As a direct result of listening to Bishop Barron for the last 5 years, I started the RCIA last week and attended Mass for the first time. I’m thrilled about this journey
As a craddle Catholic, I feel more and more reassured that being Catholic is my first calling, and I am forever grateful to my parents that brought me to the sacraments.
Rather say thank God I am a follower of Christ. The church is a spiritual nation of the holy people of God who were sanctified by the blood of the Lamb of God the Lord JESUS CHRIST ,see Daniel 7. Without holiness you cannot be a member of the catholic church.
@@christisgodd Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:10 There is none righteous, no not one. We are all sinners. If one has accepted Christ as their Savior and repented of their sins to HIM, and asked HIM into their heart, then they are SAVED and have eternal life through Jesus. We still sin being in the flesh, but we have the Holy Spirit dwelling in us and are ever struggling to live in the spirit, not in the flesh. None of us on Earth however (including the human Pope and all the people Catholicism beautifies into Saints...none of these people are holy or without sin). We are only sanctified by the blood of Jesus. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast
The Catholic Church says there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. This is NOT true. Actually, there is NO salvation outside of the Lord Jesus Christ. And please don't say that the Catholic Church is the body of Christ....not while many priests are preying on little boys without intervention from Catholic authorities. Please....my prayers go out for the many deluded good Catholics who truly want a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ yet are encouraged to pray to alleged saints and worship Mary as well. Jesus was clear that HE is the only intercessor between God and man. “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6).
As a convert to Roman Catholicism (23 years ago) from a fundamentalist Protestant tradition, I can tell you that Catholicism just makes sense in all its teachings. And the longer I'm a Catholic, the more I believe it just makes sense. Mind you that there are sinful people in the Church, but that does not make it untrue or meaningless.
God’s chosen people in the Old Testament, the Israelites, had corrupt kings and priests that presided over them at times. And God allowed this to happen despite the Israelites being his chosen people. It’s the same with the Catholic Church. Just because the Church had corrupt leaders presiding over it at times - that is not proof that the Catholic Church is not the true church. We cannot understand God’s plan, but for some reason he allows things like this to happen and usually it’s for our sanctification.
@@frisco61 If I may, what makes sense about trusting that a 2000 year old book written during the bronze ages accurately depicts how our universe was created, to such an extent that you base your life around it? And isn't that same book filled with outlandish tales of the world being flooded (which disagrees with scientific findings in the geological record), or entire towns being raised from the dead, and tales of horrific vengeance by God on the people he created? Most of all, how does it "make sense" that God tortures his son in order to forgive the sins of mankind? Why would he need to torture anyone? And why is it that belief in Jesus saves you from damnation? Isn't that a terrible standard? So mass murderers who believe in Jesus go to heaven, while great men and humanitarians who are atheists go to hell? Tell me, what about that makes sense to you?
Welcome back, Catherine Taylor! I drifted pretty far away myself and came back. One thing that I discovered that made me want to come back was that it is fascinating to learn about the saints in our Church. They are so fascinating to me and they have helped me to have a better understanding of what it means to know, and love and serve our Lord. They’re like big brothers and sisters in the faith and I really do believe that when we ask them to pray for us they do just that. One last thing: If you have the misfortune of coming across a “bad apple” in the Church (as I have) please don’t let this interfere with your own journey. Recognize the bad apples for what they are and stay close to our Lord. (And to our Lady 🌹).
Many of my dear friends are Catholic converts from other faith backgrounds.Islam, Protestants and Sikhism. The first steps for them was support from good friends, talking to the local catholic priests and attending Mass. The journey wasn't always easy, for them, but their love of Christ helped them overcome any challenges they had with family. My prayers are with you. God bless you. 🙏🙏🙏💕
I am from India 🇮🇳born to a Catholic parents and grandparents ..and so proud ...I remember learning Catechism from CBC brothers from Ireland...attending church every Sunday with my MOM..then .. Sunday school , being taught about the church rules ..prayers by sisters of charity .....wow 😇🙏🙏...now in my 50s following Bishop Barron ....blessed 😇...praise God
@Christopher Jacob Hi Christopher, I am fascinated to hear from a Catholic from India! I wish that we could sit down for tea so I could hear from you about what that has been like for you. I’m so glad to hear that you are happy in your faith and I’m wondering if you or your loved ones have ever experienced suffering in India because of your religion? God bless you, my brother in Christ. I send you love from Connecticut ♥
@@Featherfinder 😊😊thanks so much.. may the Lord God bless you and your family members ..yes I would love to share my experiences growing up as a Catholic..😇
@Margaret Corrigan I am too a 16 year old Catholic from India..but I live Mumbai..a pretty urban city..it is the north eastern side and rural area christians who face the most persecution..and it has increased now becuz of our gov being fundamentalist Hindus trying to make India a complete Hindu nation...its said the persecution will soon come get modern cities like Mumbai and Delhi..pls pray for our country
To the young Muslim lady who held doubts about converting to Catholicism, I would suggest e-mailing your local churches and explaining your situation. I'm sure you will find a priest who will be able to help you out, either through conversation by e-mail or an appointment in person. If you don't find a priest you connect with, keep trying until you do. Follow your heart. Don't feel shy or self-conscious. I'm from London and doing catechism classes, and will be baptised at Easter. I had to message a few churches and talk through my doubts before reaching where I am now. I think it is brave of you to want to convert, and encourage you to carry on along the same path. God bless.
I pray for that lady that she gets all the support she needs and follows her heart , I pray the lord Jesus Christ sends blessings down upon her and all her family, friends and associates.🙏🙏
Islam doesn’t allow apostasy. Your ancestor committed his bloodline to Islam for eternity. A moslem who leaves Islam disrespects his ancestor, and violates the 4th commandment. If Islam is the true religion, he goes to hell for apostasy. If Christianity is the true religion, he goes to hell for not honoring his ancestor. Either way, he goes to hell if he converts from Islam to Christianity. Whereas if he stays with Islam, at least he gets a chance to go to heaven if Islam is the true religion.
Bishop Barron your Word on Fire evangelization is so important in my life. My mom filled you and she bequeathed her joy in listening to you, to her family. You have been a daily part of my life for almost four years. I can say it has been amazing and life changing as for my spiritual development. God bless and I will keep you in my prayers!
Hi Scott Scott. Don't worry about going to mass. It's not like protestant church where people are going to come up and hug you and make you stand up and introduce yourself as a first timer....none of that nonsense. Catholics go to mass to worship God, not for social hour. Just quietly slip in, sit in the back, focus on God and take it. I wish you the best my friend.
Pick a weekday Mass. These are generally less attended. You don't have to worry about not knowing what to do. As a non-Catholic you are not expected to know what to do or what is going on. There are a number of "Teaching Mass" videos on RUclips that explain, often in simple terms, what exactly is happening at every part of the Mass. Watch one or two of these videos before you go. I hope this helps.
Hi Scott. I’m Roman Catholic and I also have social anxiety disorder and also PTSD. What worked for me was to attend a weekday Mass where usually there aren’t as many people. But, I still had some level of anxiety, so I just made up my mind to pick a Sunday Mass and just go. My anxiety dissipated after I knelt and began to pray before Mass. No one there put any pressure on me and they respected my personal space. After that first Mass, it was all good. I love the Catholic Church and it was definitely worth feeling stressed for a little while to get there. As another commenter said, it’s not like a Protestant church. Ask God to help you and He will. May you be blessed on your journey. I’ll say an Ave Maria for you. 💕🙏🙏🙏🕯️🕊️🌷
Lovely conversation with Bishop Barron on a very touchy and sensitive topic. Well presented and good points shared. Brandon moderated the episode so well. Truly blessed to be born and raised a Roman Catholic and to get the chance to live my faith and be faithful to God always.
And exactly how is that quote worthy of bold font?? All major religions can meet this standard because they've all had their share of scholars to shore up their theology. As christianity sinks to this level which parallels the stuff "american exceptionalism", it is already dead on arrival.
@@aaabbb-py5xd To my knowledge, fonts classifications do not have labels 'worthy', not worthy. I am not from America, and I do not find your comment worthy of not just American but of any nationality.
@@downenout8705 Perhaps you missed the title of the video. If not clear listen to the introduction. The show has successfully presented the expected theme.
@@marypinakat8594 I never said that RB didn't "successfully" present "the expected theme", did I. I say again, if you are going to reply to my comment please at least have the courtesy to respond to what is actually written.
Full Reception into the Church ( left friends..distant from family) Divine Mercy April 2022. 64 years of age Birthplace. Chicago,IL (Yes, Bishop Barron was one of my resources in making my decision) Bishop Barron thank-you for serving our LORD My attraction to Catholicism ? Learn more about Jesus Christ 🙏🏾❤️
I asked God once for a sign that our faith was real and I did get a validation that was meaningful to me...this topic is so timely.....thank you Fr Barron.
Here's a sign ... Tomorrow, February 14th., 2023 is the Lunar Sabbath from God's PERFECT calendar. You might like to break from the Genesis 36:2 calendars: Cana'an/Julian or Esau/Gregorian ...
I was at a point where I didn't know which religion was right, so I asked God which one is right, and he told me Catholicism, I'm coming into communion with Rome this Easter vigil
I am Catholic. But I haven't always been Catholic. Humility is what keeps me coming back. And Humility keeps me in dialog with people who believe different from what I believe. To Lela: hope everything works out. Prayers. Thank you for considering being a Catholic Christian.
I was born in India and have been exposed mainly to Hindu and Muslim lifestyles and traditions. I have had the advantage of information and perspective of strong religious angles. And It's only lent me the ability to deepen my relationship with the Catholic faith. So in a sense, I got lucky, to have been born/raised and baptized in this faith that I, myself, have taken for granted. And by no means do I now take credit for either. But some generations ago a community was founded and one of those community members happened to be my ancestor. It does and has made me wonder about the strength of my faith. Which had all the odds stacked against itself being that it was surrounded by predominantly Hindus and yet there was a yearning and room for Jesus’s words and message of salvation. And here I'm in continuation of that faith. Going strong. I think there's something more than the effects of traditions there. There are many that are actual traditions that i don't make it a point to keep. But something special of the faith linked to Christ our savior. It is indeed a very special link and lifestyle.
@Ad X religion is historically & culturally bound, each and every one. Choose the wisdom that speaks to you from them all & realize you're a human with a FREE thinking mind who doesn't need to be brainwashed by any religion but feel what speaks to you as an individual, then you can live your personal truth instead of being a regurgitating robot of scripture.
Bishop Barron , Thank you so much for NOT dumbing it down, I have learned so much from you over that last several years, and this video is one more superb example. Thank you and God Bless you!
Dear Bishop Baron Happy to hear you are visiting London. I was in London last year and I so surprised to a lot of Christian group and we’re trying to ask me to join them. But I said I have just attended mass in the Catholic Church and they insist that I join them. But so as not to offend I sat with the family and had a chat . They read the bible and knows in detail the new testament and the Old Testament But they do not believe in the blessedVirgin and question for venerating the saints I really wish they would join the Catholic Church.
I'm not against Catholic Christianity but I'm not an Catholic. I've listened to Bishop Robert Barron and he makes good arguments for the Christian faith along with William Lane Craig & Frank Turek.
@@russellmiles2861 I hope you’re not under the impression that you “don’t need heaven”, Russell Miles. Because humans don’t come to an end when they die.
Christianity is Catholicism and Catholicism is Christianity, for all intents and purposes, since the grace from Jesus fully subsists in the Catholic Church.
Yes, I agreed 👍 with you Bishop. I inlove ♥️ being a Catholic Church because of the Holy Eucharist( body and blood of Christ). Aside from that others sacrament. I recite the "Creed" with all my ❤️ heart and show it through my actions. It's so challenging to me because my own Earthly husband is a Protestant Christian. I keep on defending my Catholic faith in a nice way with calm to my husband. We have little bit misunderstanding but he avoided to argue with me. I keep on asking God to send us His Holy Spirit from now and then in my daily life and to my family. Thanks a lot Bishop Barron! God bless you both Brandon and Bishop! God bless us all! Praise God! Amen.
God bless Bishop Barron, the way he articulates the complexities of the faith in such a clear and thoughtful manner what a heavy cross to carry having to undertake this task.
A great book that is very relevant here is Dinesh D'Souza's What is So Great About Christianity. In it he tackles that question about there being 4000+ religions. He boils them down pretty quickly and sees many of them not as religions, but rather philosophy or cultural expressions. So, that number of actual religions falls dramatically. Then when you start to look for eternal truth that is applicable to every human on the planet you quickly come to monotheism and then he breaks it down further from there. It's a good read and pretty straight forward, it might not be exactly in the Catholic tradition but pretty close.
@@downenout8705 The video is titled "Why is Your Religion the Right One?" and the discussion did aim at answering it. There wasn't any promise of proving something.
The spiritual and physical feeding episodes of God... wedding in Cana... God bless Word on Fire... Mabuhay Bishop Barron and the entire cast and crew...
Leila, all the best with your conversion. I hope you have found the support that Bishop Barron suggested. God bless you. I will pray tonight for you and your family shall the Holy Spirit guide your next steps and for your family shall they discern what is truth vs what is not.
@@rlrett1 Matthew 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
If Laila is reading, I’d say that the first step is to include your mother and your family in your questions and thoughts. Don’t just convert and then surprise them a big announcement later. Show your family that you take these questions very seriously and give them a chance to win you back. Be open, patient, loving, and honest. Maybe include your mother in your catechesis. Talk about where Islam and Catholicism intersect, find points of commonality.
I have always believed the Catholic faith . I have not always lived it though. I have turned back to God, and am listening to a Christian Bible. The fact that the Blessed Mother Mary is not recognized REALLY surprised and pffended me!
A Facebook meme says something to the effect of, "In the course of history, humans have believed in millions of different gods - gods you Christians also reject. I simply believe in one less god than you." This strikes me as fairly obviously flawed. Firstly, it's not just in matters of religion that there is an enormous spectrum of belief or opinion. There are innumerable positions in the various forms of political discourse, for example. Just because humans cannot agree on a single political philosophy does not mean that anybody who has a political opinion is therefore a fool. Many an atheist would be insulted to be told that their political opinions are idiotic simply because there are lots of other political opinions out there. But Bishop Barron rightly draws attention to the glaring example of an excluded middle: just because I believe that I have found the one true faith does not mean that all other faiths are wholly devoid of truth (even though some Christians have asserted exactly that). How could Thomas Aquinas have accorded such respect to the pagan, Aristotle, if he thought that there was no truth at all outside the boundaries of the Christian religion? It is one of the flaws of Puritanism that it thought that Christianity was somehow polluted (and thereby invalidated) if it accepted the possibility that non-Christians (and non-Puritans) could speak the truth.
Thank you Bishop Barron. Thank you Brendon too. Enjoyable and interesting. Have a wonderful blessed, happy life and enjoyable Holy Lent. Amen Glory to God in the Highest level of Love forever. ❤❤❤😁
“Christ's Church has no intention of yielding ground to her avowed enemy, atheistic socialism/communism, without a struggle. This battle will be fought to the end, but with the weapons of Christ!” Pope Pious XII 1957
Maybe you mentioned it near the end. But first thing and last thing is: Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church with St. Peter and we can trace our lineage down throughout history.
Jesus said to His apostles, remember, you have not chosen me, but I have chosen you. Those born into the Catholic faith have indeed been blessed but many take this blessing for granted and waste it. How blessed are those who truly convert to Catholicism from a different faith.
There ought to be laws protecting citizens from religious authority flooding. An example is a person who attends kingdom hall in victoria British Columbia pulling strings for some one in Terrace British Columbia to effect the result of an investigation.
Yes I think that's the most helpful way to put it, that you believe your religion to be a 'fuller expression of the truth', and that all the major traditions are close to that truth, and not simply wrong, and you're sincerely speaking from a considered position that has been very well informed by a variety of critiques and self doubts, fully considered, and expressed with love. That is fair enough I think. I still don't think any of us can actually totally remove elements of cultural conditioning and confirmation bias, we're all somewhat rationalising what we've been given, and effectively saying this is my culture and my tradition, and it makes more sense for me to be a flavour of that than to completely up root myself from it and plunge totally into something different, assuming it's basically justifiable to me. I was brought up in a strong pacifist version of Christianity, Quakerism, and one that values silence and simplicity. I can see great merit in more colourful traditions, but I also see that I value peace, silence and simplicity because that tradition makes that very real to me. That's not just an argument I can make to someone else, it's a lived experience I can only hope to draw you towards, and at certain point it's highly likely that it will only draw you in if it's expressing something that you already have some sympathy for, so to a degree it makes sense to me that we all find a place that right for us, even within any one tradition.
I was scrolling through these comments hoping to find one as intelligent as yours. Thank you. No one can answer this question “fully” without saying what you just said.
“I just think soccer is the most boring sport in the world to watch. The field is too big. There’s no action. They just seem to be wandering around.” -Bishop Barron speaking 100% truth
Like most Americans Bp Barron loves instant gratification in sport. Nothing wrong with that but there are other philosophies. Soccer is only called soccer in the US. Everywhere else soccer is “football”. “Football” fans watch the constant struggle on the field, the thrill of expectation, the pathos of disappointment and keeping hope alive through setbacks. They participate in an epic journey. We are all prisoners to our culture in some way. It does not matter in a spectator sport. But it’s instructive in how much our lives are directed by culture and habit.
I played American football my entire life, (had pro try-outs) never liked soccer for Bishops reasons, however I tried watching the World Cup 10 years ago, and really enjoy it now and find it extremely exciting 😊👍🏻
Converting to Catholicism from Islam/Muslim will take time and sacrifice, ultimately giving up your family to follow Jesus which is one of his challenges to us if we want salvation. To give up your wealth by giving it to the poor is a tough example but as an adult, one must make a decision and be prepared for the consequences. Weigh what is really important to you...
A young man came and placed his pious platitude before Jesus... how he had kept all the laws expecting Jesus to pat him on the shoulder and say 'well done good servant you have done all there is to do. Relax and wait for your crown of glory'. But the Lord Jesus regarded him and intoned: You have done well but there is something left. Go and sell all you have, give the money to the poor, come follow me. The young man of great wealth left sad...very sad indeed... I am a Catholic but Bishop Barron's circumbendibus, like Tony Lumpkin's, landed me some place - I don't know where... to start looking for a priest who might/would possibly advise me to stay where I am, according to Vatican II, priest who would likely take the same problem to Bishop Barron if he were in his diocese to determine... putting myself in the young Muslim lady's stead.. Would the Lord Jesus have left this young woman in a quandary to continue her search in this indeterminate manner, having encouraged another confused soul - she said so - to live some kind of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde practising Catholicism what part of the day and Protestantism what part of... goodness knows what... Is this the message you intended to pass to this parishioner - to practise Catholicism and Protestantism as with a clear conscience? Bishop Barron, you are an Apostle with the Magisterium in your hand, in you and behind you. You have no good reason to dither and leave hapless sheep and lambs who come to you for salvation to continue the search elsewhere. You are either hot or cold......The Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of God's Creation.
I really like the way "askcliffe" presents the Gospel to the college students. I think Bishop did not answer the question in a direct way which is confusing. While Cliffs run directly to the point and leave no room for vague explanation. Everyone has to come to the point that they realized God, the Truth. That point is the most crucial moment. The criteria that Cliffe set up to test all religions and belief system is amazing. I give him credit for that.
It takes humility to say: I don’t know if my religion is fact, but I’ve come to believe it is the best one to follow-so I’m betting on it being the right choice.
@@downenout8705 Someone’s right, but no one knows for certain, even though there are people out there that think they have the truth in the palms of their hands. Every belief has its reasons as to why it might be right. Our job is to choose what we think is right based on the reasons which we resonate with. It seems there is only one faith that is right, just like there is only one horse that’s going to win the race. It’s up to you to look at the horses and make your opinion about which is the fastest and place your bet.
@@jaceydurland9098 I personally have no interest in what "resonates" nor am I seeking "certainty". I simply follow the evidence wherever it might lead and proportion my confidence in the truth of a proposition based on the available evidence. I will only say that I believe something is true if I become convinced that I have enough evidence to justify that belief. I could still be mistaken, but that's the best that I can do and if I discover contrary evidence, I change my mind.
Jacques Maritain's book "Introduction to Philosophy" breaks down the different "religions" and how they deviated or where they went wrong in their view or pursuit of truth.
I love Bishops Barrons insights. That being said, I believe his math analogy with regard to other great religions of the world is misleading at best. I believe we needn't denigrate other folks, but truth is truth. I believe the other great religions of the world offer comparable morality teaching in their search for God, but access to God is through his Son, Jesus Christ and furthermore for the rational scholar is rooted in historical events that have been corroborated by non-religious sources. It isn't unkind to tell the truth, it needn't be insulting, there needn't be wars over such disagreements, but not telling truth isn't part of our earthly call to spread the word. Keep up the good work with these stimulating conversations.
Like C. S. Lewis said (and I'm going to butcher this quote), "The Christian doesn't need to believe the other religions are wrong on all points: he merely needs to believe that, where Christianity differs from other religions, Christianity is the one that is correct."
I am born and breed in the Catholic faith and grew up feeling there be none other until Jesus sort to promote me in his way chosen desirable to help me gather his truth of life according to God’s Word in relationship with the story of my life experiences. He took me on the high mountain in the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints, participating in everything with an honest and true heart with so much eagerness to learn of the truth in Jesus Christ prospective views that heals the brokenness of heart in the chastity way. And after 15 yrs of studying within, I gained a true testimony that yes, to me these are the only two Christian churches chosen to help gather Israel and build the kingdom of God. And deep inside me, I know it is true, and I am steadfast and persevering to reach the will of God in Jesus Christ name. Amen
“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have NO LIFE in you.” Peter - "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Authority.
@Three in One; I love my local parish but am very embarrassed being " Catholic" because I dread the questions i'm asked. So, 2 questions please; 1) Do you think the flamboyant popes actually believe they are the successors of a fisherman that dressed in rags ? And..2) the representative of Christ, who also dressed in rags but.....elevated the poor and women, slept out in the rain, told religious leaders exactly what He thought of them etc. ? 3) why did the early church fathers leave so much out of the New Testament. especially pertaining to the equality of the female half of God, but insert the Apostle Paul's inherent Hebrew invention of chauvanisim instead.? i just got done acumulating 130 verses in the old testament alone contradicting all Christian mens clubs. Thanks in advance :)
@@jimmyross4352 Thanks for the questions Jimmy, IMO, 1 & 2. No you shouldn’t be embarrassed about being Catholic, it’s a great blessing. Yes, you have a point about papal and Church regalia, and yes, these things can seem incongruous when looking at the life of Christ and his mission. The history of the pope’s lives and behaviour often embarrass and brings into disrepute the position as well. All true! Yes, they do believe they are the successors and if validly elected they are. So what to make of it? Well, most Christians don’t live Christ’s examples either, most don’t live an itinerant life, (numerous biblical references of which I’m sure you will be aware), They don’t walk around in rags from town to town begging for food and accommodation, preaching the Gospel. IF CIRCUMSTANCES ALLOW, they will have a fixed home, (house/apartment), a car, a job, clothes and chattels. They will accumulate a lifetime of possessions and only interact or share what faith they have in a relatively small way. (They won’t have given everything up to follow Christ). However, they, like the pope, will be judged by an impeccable source, with full knowledge, love and mercy for their actions, not the myopic narrow and blurred lens we look through. Over time all institutions develop a hierarchy and system of administration. The Church is no different, and certainly mirrors other institutions. Christ at the time didn’t have a billion followers to manage and administer. The clothing and Mass were developed over time, do they embarrass Christ, the Father and Spirit? Not sure, but if they were so anathema to God, then I’m sure he’d of done something about it over the last two thousand years. The position of the pope is the important part, not what he wears or who he is. The position has been given to Peter and his successors, the Keys by Christ, the authority to bind on earth and in heaven ..... We will have popes who will not show a good example, (Peter denied Christ three times..), this doesn’t diminish the position. They are human and as a human I’m sure you will be aware of the difficulty that brings, especially when measured against an exacting standard like Christianity. Judge not….. 3. Chauvinism and the New Testament (omissions?) Firstly, you fall into a protestant way of thinking when deciding what should and should not be in the New Testament. Don’t second guess the people who codified and complied the Canon of Scripture. This has been the downfall of the protestant mind and has led to thousands of sects and groups claiming they are the “TRUE” church. The early Church sorted all this out, you have the Canon, accept it. (If you can’t reconcile this, can you call yourself a Catholic?). The Bible as a subject is vast and can be like quicksand to the unweary, it’s best left to the Church to interpret and advise. Remember the Bible isn't the only source of teaching in the Catholic tradition, unlike the Biblicists, for whom it's everything. (Satan uses this to divert and destroy people’s faith and unity which has been shown throughout history). Pride - "i just got done acumulating 130 verses in the old testament alone contradicting......" Really? Chauvinism - Well, again you are looking through the myopic and blurred lens of a 21st Century person (I would say man, but you’ll probably be offended by that). What makes you right and those people wrong? Paul’s done more for Christianity than you ever will, (I’m guessing). Christ was a MAN, male not female - period; Christ stated his FATHER not mother - period. In today’s shape shifting, feminised culture it’s no wonder this is leading to confusion and disunity. Don’t think that the early Christians where fools or less than you are, they’re NOT, you owe them a huge debt of gratitude for the sacrifices they made. You owe them their efforts, their dedicated lives, their deaths. To judge them against a feminist doctrine and ideal is WRONG. These people are time served, and tested. You should be grateful to them and just hope you can come anywhere near their witness. (Did some not live up to the code? Of course, but do you? Can you hold you head high knowing that their isn’t something you could be pulled up on?) Yes, be proud to be a Catholic. Most if not all the critics wouldn’t last five minutes trying to live this life, just remember that. Peace be with you!
@@threeinone6977 thank you for you’re reply . I still don’t understand why if God said what he did in Gen. 1;26-28 alone why we’re not at least parts of the other 21 Gospels re/ women included, while Paul’s chauvinist remarks were? Some women ( My Mom for one) view this as condescending. If you’re response provided me with an answer for them I missed it . Thanks
@@jimmyross4352 Yep, you missed it! You are blinkered by 21st Century thinking, I'm guessing so is your mother. You are in fact saying that you know more than the people who compiled the Bible! The Canon stands, accept it. Modern Western society is victim based and led, this is a direct result of Radical Feminism, and the "Cult of the Female". Why are you concentrating on the female? There's a million and one things the bible can be criticised for and you pick women's rights? If you want to quote Genesis, how about this, Gen 3:16 “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labour you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” Notice the "rule over you" bit. If you're truly Catholic, get on with being one. Don't get bogged down with this distraction and it is a pernicious distraction. Good luck!
To me one of the most convincing evidences of the truth of the Catholic faith is that people who are not Catholics often simulate sacraments and Catholic religous practices by engaging in behaviors e.g professing creeds confessing ect. that are proof that human beings are ordered to worship God in ways that only find their fullness in the Catholic faith.
Thank you Brandon and bishop Baron for this difficult and challenging topic, yet you both seem to make it accessible, realistic and convincing. I will pray for Leila too and her family so may the Spirit of God lead her in her struggle and put on her path not only a priest but perhaps a sister, a nun and even a devout lay person who could guide her and pray with her for discernment. 🙏🙏🙏
A book I recommend, I know will strengthen one beliefs in God, Jesus, Blessed Mother, Guarding Angles & the Devil. Title is “The life of the servant of God, Gemma Galgani, an Italian maiden of Lucca” author Fr. Germanus . 450 pages. Got mine, shipped in from library, in Ohio. Good luck 🙏
Absolutely love this... we are called to preach the Gospel to all nations as part of an obligation... but we also should *want* and *desire* to preach that Gospel... it is not pushing an agenda or imposing our views... it is EVANGELIZATION!
My primary issue with catholicism is the tradition of confession. Our obligation is to Christ alone, and he alone is the one who provides forgiveness.... no man can do this. Not saying there isn't benefit to sharing with another or weaknesses and failings and receiving feedback, however, no man is in position of imparting forgiveness. Respectfully yours
As a searcher, I struggle with the basic questions. I ask myself, what seems more likely? That the real God exists in one of the thousands upon thousands of different religions that have existed over history? Or are the endless number of religions the result of mankind trying to fill the vacuum created by the absence of God? From my vantage point, it seems obvious that the answer is the latter. If one religion is true, then that means the overwhelming majority of humanity throughout history has, and continues to, worship non-existent Gods. It's irrefutable that mankind invents religions. All it takes is two or more religions that claim to be the exclusive truth. They can't both be right. The idea that God exists in one of them while the rest of humanity engages in made up religions has never sat right with me. While I truly appreciate Bishop Barrons thoughts and insights on this topic, it's very similar to responses I have received over the years in that it stretches to make vague connections between common elements among world religions without addressing the 50,000 pound elephant in the room. A broad allusion to some type of Universalism amongst all religions or a false religion serving as a "starting point" falls flat under the weight of how dramatically at odds they are with each other in terms of beliefs and practices. There are endless numbers of religions that are so far removed from one another, in such completely different paradigms, that they may as well exist on separate planets. For example, I juxtapose the Catholic Church with an uncontacted tribe in the rainforest who is unaware that anything exists beyond the horizon and most likely invokes animals and astronomical phenomenon as the touchstone of their religion. Ultimately, there is no crossover. Different planets. The other issue with there being one true religion, in this case Catholicism, is how many people it leaves out. If the way to God is thru the Catholic Church, then most of humanity has been set up for failure. A huge chunk of humanity lived and died before Catholicism even existed. For those people who were born after its establishment, most will not be Catholics. It just seems from where I'm standing that if there is a God, then He has not effectively communicated His identity to mankind. The endless diversity of religions demonstrates that clearly. God is distant enough that mankind still continues to slaughter one another because we can't even agree on His name. Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this. I always worry about how the written word is going to translate, and reading back I hope I don't seem snarky. That's not my posture towards this area of life at all. I respect all viewpoints that are conveyed with respect. I'm just really fascinated by life, never get tired of pondering the big questions. I really wish I had more peace in my life when it comes to God. I feel as though I have had glimpses, flashes of God throughout my life, but I struggle with it. You know what I don't struggle with? Eating Doritos. I love those things.
It's written in the Scripture that God spoke to every nation, Epistle to Romans clearly states that pagans knew God but failed to give God praise. There are elements of truth in every religion. I chose Christianity because it contains it all - is there God, yes there is. Is there place for individual? Yes there is. Is there place for meditation? Yes there is. Is there place for laws and theology? Yes there is. Is there place for justice? Yes there is. Is there place for mercy? Yes there is. Is there place for architecture, music and science? Yes there is. In other words, it seems in every other option there is something to lose but here, there is everything to gain. There is only one reason I find that would push me to leave it, and that is being unable to stand that it's not me who is god and that's it's not my standards to be taken as an absolute measure.
Whenever an atheist asks me, “Out of the thousands of religions in the world, what are the odds that Christianity happens to be the right one?”, I answer, “Slightly more than the odds that atheism happens to be the right one.” We can both play that game.
I am Greek Orthodox born and raised but have gone to the Catholic Church since married. Are you saying that the Eastern Rite that believes in the same tenets and has the same sacraments is not the One Church?
Eastern Catholics that use the Byzantine Rite are part of the Catholic Church, but the Eastern "Orthodox" are in schism and heresy and are not part of the formal structures of the true Church. They can only be united to the Mystical Body, or the soul of the Church, through baptism. Christ only founded one Church, not two or more.
In my opinion.. more than saying ‘my religion or your religion’ it’s about being in what we believe and we’re certain with all our heart IS THE TRUTH.. and not only because someone have told us that BUT because we believe/we know it comes from the same WORD OF GOD thought the revelations and mainly through Jesus Christ as the Son Of Hod or God made man. So if there’s a metaphysical truth (about eternal life or life after death) for us Christians that is the truth we believe in and therefore the truth we are after of.. so we believe In the words of Jesus.. “ I am the Way, the Truth and the Life” And that’s the religion (the way of being in rapport and relationship with him obeying and following his teachings and commandments. I feel each religion must know or find out what is the ‘ultimate goal or achievement’ they are after not merely for this material life but for the after life. God bless !
The fact that this question even needs to be asked, demonstrates that if God exists, he's a monumental failure a delivering a clear message to all mankind. No God would deliver a message by text because gaining concensus on what it means is nigh on impossible when dealing with the enourmous numbers of people reading the thing over many generations. The fact that a priest class is even needed to explain the damn thing to a commoner or sophisticated theology is needed just highlights the unintuitivness and unitelligibility of the book. So, instead of unity, we gets schisms and differing religions. The fact that he hasn't shown up to clear things up & correct his ineptitude, is even more devious. Apparently he is content with religious strife, confusion and the conflict that ensues. Any CEO who delivers a mandate that has half his workforce arguing and fighting over what it means, then fails to clarify or do anything about it, would be out on his ass. So the father here thinks he can justify why he's right with philosophy, logic and reason. Ye, and adherents of other religions claim to do exactly the same. There is no pathway for the outsider to objectively distinguish between the options when the methodology is the same but the outcome is different. It's really down to what feels right to you. Well great, nice to know that people's salvation lies at the heart of something as flimsy as that. And also the insistence of belief. Belief being a graduation point you arrive at when convinced of a proposition and not something you consciously control. So you are judged for things outside your control. This system is not the work of a good, omnipotent anything. It's the work of man.
As a direct result of listening to Bishop Barron for the last 5 years, I started the RCIA last week and attended Mass for the first time. I’m thrilled about this journey
Welcome, May God’s blessings be with you always. 🇨🇦🙏🙏🌹🇨🇦
My prayers for your total conversion into our catholic religion and eager to hear that you will be one more of Christ’s army soldiers 🙏😊
Gloria a Dios 🙏🏻
WELCOME!
I am so excited for you. I loved my confirmation class so much.
As a craddle Catholic, I feel more and more reassured that being Catholic is my first calling, and I am forever grateful to my parents that brought me to the sacraments.
I feel the same way, my faith is the greatest gift that my parents gave me.♥️😁
I should say that my parents showed/taught me. God gave me faith.
Rather say thank God I am a follower of Christ. The church is a spiritual nation of the holy people of God who were sanctified by the blood of the Lamb of God the Lord JESUS CHRIST ,see Daniel 7. Without holiness you cannot be a member of the catholic church.
@@christisgodd Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:10 There is none righteous, no not one. We are all sinners. If one has accepted Christ as their Savior and repented of their sins to HIM, and asked HIM into their heart, then they are SAVED and have eternal life through Jesus. We still sin being in the flesh, but we have the Holy Spirit dwelling in us and are ever struggling to live in the spirit, not in the flesh. None of us on Earth however (including the human Pope and all the people Catholicism beautifies into Saints...none of these people are holy or without sin). We are only sanctified by the blood of Jesus. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast
The Catholic Church says there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. This is NOT true. Actually, there is NO salvation outside of the Lord Jesus Christ. And please don't say that the Catholic Church is the body of Christ....not while many priests are preying on little boys without intervention from Catholic authorities. Please....my prayers go out for the many deluded good Catholics who truly want a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ yet are encouraged to pray to alleged saints and worship Mary as well. Jesus was clear that HE is the only intercessor between God and man. “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6).
As a convert to Roman Catholicism (23 years ago) from a fundamentalist Protestant tradition, I can tell you that Catholicism just makes sense in all its teachings. And the longer I'm a Catholic, the more I believe it just makes sense. Mind you that there are sinful people in the Church, but that does not make it untrue or meaningless.
God’s chosen people in the Old Testament, the Israelites, had corrupt kings and priests that presided over them at times. And God allowed this to happen despite the Israelites being his chosen people.
It’s the same with the Catholic Church. Just because the Church had corrupt leaders presiding over it at times - that is not proof that the Catholic Church is not the true church.
We cannot understand God’s plan, but for some reason he allows things like this to happen and usually it’s for our sanctification.
Amen
The church is not a hotel for saints. It is a hospital for sinners
That’s my first response too. It just makes sense.
@@frisco61 If I may, what makes sense about trusting that a 2000 year old book written during the bronze ages accurately depicts how our universe was created, to such an extent that you base your life around it? And isn't that same book filled with outlandish tales of the world being flooded (which disagrees with scientific findings in the geological record), or entire towns being raised from the dead, and tales of horrific vengeance by God on the people he created? Most of all, how does it "make sense" that God tortures his son in order to forgive the sins of mankind? Why would he need to torture anyone? And why is it that belief in Jesus saves you from damnation? Isn't that a terrible standard? So mass murderers who believe in Jesus go to heaven, while great men and humanitarians who are atheists go to hell?
Tell me, what about that makes sense to you?
I was baptized Catholic, raised and educated in Catholic religion. But lost my way. I came back just a few months
I love testimony like this. Tells you a lot of our faith.
Welcome back, Catherine Taylor! I drifted pretty far away myself and came back. One thing that I discovered that made me want to come back was that it is fascinating to learn about the saints in our Church. They are so fascinating to me and they have helped me to have a better understanding of what it means to know, and love and serve our Lord. They’re like big brothers and sisters in the faith and I really do believe that when we ask them to pray for us they do just that. One last thing: If you have the misfortune of coming across a “bad apple” in the Church (as I have) please don’t let this interfere with your own journey. Recognize the bad apples for what they are and stay close to our Lord. (And to our Lady 🌹).
Welcome home my sister in Christ!!!💚💚💚
I saw so many people like you
My husband has left the church. He has been led by false narrative on the history of the church. Please pray that he comes back.
Many of my dear friends are Catholic converts from other faith backgrounds.Islam, Protestants and Sikhism. The first steps for them was support from good friends, talking to the local catholic priests and attending Mass. The journey wasn't always easy, for them, but their love of Christ helped them overcome any challenges they had with family. My prayers are with you. God bless you. 🙏🙏🙏💕
basil bee,
Beware of a fake bishop out here.b
I am from India 🇮🇳born to a Catholic parents and grandparents ..and so proud ...I remember learning Catechism from CBC brothers from Ireland...attending church every Sunday with my MOM..then .. Sunday school , being taught about the church rules ..prayers by sisters of charity .....wow 😇🙏🙏...now in my 50s following Bishop Barron ....blessed 😇...praise God
@Christopher Jacob Hi Christopher, I am fascinated to hear from a Catholic from India! I wish that we could sit down for tea so I could hear from you about what that has been like for you. I’m so glad to hear that you are happy in your faith and I’m wondering if you or your loved ones have ever experienced suffering in India because of your religion? God bless you, my brother in Christ. I send you love from Connecticut ♥
@@Featherfinder 😊😊thanks so much.. may the Lord God bless you and your family members ..yes I would love to share my experiences growing up as a Catholic..😇
Praise the Lord
@christopher jacob - That is a wonderful memory! Thank you for sharing
@Margaret Corrigan I am too a 16 year old Catholic from India..but I live Mumbai..a pretty urban city..it is the north eastern side and rural area christians who face the most persecution..and it has increased now becuz of our gov being fundamentalist Hindus trying to make India a complete Hindu nation...its said the persecution will soon come get modern cities like Mumbai and Delhi..pls pray for our country
To the young Muslim lady who held doubts about converting to Catholicism, I would suggest e-mailing your local churches and explaining your situation. I'm sure you will find a priest who will be able to help you out, either through conversation by e-mail or an appointment in person. If you don't find a priest you connect with, keep trying until you do.
Follow your heart. Don't feel shy or self-conscious. I'm from London and doing catechism classes, and will be baptised at Easter. I had to message a few churches and talk through my doubts before reaching where I am now. I think it is brave of you to want to convert, and encourage you to carry on along the same path.
God bless.
May God bless you on your journey
@@frankjamesiii5362 Thank you very much James. God bless.
I pray for that lady that she gets all the support she needs and follows her heart , I pray the lord Jesus Christ sends blessings down upon her and all her family, friends and associates.🙏🙏
Islam doesn’t allow apostasy. Your ancestor committed his bloodline to Islam for eternity.
A moslem who leaves Islam disrespects his ancestor, and violates the 4th commandment. If Islam is the true religion, he goes to hell for apostasy. If Christianity is the true religion, he goes to hell for not honoring his ancestor.
Either way, he goes to hell if he converts from Islam to Christianity.
Whereas if he stays with Islam, at least he gets a chance to go to heaven if Islam is the true religion.
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Bishop Barron your Word on Fire evangelization is so important in my life. My mom filled you and she bequeathed her joy in listening to you, to her family. You have been a daily part of my life for almost four years. I can say it has been amazing and life changing as for my spiritual development. God bless and I will keep you in my prayers!
I call myself an aspiring Catholic. I haven't made to a Mass. Yet. Due to some social anxiety so social media plug in ie Bishop Baron is God send.
Pick the church, choose the mass, and make it important to go.
1 hour of your day could be meaningful and helpful. Why be anxious?
Hi Scott Scott. Don't worry about going to mass. It's not like protestant church where people are going to come up and hug you and make you stand up and introduce yourself as a first timer....none of that nonsense. Catholics go to mass to worship God, not for social hour. Just quietly slip in, sit in the back, focus on God and take it. I wish you the best my friend.
Pick a weekday Mass. These are generally less attended. You don't have to worry about not knowing what to do. As a non-Catholic you are not expected to know what to do or what is going on.
There are a number of "Teaching Mass" videos on RUclips that explain, often in simple terms, what exactly is happening at every part of the Mass. Watch one or two of these videos before you go.
I hope this helps.
Hi Scott. I’m Roman Catholic and I also have social anxiety disorder and also PTSD. What worked for me was to attend a weekday Mass where usually there aren’t as many people. But, I still had some level of anxiety, so I just made up my mind to pick a Sunday Mass and just go. My anxiety dissipated after I knelt and began to pray before Mass. No one there put any pressure on me and they respected my personal space. After that first Mass, it was all good. I love the Catholic Church and it was definitely worth feeling stressed for a little while to get there. As another commenter said, it’s not like a Protestant church. Ask God to help you and He will. May you be blessed on your journey. I’ll say an Ave Maria for you. 💕🙏🙏🙏🕯️🕊️🌷
I'll pray for you to overcome this fear. Remember that the Mass is about encountering Christ, not the people sat around you.
Lovely conversation with Bishop Barron on a very touchy and sensitive topic. Well presented and good points shared. Brandon moderated the episode so well. Truly blessed to be born and raised a Roman Catholic and to get the chance to live my faith and be faithful to God always.
*"You can with reason show that many of the tenets of Catholic Christianity are correct, are rationally defensible."* - BISHOP ROBERT BARRON
And exactly how is that quote worthy of bold font?? All major religions can meet this standard because they've all had their share of scholars to shore up their theology. As christianity sinks to this level which parallels the stuff "american exceptionalism", it is already dead on arrival.
"Reason" is no substitute for "evidence" and RB, as always, offers zero empirical evidence to support the truth of 1 Corinthians 15: 14.
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To my knowledge, fonts classifications do not have labels 'worthy', not worthy. I am not from America, and I do not find your comment worthy of not just American but of any nationality.
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Perhaps you missed the title of the video. If not clear listen to the introduction. The show has successfully presented the expected theme.
@@marypinakat8594 I never said that RB didn't "successfully" present "the expected theme", did I. I say again, if you are going to reply to my comment please at least have the courtesy to respond to what is actually written.
Full Reception into the Church
( left friends..distant from family)
Divine Mercy April 2022. 64 years of age
Birthplace. Chicago,IL
(Yes, Bishop Barron was one of my resources in making my decision)
Bishop Barron thank-you for serving our LORD
My attraction to Catholicism ?
Learn more about Jesus Christ
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I asked God once for a sign that our faith was real and I did get a validation that was meaningful to me...this topic is so timely.....thank you Fr Barron.
But, people have felt they got the same validation for all the other religions too
@@BrendanBeckett
Will they also prove it?
Here's a sign ... Tomorrow, February 14th., 2023 is the Lunar Sabbath from God's PERFECT calendar. You might like to break from the Genesis 36:2 calendars: Cana'an/Julian or Esau/Gregorian ...
I was at a point where I didn't know which religion was right, so I asked God which one is right, and he told me Catholicism, I'm coming into communion with Rome this Easter vigil
@@BrendanBeckett Poor atheists get no validation.
I am Catholic. But I haven't always been Catholic. Humility is what keeps me coming back. And Humility keeps me in dialog with people who believe different from what I believe.
To Lela: hope everything works out. Prayers. Thank you for considering being a Catholic Christian.
"Humility" is no substitute for "evidence".
Beautiful comment⭐
@@downenout8705 😂🤣
Humility allows us to consider and accept evidence without drowning it out with pride.
@@tracybrophy6767 All things work for those who love Him. (Scripturally Speaking)
Bishop Barron's opening statement says it all!
May God bless you, Brandon for your service!
In our Catholic Church, we have mother of God , we have saints, we have Eucharist, on and on……
Muchas gracias Padre, que sabio es!!! saludos desde México
I hope the trip to London becomes a Blessing for you all🌹🧿💃
Definitely praying for this young Lady 🙏
Listen to your heart ♥ where God resides. GOD BLESS ❣️
I was born in India and have been exposed mainly to Hindu and Muslim lifestyles and traditions. I have had the advantage of information and perspective of strong religious angles. And It's only lent me the ability to deepen my relationship with the Catholic faith. So in a sense, I got lucky, to have been born/raised and baptized in this faith that I, myself, have taken for granted. And by no means do I now take credit for either. But some generations ago a community was founded and one of those community members happened to be my ancestor. It does and has made me wonder about the strength of my faith. Which had all the odds stacked against itself being that it was surrounded by predominantly Hindus and yet there was a yearning and room for Jesus’s words and message of salvation. And here I'm in continuation of that faith. Going strong. I think there's something more than the effects of traditions there. There are many that are actual traditions that i don't make it a point to keep. But something special of the faith linked to Christ our savior. It is indeed a very special link and lifestyle.
@Ad X religion is historically & culturally bound, each and every one. Choose the wisdom that speaks to you from them all & realize you're a human with a FREE thinking mind who doesn't need to be brainwashed by any religion but feel what speaks to you as an individual, then you can live your personal truth instead of being a regurgitating robot of scripture.
My heart hurts for Leila. I, too will pray for her. Blessings from Kansas~
Indeed, praying for Divine Providence in Leila’s life.❤
Bishop Barron , Thank you so much for NOT dumbing it down, I have learned so much from you over that last several years, and this video is one more superb example. Thank you and God Bless you!
Dear Bishop Baron
Happy to hear you are visiting London.
I was in London last year and I so surprised to a lot of Christian group and we’re trying to ask me to join them.
But I said I have just attended mass in the Catholic Church and they insist that I join them.
But so as not to offend I sat with the family and had a chat .
They read the bible and knows in detail the new testament and the Old Testament
But they do not believe in the blessedVirgin and question for venerating the saints
I really wish they would join the Catholic Church.
Beautiful talk with serious questions! Thank you. God bless you, bishop Barron!
Thsnkyou, from Gail
I'm not against Catholic Christianity but I'm not an Catholic. I've listened to Bishop Robert Barron and he makes good arguments for the Christian faith along with William Lane Craig & Frank Turek.
Pope John XXIII said “Isn’t it wonderful that the walls that divide us do not reach to Heaven.”
@@russellmiles2861 I hope you’re not under the impression that you “don’t need heaven”, Russell Miles. Because humans don’t come to an end when they die.
@@russellmiles2861 Whom "doesn't need" heaven? You'll be shitting your pants if you don't end up there, son. Haha.
Great questions Brandon and great answers Bishop. 🙏❤
Thank you Bishop Barron and Brandon, may GOD bless both of you abundantly. ➕ ❤
Christianity is Catholicism and Catholicism is Christianity, for all intents and purposes, since the grace from Jesus fully subsists in the Catholic Church.
Yes, I agreed 👍 with you Bishop. I inlove ♥️ being a Catholic Church because of the Holy Eucharist( body and blood of Christ). Aside from that others sacrament. I recite the "Creed" with all my ❤️ heart and show it through my actions. It's so challenging to me because my own Earthly husband is a Protestant Christian. I keep on defending my Catholic faith in a nice way with calm to my husband. We have little bit misunderstanding but he avoided to argue with me. I keep on asking God to send us His Holy Spirit from now and then in my daily life and to my family. Thanks a lot Bishop Barron! God bless you both Brandon and Bishop! God bless us all! Praise God! Amen.
Leela if you're reading this, I'm praying for you
God bless Bishop Barron, the way he articulates the complexities of the faith in such a clear and thoughtful manner what a heavy cross to carry having to undertake this task.
Barron is a heretic wolf in sheep clothing. He said there are many ways to get to Heaven but Christ is the preferred way.
The anthropologist Joseph Campbell said it well at the end of the Bill Moyers interviews: " if I chose a religion it would be Catholocism."
I doubt Joseph Campbell said that considering most of his Theology was non Catholic based on Jungian archetypes and Eastern Religions.
Appreciate Bishop Barron's discussion on how to have a good religious argument.
Wonderful, thanks to both of you. Just loved listening.
@@bernardevillaw3410 hearing you , truly hearing you . ❤️
A great book that is very relevant here is Dinesh D'Souza's What is So Great About Christianity. In it he tackles that question about there being 4000+ religions. He boils them down pretty quickly and sees many of them not as religions, but rather philosophy or cultural expressions. So, that number of actual religions falls dramatically. Then when you start to look for eternal truth that is applicable to every human on the planet you quickly come to monotheism and then he breaks it down further from there. It's a good read and pretty straight forward, it might not be exactly in the Catholic tradition but pretty close.
I would be a little wary of a book that "boils down" that many spiritual traditions in just a couple pages lol
If Bp Baron thinks soccer is boring then welcome to England the land of cricket!
As always, a complete, calm and understandable answer to this complex question
Indeed, and succeeding in less than half an hour is an achievement⭐
Calm and understandable, but not complete
@@charlescatterall949
The topic deserves Volumes perhaps, but for half an hour it's more than complete ⭐⭐
"Complete", you can't seriously believe that something that is almost completely devoid of evidence is complete.
@@downenout8705
The video is titled "Why is Your Religion the Right One?" and the discussion did aim at answering it. There wasn't any promise of proving something.
The spiritual and physical feeding episodes of God... wedding in Cana... God bless Word on Fire... Mabuhay Bishop Barron and the entire cast and crew...
bro just answered this by saying 'Because it is'
Leila, all the best with your conversion. I hope you have found the support that Bishop Barron suggested. God bless you. I will pray tonight for you and your family shall the Holy Spirit guide your next steps and for your family shall they discern what is truth vs what is not.
As a Cradle Catholic, Im beyond grateful to the Lord that our nation Philippines is chosen by God for being a Catholic Country!! 🙏🏻✨♥️
not chosen by God, deceived by the adversary
@@rlrett1 Matthew 5:13
Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
@@chinitapink8074 and????
I love the analogy of solving a difficult maths problem
Just because someone was born into a religion, it doesn't make that religion false.
If Laila is reading, I’d say that the first step is to include your mother and your family in your questions and thoughts. Don’t just convert and then surprise them a big announcement later. Show your family that you take these questions very seriously and give them a chance to win you back. Be open, patient, loving, and honest. Maybe include your mother in your catechesis. Talk about where Islam and Catholicism intersect, find points of commonality.
Laila would admit that it is more complicated than rational thinking. May the Holy Spirit guide and protect us, Laila
They do not intersect
Leila, I am praying for you.
This one will be good!
The Son-of-God touches our hearts each day.....we just need to be aware and listen.👼
I have always believed the Catholic faith . I have not always lived it though. I have turned back to God, and am listening to a Christian Bible. The fact that the Blessed Mother Mary is not recognized REALLY surprised and pffended me!
A Facebook meme says something to the effect of, "In the course of history, humans have believed in millions of different gods - gods you Christians also reject. I simply believe in one less god than you." This strikes me as fairly obviously flawed. Firstly, it's not just in matters of religion that there is an enormous spectrum of belief or opinion. There are innumerable positions in the various forms of political discourse, for example. Just because humans cannot agree on a single political philosophy does not mean that anybody who has a political opinion is therefore a fool. Many an atheist would be insulted to be told that their political opinions are idiotic simply because there are lots of other political opinions out there.
But Bishop Barron rightly draws attention to the glaring example of an excluded middle: just because I believe that I have found the one true faith does not mean that all other faiths are wholly devoid of truth (even though some Christians have asserted exactly that). How could Thomas Aquinas have accorded such respect to the pagan, Aristotle, if he thought that there was no truth at all outside the boundaries of the Christian religion? It is one of the flaws of Puritanism that it thought that Christianity was somehow polluted (and thereby invalidated) if it accepted the possibility that non-Christians (and non-Puritans) could speak the truth.
My Grand Father is at Heaven
Thank you Bishop Barron.
Thank you Brendon too.
Enjoyable and interesting.
Have a wonderful blessed, happy life and enjoyable Holy Lent.
Amen Glory to God in the Highest level of Love forever. ❤❤❤😁
“Christ's Church has no intention of yielding ground to her avowed enemy, atheistic socialism/communism, without a struggle. This battle will be fought to the end, but with the weapons of Christ!” Pope Pious XII 1957
Maybe you mentioned it near the end.
But first thing and last thing is:
Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church with St. Peter and we can trace our lineage down throughout history.
Jesus said to His apostles, remember, you have not chosen me, but I have chosen you.
Those born into the Catholic faith have indeed been blessed but many take this blessing for granted and waste it. How blessed are those who truly convert to Catholicism from a different faith.
There ought to be laws protecting citizens from religious authority flooding. An example is a person who attends kingdom hall in victoria British Columbia pulling strings for some one in Terrace British Columbia to effect the result of an investigation.
Yes I think that's the most helpful way to put it, that you believe your religion to be a 'fuller expression of the truth', and that all the major traditions are close to that truth, and not simply wrong, and you're sincerely speaking from a considered position that has been very well informed by a variety of critiques and self doubts, fully considered, and expressed with love. That is fair enough I think. I still don't think any of us can actually totally remove elements of cultural conditioning and confirmation bias, we're all somewhat rationalising what we've been given, and effectively saying this is my culture and my tradition, and it makes more sense for me to be a flavour of that than to completely up root myself from it and plunge totally into something different, assuming it's basically justifiable to me. I was brought up in a strong pacifist version of Christianity, Quakerism, and one that values silence and simplicity. I can see great merit in more colourful traditions, but I also see that I value peace, silence and simplicity because that tradition makes that very real to me. That's not just an argument I can make to someone else, it's a lived experience I can only hope to draw you towards, and at certain point it's highly likely that it will only draw you in if it's expressing something that you already have some sympathy for, so to a degree it makes sense to me that we all find a place that right for us, even within any one tradition.
I was scrolling through these comments hoping to find one as intelligent as yours. Thank you. No one can answer this question “fully” without saying what you just said.
What a beautiful, loving response to Lela. ♥️ I'm praying for you, Lela. 🙏
“I just think soccer is the most boring sport in the world to watch. The field is too big. There’s no action. They just seem to be wandering around.”
-Bishop Barron speaking 100% truth
We will devote another episode for this argument 😂. for now, let’s focus on the core of this.
Like most Americans Bp Barron loves instant gratification in sport. Nothing wrong with that but there are other philosophies. Soccer is only called soccer in the US. Everywhere else soccer is “football”. “Football” fans watch the constant struggle on the field, the thrill of expectation, the pathos of disappointment and keeping hope alive through setbacks. They participate in an epic journey. We are all prisoners to our culture in some way. It does not matter in a spectator sport. But it’s instructive in how much our lives are directed by culture and habit.
I played American football my entire life, (had pro try-outs) never liked soccer for Bishops reasons, however I tried watching the World Cup 10 years ago, and really enjoy it now and find it extremely exciting 😊👍🏻
Converting to Catholicism from Islam/Muslim will take time and sacrifice, ultimately giving up your family to follow Jesus which is one of his challenges to us if we want salvation. To give up your wealth by giving it to the poor is a tough example but as an adult, one must make a decision and be prepared for the consequences. Weigh what is really important to you...
A young man came and placed his pious platitude before Jesus... how he had kept all the laws expecting Jesus to pat him on the shoulder and say 'well done good servant you have done all there is to do. Relax and wait for your crown of glory'. But the Lord Jesus regarded him and intoned: You have done well but there is something left. Go and sell all you have, give the money to the poor, come follow me. The young man of great wealth left sad...very sad indeed... I am a Catholic but Bishop Barron's circumbendibus, like Tony Lumpkin's, landed me some place - I don't know where... to start looking for a priest who might/would possibly advise me to stay where I am, according to Vatican II, priest who would likely take the same problem to Bishop Barron if he were in his diocese to determine... putting myself in the young Muslim lady's stead.. Would the Lord Jesus have left this young woman in a quandary to continue her search in this indeterminate manner, having encouraged another confused soul - she said so - to live some kind of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde practising Catholicism what part of the day and Protestantism what part of... goodness knows what... Is this the message you intended to pass to this parishioner - to practise Catholicism and Protestantism as with a clear conscience? Bishop Barron, you are an Apostle with the Magisterium in your hand, in you and behind you. You have no good reason to dither and leave hapless sheep and lambs who come to you for salvation to continue the search elsewhere. You are either hot or cold......The Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of God's Creation.
I really like the way "askcliffe" presents the Gospel to the college students. I think Bishop did not answer the question in a direct way which is confusing. While Cliffs run directly to the point and leave no room for vague explanation. Everyone has to come to the point that they realized God, the Truth. That point is the most crucial moment. The criteria that Cliffe set up to test all religions and belief system is amazing. I give him credit for that.
'Right' 'True' 'Correct'; I'd suggest a 6 hour seminar on each of these words as a supplement to this helpful presentation.
Thank you for Word on Fire Show!Blessing&Love😍🌏🖐
It takes humility to say: I don’t know if my religion is fact, but I’ve come to believe it is the best one to follow-so I’m betting on it being the right choice.
What if the Muslims have bet on the right choice?
@@downenout8705 I have my perspective and they have theirs. If they're right then they're right.
@@jaceydurland9098 Not a problem if, like me, you don't believe that your eternal "soul" is your "stake".
@@downenout8705 Someone’s right, but no one knows for certain, even though there are people out there that think they have the truth in the palms of their hands. Every belief has its reasons as to why it might be right. Our job is to choose what we think is right based on the reasons which we resonate with. It seems there is only one faith that is right, just like there is only one horse that’s going to win the race. It’s up to you to look at the horses and make your opinion about which is the fastest and place your bet.
@@jaceydurland9098 I personally have no interest in what "resonates" nor am I seeking "certainty".
I simply follow the evidence wherever it might lead and proportion my confidence in the truth of a proposition based on the available evidence. I will only say that I believe something is true if I become convinced that I have enough evidence to justify that belief.
I could still be mistaken, but that's the best that I can do and if I discover contrary evidence, I change my mind.
Reasonable, intuitive, lovely. Thank you Father.
What of the millions who have not the benefit of education and deep thinking. They cannot grasp the tough concepts. But they are good people.
Goa India and Catholic
Jacques Maritain's book "Introduction to Philosophy" breaks down the different "religions" and how they deviated or where they went wrong in their view or pursuit of truth.
Lila you are going to be in my prayers. God bless you. Pray to the holy spirit to guide your steps.
I love Bishops Barrons insights. That being said, I believe his math analogy with regard to other great religions of the world is misleading at best. I believe we needn't denigrate other folks, but truth is truth. I believe the other great religions of the world offer comparable morality teaching in their search for God, but access to God is through his Son, Jesus Christ and furthermore for the rational scholar is rooted in historical events that have been corroborated by non-religious sources. It isn't unkind to tell the truth, it needn't be insulting, there needn't be wars over such disagreements, but not telling truth isn't part of our earthly call to spread the word. Keep up the good work with these stimulating conversations.
Like C. S. Lewis said (and I'm going to butcher this quote), "The Christian doesn't need to believe the other religions are wrong on all points: he merely needs to believe that, where Christianity differs from other religions, Christianity is the one that is correct."
I am born and breed in the Catholic faith and grew up feeling there be none other until Jesus sort to promote me in his way chosen desirable to help me gather his truth of life according to God’s Word in relationship with the story of my life experiences. He took me on the high mountain in the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints, participating in everything with an honest and true heart with so much eagerness to learn of the truth in Jesus Christ prospective views that heals the brokenness of heart in the chastity way. And after 15 yrs of studying within, I gained a true testimony that yes, to me these are the only two Christian churches chosen to help gather Israel and build the kingdom of God. And deep inside me, I know it is true, and I am steadfast and persevering to reach the will of God in Jesus Christ name. Amen
Thank you Bishop Barron
Any "religion" that brings you closer to God is the right religion for you.
“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have NO LIFE in you.” Peter - "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Authority.
@Three in One; I love my local parish but am very embarrassed being " Catholic" because I dread the questions i'm asked. So, 2 questions please; 1) Do you think the flamboyant popes actually believe they are the successors of a fisherman that dressed in rags ? And..2) the representative of Christ, who also dressed in rags but.....elevated the poor and women, slept out in the rain, told religious leaders exactly what He thought of them etc. ? 3) why did the early church fathers leave so much out of the New Testament. especially pertaining to the equality of the female half of God, but insert the Apostle Paul's inherent Hebrew invention of chauvanisim instead.? i just got done acumulating 130 verses in the old testament alone contradicting all Christian mens clubs. Thanks in advance :)
@@jimmyross4352 Thanks for the questions Jimmy, IMO,
1 & 2. No you shouldn’t be embarrassed about being Catholic, it’s a great blessing. Yes, you have a point about papal and Church regalia, and yes, these things can seem incongruous when looking at the life of Christ and his mission. The history of the pope’s lives and behaviour often embarrass and brings into disrepute the position as well. All true! Yes, they do believe they are the successors and if validly elected they are.
So what to make of it? Well, most Christians don’t live Christ’s examples either, most don’t live an itinerant life, (numerous biblical references of which I’m sure you will be aware), They don’t walk around in rags from town to town begging for food and accommodation, preaching the Gospel.
IF CIRCUMSTANCES ALLOW, they will have a fixed home, (house/apartment), a car, a job, clothes and chattels. They will accumulate a lifetime of possessions and only interact or share what faith they have in a relatively small way. (They won’t have given everything up to follow Christ).
However, they, like the pope, will be judged by an impeccable source, with full knowledge, love and mercy for their actions, not the myopic narrow and blurred lens we look through.
Over time all institutions develop a hierarchy and system of administration. The Church is no different, and certainly mirrors other institutions. Christ at the time didn’t have a billion followers to manage and administer. The clothing and Mass were developed over time, do they embarrass Christ, the Father and Spirit? Not sure, but if they were so anathema to God, then I’m sure he’d of done something about it over the last two thousand years.
The position of the pope is the important part, not what he wears or who he is. The position has been given to Peter and his successors, the Keys by Christ, the authority to bind on earth and in heaven ..... We will have popes who will not show a good example, (Peter denied Christ three times..), this doesn’t diminish the position. They are human and as a human I’m sure you will be aware of the difficulty that brings, especially when measured against an exacting standard like Christianity. Judge not…..
3. Chauvinism and the New Testament (omissions?)
Firstly, you fall into a protestant way of thinking when deciding what should and should not be in the New Testament. Don’t second guess the people who codified and complied the Canon of Scripture. This has been the downfall of the protestant mind and has led to thousands of sects and groups claiming they are the “TRUE” church. The early Church sorted all this out, you have the Canon, accept it. (If you can’t reconcile this, can you call yourself a Catholic?). The Bible as a subject is vast and can be like quicksand to the unweary, it’s best left to the Church to interpret and advise. Remember the Bible isn't the only source of teaching in the Catholic tradition, unlike the Biblicists, for whom it's everything. (Satan uses this to divert and destroy people’s faith and unity which has been shown throughout history). Pride - "i just got done acumulating 130 verses in the old testament alone contradicting......" Really?
Chauvinism - Well, again you are looking through the myopic and blurred lens of a 21st Century person (I would say man, but you’ll probably be offended by that). What makes you right and those people wrong? Paul’s done more for Christianity than you ever will, (I’m guessing).
Christ was a MAN, male not female - period; Christ stated his FATHER not mother - period. In today’s shape shifting, feminised culture it’s no wonder this is leading to confusion and disunity.
Don’t think that the early Christians where fools or less than you are, they’re NOT, you owe them a huge debt of gratitude for the sacrifices they made. You owe them their efforts, their dedicated lives, their deaths. To judge them against a feminist doctrine and ideal is WRONG. These people are time served, and tested. You should be grateful to them and just hope you can come anywhere near their witness. (Did some not live up to the code? Of course, but do you? Can you hold you head high knowing that their isn’t something you could be pulled up on?)
Yes, be proud to be a Catholic. Most if not all the critics wouldn’t last five minutes trying to live this life, just remember that. Peace be with you!
Someone said if you find a church with no sinners, join it. Hot possible. Jesus made Peter the first pope even it he denied Him.
@@threeinone6977 thank you for you’re reply . I still don’t understand why if God said what he did in Gen. 1;26-28 alone why we’re not at least parts of the other 21 Gospels re/ women included, while Paul’s chauvinist remarks were? Some women ( My Mom for one) view this as condescending. If you’re response provided me with an answer for them I missed it . Thanks
@@jimmyross4352 Yep, you missed it! You are blinkered by 21st Century thinking, I'm guessing so is your mother. You are in fact saying that you know more than the people who compiled the Bible! The Canon stands, accept it. Modern Western society is victim based and led, this is a direct result of Radical Feminism, and the "Cult of the Female". Why are you concentrating on the female? There's a million and one things the bible can be criticised for and you pick women's rights?
If you want to quote Genesis, how about this, Gen 3:16
“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labour you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”
Notice the "rule over you" bit. If you're truly Catholic, get on with being one. Don't get bogged down with this distraction and it is a pernicious distraction. Good luck!
To me one of the most convincing evidences of the truth of the Catholic faith is that people who are not Catholics often simulate sacraments and Catholic religous practices by engaging in behaviors e.g professing creeds confessing ect. that are proof that human beings are ordered to worship God in ways that only find their fullness in the Catholic faith.
Thank you Brandon and bishop Baron for this difficult and challenging topic, yet you both seem to make it accessible, realistic and convincing. I will pray for Leila too and her family so may the Spirit of God lead her in her struggle and put on her path not only a priest but perhaps a sister, a nun and even a devout lay person who could guide her and pray with her for discernment. 🙏🙏🙏
Because I pray God will put me in the church he wants me in! I am a Methodist at this time!
Book of ACTS is the beginning of the church and is the best way to learn truth
A book I recommend, I know will strengthen one beliefs in God, Jesus, Blessed Mother, Guarding Angles & the Devil. Title is “The life of the servant of God, Gemma Galgani, an Italian maiden of Lucca” author Fr. Germanus . 450 pages. Got mine, shipped in from library, in Ohio. Good luck 🙏
Thank your to continue to inspire us!
Absolutely love this... we are called to preach the Gospel to all nations as part of an obligation... but we also should *want* and *desire* to preach that Gospel... it is not pushing an agenda or imposing our views... it is EVANGELIZATION!
HAHAHAHA he had me at the first line!! We can have good conversations and arguments about religion without killing each other. 😍🤩
My primary issue with catholicism is the tradition of confession. Our obligation is to Christ alone, and he alone is the one who provides forgiveness.... no man can do this. Not saying there isn't benefit to sharing with another or weaknesses and failings and receiving feedback, however, no man is in position of imparting forgiveness. Respectfully yours
Mature certainty, or its approximation, doesn't entail a rejection of pluralism.
As a searcher, I struggle with the basic questions. I ask myself, what seems more likely? That the real God exists in one of the thousands upon thousands of different religions that have existed over history? Or are the endless number of religions the result of mankind trying to fill the vacuum created by the absence of God? From my vantage point, it seems obvious that the answer is the latter. If one religion is true, then that means the overwhelming majority of humanity throughout history has, and continues to, worship non-existent Gods. It's irrefutable that mankind invents religions. All it takes is two or more religions that claim to be the exclusive truth. They can't both be right. The idea that God exists in one of them while the rest of humanity engages in made up religions has never sat right with me.
While I truly appreciate Bishop Barrons thoughts and insights on this topic, it's very similar to responses I have received over the years in that it stretches to make vague connections between common elements among world religions without addressing the 50,000 pound elephant in the room. A broad allusion to some type of Universalism amongst all religions or a false religion serving as a "starting point" falls flat under the weight of how dramatically at odds they are with each other in terms of beliefs and practices. There are endless numbers of religions that are so far removed from one another, in such completely different paradigms, that they may as well exist on separate planets. For example, I juxtapose the Catholic Church with an uncontacted tribe in the rainforest who is unaware that anything exists beyond the horizon and most likely invokes animals and astronomical phenomenon as the touchstone of their religion. Ultimately, there is no crossover. Different planets.
The other issue with there being one true religion, in this case Catholicism, is how many people it leaves out. If the way to God is thru the Catholic Church, then most of humanity has been set up for failure. A huge chunk of humanity lived and died before Catholicism even existed. For those people who were born after its establishment, most will not be Catholics. It just seems from where I'm standing that if there is a God, then He has not effectively communicated His identity to mankind. The endless diversity of religions demonstrates that clearly. God is distant enough that mankind still continues to slaughter one another because we can't even agree on His name.
Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this. I always worry about how the written word is going to translate, and reading back I hope I don't seem snarky. That's not my posture towards this area of life at all. I respect all viewpoints that are conveyed with respect. I'm just really fascinated by life, never get tired of pondering the big questions. I really wish I had more peace in my life when it comes to God. I feel as though I have had glimpses, flashes of God throughout my life, but I struggle with it. You know what I don't struggle with? Eating Doritos. I love those things.
It's written in the Scripture that God spoke to every nation, Epistle to Romans clearly states that pagans knew God but failed to give God praise.
There are elements of truth in every religion. I chose Christianity because it contains it all - is there God, yes there is. Is there place for individual? Yes there is. Is there place for meditation? Yes there is. Is there place for laws and theology? Yes there is. Is there place for justice? Yes there is. Is there place for mercy? Yes there is. Is there place for architecture, music and science? Yes there is.
In other words, it seems in every other option there is something to lose but here, there is everything to gain.
There is only one reason I find that would push me to leave it, and that is being unable to stand that it's not me who is god and that's it's not my standards to be taken as an absolute measure.
I prayed for Layla (sp?) too.
Glory be to God.
Because my belief and faith is NO RELIGION at all
Whenever an atheist asks me, “Out of the thousands of religions in the world, what are the odds that Christianity happens to be the right one?”, I answer, “Slightly more than the odds that atheism happens to be the right one.”
We can both play that game.
I am Greek Orthodox born and raised but have gone to the Catholic Church since married. Are you saying that the Eastern Rite that believes in the same tenets and has the same sacraments is not the One Church?
Eastern Catholics that use the Byzantine Rite are part of the Catholic Church, but the Eastern "Orthodox" are in schism and heresy and are not part of the formal structures of the true Church. They can only be united to the Mystical Body, or the soul of the Church, through baptism. Christ only founded one Church, not two or more.
The Eastern Rite Catholic Church is in full communion with Rome.
Soccer fans don’t threaten you with eternal punishment for not liking soccer.
Nice haircut, Bishop
Thank you 🙏🙏
In my opinion.. more than saying ‘my religion or your religion’ it’s about being in what we believe and we’re certain with all our heart IS THE TRUTH.. and not only because someone have told us that BUT because we believe/we know it comes from the same WORD OF GOD thought the revelations and mainly through Jesus Christ as the Son Of Hod or God made man.
So if there’s a metaphysical truth (about eternal life or life after death) for us Christians that is the truth we believe in and therefore the truth we are after of.. so we believe In the words of Jesus.. “ I am the Way, the Truth and the Life”
And that’s the religion (the way of being in rapport and relationship with him obeying and following his teachings and commandments.
I feel each religion must know or find out what is the ‘ultimate goal or achievement’ they are after not merely for this material life but for the after life.
God bless !
The fact that this question even needs to be asked, demonstrates that if God exists, he's a monumental failure a delivering a clear message to all mankind. No God would deliver a message by text because gaining concensus on what it means is nigh on impossible when dealing with the enourmous numbers of people reading the thing over many generations. The fact that a priest class is even needed to explain the damn thing to a commoner or sophisticated theology is needed just highlights the unintuitivness and unitelligibility of the book. So, instead of unity, we gets schisms and differing religions. The fact that he hasn't shown up to clear things up & correct his ineptitude, is even more devious. Apparently he is content with religious strife, confusion and the conflict that ensues. Any CEO who delivers a mandate that has half his workforce arguing and fighting over what it means, then fails to clarify or do anything about it, would be out on his ass.
So the father here thinks he can justify why he's right with philosophy, logic and reason. Ye, and adherents of other religions claim to do exactly the same. There is no pathway for the outsider to objectively distinguish between the options when the methodology is the same but the outcome is different. It's really down to what feels right to you. Well great, nice to know that people's salvation lies at the heart of something as flimsy as that. And also the insistence of belief. Belief being a graduation point you arrive at when convinced of a proposition and not something you consciously control. So you are judged for things outside your control. This system is not the work of a good, omnipotent anything. It's the work of man.
Well it isn't depending on who you speek with...
Hi Brandon
Praise