you just gotta be smart, the wrestlers themselves are pretty good at continuing the kayfabe(drew is the goat). Also to be smart to separate the character and the person bc some peeps are def different lol.
No one hates wrestling more than wrestling fans. There is so much wrestling to watch. WWE, AEW, TNA, NJPW, Stardom, Progress, TJPW, and countless independent promotions that it makes zero sense to tell someone they are wrong for not watching the same promotion as someone else. Watch what you want and don't say someone is wrong about what they watch.
If you don't like WWE, then don't watch WWE. If you don't like AEW, then don't watch AEW. If you don't like Simon Miller, first of all what is wrong with you? Do you also hate Santa Claus? And second of all, then don't watch Simon Miller. Sure, some things need to be called out like for example Cody giving away his Wrestlemania main event to The Rock, but there is a constructive way of bringing forth your criticism and going on all social media platforms you can find and yell about how WWE sucks and everyone who enjoys it sucks is NOT the way to go about it
Absolutely. As a musician, I was gawking at this ad for a chorus pedal. I click into the comments and someone left a political rant. Like, dude, did you click in the wrong place? They must've been spamming in hopes of debate or thumbs up. 🙄 People fuel every industry. I just can't make sense of using that passion to just willingly pee on every rug.
Guy: Gets in personal space and starts verbally abusing me Me: Back off Guy: You're such a bad person for wanting to be treated with respect, not wanting to be verbally abused is offensive to me!
You are genuinely one of the only wrestling community youtubers that I watch. You content is great and your positivity is infectious! Don't stop being a badass!!
@@bravo_steve my exact thoughts really. I only have a select few in WWE but not enough to keep me watching, so I’ll just catch it on the internet the next day from Simon
I really don’t understand this new generation. They have an endless amount of content at their fingertips, and they only watch things they don’t like so they can complain about it. Back in my day we had 10 channels and if we didn’t like anything that was on, we went outside. The time that it takes you to post a hateful comment you could’ve been using to learn a new skill or go to the gym and better yourself. Love your content, Simon. Stay positive.
Years ago I found I didn’t enjoy wrestling as much when I also watched youtube wrestling content because of the overwhelming negativity but lucky I found your channel. Over analyzing wrestling with negativity isn’t fun imo
I’m old enough to remember the Territory Days. I thought it was great because all the promotions were different from each other. WCCW, WWF, Mid South, Mid Atlantic, Portland, St Louis, Georgia Championship, Championship Wrestling from Florida… at any time I could watch no less than 7 different types of Pro Wrestling on a weekend. It was great. At the time, there might have been some tribalism, but not with any of my friends. We tried to watch it all.
There is too much negativity and tribalism among wrestling fans today. I'm a WWE fan through and through and I don't watch AEW but I genuinely hope AEW continues to thrive because more wrestling options is good for both fans and the wrestlers themselves. We have more options to pick from, they have more places to work, and we all win. Seriously, watch what you like, and let other people watch what they like. There's no reason to shame and insult fans who don't watch the same thing you do. Thank you Simon, for being such a positive light in the wrestling community, and I hope you do get a chance to perform on a major stage like WWE or AEW some day!
Simon, just wanna say you are one of the biggest reasons I got back into wrestling. Sucks you gotta deal with people not realizing end of the day you're just giving your positive pete but very much own opinions. Stay postive my friend, full send
The one that bugs me is the "You're the reason they aren't getting better" accusation. Unless they're paying me, it's not my job to help them improve. It's my job, as a fan, to have fun with their product and I have fun by focusing on the bits I like, not dwelling on the negatives
Loudly lying as if AEW is doing well (when they aren’t, by any stretch of the imagination) is absolutely one of the reasons they’re not getting better. I don’t watch AEW so I don’t care whether you keep them from succeeding or not, but don’t lie about it.
@@itamarstrauss5170uh yea. Tony has literally said look what Dave Meltzer said, heck he literally talks to Dave Meltzer, Dave has said that about the matches.
@@djsognal People cried for years about WWE being shit and the ONLY reason that changed is because Vince had to step down due to legal reasons so go tell that lie to someone else and let people enjoy what they want
I remember those days with WCW, ECW and WWF... Wrestlingfans consumed everything without saying: The other company is sh**, i just watch "put name in here", because it is the best. Reason? There was BARELY any internet available, no social media etc. GOOD OLD TIMES! Now everyone thinks their opinion is the right one and puts it out in the world and getting p*ssed if someone DARES to have another opinion. It is so tiring and dumb. If everyone had the same opinion and taste, we all would look the same, would wear the same clothes, the same house, the same car etc., just imagine, how boring that would be!?
Simon Miller is an international treasure. And if you needed any more proof, he actually brought back the word "buttmunch", which I hadn't heard since around 1993, and legit made me laugh out loud.
Tribalism sucks so much. People talk like they have personal stocks in these companies. If you're not enjoying a segment then change the channel for a bit
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 Some of it is bots though or very sad people who have nothing to do. I don't think many fans care about promotions they don't watch. And a lot of fans watch both
Like many people in general if you ask wrestling fans that don't like AEW or WWE why they don't like them most of the time they can't give a proper reason.
Your point on the well of negativity on most channels really hit home. The amount of purposefully inflammatory video titles and devolving into clickbait nonsense (especially within the wrestling sphere - but also video games as my other big passion on RUclips stuff) has been utterly maddening. I used to enjoy a lot of content on certain channels, but unless it’s an ups or downs I really can’t be bothered anymore. People revelling in being trolls just isn’t what I want to see when it comes to coverage of wrestling or gaming. People love to hate on posi vibes - but they certainly always cry like wee babies when it’s returned back on them.
We live in a timeline where wrestling is in almost every night of the week. All these companies bring something different to the table. Vince is gone and WWE is better than it’s been in a decade or more. AEW is giving us some of the best matches on television. Yet people will still focus on the negatives and attack people who don’t want to do that. Just because I don’t have JD from NY style meltdowns when I don’t like something doesn’t make me less of a fan or disingenuous. Keep on doing the thing that makes you YOU Simon and I’m glad you stood up for yourself man.
Simon isnt too positive, a lot of people are just wayy too negative. Like bro chill out its just wrestling yall dont gotta be so harsh about what you see, wrestling is the most unserious goofy thing in the world , some people dont gotta be as toxic as they are about it. That goes for pretty much all entertainment too, wrestling, movies tv shows, or videogames in the grand scheme of things its not that serious regardless its just entertainment to take your mind off of your job or school or whatever is going on in life, we can always fairly criticize it but when you take it a step above that to genuine hatred and toxicity thats when you took it too far
So odd that's what happens when people just wanna be content finding the positive side of things they love in their life and making the best out of things for themselves and others...People always gotta try to ruin it ± hence the reason to have to look at the positives despite all the negative surroundings. Big Up Simon. Theres not enough good examples in the wrestling world, but there are more because of you.
I love wrestling, but I Don't like wrestling fans. It sucks being part of the community and trying to enjoy it because people rain on your parade because they didn't enjoy it. I watch all of it. It doesn't matter the company to me but people really just want what they like to be the best
I've heard the name Simon Miller before. Somewhere... don't know where really. But never watched him before. This dude has the correct attitude. I wish more people on the internet were capable of using their brains in this way. I'll have to check out his videos again.
I actually prefer Simon's glass half full take on the current wrestling. I'm so sick of crybaby 40 year olds that won't let the attitude era go. Yes wrestling had some low points in the previous 10-15 years but every industry does. If you don't like it just don't watch it.
I was a teenager during the attitude era. Was a super fun time to be a fan but it wasn’t the best all end all of pro wrestling. I mean the wrestlers now a days are way better athletes today then back then. The matches are a hell of a lot better too. It like if you hate modern wrestling why are you even watching it?
@TonyFleury agreed I was a young kid and the attitude era was my into to wresting. It had tons of OMG moments but looking back, a lot of it didn't age well. It was Jerry Springer every single week. Agree with you if you don't like it don't watch it lol
You know what Simon, this speaks to how fans “interact” with sports across the globe. The fan thinks hurling insults and being vile is somehow “part of the show”. I have read tweets from individuals rationalizing this behavior, “they get paid millions of dollars” they can’t take it they should get out of the game. Yet none of these same people would tolerate that same behavior from someone to them at their job. I come to your content for YOU. You are entertaining. We don’t share the same views on pro wrestling, however, I think you’re great. That’s my two bits.
It's just as stupid as the "Playstation vs. Xbox vs. Nintendo vs. Computer" debate. Everything offers something different, why not just appreciate it?! WWE, Impact, AEW, NJPW, and every other promotion got their talents to enjoy. LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS, PEOPLE!
Omg yes lmao I seem to find this tribal bs everywhere I look lmao. I see this in football with others insulting one another for crowd sizes (man city v arsenal lmao) much like wrestling lmao. It's pretty crazy how similar fans are across every medium. People can't seem to just sit back and enjoy. It's all fight fight fight.
The whole "I like this thing so, that means it is better than yours" adolescent thought process is quite rampant. It's like "Go to sleep, kid. It's past your bed time.'
@djsognal You point blank said in another comment you don't watch AEW? This is exactly what Simon is talking about; don't make a wrestling company your personality and attack others for liking another product. It's more of an indication of you as a person than anything positive. Enjoy what you like, but don't be a dick to others. And before you even try to attack me, I watch AEW, WWE, TNA, NOAH, TJPW, and countless indies. I love all wrestling and see good and bad in promotions but I appreciate so much about it and don't understand hating one because it's not YOUR promotion.
Just want to say, I pretty much exclusively watch you and WC for my wrestling news bc I got so tired of the sensationalized focus on the negatives of wrestling and backstage difficulties of wrestlers on other channels. Nuance is good, and appreciated. Thanks for always making the work day go by a little faster ♥️
I’m old enough to remember the Territory Days. I thought it was great because all the promotions were different from each other. WCCW, WWF, Mid South, Mid Atlantic, Portland, St Louis, Georgia Championship, Championship Wrestling from Florida… at any time I could watch no less than 7 different types of Pro Wrestling on a weekend. It was great.
I watch both WWE and AEW. They have positives and negatives. I've watched many companies over the years. WCW, ECW, ROH, Chikara, etc... I rarely comment on wrestling videos on RUclips. If I give the slightest critique of something, I am hating the whole company and a mark for the other one. If I praise anything, I'm a mark for the company, and somehow, I'm anti the other one. I've been called an AEW rider and a WWE shill on the same day. Lmao.
It's almost like they treat different wrestling promotions as sports teams, everyones met the person who absolutely hates the team that you love, and some of them take it way too seriously and personally, and are the rudest people ever to you just because of your team preference, it's absolutely crazy.
I appreciate the positive spin on things. There are so many people spewing negativity out there, the algorithms feed us hate because they found out people engage more when they're pissed off. People going negative in their content are choosing the easy way to get views. Thank you for taking the road less traveled.
You, and in smaller part WCW, are the reason I’m back into wrestling. One of your videos popped up a few years ago so I watched it. I then watched Ups and Downs for a while because you’re so entertaining, and then started watching the WWE shows and then PLEs. You’re amazing. Don’t change, unless you want to.
Simon your enthusiasm is contagious. You helped me realise how much fun goofy wrestling really is. Can't wait for Ups and Downs and your videos. I wish you would swop places with Sidge on the Review shows as he depresses me and takes the glaze off matches i enjoyed. Keep up the good work. It's lovely to hear such passion. Im even using some Miller lingo in my daily speak. Cant wait for Hot Wrestlemania. My loved ones still dont understand why 2 + 2 = Potato or why a ringpost is called Rita. U r a star
I desperately want AEW to succeed and at the start I was really enjoying it (Partly due to the state of Raw and Smackdown at the time). Since then it’s gone in a direction that isn’t for me but lots of people still enjoy it and that’s great. From a business standpoint I think it’s undeniable that AEW hasn’t been set up in a healthy way which worries me slightly (If Tony’s money should for some unknown reason disappear that’s a lot of people, on an awful lot of money out of a job.). I’ll never understand fans who are loyal to one promotion, WWE certainly didn’t deserve any loyalty between 2014-2021 and for me AEW doesn’t right now; in some ways it’s like playing Universe Mode on 2k24, the matches are great, the roster is unbelievably stacked but the story just isn’t there and probably a few to many championships considering how long they’ve been in business. This was not in anyway made to enforce my wrestling beliefs on you and is only my opinion. Please be kind and have a nice day. 😉
I think the biggest issue with wrestling discourse right now is how people handle their assumptions. An angle doesn’t go how people were expecting, and we don’t know where it’s ultimately going. And it splits people. There are those who will think “this isn’t what I was expecting, so let’s see how it plays out and if I ultimately don’t like it I’ll say, but it might be great. Wrestling is a long term storytelling format after all.” And then others will look at that same angle, base their feelings on a bunch of assumptions about what the angle might mean going forward, and decided they don’t like it based on those assumptions. Why would you choose to assume the worst and make yourself angry rather than just be patient and see how it plays out?
Right?!?! I love wrestling and can be critical of it, but at the end of the day, it is dudes and women in sandex pretend hating each other on a scripted show. No reason to be so vile and defensive about it.
This is the only Wrestling RUclipsr i watch anymore, i used to watch another 5 but they have ALL become so lame and they just go with whichever way the wind is blowing on Twitter/X
Life already has enough negativity in it and these dudes get on the internet to get mad at people who just want to be positive about something they love. lmao what a life
Who hurt this man? Shame on you for hurting the prince of positivity! Keep up the good work Simon, I don't watch any other WWE content creators including the rest of what culture because of their negativity. We love your content! Don't change!
Always appreciate your positivity, Mr. Miller. It's totally possible to express opinions without being such a Negative Nancy. Some of these people need to take a beat and think about their comments before posting them.
Fair enough to do a video like this but you don’t need to. The internet is full of trolls. You’re videos are awesome and we appreciate your opinions. Keep it up mate!
I was a lapsed wrestling fan after life got really busy for me in the 2018-19 timeframe. I kept up with news for a while before I just stopped watching altogether. When I started watching again at the Royal Rumble this year and starting to watch AEW for the first time a little later in the year, you know what I realized? Wrestling is so damn good now. You have so many styles on TV that you can watch and so many good storylines and so many flavors of wrestling that are readily available and enjoyable that it can take up literally every week day(except Thursday I guess). And all of it is better, stronger, healthier, more stable, and more profitable than wrestling was a decade ago. I don't think wrestling has ever been this good, and it's better on both sides. Being mad at this is like being mad at someone else for liking another flavor of ice cream. We've all got our ice cream so lets enjoy it before it melts.
In my opinion most people that complain about a certain wrestling product aren't really true wrestling fans because if you were a true wrestling fan you would want every company to thrive and have Banger after Banger of a show every week but as always that's just my opinion
Your hard work and positivity is much appreciated. Do I always agree with you? No, of course not. It'd be kinda weird if I did. Do I appreciate and respect your opinion and your point of view? Abso-fucking-lutely! I do find it rather interesting that someone will talk shit and be surprised when shit is talked back to them. It seems like there are some folks in the internet wrestling community who forget that communication is a two-way street.
I don't get being mad at people that watch different products. Like get over it and watch what you like. I am all for being critical of companies, but being a complete asshole to people just because they watch one company and not the other, is just loser mentality too me.
I've seen people calling out Simon for being a wrestling mark (aren't we all?) for liking wrestling in general, Simon always tell us to just enjoy wrestling but somehow it seems easy but hard for most IWC. I can enjoy WWE weekly but sometimes when AEW have good segments like Mariah May heel turn recently, I will watch it as well.
I appreciate that you can articulate why you enjoy something even when others crap on you for liking it. The IWC would be a better place if people would adapt the attitude of “like what you like, don’t watch what you don’t like”
AEW is very experimental and take way more creative risks even if they fail they push it to the limit, WWE play it way too safe and 3 or 5 times a year they break the status quo and try something new by listening to the fans, either way each company brings something new to the table. I enjoyed Impact wrestling before AEW broke the wrestling Internet and AEW imo is awesome even when they have goofy segments 😂😂😂
6:39 had I stuck with training and made it to one performance in professional wrestling, this is what I would love to do with Simon. A breakdown of what we’re seeing, what we like, what needs improvement. Because all I want is for wrestling all around to be better. I want everyone from the most local indie all the way up to the dream WWE vs AEW vs NJPW super show to all get bookings & have 1 fan decide they are their new favorite wrestler. I don’t want to see anyone get hurt, I want to see everyone thrive. P.S: talking to me and my sons at WM39 outside SoFi, my boys will never forget that Simon. Neither will I 🫡
Feels like this is s vid you've been wanting to do for a while, im sorry you've had to deal with this horrible IWC, just know that the majority love your content and you as a person, youre a beacon of positivity in this sometimes horrendous fandom. Don't ever lose your smile. But also don't ever disrespect joe Hendrey again 😅
That idea about you need to be harsh and always focus on the bad in order to improve things is so mistaken. If you go to the best school in the world and take a class about Shakespeare or Mozart or whatever, you're not going to hear about all the stuff Shakespeare did wrong, or how Mozart could've used even better notes. If you take a science class, it's not about pointing out all the dumb ways people have failed at science. A computer programming class is not about pointing out all the flaws in bad code. No, they're about what creative people did well, what we can learn from it, how it's been influential, etc. A science class or a programming class teaches you how to do those things correctly. When wrestlers watch tape, they're not watching match after match of guys who suck so they can avoid making their mistakes. If they did, all they'd ever learn is what not to do, and they'd only have a handful of moves that rarely go wrong, and that would be boring. They watch tape looking for good things they can imitate or aspire to, and how to recover well from a mistake, how to make the best out of a cold crowd or a bad angle, how to play down weaknesses and play up strengths. Anyway, keep doing what you're doing, Simon. I love Ups & Downs.
Very briefly met simon once before clash at the castle 2022. Really genuine guy. Hope you see this man and know that all the dumb asses online are just that. They mean nothing and wouldn't say any of it to your face. Probably hard for you in your line of work but try and take a break from social media every now and then, it'll do you the world of good. Keep upping those downs and making us feel warm and fuzzy in our tum tum👍
Simon your positivity gives me a warm fuzzy feeling in my tummy, and gives me hope for humanity. You are an absolute Legend. Keep be you, you Rock Star.
tbh wrestling fans are generally very passionate they do tend to love or hate it and be far less neutral, that is no excuses to be asshole but i do think a certain amount is because they care so much about it. honestly apart from what culture i don't watch or engage with other wrestling fans on social media due to the toxic behaviours, which is sad because in 2010 it was really fun youtube community
Regardless if it's TNA, AEW, WWE, MLW, NJPW, some obscure indie no one knows about, a real wrestling fan just enjoys wrestling. Like you said, just because I like something someone might not like doesn't give someone the right to be a butt-head.
I've been watching since I was a little kid and would kill to have both WWF and WCW available. Unfortunately only WWF was available for me and that was all I watched. People these days can't understand what it's like to have everything so readily available, yet they participate in all this 'better than you' bullshit like they're trying to be MJF. Now I have everything accessible and this is basically the best time to be alive as a wrestling fan but of course all these miserable assholes just aren't happy. The real culprits I believe are the small time pages on Facebook that keep posting rage bait articles to rile up the fanboys and get people arguing because more comments and views = better stats for them. I'm just avoiding wrestling on FB and X altogether.
the only thing im tired of is people that refuse to accept the reality of what is wrong in each company. there are faults in both but one side never admits it while the other openly complains about it. both of those reactions are wrong. and stop trying to find the positives in everything because it makes everything worse.
I'm still waiting for the day to seeing Simon become a presenter for either WWE or AEW. Add some Miller positivity into the proceedings would be amazing!! Keep being you Simon, you're more of an influence than you may know sir! 🙂
@3:50 and rewinding a few seconds again because THIS WAS AWESOME! Simon getting real with his audience SPITTING INTO THE MIC!?!? Simon cutting a promo with 'thump' in my ear because he's so FRICKIN PASSIONATE about it! HELL YEAH! GIMME MORE BRO!....but unf*@k your audio settings before you spit in the mic again. My US Govt Issued tinnitus is bad enough already. ;)
I am too. The IWC and the stans, primarily from AEW were the main reason that made me quit AEW and I ended up unsubbing from all the dirt sheets like WhatCulture and Wrestlelamia. I get both companies have positives and negatives, but you have to accept both the good and the bad, while also holding your side accountable for the bad (eg. Tony Clown's rotten booking or WWE's storylines outside of the main roster). As for the Bayley segment, I am no fan of Nia Snax. Her promos are pretty bad, her ability in the ring is really bad and she is extremely reckless but gets protections because she is Aono'i. I think the point here is that Tiffy is going to exploit and stab both women in the back and walk off with the belt. If you like her, I won't stop you. Simon Miller was the only guy amongst the IWC/dirt sheets I remotely like.
I don’t even get why we compare them, they’re just so different. WWE is a huge entertainment corporation with millions of fans the world over and AEW is a small B tier television show and a touring product that struggles to make money. It’s just Indy wrestling on tv pretty much. Which honestly is great if you like that sort of thing but the WWE comparisons are silly, there are no stars in AEW. It’s a niche thing for geeks.
This is the first time since WCW that WWE has real competition. That has sadly created tribalism on BOTH sides. Tony Khan and HHH don’t help either feeding into it. Just ENJOY wrestling. I can’t watch everything as there isn’t enough time so i am sure most people will be in the same boat. Don’t like something, don’t watch it.
To anyone who wants to create content, the only thing you have that has worth, that sets you apart from everyone else is your honest opinion. Don't ever compromise it.
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the IWC has gotten so bad now that it genuinely detracts from the products. watching wrestling is much better without social media
For sure. It's supposed to be fun, no matter which you choose. Before social media, that's how it was.
you just gotta be smart, the wrestlers themselves are pretty good at continuing the kayfabe(drew is the goat). Also to be smart to separate the character and the person bc some peeps are def different lol.
Yeah, I finally bailed on Twitter a few months ago and it’s been great. Ignoring all the IWC stupidity makes wrestling so much more fun.
This is incredibly true. Great take.
@@davonhall9652No it wasn’t, WWE was just the only game in town for the better part of 20 years so things weren’t as tribalistic.
No one hates wrestling more than wrestling fans.
There is so much wrestling to watch. WWE, AEW, TNA, NJPW, Stardom, Progress, TJPW, and countless independent promotions that it makes zero sense to tell someone they are wrong for not watching the same promotion as someone else. Watch what you want and don't say someone is wrong about what they watch.
This is facts
100%
If you don't like WWE, then don't watch WWE.
If you don't like AEW, then don't watch AEW.
If you don't like Simon Miller, first of all what is wrong with you? Do you also hate Santa Claus? And second of all, then don't watch Simon Miller.
Sure, some things need to be called out like for example Cody giving away his Wrestlemania main event to The Rock, but there is a constructive way of bringing forth your criticism and going on all social media platforms you can find and yell about how WWE sucks and everyone who enjoys it sucks is NOT the way to go about it
The picture of Hulk Hogan popping up when you talked about "making stuff up", fantastic.
So fucking good. LOL
People take their own opinions way too seriously...I feel as though social media has helped make this worse
Absolutely. As a musician, I was gawking at this ad for a chorus pedal. I click into the comments and someone left a political rant. Like, dude, did you click in the wrong place? They must've been spamming in hopes of debate or thumbs up. 🙄
People fuel every industry. I just can't make sense of using that passion to just willingly pee on every rug.
It ain't even an opinion at this point.
Simon turned on the camera and said “I’m airing this shit out now” 😂🔥
Guy: Gets in personal space and starts verbally abusing me
Me: Back off
Guy: You're such a bad person for wanting to be treated with respect, not wanting to be verbally abused is offensive to me!
You are genuinely one of the only wrestling community youtubers that I watch. You content is great and your positivity is infectious! Don't stop being a badass!!
Wrestling fans are by far the biggest turn off to wrestling
if you don't like a federation, don't watch it. Simple. I like AEW and don't care for WWE. So I watch AEW and let other people enjoy WWE... who cares?
RIGHT! I love AEW and don't watch WWE. I love hearing about WWE from Simon, but that's about it. AEW is my home and I love it!
how do you deal with the WWE references on AEW TV? Does it annoy you?
@bravo_steve exactly the same. I love some of the WWE talent... but don't enjoy the product so I keep up with my favorites listening to Simon.
This isn't meant to be an attack but what makes you prefer AEW over WWE? I personally prefer WWE
@@bravo_steve my exact thoughts really. I only have a select few in WWE but not enough to keep me watching, so I’ll just catch it on the internet the next day from Simon
I really don’t understand this new generation. They have an endless amount of content at their fingertips, and they only watch things they don’t like so they can complain about it. Back in my day we had 10 channels and if we didn’t like anything that was on, we went outside. The time that it takes you to post a hateful comment you could’ve been using to learn a new skill or go to the gym and better yourself. Love your content, Simon. Stay positive.
These are the kind of comments I need to read to be reminded that not every wrestling fan is a rage fueled man child.
Thats what hapens when you have these social media platforms that reward negativity
Years ago I found I didn’t enjoy wrestling as much when I also watched youtube wrestling content because of the overwhelming negativity but lucky I found your channel. Over analyzing wrestling with negativity isn’t fun imo
I’m old enough to remember the Territory Days. I thought it was great because all the promotions were different from each other.
WCCW, WWF, Mid South, Mid Atlantic, Portland, St Louis, Georgia Championship, Championship Wrestling from Florida… at any time I could watch no less than 7 different types of Pro Wrestling on a weekend.
It was great.
At the time, there might have been some tribalism, but not with any of my friends. We tried to watch it all.
@@jamesb5764 right there with you. I've been watching wrestling for over 50 years. The territory days were awesome. So much variety.
I enjoy my AEW so much more without social media 😌 one of the best decisions I've made all year
Man, your parents must be very proud of you, Simon. Thank you for being real and positive.
His parents don't care about wrestling
@@markphillips8668Doesn’t mean that they can’t be proud of the man he is LMAO
There is too much negativity and tribalism among wrestling fans today. I'm a WWE fan through and through and I don't watch AEW but I genuinely hope AEW continues to thrive because more wrestling options is good for both fans and the wrestlers themselves. We have more options to pick from, they have more places to work, and we all win. Seriously, watch what you like, and let other people watch what they like. There's no reason to shame and insult fans who don't watch the same thing you do. Thank you Simon, for being such a positive light in the wrestling community, and I hope you do get a chance to perform on a major stage like WWE or AEW some day!
Simon, just wanna say you are one of the biggest reasons I got back into wrestling. Sucks you gotta deal with people not realizing end of the day you're just giving your positive pete but very much own opinions. Stay postive my friend, full send
The one that bugs me is the "You're the reason they aren't getting better" accusation. Unless they're paying me, it's not my job to help them improve. It's my job, as a fan, to have fun with their product and I have fun by focusing on the bits I like, not dwelling on the negatives
Loudly lying as if AEW is doing well (when they aren’t, by any stretch of the imagination) is absolutely one of the reasons they’re not getting better. I don’t watch AEW so I don’t care whether you keep them from succeeding or not, but don’t lie about it.
Can you imagen Triple H or Tony Khan thinking "well Simon liked so clearly we are doing something right" 😂
@@djsognal OK fun-sponge
@@itamarstrauss5170uh yea. Tony has literally said look what Dave Meltzer said, heck he literally talks to Dave Meltzer, Dave has said that about the matches.
@@djsognal People cried for years about WWE being shit and the ONLY reason that changed is because Vince had to step down due to legal reasons so go tell that lie to someone else and let people enjoy what they want
I remember those days with WCW, ECW and WWF... Wrestlingfans consumed everything without saying: The other company is sh**, i just watch "put name in here", because it is the best.
Reason? There was BARELY any internet available, no social media etc. GOOD OLD TIMES! Now everyone thinks their opinion is the right one and puts it out in the world and getting p*ssed if someone DARES to have another opinion. It is so tiring and dumb. If everyone had the same opinion and taste, we all would look the same, would wear the same clothes, the same house, the same car etc., just imagine, how boring that would be!?
Simon Miller is an international treasure. And if you needed any more proof, he actually brought back the word "buttmunch", which I hadn't heard since around 1993, and legit made me laugh out loud.
Tribalism sucks so much. People talk like they have personal stocks in these companies. If you're not enjoying a segment then change the channel for a bit
@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 Some of it is bots though or very sad people who have nothing to do. I don't think many fans care about promotions they don't watch. And a lot of fans watch both
Like many people in general if you ask wrestling fans that don't like AEW or WWE why they don't like them most of the time they can't give a proper reason.
Your point on the well of negativity on most channels really hit home. The amount of purposefully inflammatory video titles and devolving into clickbait nonsense (especially within the wrestling sphere - but also video games as my other big passion on RUclips stuff) has been utterly maddening. I used to enjoy a lot of content on certain channels, but unless it’s an ups or downs I really can’t be bothered anymore. People revelling in being trolls just isn’t what I want to see when it comes to coverage of wrestling or gaming.
People love to hate on posi vibes - but they certainly always cry like wee babies when it’s returned back on them.
Well presented. Everyone has an opinion just some seem to think their’s is more important
We live in a timeline where wrestling is in almost every night of the week. All these companies bring something different to the table. Vince is gone and WWE is better than it’s been in a decade or more. AEW is giving us some of the best matches on television. Yet people will still focus on the negatives and attack people who don’t want to do that. Just because I don’t have JD from NY style meltdowns when I don’t like something doesn’t make me less of a fan or disingenuous. Keep on doing the thing that makes you YOU Simon and I’m glad you stood up for yourself man.
Simon isnt too positive, a lot of people are just wayy too negative. Like bro chill out its just wrestling yall dont gotta be so harsh about what you see, wrestling is the most unserious goofy thing in the world , some people dont gotta be as toxic as they are about it. That goes for pretty much all entertainment too, wrestling, movies tv shows, or videogames in the grand scheme of things its not that serious regardless its just entertainment to take your mind off of your job or school or whatever is going on in life, we can always fairly criticize it but when you take it a step above that to genuine hatred and toxicity thats when you took it too far
I watch both, however I watch AEW more.
So odd that's what happens when people just wanna be content finding the positive side of things they love in their life and making the best out of things for themselves and others...People always gotta try to ruin it ± hence the reason to have to look at the positives despite all the negative surroundings. Big Up Simon. Theres not enough good examples in the wrestling world, but there are more because of you.
I love wrestling, but I Don't like wrestling fans. It sucks being part of the community and trying to enjoy it because people rain on your parade because they didn't enjoy it. I watch all of it. It doesn't matter the company to me but people really just want what they like to be the best
I've heard the name Simon Miller before. Somewhere... don't know where really. But never watched him before.
This dude has the correct attitude. I wish more people on the internet were capable of using their brains in this way.
I'll have to check out his videos again.
00:27 In this case THE NEW DAY needs to be your first guests. And I bet, they accept. xD
They know you and they like you and you know it. xD
Tribalism sucks
Just sthu & enjoy wrestling.
Simon 👍
I actually prefer Simon's glass half full take on the current wrestling. I'm so sick of crybaby 40 year olds that won't let the attitude era go. Yes wrestling had some low points in the previous 10-15 years but every industry does. If you don't like it just don't watch it.
I was a teenager during the attitude era. Was a super fun time to be a fan but it wasn’t the best all end all of pro wrestling. I mean the wrestlers now a days are way better athletes today then back then. The matches are a hell of a lot better too. It like if you hate modern wrestling why are you even watching it?
@TonyFleury agreed I was a young kid and the attitude era was my into to wresting. It had tons of OMG moments but looking back, a lot of it didn't age well. It was Jerry Springer every single week. Agree with you if you don't like it don't watch it lol
You know what Simon, this speaks to how fans “interact” with sports across the globe.
The fan thinks hurling insults and being vile is somehow “part of the show”. I have read tweets from individuals rationalizing this behavior, “they get paid millions of dollars” they can’t take it they should get out of the game.
Yet none of these same people would tolerate that same behavior from someone to them at their job.
I come to your content for YOU. You are entertaining. We don’t share the same views on pro wrestling, however, I think you’re great.
That’s my two bits.
It's just as stupid as the "Playstation vs. Xbox vs. Nintendo vs. Computer" debate. Everything offers something different, why not just appreciate it?! WWE, Impact, AEW, NJPW, and every other promotion got their talents to enjoy. LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS, PEOPLE!
Omg yes lmao
I seem to find this tribal bs everywhere I look lmao. I see this in football with others insulting one another for crowd sizes (man city v arsenal lmao) much like wrestling lmao.
It's pretty crazy how similar fans are across every medium. People can't seem to just sit back and enjoy. It's all fight fight fight.
The whole "I like this thing so, that means it is better than yours" adolescent thought process is quite rampant. It's like "Go to sleep, kid. It's past your bed time.'
Because I think one promotion is bad. And when fans of their promotion start lying, I’m not going to do the same.
@@djsognal Just because you think a promotion is bad, doesn't mean others feel the same. Again, let people enjoy things.
@djsognal You point blank said in another comment you don't watch AEW? This is exactly what Simon is talking about; don't make a wrestling company your personality and attack others for liking another product.
It's more of an indication of you as a person than anything positive. Enjoy what you like, but don't be a dick to others.
And before you even try to attack me, I watch AEW, WWE, TNA, NOAH, TJPW, and countless indies. I love all wrestling and see good and bad in promotions but I appreciate so much about it and don't understand hating one because it's not YOUR promotion.
How dare you like something I don't and vise versa! 😂 Always gonna be weirdos and elitism in everything. Kudos to you for trying to ignore it.
Just want to say, I pretty much exclusively watch you and WC for my wrestling news bc I got so tired of the sensationalized focus on the negatives of wrestling and backstage difficulties of wrestlers on other channels. Nuance is good, and appreciated. Thanks for always making the work day go by a little faster ♥️
I’m old enough to remember the Territory Days. I thought it was great because all the promotions were different from each other.
WCCW, WWF, Mid South, Mid Atlantic, Portland, St Louis, Georgia Championship, Championship Wrestling from Florida… at any time I could watch no less than 7 different types of Pro Wrestling on a weekend.
It was great.
I watch both WWE and AEW.
They have positives and negatives.
I've watched many companies over the years. WCW, ECW, ROH, Chikara, etc...
I rarely comment on wrestling videos on RUclips.
If I give the slightest critique of something, I am hating the whole company and a mark for the other one.
If I praise anything, I'm a mark for the company, and somehow, I'm anti the other one.
I've been called an AEW rider and a WWE shill on the same day. Lmao.
There's no way i got a VShred ad before this video lmao🤣
It's almost like they treat different wrestling promotions as sports teams, everyones met the person who absolutely hates the team that you love, and some of them take it way too seriously and personally, and are the rudest people ever to you just because of your team preference, it's absolutely crazy.
I appreciate the positive spin on things. There are so many people spewing negativity out there, the algorithms feed us hate because they found out people engage more when they're pissed off. People going negative in their content are choosing the easy way to get views.
Thank you for taking the road less traveled.
You, and in smaller part WCW, are the reason I’m back into wrestling. One of your videos popped up a few years ago so I watched it. I then watched Ups and Downs for a while because you’re so entertaining, and then started watching the WWE shows and then PLEs. You’re amazing. Don’t change, unless you want to.
Sometimes you just want to be a fan of something without being in the fandom of something
Simon your enthusiasm is contagious. You helped me realise how much fun goofy wrestling really is. Can't wait for Ups and Downs and your videos. I wish you would swop places with Sidge on the Review shows as he depresses me and takes the glaze off matches i enjoyed. Keep up the good work. It's lovely to hear such passion. Im even using some Miller lingo in my daily speak. Cant wait for Hot Wrestlemania. My loved ones still dont understand why 2 + 2 = Potato or why a ringpost is called Rita. U r a star
I desperately want AEW to succeed and at the start I was really enjoying it (Partly due to the state of Raw and Smackdown at the time). Since then it’s gone in a direction that isn’t for me but lots of people still enjoy it and that’s great. From a business standpoint I think it’s undeniable that AEW hasn’t been set up in a healthy way which worries me slightly (If Tony’s money should for some unknown reason disappear that’s a lot of people, on an awful lot of money out of a job.). I’ll never understand fans who are loyal to one promotion, WWE certainly didn’t deserve any loyalty between 2014-2021 and for me AEW doesn’t right now; in some ways it’s like playing Universe Mode on 2k24, the matches are great, the roster is unbelievably stacked but the story just isn’t there and probably a few to many championships considering how long they’ve been in business.
This was not in anyway made to enforce my wrestling beliefs on you and is only my opinion. Please be kind and have a nice day. 😉
Haters are going to hate. 🤷🏻♂️ the online wrestling community is desperate for controversy in a post Vince era.
I think the biggest issue with wrestling discourse right now is how people handle their assumptions.
An angle doesn’t go how people were expecting, and we don’t know where it’s ultimately going. And it splits people.
There are those who will think “this isn’t what I was expecting, so let’s see how it plays out and if I ultimately don’t like it I’ll say, but it might be great. Wrestling is a long term storytelling format after all.”
And then others will look at that same angle, base their feelings on a bunch of assumptions about what the angle might mean going forward, and decided they don’t like it based on those assumptions.
Why would you choose to assume the worst and make yourself angry rather than just be patient and see how it plays out?
It's so corny. A bunch of dudes arguing over wrestling 😂. So silly
Right?!?! I love wrestling and can be critical of it, but at the end of the day, it is dudes and women in sandex pretend hating each other on a scripted show. No reason to be so vile and defensive about it.
Duuude, a podcast or luve where you bring on randomly selected fans and they can ask questions or discuss a segment, would be SIIICK dude
This is the only Wrestling RUclipsr i watch anymore, i used to watch another 5 but they have ALL become so lame and they just go with whichever way the wind is blowing on Twitter/X
Life already has enough negativity in it and these dudes get on the internet to get mad at people who just want to be positive about something they love. lmao what a life
Who hurt this man? Shame on you for hurting the prince of positivity! Keep up the good work Simon, I don't watch any other WWE content creators including the rest of what culture because of their negativity. We love your content! Don't change!
Always appreciate your positivity, Mr. Miller. It's totally possible to express opinions without being such a Negative Nancy. Some of these people need to take a beat and think about their comments before posting them.
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Fair enough to do a video like this but you don’t need to. The internet is full of trolls. You’re videos are awesome and we appreciate your opinions. Keep it up mate!
I was a lapsed wrestling fan after life got really busy for me in the 2018-19 timeframe. I kept up with news for a while before I just stopped watching altogether. When I started watching again at the Royal Rumble this year and starting to watch AEW for the first time a little later in the year, you know what I realized?
Wrestling is so damn good now.
You have so many styles on TV that you can watch and so many good storylines and so many flavors of wrestling that are readily available and enjoyable that it can take up literally every week day(except Thursday I guess). And all of it is better, stronger, healthier, more stable, and more profitable than wrestling was a decade ago. I don't think wrestling has ever been this good, and it's better on both sides. Being mad at this is like being mad at someone else for liking another flavor of ice cream. We've all got our ice cream so lets enjoy it before it melts.
In my opinion most people that complain about a certain wrestling product aren't really true wrestling fans because if you were a true wrestling fan you would want every company to thrive and have Banger after Banger of a show every week but as always that's just my opinion
People getting angry that you're trying to find the things you actually like, in a hobby you like, is wild to me. Who on earth hurt these people?
Your hard work and positivity is much appreciated. Do I always agree with you? No, of course not. It'd be kinda weird if I did. Do I appreciate and respect your opinion and your point of view? Abso-fucking-lutely! I do find it rather interesting that someone will talk shit and be surprised when shit is talked back to them. It seems like there are some folks in the internet wrestling community who forget that communication is a two-way street.
Well done Internet... you pissed Simon off !
I love you speaking the truth Simon. Don't let negative Nancy's tell you else wise
You're the man Simon. Keep being you and being a positive ray of sunshine in a world and wrestling fandom full of dark clouds.
Life is too short to be negative all the time. Be positive and enjoy life like Simon does
I don't get being mad at people that watch different products. Like get over it and watch what you like. I am all for being critical of companies, but being a complete asshole to people just because they watch one company and not the other, is just loser mentality too me.
I've seen people calling out Simon for being a wrestling mark (aren't we all?) for liking wrestling in general, Simon always tell us to just enjoy wrestling but somehow it seems easy but hard for most IWC. I can enjoy WWE weekly but sometimes when AEW have good segments like Mariah May heel turn recently, I will watch it as well.
I love you Simon, damn the assholes and disrespect, one wrestling nerd to another, you got my highest respect brotha
I appreciate that you can articulate why you enjoy something even when others crap on you for liking it. The IWC would be a better place if people would adapt the attitude of “like what you like, don’t watch what you don’t like”
Amen!! 💯💯👍👍
Yet another reason Simon is the best. You make me more positive about life in general and that makes life a lot. 💪🏾🙏🏾
AEW is very experimental and take way more creative risks even if they fail they push it to the limit, WWE play it way too safe and 3 or 5 times a year they break the status quo and try something new by listening to the fans, either way each company brings something new to the table. I enjoyed Impact wrestling before AEW broke the wrestling Internet and AEW imo is awesome even when they have goofy segments 😂😂😂
“Making stuff up” as the pic flips to Hogan is hilarious. 4:05
lol, didn’t even notice that!
Preach Simon. Just enjoy wrestling tribalism is stupid.
How DARE you be a positive Pete?!?! Your name isn't even Pete! lol Much love man, you are best!
My fake fighting company is better than your fake fighting company! 😂
Well it’s not fake it’s STAGED. Big difference if it was fake guys wouldn’t really get hurt.
@@growing.grounds4054 I'm well aware. I'm just saying it's a stupid topic to argue over. Like u said it's staged.
@@Sickness362 true I understand
This is the video I was hoping for. Now no more apologizing for being positive. 👏👏👏
6:39 had I stuck with training and made it to one performance in professional wrestling, this is what I would love to do with Simon. A breakdown of what we’re seeing, what we like, what needs improvement. Because all I want is for wrestling all around to be better. I want everyone from the most local indie all the way up to the dream WWE vs AEW vs NJPW super show to all get bookings & have 1 fan decide they are their new favorite wrestler. I don’t want to see anyone get hurt, I want to see everyone thrive.
P.S: talking to me and my sons at WM39 outside SoFi, my boys will never forget that Simon. Neither will I 🫡
Professional Wrestling needs more Simon Miller and less modern day Jim Cornette.
Feels like this is s vid you've been wanting to do for a while, im sorry you've had to deal with this horrible IWC, just know that the majority love your content and you as a person, youre a beacon of positivity in this sometimes horrendous fandom. Don't ever lose your smile. But also don't ever disrespect joe Hendrey again 😅
That idea about you need to be harsh and always focus on the bad in order to improve things is so mistaken. If you go to the best school in the world and take a class about Shakespeare or Mozart or whatever, you're not going to hear about all the stuff Shakespeare did wrong, or how Mozart could've used even better notes. If you take a science class, it's not about pointing out all the dumb ways people have failed at science. A computer programming class is not about pointing out all the flaws in bad code. No, they're about what creative people did well, what we can learn from it, how it's been influential, etc. A science class or a programming class teaches you how to do those things correctly. When wrestlers watch tape, they're not watching match after match of guys who suck so they can avoid making their mistakes. If they did, all they'd ever learn is what not to do, and they'd only have a handful of moves that rarely go wrong, and that would be boring. They watch tape looking for good things they can imitate or aspire to, and how to recover well from a mistake, how to make the best out of a cold crowd or a bad angle, how to play down weaknesses and play up strengths. Anyway, keep doing what you're doing, Simon. I love Ups & Downs.
Very briefly met simon once before clash at the castle 2022. Really genuine guy. Hope you see this man and know that all the dumb asses online are just that. They mean nothing and wouldn't say any of it to your face. Probably hard for you in your line of work but try and take a break from social media every now and then, it'll do you the world of good. Keep upping those downs and making us feel warm and fuzzy in our tum tum👍
Hi and agreed.
Goober, Elmo, hogan burns, and Simon taking names. This is how to start a Monday/ work week! Thank you Simon!
I watch both companies each company has their own ups and downs you enjoy what you enjoy
How anyone could be mad at Simon is beyond me, he is the most positive guy in all of the wrestling community and he is just so lovable.
Simon your positivity gives me a warm fuzzy feeling in my tummy, and gives me hope for humanity. You are an absolute Legend. Keep be you, you Rock Star.
tbh wrestling fans are generally very passionate they do tend to love or hate it and be far less neutral, that is no excuses to be asshole but i do think a certain amount is because they care so much about it. honestly apart from what culture i don't watch or engage with other wrestling fans on social media due to the toxic behaviours, which is sad because in 2010 it was really fun youtube community
As Tupac said, "ALL my shit's positive". Keep doin your thing Simon. Your a breathe of fresh air really, especially when u break it down like this 👍
Regardless if it's TNA, AEW, WWE, MLW, NJPW, some obscure indie no one knows about, a real wrestling fan just enjoys wrestling. Like you said, just because I like something someone might not like doesn't give someone the right to be a butt-head.
I've been watching since I was a little kid and would kill to have both WWF and WCW available. Unfortunately only WWF was available for me and that was all I watched. People these days can't understand what it's like to have everything so readily available, yet they participate in all this 'better than you' bullshit like they're trying to be MJF. Now I have everything accessible and this is basically the best time to be alive as a wrestling fan but of course all these miserable assholes just aren't happy. The real culprits I believe are the small time pages on Facebook that keep posting rage bait articles to rile up the fanboys and get people arguing because more comments and views = better stats for them. I'm just avoiding wrestling on FB and X altogether.
the only thing im tired of is people that refuse to accept the reality of what is wrong in each company. there are faults in both but one side never admits it while the other openly complains about it. both of those reactions are wrong. and stop trying to find the positives in everything because it makes everything worse.
Screw the negativity, Simon; always keep on doing things your way.
I'm still waiting for the day to seeing Simon become a presenter for either WWE or AEW. Add some Miller positivity into the proceedings would be amazing!! Keep being you Simon, you're more of an influence than you may know sir! 🙂
@3:50 and rewinding a few seconds again because THIS WAS AWESOME! Simon getting real with his audience SPITTING INTO THE MIC!?!? Simon cutting a promo with 'thump' in my ear because he's so FRICKIN PASSIONATE about it! HELL YEAH! GIMME MORE BRO!....but unf*@k your audio settings before you spit in the mic again. My US Govt Issued tinnitus is bad enough already. ;)
Well said.
One of the reasons I have subbed and followed you is your positivity.
Who the hell gives Miller shit? The only watchable person on Whatculture.
I am too. The IWC and the stans, primarily from AEW were the main reason that made me quit AEW and I ended up unsubbing from all the dirt sheets like WhatCulture and Wrestlelamia. I get both companies have positives and negatives, but you have to accept both the good and the bad, while also holding your side accountable for the bad (eg. Tony Clown's rotten booking or WWE's storylines outside of the main roster).
As for the Bayley segment, I am no fan of Nia Snax. Her promos are pretty bad, her ability in the ring is really bad and she is extremely reckless but gets protections because she is Aono'i. I think the point here is that Tiffy is going to exploit and stab both women in the back and walk off with the belt. If you like her, I won't stop you.
Simon Miller was the only guy amongst the IWC/dirt sheets I remotely like.
I don’t even get why we compare them, they’re just so different. WWE is a huge entertainment corporation with millions of fans the world over and AEW is a small B tier television show and a touring product that struggles to make money. It’s just Indy wrestling on tv pretty much. Which honestly is great if you like that sort of thing but the WWE comparisons are silly, there are no stars in AEW. It’s a niche thing for geeks.
lol let em know Simon. They don't want the smoke. Keep doing you bro, you're doing great. It would be sad if you left.
This is the first time since WCW that WWE has real competition. That has sadly created tribalism on BOTH sides. Tony Khan and HHH don’t help either feeding into it. Just ENJOY wrestling. I can’t watch everything as there isn’t enough time so i am sure most people will be in the same boat. Don’t like something, don’t watch it.
To anyone who wants to create content, the only thing you have that has worth, that sets you apart from everyone else is your honest opinion.
Don't ever compromise it.
Everyone is like, “Simon is a WWE shill” or “Simon is an AEW shill”…..we all know that Simon is a Stampede Wrestling shill and always will be 😂