Karen Read trial: Canton police fallout and jury questions
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- The defense for Karen Read is continuing its push for two charges to be dismissed after her attorneys say jurors came forward with new information about their verdict.
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The judge was horrible and biased from day one. This whole case is a total sham.
Yes 💯💯💯 Corrupt Juge
Absurd
@@bethmccrae2714 Lol. K
disHonorable Beverley, and the whole wide world knows.
FBI needs to investigate as well as CIA. No locals should be on jury, and a Supreme Court judge should be there.
It is utterly bonkers that this jury were not polled by the Judge.
The Judge is a disaster and its scandalous that she has allowed a trial to unfold like this.
Judge doesn't have to poll the jury if neither side request for it.
She very well may have polled the jury, privately.
The judge is a failure and needs to step down immediately!!
I agree with you 💯💯💯
ASAP 💯
Judge rushed end of day ….. I haven’t seen anyone move so quick to leave their workplace
Ridiculous
the judge is good - she was way too lenient with the defense - but overall
good.
Judge Bev Cannone should be let go immediately. This confusion is due to her complete incompetence and what is obvious now to be bias.
Bev horrible judge 😡
I think it was more than incompetence. It was deliberate. The original jury form with only one NOT GUILTY. The jury instruction to only complete the form once they reach a verdict on ALL charges. Very deliberate.
Ridiculous. This jury had two attorneys and one retired law enforcement officer. If they had all agreed on acquittal, they would have said so
And when she got snotty with KR when she laughed like "is this a joke" because judge assumed yanetti saw a form like that one and he said no and she chuckled AND THEN she came back and made the changes which show her EGO almost didnt let the form get fixed. She was the worst with her huffing and puffing and letting lally get away with everything while sustaining lallys objections against Jackson. Disgrace to justice and poor Okeefes brother still thinks she did it. He is dense
yes she was biased she let Jackson rule the court room.
Unbelievable the amount of corruption that’s been exposed by this arrest, prosecution, and trial. From the lead MSP investigator who clearly was biased, lied, and unprofessional; to the now suspended Canton Police Officer related to the homeowner involved and exposed by the MSP investigator; to the prosecutors who apparently knew in advance of much of the exculpatory evidence presented by the defense and either covered it up or ignored it; to the Court and Judge who couldn’t or chose to deliver an improper jury form, to the clear bias of the Judge throughout the trial. Kudos to Read’s attorneys for exposing this unbelievable corruption…❗️
Exposed ineptness in ALL departments of the “justice systems”
Fake statements of fact. Karen Read murdered John O'Keefe
100%
Plus the unconvincing, we will not tolerate this type of behavior from the head of the Massachusetts state police. He was so insincere he didn’t mean a word of what he was saying.
Don’t forget the DA telling Higgins and Albert to get rid of their phones.
SHE DIDNT DO IT. LET HER GO and go after the shady police, judge and investigators. Quit punishing Karen for the McAlberts cover up.
Karen Read admitted in text messages that she ran over John O'Keefe
Can you provide the proof so we can see it for ourselves?@@bethmccrae2714
Why did Karen call her daddy, about a half hour after she got back to John's house?!? I'm near to her age, a bit older, and I would never wake my parents up, just to chat about a so-called fight with my boyfriend!! Lol smh. C'mon ppl. I'd call my dad in the middle of the night if something happened and I needed help or advice!!!! She called him first around 1:30 am, then later about 3:15 am. So her saying she waited for John, and fell asleep til 4:30 am was a Lie!! Actually, it may have been 3x calls to her dad. I know 2x for sure!!! And why did she ask Kerry if John was Dead, or hit by plow at 5am on phone? Her niece said she said same thing, and they were not on same convo. Kaylee (John's niece) was talking to Jen at same time. And if Karen already drove around at 5am, why didn't she go right to the Albert's door and bang on it??! Because she wanted to come back with Kerry and Jen, as witnesses!! Plus, how did Karen see John so damn fast in the dark, and the 2 in front looked same way, and could not see anything and they were closer to front lights?! To me, that means she probably knew area where he was.
@@KristieMAC1 a phone call to daddy is no smoking gun. All the evidence was tainted by the atrocious conduct of this whole police department. I do do not presume to guess what happenned to the poor victim but I would never convict a person on the basis of such flawed investigation. It is not even a shadow of a doubt we are talking about. The doubt is a freaking elephant in the courtroom prosecution pretended not to see.
a phone call to daddy is no smoking gun. All the evidence was tainted by the atrocious conduct of this whole police department. I do do not presume to guess what happenned to the poor victim but I would never convict a person on the basis of such flawed investigation. It is not even a shadow of a doubt we are talking about. The doubt is a freaking elephant in the courtroom prosecution pretended not to see.
Judge just as corrupt, she should not be a judge
dont call this pathetic women a judge
explain
The judge did this deliberately! She verbally attacked Karen BEFORE the jury was even sworn in ffs. They've been exposed!
She continued to make a fool of herself...even speaking to Karen directly, and then being rude to Karen. Judge should have apologized to Karen in front of everyone
go back to fantasy island
cops losing hold over there corruption at canton police station
Reminds me of the FBI whitey Bulger corruption. Plus, same awful bawstun accent. Looooosuhs
and you are in never never land
Arrest the McAlberts and one will flip. They already proved their character.
There is zero basis to arrest anyone other than Karen Read
I think Proctor will be the one to cave,imo
First to Talk - Gets to Walk..
@@foxgloved1 cave on what
One of the younger ones will let something slip. If Proctor had half a mind he’d flip and start telling the truth.
Please please don’t make us ever ever hear Lally talk again.
@@carolinaandbaby talk or cough👍
thats what your husband about you
Karen should have left that court a free woman on all counts.
Karen Read murdered John O'Keefe and she will be convicted of murder
after killing someone?
@user-ii2uh1xq7b After provably not killing someone. Nice try. 😊
@@user-ii2uh1xq7bnow this is just obvious that you are a pd troll. LOL
Absolutely. Zero evidence to convict her on any charge beyond reasonable doubt
I guess we weren't that crazy when all of us were saying the judge was corrupt
Definitely crazy😂
@@realhousewifeoftransylvania1.0 jen mccabe, don't you have a dentist appointment tomorrow morning to get ready for?
@pistolpete8231 No Karen, get a life and stop recycling other people's lame comebacks.🤡🤣
@realhousewifeoftransylvania1.0 Jen, the dominos are falling for your mcalbert gang. Instead of trolling online, if I were you I'd start packing my bags and flee to a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the U.S. would you like me to name them? The FBI will be at your doors soon. Run jen McTooth, run !!
@@realhousewifeoftransylvania1.0 So the Judge did a great job?
Oh Kevin I left your gun in the mailbox
😂😂
It was his badge and he joked about his gun
A more competent fair minded judge could have negated all of this current chaos. The judge behaved as if she had utter contempt for the defendant and her lawyers…and she might as well have been seated with the prosecutors.
Auntie judge was trying to sweep the innocent verdicts under the rug. She related to the Alberts how could she even preside over this case. The judges action are criminal
False statements of fact
@@bethmccrae2714you’re hilarious calling out false facts when you’re here with your pearl clutching over a corrupt investigation!
@@CarryonandlaughWoww, your username should be @carryonandhate!
No proof of criminal, though negligence or incometent...either way the judge made a fool of herself for all the world to see!
Aunt Bevs brother is a lawyer that defined Jevin Albert I. A muder/manslaughter case and obviously he got off easy and is still a cop! Paul, John's asshole brother that's covering with the enemy got off on a DUI that paralyzed someone in the process of his drunk accident thanks to Karen hiring and paying for Paul's lawyer!! What a bunchof unloyal ignorant scumbags!!!!!
Im just scared for the community it seems that everybody is crooked from the judge, DA and the cops. Scary!
I wouldn’t even drive through that place. Scary!!!
@@bettycattk5298 lol
@@bettycattk5298 Me either!
@@bettycattk5298Chances are you would encounter a cop driving under the influence who would then stop and accuse you of driving while being an outsider. Absolutely not worth it.
The judge should be disbarred at a minimum.
for what? explain
@@user-ii2uh1xq7b the judge was under a legal obligation to poll the jury as to it’s understanding and disposition on the individual charges. She failed to carry out this duty. While I’d love to speculate as to the why, it frankly doesn’t matter. In failing to carry out a simple, routine, normal and legislatively required part of her job she has denied the defendant in this case her full legal protections under MA law. In this case the Judge didn’t poll the jury to ensure the charges were understood, or to determine if any verdicts were unanimous. She also acted too quickly to allow the defense ask for such a poll.
(Applicable to jury trials in District Court and Superior Court)
(a) Return. The verdict shall be unanimous. It shall be a general verdict returned by the jury to the judge in open court. The jury shall file a verdict slip with the clerk upon the return of the verdict.
(b) Several Offenses or Defendants. If there are two or more offenses or defendants tried together, the jury may with the consent of the judge at any time during its deliberations return or be required by the judge to return a verdict or verdicts with respect to the defendants or charges as to which a verdict has been reached; and thereafter the jury may in the discretion of the judge resume deliberation. The judge may declare a mistrial as to any charges upon which the jury cannot agree upon a verdict; provided, however, that the judge may first require the jury to return verdicts on those charges upon which the jury can agree and direct that such verdicts be received and recorded.
(c) Special Questions. The trial judge may submit special questions to the jury.
(d) Poll of Jury. When a verdict is returned and before the verdict is recorded, the jury may be polled in the discretion of the judge. If after the poll there is not a unanimous concurrence, the jury may be directed to retire for further deliberations or may be discharged.
That judge was corrupt AF from the jump!!
Ridiculous
how?
She showed bias at every interaction with the attourneys, she didn't review the form that has to be done, in front of the jury...since it was completed she should have sent them back and have the foreman complete it. If they had a question about the form, there is someone to help them...
@@joannefeeney5792 yes biased for the defense. She basically let Jackson run the show , badger witnesses, she should have stopped that it was disgraceful,
This entire case and trial is absurd. Hollywood writers couldn't make this shit up, it's just so unbelievable.
I’ve been saying the same thing.
The story line would be too far-fetched.
The Domino effect is happening next we need Aunt Bev off the bench!!!! Conflict of interest!!!!!!
Did the judge move to mistrial quickly without a poll bc she wanted the defendant tried again for the first counts?
The judge is not required to poll the jury. The note that Judge Cannone received from the jury was adamant that they were deadlocked. If either side had a problem with the verdict, they could ask that the jury be polled. Her attorneys didn't ask, so this shouldn't fall on the judge.
Good question
Yes, and if she would have read each of the charges and what the jury decided, then it would have become part of the public record and the way that the judge did it, it could NOT become part of the public record 🤬
@@tracybarber8961 NO SHE IS NOT THE LAWYERS ARE DAMN NEVER SEEN SO MANY MORONS
The feds are hopefully investigating every case that Proctor and Albert touched!!!!!
The only corrupt public officials in this case are the feds
THEY ARE NOT INVOLVED DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
Even if I was an O'Keefe family member and believed Read to be guilty, I would be furious with the investigation and certainly wouldn't be friendly with those responsible for such an unprofessional mess. That's what's so baffling...the support the O'Keefe family is giving to those who have ultimately made this mess.
I agree, very strange
If it was a member of my family I’d be going crazy over the state of the investigation if you can even call it that but the cw let them down with this sham of a trial
@@McQuizzicalme too, strange.
@@JacquelineBurton-ro3vq Me too!
They've been brainwashed and bamboozled at best
The judge made a mess out of this trial.
and jacksons show boating.
The forms they give to the jury was ridiculous. Very confusing. The judge is on the take
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Ridiculous. There were two attorneys and one retired law enforcement on this jury. If everyone agreed to acquit the killer , they would have told the judge
@@bethmccrae2714 do you really think anyone on this comment stream gives two cents about your delusional opinion? lol
You mean Auntie Bev?
The lawyers make the sheets
The judge told the jury the COULDN'T fill out the form until they reached a unanimous verdict on all the charges. And that her verbal instructions should be followed over the written ones
Thank you I heard same. I wonder if anyone else heard the whole conversation from the Judge.
CORRUPTION EXISTS BECAUSE CONSEQUENCES DO NOT.
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The whole thing stinks
Jackson didn’t like the way that form was handled and brought it up to the judge before deliberations. She was so arrogant and such a know it all and said that’s the way we’ve always done it. She finally did do a little something to correct it. Obviously not enough.
I understand that she likes running her own little fiefdom. She hated it that two VERY smart attorneys came in and upset her little apple cart!!!
Jackson and Lally approved of the changes so you can't put the blame entirely on the judge.
shes been on the defense side the whole time sh let jackson bully wtinesses
I agree. And just because somethings always done a certain way doesn't make it right. This is a court of law for crying out loud, change it.
Also I'd be interested to know how often that particular type of jury slip has been used.
@@McQuizzical this court was a circus becaise,of the crazy karen read cult
@@McQuizzical karen read cult made into a circus they were tailgating outside the court house during a murder trial how insane!
This is on the court. Jury instructions were not sufficient, and if you rewatch she declared mistrial and dismissed the jury within literal seconds (maybe two minutes?) after bringing them in the last time. She also did not hear either the prosecution or the defense on the decision. She errored. She needs to own it and fix it.
Wrong
@@bethmccrae2714 how so?
I did note that at the time it was like this judge couldn't get that jury out of there fast enough. As a juror on one criminal trial I watched the judge do just like Bev in trying to keep evidence out and shut down the defense, when she pulled that stuff the first time my radar came up that something was very wrong he was a poor guy with just an attorney not a criminal attorney but she tried every witch way to get the evidence in that he was not guilty, in spite of the judge and the Barracuda prosecution in the end we also hung 10 to 2 For not guilty. The fact is you are on some of these juries and some of the members just are not capable of critical thinking or connecting dot one to. 2, they vote for their personal prejudices and bigotries
@@j.c.7555 sure, they should. But ultimately it falls on the court to ensure the defendant gets a fair and just trial and that jurors are able to accomplish their duties. There’s no place in the jury instructions that specifies what to do in this situation, and the jury had no indication that the mistrial would be declared after the Tuey-Rodriguez charge so… it’s on Cannone.
@@j.c.7555 I have to tell you that most people are not bold enough to ask questions they just stay quiet, and apparently they didn't have someone who would push the issue leaving it to the foreman who didn't
Interrogate Colin Albert. Then you would get the WHOLE story.
Correct
Bev’s instructions to jury made them think they could not fill in anything if they couldn’t be unanimous on all 3 charges. They thought she would ask them about it she didn’t. It is normal practice for the judge to ask clarifying questions about which of the 3 charges or all of them!! She didn’t
Ridiculous. Two of the jurors are attorneys and one is retired law enforcement. If the jury had agreed to acquit, they would have told the judge
@bethmccrae2714 they probably said the judge would ask. You know, like she was supposed to. I was on a hung jury before and we were asked. Several times.
@@bethmccrae2714 How do you know what their occupations are?
Regardless, their are all types of attorneys across the board, not just criminal law, eg property, corporate, sports, divirce etc etc etc, so it doesnt man alot here, also there have been many lawyers speak out and say that even they found the form confusing and a struggle to navigate.
@@bethmccrae2714How do you know such detailed information about the jurors?
@@bethmccrae2714hearsay at it's finest...
The judge runs the courtroom…judge Bev dropped the ball and the normal procedure, but according to judge Bev stated numerous times…”In Massachusetts this is how it has been and is done” tsk tsk
Bev said that is her way. Narsistic behaver.
Then she was wrong!
The Judge should be fired for her biased and incompetance
Corruption is addictive, power drunk judge needs rehab! first she has to admit it!
If you watched the trial the way judge Bev called the jury was fast and confusing because she also ignored the second note was not clear about the charges and she denied almost every thing defense requested
Omg this trial was a debacle on every level.
Who doesn't strongly suspect the judge purposely misled the jury? Specifically, that their verdict had to be on all charges or none. Either that or she only partially shared what they did submit in terms of the note or jury slip if there was one
That's why she dismissed them so abruptly, so that neither they nor anyone else could question anything.
What was it she said? After reading the note saying further deliberations would be futile and cause them to go against their deeply held moral convictions. "I'm not going to do that to you. Your service is complete. I'm declaring a mistrial." ALL IN ONE BREATH.
She didn't ask if either side would like the jury to be polled. Nor did she pause, even for a split second, ensuring that no objection could be raised.
Instead of thanking them for their service, yadda yadda - She quickly got them out of the room saying, "I'll be in to speak with you privately in a few moments." or words to that effect.
Yes,I totally sensed she deliberately set up confusing counts of verdicts. She only wanted GUILTY
Absurd
@@bethmccrae2714 We all watched the trial and the judge’s behavior. Cutting off the defense mid swing, asking ‘do you want to object Mr Lally’, some questionable ‘sustained’s and it goes on. The bias was so evident to the world jury watching. If the Feds found John wasn’t hit by a vehicle then this investigation will go on. There never was a case to try
There never was a case to try against Karen Read but there’s a murder victim and a group of liars with a lead organizer that need to go on trial. Will Judge Cannone preside on that one?
She better do the right thing and poll the jury now, in front of attorneys...like they had in Murdaugh trial
Thinking back to how the original verdict sheet was set up with no NOT GUILTY on the two lesser charges, it's almost as if the judge wanted to make sure this wouldn't happen.
Also, having listened to jury instructions again, she SPECIFICALLY told them that they had to reach a verdict on ALL charges before completing the jury form.
Don't try and blame Jackson. This is 100% on the judge.
You must not have watched cause if you listen to what she said it was confusing. She didn’t give anyone a chance to say ish.
They are obviously afraid of the Albert’s
No one is afraid of the Albert’s they just pretending . It’s all the defenses plan
“They’ve gone through everything but my sock drawer, but they won’t go through Brian Albert’s front door"!
Exactly, and if anyone else owned that house, they would've had it upside down on it's roof shaking it to see if anything falls out that is sus!!
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I think the court did it on purpose. To avoid the loss, to avoid the humiliation of losing.
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Plausable for sure
Wyc49
@@LawNerdAmber
Judge never gave the defense a chance to object. She immediately dismissed the jury and declared a mistrial! She should have inquired and polled them!
I think auntie Bev should be held responsible for that. She probably did it because she doesn’t like Karen. I think she should have some kind of reprimand something something has to happen. Maybe she needs to go home and rest for a year or two
Why should all this happen to the judge because she clearly sees through Karen Read and her attorneys, O sorry she is corrupt now how convinced to call her that, don’t be mad cause it wasn’t a win win for her DUI manslaughter to the full extent of the law, commissary in prison are owned by theO’Keefe so good luck trying to get your personal needs but your bed roll with your F-# is awaiting the inmates will suck up Daddy’s money she will be someone’s cash cow, she will be afraid cause they will be thirsty waiting on who will have her first.
Get a man Judge. Women can be horrible towards other women.
They didn’t ask because the judge specifically said that the jury wasn’t allowed to tell anyone including herself what the numbers were 🤷🏻♀️
But they could tell her hung on 1 count
@@joannefeeney5792IIRC the judges instructions were that a unanimous verdict needed to be reached on ALL counts before the form could be filled out
They should be ashamed of themselves Corruption & Guilty Cops and Juge should be accountable .Free Karen Shes Innocent in all counts
EXPLAIN ALL THE CORRUPTION
Judge should of asked jury if “they were hung on All 3” charges. Wtf is wrong with this town?? Geeezzz
Where’s the responsibility of the judge
The defense shouldn't have had to object to get the poll of the jury! The JUDGE should have asked as EVERY other judge does!! She needs to be held accountable for this
Ridiculous. The jury is not polled unless they reach a verdict
She is the one that wasted the taxpayers money.
Especially on a hung jury of multiple charges
Was it normal protocol for judge to choose foreperson? Because foreperson did not indicate in note to judge that the jury was only hung on 2nd separate charge. Seems suspect!
It is a draw out of a hat sort of speak...
Simple Question….”What are you stuck on?” Isn’t this something simple that Bev should of asked the jurors????? 😳 What does she actually do besides huff and puff?
The sighing and eye rolling of this judge irritated the crap out of me since the preliminary hearings.
Judge was so unprofessional
@@mandystone3005 you race is irritating
I heard that when three jurors were chosen to be removed, defense asked to see all lottery numbers in bucket (arranged by state police). Is it true this was requested and denied? Since not guilty jurors were said to have been removed, was it ensured that the process of choosing was Fair?
Sounds like Aunt Bev made the decision that if the jury wasn't going to come to a guilty verdict on at least one of the counts then she wasn't going to allow them to give a not guilty verdict on any of them either, thus she declared a mistrial. That's it in a nutshell.
The judge should be Fired!!!!!
The Vote Slip was designed to be confusing by the Court, there was no "NOT GUILTY" box to check, Amazing!!!
Yes there was
Canton confidential is dying on the hill of the corrupt
This is going to be one heck of a movie.
@@wilson4180 DOUBT IT
@@user-ii2uh1xq7b Alec Baldwin case got dismissed immediately for evidence procedure misstep and the prosecutor calling AB inappropriate names. Karen Read case had both these too, yet it continued until the end.
@@wilson4180 karen killed john out of malice, alec made a mistake not knowing there were bullets in the gun, she knew her suv would kill john apples and oranges brp keep it real
@@user-ii2uh1xq7b it doesn’t matter if she killed 3 babies and a nun with malicious intent or not.. the judicial procedure was violated, yet allowed to continue.
I watched a lot of that trial and truly that judge was so biased and incompetent and clearly in favor of the prosecution winning their case. A different judge would have never allowed this to even come to trial it was that compromised an investigation that they shouldn't have been able to get in a courtroom
Because the judge knew that The jury would have trouble with the jury form.🤬
I think thats what it was designed for. I'd like to know how often they use that particular form/slip.
In a world of law, things can and are always improved.
Right! And the judge didnt want to hear it...until someone in court showed her the form, she had to back peddle
@@joannefeeney5792 SHE CHANGED THE WAY JACKSON WANTED IT DID YOU WATCH THE TRIAL? EVERYWHERE JEANNE
The Judge’s verbal instructions to the jury told them to turn in the verdict form when you reached unanimous decision. No message about split verdicts. This is on the Judge.
Canton select board…interesting members Mr Doody (Katherine Doody was at Albert residence that night), Mr. Chris Albert (His son Colin was at Alberts residence that night)..Mr Laughlin (his brother Lucky Laughlin plowed the street of Alberts residence that night)…talk about spider web connections.
Right?!
The DA would be foolish to re-try this case, at least with the same charges.
I feel that the judge wanted a mistrial because, like everyone else with half a brain could see where it was heading..Not Guilty!..
And if that is correct then the court did it on purpose right? To avoid the loss, to avoid seeing Karen win.
No the DA will get a conviction of all counts in the next trial
@@bethmccrae2714 tough to find any Read Trolls these days, most on paid leave, but there you are with you badge of illogic.
That's because you're all stupid.
I think judge “auntie bev” wanted a mistrial so the prosecution could learn from all their mistakes and get a conviction next time
Paid leave equals paid vacation, how is that a punishment?
MA state law under MAPFL
As usual, it's just more punishment to the taxpayers
@@lil_PowPow well tell hit and go karen
@@user-ii2uh1xq7b I think you mean to use the term 'hit and run'. Honestly that's not even the issue with your comment.
I'm all for people having their own opinions and perspective on things, that's very important for a dynamic society. However, the details (or lack thereof) the CW tried to lay out defy realistic possibilities.
There is no way the multiple scenarios LE concocted led to chain of events that Karen had anything directly, to do with John's death.
It was proven scientifically impossible for a car to cause the scene and damages left in front of 34 Fairview
The level of corruption if off the charts from the cops to the judge herself. This case will spark a major overhaul in the judicial system for sure. Sit back and enjoy people.
What a fucking mess. It's a disgrace for the judicial system
CANTON PD CORRUPTION FROM TOP TO BOTTOM! AFTER PROCTOR THERE WILL BE MORE. FIRED NO ADMIN TIME OFF. Proctor’s on their front lawn “I support my husband”….YOU DO NOW 🤣
How does that city panel or whatever they call themselves not suspend or DISMISS Chris Albert. This is crazy!!
Judge Canmone is involved
Everybody is involved. People are now saying John's brother Paul is responsible or involved somehow. It's ridiculous. Stop making stuff up that you have no evidence of.
lol you are so paranoid
@@tracybarber8961 yes and casper the friendly ghost is too.
@@tracybarber8961speaking of making stuff up that you have no evidence for… that’s exactly what the prosecution and its scoundrel witnesses did.
She the judge da
Apparently someone forgot to explain to the jurors.What reasonable doubt is?I have never seen a more reasonable doubt laden case in my fifty six years
Bring in judge Randolph (from the Troconis trial). Excellent judge. There's a lot Canone can learn.
Ah, to have been a fly on the wall in that deliberation room
I don’t understand…why weren’t the two verdicts reached accepted and honored?
Judge never asked the jury
@@kabbystevens5167
That seems truly messed up.
This is the judges fault all her this was horrible judge she's to blame bring in the same jury and get a verdict down on paper
100 million plus new Lexus
😂 not today
The defense had this planned with changing the juror slip it was premeditated
@@Jayhay- Great point🤔
1 juror is already big, who cares how many come forward. Couldn't trust the judge or court
The letter from the foreman stated that they were unable to reach a verdict on the charges - plural . He lied .
Our he was speaking about count 2, and the multiple lesser charges.
The fact that we have to guess even on the plurality of a word in the note seems to require the court to question all the jurrors on the entirety of verdict confusion.
Absolute corruption. Sad but true based on facts
100% corruption at the core
conspiracy theory
This is case is a great example of why we need DEI. Look at how many incompetent people are in positions of profound power due to their know-a-guy-isms.
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No. We need honest and competent people regardless of color.
@@marygoff3332 That’s what DEI ensures. It’s the remedy to the *preexisting* culture of know-a-guy-ism.
Right DEI diversity works great in pro women’s basketball WNBA 🤡 Caitlyn Clark is a prime example she can feel the love from the cheap shots and being slammed on the court ie. From all the diversity 🤡
And being screwed out of team USA squad 🤡
Cuz u know equity equality inclusion 🤡
@@Usernotfound31231
Yeah diversity is so appreciated especially in women’s pro basketball WNBA just ask rookie Caitlyn Clark who receives cheap shots one after another and slammed to the floor … yeah the other side really appreciates diversity 🤡
Equity and equality 🤡
DEI will fix it all 😮💨
I never thought her behavior rose to blatant bias. She acted within her discretion. But this is gross incompetence and the first question I asked - what was the split? They hung on all charges??
HOW could the judge not ask this?? If the jurors did vote that way the charges should be dismissed with prejudice AND expunged.
Chris Albert is the murderer.
Naw, it's Brian Higgins, Colin Albert and Brian Albert that are responsible. I think it was a physical altercation. JO fell backward hitting his head on the gym equip in the Alberts basement. That's when the dog attacked JO.
Where was the dog when Jenn McCabe came bursting into Brian and Nicole's bedroom where Chloe sleeps?..why wasn't Chloe barking with all the noise going on outside?..why didn't Jenn know where Chloe was when she bust in?..any dog wouldve reacted to all of it going on.
I think their daughter took Chloe with her when she left since she was the last one to leave..Chloe was re-homed 2 months later to another state..
@@rebeccaswift7588and why did Tim Albert fill in his pool? Is there something buried underneath?
@@rebeccaswift7588EXACTLY what I believe.
Chris went home after the Waterfall
@@rebeccaswift7588 I believe that also
I don’t believe they re-home there dog that dog is with them 🙄in there new house 🏡 such liars they are who can trust anything that come from them
Higgins needs to be held accountable as well!!!!!! Any word on him???
You cannot leave the scene of a crash when the FBI requested, unbiased, scientific evidence shows there was never a crash. Therefore she is innocent on all charges.
How about Karen’s losses in her life and career? It’s time people responsible for John’s death. You can’t get away for doing Pure Evil to another person, how dare all of them. Truth always prevails and Karen had no chance until hired the big guys. This should have never occurred and waste everyone’s time and money. Go after the liars
She caused it all. Storm bringer Karen. Hell is too nice a place for Karen Adelson.
I feel the same way. There should be a law that a defendant could press charges against the DA/Investigators for bringing this sloppy case against her….She’s Not Guilty but….Loses Job, Loses Reputation, Loses Money (million dollar defense), Embarrassed about her medical issues, etc., etc. ! It’s horrible what these 💩 bags have done to her.
Alan Jackson represents horrible people
Karen killed John and left him to die in the blizzard.
@@MaureenODonovan nope! That’s not it!
Corruption at it's highest in Mass?
K.R has a good case to sue literally everyone
I doubt anything will be done with the jurors speaking out. No verdict was given. They didnt sign the verdict forms and turn it in. Its over. Im curious as to what the judges reaction or action will be if any..
The judge told them they couldn't fill out the form till they reached a unanimous verdict!
@@autosalesqueen I heard that too
Sue O’Connell is a great communicator
Innocent on all counts
NO GUILTY OF SECOND DEGREE
MY OPINION THIS JUDGE DOING A LOUSY JOB. IF THERES A SECOND TRIAL I HOPE ITS NOT GONNA BE THE SAME JUDGE
Can't find her guilty for dropping him off can they, as dumb as they are might try lol hopefully she can just get back to her life and not deal with bs
I feel terrible for John O’keef’s parents. They seem to be very nice people. He was very cute.
BUT there was obviously a big class difference between them and those “ friends” that they were drinking with that night. The “mock” boxing in that bar was too much!!! I have never seen grown men doing that. Children are really hitting each other if they are doing something like that.
They are creeps. Higgins and the woman with the crooked tooth are perfect examples of who not to have in your life. Their testimony said everything!!!
Karen killed John and left him to die in the blizzard
@@bettycattk5298Karen is a Insanely jealous DRUNK. Started drinking at 2 pm. Had 9 vodka shots in less than 3 hours. Still drunk at 8 am
@@MaureenODonovan haha look an Albert friends are here the dumbbells hos long have you had the evidence, ha ha can you prove with you shady canton corrupt people guilty we all know who and involved you the Alberts your dogs I point finger like you I can tell a story and your believe it I know you very gullible people today brainwashed
@@MaureenODonovan she got proof she said she knows you did it
Judge Bev said to not fill out any of the counts, until they come back unanimous on all counts? Why did she instruct that? instead, if they found her unanimous, on any count, fill it out and move onto the next! That seems more appropriate! It was the verdict form instructions & too much legalese that confused them! It was all judge Bev’s fault! Just make it simple!
Isn't it strange that fixed "Witch Trials" continue in Massachusetts to this day! You can't make this sh*t up.
Kevin Albert WAS part of the Read case. Boy, you got that wrong. He coordinated and scheduled interviews between his family members and Proctor even though he was supposed to be conflicted off of the case. Please report accurately.
Exactly
It couldn’t and shouldn’t be up to the jury!!! The jurors doesn’t know law and don’t know what or how to do. The defense or the prosecutor didn’t have the right to pull the jury. They further are prohibited from contacting any of the jurors. The court, meaning the judge has the full responsibility here. The judge are responsible for instructing the jury so that there are no misunderstandings. The judge has the responsibility to check that every has understood. The judge has the responsibility to double check that the jury has filled out the slips as they should, if they have verdicts on one or several counts. If you are going to rely on the jury system. These are basic things that must be part of every court process. This is exactly serious!!
This case has been a catastrophe ever since day one, and the catastrophes keep appearing.
So thankful to be living in a country where we don’t have the jury system because this case shows exactly how bad this system is.
More Canton cops manhandling a tiny little woman on camera because she would not respect his authority. Grotesque bullies.
The prosecution wants and needs a guilty verdict so bad , ill bet money that judge bev , sides with the prosecution !
The judge’s conduct throughout the trail was shameful. The jury foreman appeared not to be proactive in representing the jury’s need for clarity of instructions.
Criminal court.
Judge Canonne would have said what she said previously " This how its done in Massachusetts " and the way she was rude to the defense when they just wanted clarification on the verdict form even asked Karen Read " Is something funny Miss Read " she was actually downright aggressively rude.
Bev is committing judicial misconduct to cover for dirty cops? To have any judge do this with the world 🌎 watching is astounding! She’s got too many conflicts of interest w/ the DA & officers. She should have recused but instead refused-why? If they all voted NOT Guilty for counts 1 & 3, then she can’t be tried again for those crimes under Dbl.Jeopardy. I’m sure the FBI already knows a lot more than we do-sadly, this case is far from over.
the fbi is not involved whats wring with you?