m into it. I always thought you were Hispanic but come to find out you’re from South Africa... yaaassss cultured! Come thru. But yea gorgeous!
I can't believe how gorgeous both the Jays still look! Literal human perfection. I was expecting more Janice tea in this week's chat. It was teased so heavily that there was going to be a big discussion. Having said that, this season there was so much drama to cover. But my thirst is not quenched.
I so love you guys-The Jays!!! 🔥🥰 ANTM was my show...preferably the earlier seasons 1-6, ending with Nik’s season. You guys are hilarious ❤️ Thanks for all the behind the scene 💎 💎💎s
Thank you Jay for addressing the BS on that's been said on social media about Tyra. The mainstream audiences (or normies as the otaku community calls them) don't understand how the fashion industry works. The other thing the mainstream audiences seem to forget (and it has been mentioned on ANTM) is fashion like any form of art is about pushing the envelope/boundaries
Im sorry but since the time the two of you; Ms. Jay and Mr. Jay left the show (Antm 19-onwards), I felt like there's something missing in terms of the Heart and the Values for the show. When I watched the two of you, I could feel how sincere you were when giving pieces of advice to the girls. I loved how the two of you were very passionate and sincere about how you wanted to bring out the best from the girls. With that said, my fave ANTM cycles are from ANTM 1-18. :-)
About the final result between Naima and Kahlen, let me say: I’ve decided to put the photos call-order on Excel and score the best with 14 points (since there were 14 models) and the worst with 1 point; next weeks, the lowest score was based on a number of models (7 models: best photo scores 14 points and worst scores 8 points). Kahlen and Naima reached the finals almost tied based on my method, so both deserved Top 2 and was hard to decide between them. Kahlen is my ultimate favorite from 24 cycles, but Naima was also a winner material. Cycle 4 wasn’t something like Cycle 10 (Anya with 5 first call-out photos and no bottoms and Whitney with 1 best photo and 5 bottoms).
I’m sorry but they did keenyah so dirty. Especially when they made her keep shooting with that guy that was moaning and grinding on her. She didn’t need to go through that
What Jay is avoiding to say is, i did everything to keep my job and not be a problem, even tho things are fucked up, I love MISS Jay for sayin, dont fuck with my shit i wont fuck with your shit, now that was real!!!!!
What the 2 Jays have said is quite true,even tyra has been victimize these circumstances thats the reason why she stops modeling and proceeded these show...U can tell that they dont held a grudges over tyra specially when they said that " it may move forward a little bit but its still the same industry, its the same fashion industry!"
That moment was real and watching ive been there. as a dancer, we see passion from coaches or moms. Honestly it made me much more stronger and confident.
Tyra wasn't concerned with pushing boundaries, although I'm sure that's what she told herself in order to sleep at night. Tyra in 2004 was the equivalent of Trisha Paytas today. She did whatever she thought would bring eyes to her show and put money in her pocket.
I cannot believe how great Ms. Jay looks. He looks the EXACT same as he did 15-16 years ago. They both are great.
But that nose job is terrible, he looked way better before
Black don’t crack baby! 😌👏♥️
Not the mentions he’s in his SIXTIES!!
@@nicolemeneses3323 Ehm i think you are talking about Jay Manuel? not J alexander.
I’m saying they both look GREAT!
Both of the Jays have aged like fine wine 🔥
Especially Mr Jay 😍
They didnt age at all
What are you saying!? They haven't aged a day
@@gregap8282 I think Mr. Jay look much more fine than he did in the antm days, but maybe that's the beard 😂
They're still single though. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The bottom line is that Tyra was pissed that Tiffany didn't react the way she wanted her too. I didn't at all see that Tiffany wasn't upset, but she was trying to keep a brave face and comfort the girls.
My mom has yelled at me to make me understand. And, remember, she thanked Tyra. Ppl are cut from different cloths. So understand that. When my mom yelled (and I NEVER heard her curse, ever), it was because of frustration and plea. Tiffany understood her plight later, but it is unfortunate that it was on TV.
She snapped because Tiffany didn’t grovel, Tyra didn’t get the satisfaction of her tears. I respond the same way Tiffany does when I’m let down more of a pick me up for my mood or protect myself not to be defeatist. Ugh
Stefan Exactly. I felt the same way. Personally I think Tyra’s reaction was way, WAY over the top. But of course we weren’t there, we didn’t see the entire thing, it was edited, blah blah blah....
@@JerseyGurl4Life from what Tiffany said in the BuzzFeed article it was even worse. Tyra supposedly screamed, "Go back home and sleep with your baby on the mattress on the floor!"
@@nikicollins5809 100%
Can you two please start your own modeling show and get Nigel . You two made the ANTM
Let's tryout lol
Love this
Expect a lawsuit from Tyra...she went to Harvard, donchaknow.
aaaand we need janice in there as well
Thank you next she still went and received her diploma but nice try!
As a black woman putting white models in black face is not ground breaking or pushing boundaries.
Nope! Not at all sis!
*Who Else* did that for *US* Tho?? 🤔🤔
They are all going to defend that to the grave
@@xoxoxosaidie2765 i didn't see them defending that idea..because it wasn't theirs...Mr. Jay even said this particular shoot made him uncomfortable
Tee Murrs it’s disgusting how low Tyra Banks will stoop to get ratings on her Jaded irrelevant show . Blackface, public humiliation and Bullying are not acceptable in 2020
Don't care what anyone says these two made antm what it was with Nigel
Also would love seeing The Jay's on drag race as judges for walking and stylings
I would LOVE to see Miss Jay check those bitches on their walks and Mr. Jay checking them on their make up
I was surprised in the earlier seasons of drag race where there was more photoshoots or modelling esque episodes that they never made an appearance.
El Brooks and Mike Ruiz did all the time (was a common photographer on top model)
@@miaz4766 Oh cool, I forgot Mike Ruiz was on top model!
*cough* janice *cough*
Seeing you two has seriously made me feel good.
anyone remembers when Rebecca fainted, Tyra said "somebody call paramedics" and Nolé Maren added "call the police" haha
😂
I do remember this and bust out laughing
Love his heart. I still think about that to this day.
“How did that elephant 🐘 represent Keenyah?” Miss Jay- it was that bread 🥖 LMAOOOO
He wasn’t lying tho 🤣🤣🤣
Miss Jay with the 😎😎😎😎
I felt bad for her. Just because her stomach wasn't concave she got so much flack. B. S.
Is that why he was okay with her being sexually harassed by that horrible male model?
It gives me anxiety when Mr Jay constantly interrupts Ms jay lol
He's trolling pretending to be Tyra every time he does that.
I feel like my favorite uncles came to visit me ❤❤❤
Kayla Howard agree
Yes!
My 2 gay uncles
And spilled tea all over the place 😂
Omg same yesss I love them
Ok so now the two biggest gay icons I had growing up in bohunk nowhere are dishing on one of my favorite shows? I’m so subscribed. Yaassss!
So Janice was right when she said Tyra didn't always pic the winners the sponcers did.
*sponsors
Yes. And I have had that argument many times. This is why Allison did not win. People can stop blaming Tyra.
Love that the Jays are doing this! About Tyra, I do think she really wanted the black models to succeed because of severe underrepresentation until like the 2010s. You can criticize her method of doing so and 'tough love' methods for sure, but remember this is reality TV and its main goal is not to make people feel good, it's for entertainment. And try to keep in mind that 2005 really was a different time.
Not being salty at all,just wondering how forcing a black girl to kiss a racist is helpful,instead of standing up for her and firing the guy.Please make that make sense even in the very olden days of 2005?
@@janepatrick97 idk but I feel like Tyra made her do that shoot for she can understand that in the industry they don't care what beef your having with the person for example in many movies a lot of costars did not like eachother, hated eachother but they still did what they had to do because at the end of the day it's a job and they understood that producers doesn't care if they don't like eachother they hired you for it now you have to give them what they wanted. Tyras always talking about how the industry is going to send obstacles and how you have to March through them, that was probably one of them.
Yeah but that’s the thing, tough love doesn’t work for a lot of people. Human beings are generally sensitive creatures, we hear criticisms much louder than praises, and sometimes you need to focus on building them up, instead of toughening them up. Furthermore, cruelty in entertainment is really beginning to fail bc of the changing social consciousness and as a result, people will look back on what they once saw as OK and talk about how it isn’t OK now. That’s just how society works. Things change and we talk about it.
@@hkazu63 but that’s the thing if you can’t face criticism you can’t be a model. Models are like the #1 people who face criticism a lot of the girls on antm understood that which is why when they got criticism they took it without crying because they understood what they were trying to do. They were trying to introduce them to the real fashion world for when they become models they don’t think everyone’s going to play nice. And the worlds changing because everyone for some odd reason everyone’s becoming insecure whereas back then a lot of people were more tough skin and you can shoot anything at them and they wouldn’t break.
Khaell Saint Louis they never said models shouldn’t take criticism. they said that the show was overboard and crossed into very very unprofessional lines; like trying to gaslight a black woman about her racist encounters. THAT is not something that was excusable then or now so if you can’t understand that you’re probably too far up Tyra’s ass and may need to get out for some air.
How they described the fashion industry is so TRUE!!! I've worked on multiple fashion shows and I could count on my fingers the number of black models (black models not mixed) "plus sized" or just women with regular bodies and short models. The fashion industry has made tiny steps but unfortunately they are only using tokens. Fenty is like the exception right now. But the fashion industry has not changed it's still the same. Commercial is different tho
Wow. I learned today that jay is black. I watched for 22 seasons and never knew that
I thought he was LatinX
@@EverythingKash his not black, his mixed, I am a South African, he is the same race as me, we are referred to as "coloured"in South africa, it's an actual race... Because of our country's history the government doesn't regard us as black because we are too racially diverse as you can see from his phenotype... We all look that way here, there is a strict variation between black, white, and coloured in Africa, if he had too call himself black south Africa they would laugh in his face, he will claim black in America too fit in, and the world doesn't really know there are different types of races in Africa.
Everything Kash latino isn’t a race it’s an ethnicity.
Rencia Mantis it’s not an actual black honey it was made due to the racism in the country itself , white South Africans ARE NOT AFRICANS , they’re colonisers that stayed
Everything Kash 😂😂😂😂
Chyle I can’t wait for Cycle 12 and All Stars because then they can talk about why Allison was robbed 2 times and Angelea-gate
Alison was COMPLETELY robbed in season 12. Can't wait to hear the 🍵.
Teyona deserves to win Cycle 12 because she was more consistent and Allison had up and down performances through the first half of the season. See the Call-Out Order Table on Wikipedia and you’ll see.
Allison is maybe the biggest AllStar from ANTM and as much as I like Lisa, Allison deserved that win
They probably will gloss over it like they do everything else they have been asked. Their answerz are still VERY PC and they spill VERY little T.
the all-star cycle was the trashiest of them all
Judge: you need to work on your presence
Rebeca: *faints*
Nole: call the police
Nigel Barker saying "I'm real" at 14:10...I screamed!!!
I seen that👀👏🏼🤗🤔🤣🤣🤣
My favorite handsome and messy man
In reference to Miss Jay, Nigel gone say “We could never understand you”😭😭😭😭
According to Michelle, Tyra also screamed at Tiffany, "I've never regretted casting a girl more than I have you!"
I love that I started binging old ANTM episodes like a month before this and all the drama popped off. A bitch is prepared 📝
Me too bitch! Lmao. Starting cycle 9 right neoww!
Wait this is actually the best thing ever how are more people not freaking out about this?!?!? So much tea but also both jays are such lovely people ahhh im living for this
This is the season with the TEA!!!
I have missed these two so much. It was something about watching them on ANTM that provided a example of being self disciplined in my life. Jay Manuel taught me to tap into what parts of my personality has been so affected negatively that I needed to work on. This came from an interview he did along time ago about his make up line that was coming out. It also helped me a great deal not to take it so personally when I encountered other people who personality I didnt quite understand or mesh with. Because you dont know their story. Ms. Jay just everytime I watched him coach the contestants added to my own guidance in finding my walk in life(just being true to self) and once I found it be confident in it, no matter what nobody had to say because thats what will bring me success in every area of my life. Im so thankful their back on the scene. They were very pivotal in my younger years. Big part of why I sustained a healthy self esteem growing up.
34:55 whoaaaa. He backed up Tiffany’s claims about what was said and cut out. Tyra said some pretty vile things. To the point of saying “go back to sleep on your mattress on the floor with your baby”
Those editors would have gotten a show cause me and Tyra would have been scrappin in there if said that to me.
Mtjproducer yeah easy to say behind your computer, youd be crying all the way home if Tyra said that to you.
She probably did say that but I don’t think it was in the context being made- I think it was probably more Tyra was tryna say or rather ask “is that what you want to happen to you? Is that the sum of your dreams bcuz you’re not taking this seriously”
@@Sardilz you act like tyra is all that lol who gives af who she is.
Mr. Jay, I just have to point out that the blue you're wearing is so very much your color. It's got your skin glowing like you just used the best sheet mask of your life, tbh.
Also, I'm really glad to hear that you two and Tyra got to visit Mandela's cell and experience such a moving moment as well.
Keenyah remains one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life, no amount of bread could change that imo
The thing is she put big model and trans model and black models in their but didn't stand up for them when the rest of the models was racist and shaming them
I love you both! I’m glad you guys decided to do this for us :) what a treat! thank you!!!
I KNOW y’all have money, you did NOT need *this* many ad’s 😂😂
Im saying!
Mr. and Miss Jay deserve another modeling competition, with them as hosts and judges.
Hey Ms J ! Really miss seeing you on ANTM, I Just turned 56, may 11th,and I'm still trying to learn your marvelous walk, yours is 100%,I'm about 58% miss you wish you could come back 1 love
While I love both, I trust Ms. Jay’s commentary most, mainly because he seems to have a more unbiased perspective. Mr. Jay seems to have some unresolved issues from the show. But he benefited greatly from the show (Canada’s Next Top Model host) and I wanna get deep into that.
I didn't know Mr Jay hosted top model
@@deejayfikes he hosted cycles 2 and 3 of canada's next top model. It was a great ntm version. Too bad they did not do more cycles of it
@@deejayfikes If you'd like to know Nigel Barker is still a judge on Hollands Next Top model, but i don't really like the show anymore.
I didn't know I needed this till now
All this time I assumed Jay was Hispanic, shocked to discover that he’s mixed race! How interesting and illustrative of how much race is a made up concept and mutable.
@Josephine Bournes Correct, it's an ethnicity. Doesn't change the fact that race is made up...
He still isn't black though 🌚
He’s a hottie I’ll sit on his face lol
I assumed he was hispanic too. He looks like every gay hispanic that sells make up at the mall. When we say Hispanic we all know it means brown people regardless of being an ethnicity.
@@SuggahBrown 💯
miss j the type of mentor figuring everyone wants like such sage advice all the time
I remember Brittany Brower mentioning another thing Tyra said to Tiffany. It was something among the lines of "every cycle there's a girl where i feel like i've made a mistake, and this time it was you."
I heard that it was worst...that Tyra told her now u can go back home with ur kid and sleep on the floor👀
@@danyielsays4621 that was another part. A lot was edited out, i believe.
I think it’s been talked about a lot that Tyra went ridiculously, unnecessarily hard against her. I honestly believe Brittany if she said that (bc I’ve personally not heard it before).
@@hkazu63 Brittany said it on a special episode. It was an episode talking about behind the scenes in detail. They talked about how cycle 1 judging room was thrown together in 1 hour because someone musunderstood the concept of "judging room" and put just a plain white desk and a few chairs in an empty room with bare walls. So they literally had to build the judging room minutes before the girls walked in.
They also spoke about the drama that cycle 3 girls went through when they travelled to Tokyo - the same thing Jay talks about in his chat on season 3.
The episode was uploaded here on YT, but it got taken down a long time ago. I am pissed because i never found it again. It was a very cool behind-the-scenes special.
I never understood the hate Tiffany got... not even back then. It seemed weird how so many people tried to defend Tyra even then. Tiffany shouldn't have to cry and people cope with pain in different ways. I felt it was unrealistic to expect a girl like Tiffany to break down considering her background and the serious things she went through. Tyras reaction to me felt as if they only sent Tiffany out to get a big reaction out of her for more views. They expected her to cry and act loud and what not and were disappointed to see that she was at peace with the decision and smiling
I have a question. After the double elimination, the cast count went from 9 girls to 7 girls. That meant the next photoshoot for 7 girls was the 7 deadly sins. If only one girl had been eliminated, what photoshoot was scheduled next after the “pillow fight” one?
Right I wondered that too.
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hmmm 🧐🧐🧐
Love where it begins around 24 mins how MissJ talks about her true professionalism. “I don’t wanna break bread withchu...”
Didn't Tiffany return when they did one of the All Star Shows?
25:10
I needed this👏🏼love and miss the Jay's❤️
This cycle was soooooo iconic.....the walking on water runway....the controversial photo shoots..... Tiffany.... Tyra's meltdown...🤗
You Jays are like the friends I didn't have in high school, when I was an awkward, ugly duckling, with more legs than I knew what to do with 💘
You know how they say that things that aren’t spoken are usually what is said the loudest. Please pay attention to Miss Jay’s reactions and little tid bits during this entire live.
I recently started a rewatch of ANTM so this is perfect timing!! Love it!! Would you both consider filming it on RUclips (then promoting on your Instagram) with clip inserts of who you’re talking about or showing what you’re referencing? Maybe that defeats the purpose of your chats but it would be cool to have a visual sometimes. Thanks for putting out this content! It’s what everyone wants with reality TV! ♥️
Same!
YES please do youtube podcasts
I'd love that. Wish they could do reaction type videos or something with clips.
You forgot to talk about BRANDY 😁
Gah.. I’ve missed the Jays so much! I was so upset when they weren’t on the show anymore..but I totally understand. Love hearing the 20/20 hindsight perspective. I’ll definitely be checking out the rest of their videos together
I honestly cannot believe this is happening! You guys are so lovely, funny, effortless and the best thing ever is that you’re unedited ❤️ keep these going - I LIVE for the tea ☕️
I've always wanted what Mr. Jay's background was and never knew he was South African. It's amazing that he (and Ms. Jay) look the exact same.
Jay & Jay. I missed you guys..
Wow, didn't answer questions, skirted issues, ignored questions...what is the point of tea if none is spilled?
Will always be a fan of the duo! ANTM was never the same without them
Yass I’m so excited about this!!
Let’s take this thing all the way back when ANTM was THEE show....let’s school the gurlz!
I really need to know what happened btw my dear Ms Jay and Nigel Barker, noted fashion photographer.
46:14 "Elephant ... Keenyah" I LOST IT.
I honestly came back every episode of ANTM for the Jay's and Nigel and even Janice. You guys were the best.
Miss J KILLED it with the lighting bay bay! That's the epitome of giving face right there!
how have I JUST found out about this channel?????? I love you guys, you can tell you guys are really close.
I can't believe they didn't talk about flesh eating bacteria drama 🤣🤣
Skipped right over Berini sexual harassing the models. His hand was up Niaimi’s skirt to the point she was pushing it down & he was all over Kenya so much so he was moaning in her ear but Mr. Jay never stopped anything made them keep going. Niaimi & Jay & all the judges shifted blame Kenya for his actions
ugh cycle 4 is my all time favorite season. it had the best photo shoots and I loooooved Naima, Kahlen, and Brittany.
They didn't talk about Naima enough, She was one of my favorite winners. Loved her mohawk.
Makes me so upset how dismissive they were about keenyah!
why wouldnt you be dismissive about keenyah...?
Out of context reality tv edit...yea I’m gonna be dismissive also.
I saw an interview with her, and she was really upset. She said she told everyone, including Jay, and they all did nothing. I think he is lying that he didn’t know until later.
Loving all of these. Again, so glad you both are doing this.
Cycle 4 truly was the peak of Reality TV shows. It really set the tone for drama for reality shows after that!
They looks so good and rested 😭💗
Diet and Quarantine!!! Lol I’m sure you look different too, I feel like I backslided 😩
Honestly it pissed me off that they chose Brandi over the one girl at auditions that had a baby and was sleeping at homeless shelters and cried because she couldn’t feed her child sometimes. It was a devastating story. Not that they should of selected her because of her story but because I thought she had a really strong look.
Once I saw how ungrateful Brandi acted, I was like wow that’s f’d up. There was no excuse for that attitude.
I didn’t know Jay was American of South African decent.
David Maine I presumed he was Latino but his biologal father was from SA but hut he was adopted and grew up in Canada (according to Wiki anyhow)
Peter Martin well Latino isn’t a race so there that. Most who are Latino are racially mixed
Cordel White , s,
yes I can see your point , thanks Cordel
I just heard them making excuses. “I wasn’t there” “That wasn’t my decision” just admit it was a different time and you recognise past mistakes
Yea I felt like they were trying to be careful with their word choice given the time we are in with all these "social justice warriors" lol
Jay you are truly beautiful. You don’t age! You’re giving me “top” vibes. I’m into it. I always thought you were Hispanic but come to find out you’re from South Africa... yaaassss cultured! Come thru. But yea gorgeous!
I can't believe how gorgeous both the Jays still look! Literal human perfection. I was expecting more Janice tea in this week's chat. It was teased so heavily that there was going to be a big discussion. Having said that, this season there was so much drama to cover. But my thirst is not quenched.
I LOVE the two of you!!! Y'all give me life!!!❤️
Why are there SO many freaking ads? There’s one every 2-3 minutes!
26:11 have yall ever hooked up? 😂
I can't believe Miss Jay is 62!! He looks much younger
62?! My jaw literally dropped
I guess the saying black don't crack is true🤔
Whattttt!???? I can’t believe that! Ugh beautiful skin ❤️
I thought you were joking, like you were exaggerating just to say that he looks young... But he really is 62!
Thank youuuuu for making this channel, love you both ❤️
OMG I CANT BELIEVE THESE BREAKDOWNS 😭😭 Thank you so much ❤💯👊🏽
Miss Jay, all the synchronized swimmers are going to come at you now.
I appreciate you uploading these and actually educating ignorant fans that are bored and need something to be offended by. Speak the truth Jays!
Wtf Ms Jay looking SO GOOD!!!! His skin is absolutely flawless
This is my ultimate favorite season. Thank you.
I so love you guys-The Jays!!! 🔥🥰 ANTM was my show...preferably the earlier seasons 1-6, ending with Nik’s season. You guys are hilarious ❤️ Thanks for all the behind the scene 💎 💎💎s
Thank you Jay for addressing the BS on that's been said on social media about Tyra. The mainstream audiences (or normies as the otaku community calls them) don't understand how the fashion industry works.
The other thing the mainstream audiences seem to forget (and it has been mentioned on ANTM) is fashion like any form of art is about pushing the envelope/boundaries
Im sorry but since the time the two of you; Ms. Jay and Mr. Jay left the show (Antm 19-onwards), I felt like there's something missing in terms of the Heart and the Values for the show. When I watched the two of you, I could feel how sincere you were when giving pieces of advice to the girls. I loved how the two of you were very passionate and sincere about how you wanted to bring out the best from the girls. With that said, my fave ANTM cycles are from ANTM 1-18. :-)
What he said between 17:19-18:00 was a very clever way of saying it without saying too much.
About the final result between Naima and Kahlen, let me say: I’ve decided to put the photos call-order on Excel and score the best with 14 points (since there were 14 models) and the worst with 1 point; next weeks, the lowest score was based on a number of models (7 models: best photo scores 14 points and worst scores 8 points). Kahlen and Naima reached the finals almost tied based on my method, so both deserved Top 2 and was hard to decide between them. Kahlen is my ultimate favorite from 24 cycles, but Naima was also a winner material. Cycle 4 wasn’t something like Cycle 10 (Anya with 5 first call-out photos and no bottoms and Whitney with 1 best photo and 5 bottoms).
I always liked Anya better
Someone should get Jay to talk about Canada's Next Top Model next!
Still can’t get over Kahlen not winning this cycle. 😁😁😁
Ella era mi favorita. Cuando se da la vuelta y llora en la esquina 😭😭😭😭
Naima was so lovely though. Kahlen was great but I get why she lost.
They were both amazing tho!! I don’t know how they were able to choose
Nikki Gagliano Naima's look is 100x more interetesting. Also Naima is 5'10.
I’m sorry but they did keenyah so dirty. Especially when they made her keep shooting with that guy that was moaning and grinding on her. She didn’t need to go through that
With the makeovers, they could have walked a way. THEY HAD A CHOICE.
Not loving the laughter while discussing the male model who was behaving in a wildly inappropriate and potentially sexually harassing manner.
Agreed. I was thinking the same thing.
For me it got boring after Tiffany left. The problem with her was that she kept feeling inadequate. That is not an easy thing to get over.
Mr. Jay did not create these shoots this season. Fans submitted ideas for this season via a contest.
All fake sweety
What Jay is avoiding to say is, i did everything to keep my job and not be a problem, even tho things are fucked up, I love MISS Jay for sayin, dont fuck with my shit i wont fuck with your shit, now that was real!!!!!
What the 2 Jays have said is quite true,even tyra has been victimize these circumstances thats the reason why she stops modeling and proceeded these show...U can tell that they dont held a grudges over tyra specially when they said that " it may move forward a little bit but its still the same industry, its the same fashion industry!"
That moment was real and watching ive been there. as a dancer, we see passion from coaches or moms. Honestly it made me much more stronger and confident.
Ms Jay “Fans, that side of me is normal. I will fuck you up.” 😂😂😂😂😂
17:08 - WHEN YOU GOT THAT ONE FRIEND WHO IS YOUR RIDE OR DIE BUT NEED TO HAVE THEM STAND DOWN BECAUSE THEY THAT HIGH STRUNG!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Is she feeding you answers by text?" Bahaha
Am I the only one that noticed Keenyah had gotten long hair once they were in South Africa?
It definately changed
i love u guys!! i watching since i was 15 years old
Mr. and Mrs. Jay both have aged so good. Mr. Jay skin is so flawless I had the biggest crush on him for years.
Tyra wasn't concerned with pushing boundaries, although I'm sure that's what she told herself in order to sleep at night. Tyra in 2004 was the equivalent of Trisha Paytas today. She did whatever she thought would bring eyes to her show and put money in her pocket.