I set out on this journey of cataloging North 100 Showdown match outcomes and die roll proficiency with no expectations of ever being directly mentioned, so the beginning of this episode was a big moment for me. In celebration I am adding a page to my excel sheet that will break down episodes per game rather than per match. I might have it ready for the next episode but I'm not certain, it will take about 4 times the data entry of the current sheet. Now, onto this match's stats. Wheeler won the match on the play, bringing him to 68% die roll success, a 78% winning record on the play, and a 72% winning record overall. Nelson lost this match on the draw, bringing him to 27% die roll success, an 18% winning record on the draw, and a 13% winning record overall.
While it's not the ridiculous thing about it, the fact that it's not deterministic is such a pain. You know they got it, but there's like 5% they don't so you have to make them have it.
I love the combo of talking about Courser being old into referencing a series of GI Joe meme videos as if that isn't also 10+ years old at this point. I truly love how esoteric that sounds for people who have no idea what you're referencing
12:50 Fun fact: if Wheeler wanted to spend 4 life, he could have used Spellskite to redirect the Skullclamp equip after targeting another creature. Spellskite's ability makes it become the target, so it triggers Nadu.
when i learned that ward triggers of becoming targeted, i wanted to make a deck that was "copy spellskite, give ward, counter any targeted thing". the best way i could think of to do that was Green Blue. and then nadu dropped and i was like "another trigger on target? ok". now i dont have any friends :(
I don’t think that’s how that works. I’m pretty sure, despite how the ability seems worded, that it only works off of something being declared a target and not off of the target being redirected. Which would explain why he didn’t do that.
.... Wtf even when I thought I understood the potential of Nadu I thought it was cracked in half, then Wheeler does stuff with it I didn't even think of.. Card is bonkers..
Nadu is such a dumb card design! All your creatures gain WALL OF TEXT that triggers only twice. But twice per creature. And then the fools at R&D put that ability on a very good flying body for bad measure. :/ Why does the wording include abilities? Makes no sense whatsoever when repeatable activated abilities for 1 and 0 mana exist! :/ Why does it put lands into play untapped so that you can keep going? Makes no sense!
Oooh, there's a cool niche interaction with Nadu and Spellskite in that first game - if you activate something like Clamp/Mom targeting something other than spellskite (getting a nadu trigger), then activate spellskite targeting that activated ability, you'll get an additional Nadu trigger off of skite once you change the target over to it (since Nadu just cares about when something "becomes a target"). It's only useful if you're choked on ways to proc Nadu (and can spare the life/mana), but it's _very_ flashy and therefore worth it.
So Wheeler's fun line at the end of g3 doesn't actually work. Nadu is in play already (this is important for timestamps). Oko +1 targets Skullclamp It becomes a 3/3 green elk, it gains "Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability, reveal the top card of your library. If it’s a land card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your hand. This ability triggers only twice each turn.” Then, as per Oko's ability, it loses all abilities. When Lightning greaves targets Skullclamp, it does not trigger, as it has no abilities. If you make a bunch of elks and then play Nadu, the elks will have the ability, but the other way around is not so friendly to Toucan Sam.
is it a case of dependencies though the nadu only affects the skull clamp because it got turned into a creature with no abilities so that effect happens first then the nadu effect grants the ability or am I wrong about how dependencies work in this situation ?
Forgive me if I’m wrong but Nadu doesn’t trigger at all. Since he gives the creatures the ability wouldn’t the triggers be coming from the creatures given the ability?
Nadu = "Na, du?" In German meaning "hey you". "Na, du?" is a famously bad opener when you want to start a conversation, for example when flirting. You can think of it equivalent to "How you doin?" by Joey from Friends.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but couldn't Wheeler use spellskite at 13:48 to redirect the skullclamp's equip ability to itself for another Nadu trigger? If that wouldn't work with equipment for whatever reason, what about using spellskite at 17:48 to redirect mom's ability to itself for another Nadu trigger?
There once was a Springheart Nantuko That comboed with Nadu and Shuko Equip them for free My foe scooped on turn three And dropped out to go play rounds of Uno
It's pretty obvious that Nadu was designed to only trigger twice per turn total, not twice per turn per creature, but whoever typed it out didn't format it that way. It would be a perfectly fair card if that were how it worked.
something that I feel is important to note is that even though Wheeler is saying Nadu trigger for all of his stuff, really they are triggers on the individual creatures themselves since Nadu gives that ability to all of your creatures
The great part about watching Nadu get played is that you see it hit the battlefield then you can just turn off the video and go do something else because it's just that boring to watch in action.
If I had a nickel every time a 1UG creature that absolutely broke the game and that ended up banned in pretty much every format was printed, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but JESUS CHRIST WOTC STOP DOING THIS
I think the most important comment I could make regarding Nadu is, its an important distinction that its not Nadu who's triggering its the creature being targeted.
Flying to events with pricey decks sounds very scary to me. A friend of mine got his backpack stolen in a GP with decks worth probably at the 10k range.. the thieves were organized, distracting him while blocking the camera and poof, backpack gone. Never lose sight of your stuff!
Somebody at R&D desperately wishes they had figured out the templating to make Nadu only trigger twice per turn PERIOD instead of twice per-turn per-creature. :V
when ben untapped with Nadu for the first time I began skipping 10 second ahead on repeat and watched his permanants just double each 10 second interval. I can't wait for wizards to fix thier mistake.
Wheeler talking about trying to remember what fetchables you still have left makes me think I may want to bring a printout of the decklist to cross off tutor targets as I go
Creature combo decks tend to only pack things that facilitate the combo or protect the combo. Does Urza's Saga do either of those things well? Slowly tutor for Skullclamp, an equipment that costs mana to target? Slowly tutor a Mox which is also just a 1 mana rock replacing that 1 mana land that just sacrificed itself? It's a fair question, but I feel like that's a fair answer too.
@@markbrierley6367 fair enough, im a total newb to the format so that could be entirely correct, my intuition just says that a free way of getting shuko is worth but maybe not
In the last game Wheeler could’ve just eternal witnessed the tainted pact the first time and cast it and thoracle to win instead of spinning his wheels just to pass lol
The worse these intros get, the more committed I am to the channel
What do you mean worse, they’re perfect.
@@NStripleseven I couldn't agree more
Everyday we get closer to god's perfect light lol
Why have Cephalid Breakfast when you can have Chicken Dinner?
That’s two different meals, so I get to have both, methinks
@@IRFine What about Second Cephalid Breakfast?
I’m partial to thalid lunch
Winner winner
@@princephantom1294Assembly-worker midnight snack
I set out on this journey of cataloging North 100 Showdown match outcomes and die roll proficiency with no expectations of ever being directly mentioned, so the beginning of this episode was a big moment for me. In celebration I am adding a page to my excel sheet that will break down episodes per game rather than per match. I might have it ready for the next episode but I'm not certain, it will take about 4 times the data entry of the current sheet. Now, onto this match's stats. Wheeler won the match on the play, bringing him to 68% die roll success, a 78% winning record on the play, and a 72% winning record overall. Nelson lost this match on the draw, bringing him to 27% die roll success, an 18% winning record on the draw, and a 13% winning record overall.
Hey, congrats! I always look for your comments on these videos :)
There's a lot that's ridiculous about Nadu, but the fact that the lands come in untapped just absolutely floors me
The scream I scrumpt when he put the fetch in untapped
While it's not the ridiculous thing about it, the fact that it's not deterministic is such a pain. You know they got it, but there's like 5% they don't so you have to make them have it.
I don't mean to alarm anyone, but I think it's possible this Nadu card might be pretty busted.
But at least it's fast and deterministic.
Mother of Ruins should be the Eldrazi version of Mother of Runes
My man is making Modern Horizons 4 cards over here.
I love the combo of talking about Courser being old into referencing a series of GI Joe meme videos as if that isn't also 10+ years old at this point. I truly love how esoteric that sounds for people who have no idea what you're referencing
The original GI Joe spoofs turn 21 this year! :V
Fix computah!
"each opponent can only play spells whilst Teferi is on the stack" is so good
12:50 Fun fact: if Wheeler wanted to spend 4 life, he could have used Spellskite to redirect the Skullclamp equip after targeting another creature. Spellskite's ability makes it become the target, so it triggers Nadu.
Yeah I don’t know why he didn’t I thought that was the entire point of it being in the deck. Also it only triggers twice so it’s totally balanced sc
when i learned that ward triggers of becoming targeted, i wanted to make a deck that was "copy spellskite, give ward, counter any targeted thing". the best way i could think of to do that was Green Blue. and then nadu dropped and i was like "another trigger on target? ok". now i dont have any friends :(
I don’t think that’s how that works. I’m pretty sure, despite how the ability seems worded, that it only works off of something being declared a target and not off of the target being redirected. Which would explain why he didn’t do that.
He wanted to keep up protection
@@NiimuraJun can confirm this DOES work. Any misdirection effects will trigger nadu or ward. Contrast with “when you cast a spell that targets”
Wheeler and Nelly just seem like a couple of the coolest folks to play against. I love that they both have a unique vibe and in both cases its rad.
.... Wtf even when I thought I understood the potential of Nadu I thought it was cracked in half, then Wheeler does stuff with it I didn't even think of.. Card is bonkers..
I thought it was limited to twice per turn. Turns out, no.
Twice per turn *per creature* is, as it turns out, a mistake.
@@Kestral287yeah what a wild time to put Twice per turn on a card lol 😂
what? Wheeler didnt do anything that was super wonky lol
@@theaamanable A lot of people just haven't parsed Nadu correctly.
Nelson thinking it doesn't constantly rain in The Netherlands as well.
He will be happy that his decks aren't going to get soggy.
Nadu is such a dumb card design!
All your creatures gain WALL OF TEXT that triggers only twice. But twice per creature. And then the fools at R&D put that ability on a very good flying body for bad measure. :/
Why does the wording include abilities? Makes no sense whatsoever when repeatable activated abilities for 1 and 0 mana exist! :/
Why does it put lands into play untapped so that you can keep going? Makes no sense!
If Nelson somehow clutches this out I'll be floored.
New name for the Nadu deck: Chicken and Waffles!
It's perfect. It's still a breakfast food, but it references Nadu
Oooh, there's a cool niche interaction with Nadu and Spellskite in that first game - if you activate something like Clamp/Mom targeting something other than spellskite (getting a nadu trigger), then activate spellskite targeting that activated ability, you'll get an additional Nadu trigger off of skite once you change the target over to it (since Nadu just cares about when something "becomes a target").
It's only useful if you're choked on ways to proc Nadu (and can spare the life/mana), but it's _very_ flashy and therefore worth it.
I think Nelson just came at all of Latin America with that DBZ comment
@@TeaGarrisonWe do have a different opening unique to Canada tho!
So Wheeler's fun line at the end of g3 doesn't actually work.
Nadu is in play already (this is important for timestamps).
Oko +1 targets Skullclamp
It becomes a 3/3 green elk, it gains "Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability, reveal the top card of your library. If it’s a land card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your hand. This ability triggers only twice each turn.”
Then, as per Oko's ability, it loses all abilities.
When Lightning greaves targets Skullclamp, it does not trigger, as it has no abilities.
If you make a bunch of elks and then play Nadu, the elks will have the ability, but the other way around is not so friendly to Toucan Sam.
is it a case of dependencies though the nadu only affects the skull clamp because it got turned into a creature with no abilities so that effect happens first then the nadu effect grants the ability or am I wrong about how dependencies work in this situation ?
@@jamieclarke2622it is not. Type change happens in Layer 4, adding and removing abilities both happen in Layer 6, so they go in timestamp order.
Forgive me if I’m wrong but Nadu doesn’t trigger at all. Since he gives the creatures the ability wouldn’t the triggers be coming from the creatures given the ability?
Technically, yes (unless Nadu is the one being targeted). Most of the time it doesn't matter.
This is how I learned that the Nadu's 'twice only per turn' restriction applied to each creature separately. Disgusting.
thassa's oracle making the nadu combo mercifully quick to execute
Quick relative to what? The combo turn is still annoyingly long, much more so than many other combo variants, even in 100 card singleton formats.
man I hate Nadu. Just the worst magic card design possibly ever. but I can't pass up a N100
as someone who had this as their introduction to nadu, i'm so confused as to how this card got printed.
It is very rude to show off cool sleeves, tell me to go to the website, and then they are out of stock.... booooo this man!
hello from three months in the future, nadu's paper legality is confined to legacy and vintage
I got excited for mardu breakfast but Nadu in canlander is also cool I guess
"there's a ban announcement on the 24th of June"
Oh if only
Nadu = "Na, du?" In German meaning "hey you". "Na, du?" is a famously bad opener when you want to start a conversation, for example when flirting. You can think of it equivalent to "How you doin?" by Joey from Friends.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but couldn't Wheeler use spellskite at 13:48 to redirect the skullclamp's equip ability to itself for another Nadu trigger? If that wouldn't work with equipment for whatever reason, what about using spellskite at 17:48 to redirect mom's ability to itself for another Nadu trigger?
I do believe that doesn’t work because you're changing the target rather than choosing a new target. (Source trust me bro)
Hey! I am now watching this video and Wheeler is right, Nadu, Winged Wisdom is now banned! I love stockpiling these videos for a nice rainy day
Nadu already got banned as commander in Duel Commander by the time of airing 😎
I play against JP. That blood deck is my nemesis.
There once was a Springheart Nantuko
That comboed with Nadu and Shuko
Equip them for free
My foe scooped on turn three
And dropped out to go play rounds of Uno
Print "clamp your mom, coward" on a button and I will buy cards from card kingdom with haste. (The cards may or may not have haste)
It's pretty obvious that Nadu was designed to only trigger twice per turn total, not twice per turn per creature, but whoever typed it out didn't format it that way. It would be a perfectly fair card if that were how it worked.
something that I feel is important to note is that even though Wheeler is saying Nadu trigger for all of his stuff, really they are triggers on the individual creatures themselves since Nadu gives that ability to all of your creatures
Luv me Candlander, simple as that
The great part about watching Nadu get played is that you see it hit the battlefield then you can just turn off the video and go do something else because it's just that boring to watch in action.
I did always wonder how stripmine could be important enough to warrant its own deck.
ramunap, courser and that one enchantment has shown me the way.
Nadu should be banned in all formats, in all magic, in the whole universe.
I am just now realizing how fucked up nadu is. why is that not 6 or 7 mana
So glad to see nadu in canlander
I can hear cedric philips saying "trigger off the Misty, make a people"
The real question: is saying "Nadu triggers" a loss in Judge's Tower?
Does seem like Lotus Cobra's stocks are going up.
Excellent, as always. Thank you!
If I had a nickel every time a 1UG creature that absolutely broke the game and that ended up banned in pretty much every format was printed, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but JESUS CHRIST WOTC STOP DOING THIS
Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen! It's not going to happen!
I think the most important comment I could make regarding Nadu is, its an important distinction that its not Nadu who's triggering its the creature being targeted.
Thanks for the great content always, but why is it in 20fps? Am I just to early?
What the fuck they were thinking when they made that bird wizard????
Flying to events with pricey decks sounds very scary to me. A friend of mine got his backpack stolen in a GP with decks worth probably at the 10k range.. the thieves were organized, distracting him while blocking the camera and poof, backpack gone. Never lose sight of your stuff!
Somebody at R&D desperately wishes they had figured out the templating to make Nadu only trigger twice per turn PERIOD instead of twice per-turn per-creature. :V
when ben untapped with Nadu for the first time I began skipping 10 second ahead on repeat and watched his permanants just double each 10 second interval. I can't wait for wizards to fix thier mistake.
Honestly, one of my takeaways is just that reanimate is sick.
I saw this while watching a Modern match and went ''oh good god that sounds like disgustingly strong magic... I wanna watch that.''
Ly wheeler
"Clamp your mom, coward!" Button please.
I think it miiiight be time to upgrade the overhead cameras.
Though I know nothing of cameras and this could be a software issue or recording issue.
i love some LRR but i cannot abide DBZ slander
Wheeler talking about trying to remember what fetchables you still have left makes me think I may want to bring a printout of the decklist to cross off tutor targets as I go
I mixed up my weeks, what a welcomed surprise!! Also I love the vraska/jace sleeves, gonna use them for sultai sidisi.
I'm sorry if it's a weird question but are proxies allowed in Canadian Highlander?
jeez that was some gross (affectionate) magic
I wonder how long it's going to take for Nadu to become pointed?
"Clamp Your Mom" would be a hilarious button if it wasn't so awkward to explain to people.
Is Angel's Grace a card that is run in Canland ? Seems that would be good against thoracle
Damn, I did not realize, that the twice each turn is per Creature. Seems like a bug 😅
What a cool matchup
So that Nadu. Pretty good card there eh?
I just got the new "Kiss" sleeves and I absolutely love them, thanks LRR.
Damn that was a crazy episode
Did anyone else hear “GSZ” as “Chia Seed” or was that just me?
What do you do when you drop something?
Pick it up, pick it up pick it up.
We need a video of just wheeler shuffling. It is like ASMR
9/10; no Copper Tablet.
Yippee just in time for my daily folding paper for 3 hrs at my job time
Great matches this week. Close matches with interesting play lines.
Nadu seems like it is fun to play and miserable to play against.
wheeler needs reconnaissance
wonderful, gentlemen. thank you so much.
19:53 Wow, Nadu. What a fair and healthy Magic card.
nadu seems... strong...
Huh, that bird seems alright.
So, how many points should Nadu be?
Ok, but... will Nadu get pointed?
Someone tell Wheeler he was right about Satya
Is nadus diet exclusively coiling oracles
WHEEL! OF! NADU!
Nadu about to induce sleep on his opponents.
Let's see how cracked Nadu really is.
Wheeler's mic is a big phase-y. neat.
Nadu is gross
Nelson the premiere land pilot of the format
Throwdown
3:05 i got bad news for you wheeler
With nadu swinging around i think its time to sleeve up horobi
Correct me if im wrong but Nadu decls should be particularly well equipped to deal with Horobi bc the effect is symmetrical no?
This isn't a criticism but I am wondering why wheelers deck doesn't run urzas saga
Creature combo decks tend to only pack things that facilitate the combo or protect the combo. Does Urza's Saga do either of those things well? Slowly tutor for Skullclamp, an equipment that costs mana to target? Slowly tutor a Mox which is also just a 1 mana rock replacing that 1 mana land that just sacrificed itself? It's a fair question, but I feel like that's a fair answer too.
@@markbrierley6367 fair enough, im a total newb to the format so that could be entirely correct, my intuition just says that a free way of getting shuko is worth but maybe not
what am i missing, nadu only triggers twice each turn
Nadu gives each creature you control the ability, and each of those abilities trigger twice
In the last game Wheeler could’ve just eternal witnessed the tainted pact the first time and cast it and thoracle to win instead of spinning his wheels just to pass lol
Give us 2005 decks :))