Falconry: Lanner falcon questions
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- This video gives a brief intro to Lanner falcons and their ancient history with humans. This video is an intro to the up and coming Lanner Falcon video being created and collaborated with falconers around the world. The video invites viewers to leave input in the comments as to what points they would like included in the upcoming full Lanner video.
Fantastic. In South Africa we call the lanner Edelvalk, which translates to Noble, or Elite falcon.
And the French call it a ''Coward'' or ''Villaine''. In fact with no definite proof of ''Horus'' being a Lanner i would of thought it more likely to be the Barbary (Falco peregrinus pelegrinoides) a sub species of the Peregrine. And i don't see any civilisation would have any bearing on a Falcon or otherwise. Given a choice of flying a male Peregrine or female Lanner at partridge it would be the tiercel Peregrine every time, i have not got time to waste on a doubtful performer.
Love Lanners. Also there is a big difference between a passage Lanner and an eyass Lanner. Some of the most enjoyable longwing hawking I've seen was with passage Lanners in South Africa. Some of them are very hard hitting hawks. They are also great when flown in a cast. Truely lovely falcons.
I cannot wait for this video oh my goodness. I have been desperately trying to find more on the various Lanner subspecies and especially info on how they differ with things like temperature tolerance, size, gaminess, hunting/flight style and so much more. It fascinates me that if you ask someone who flies a Peregrine what subspecies it is, they immediately answer "peales, anatum, british" etc, they know precisely where it came from and what that means for their falconry. I have asked those who fly Lanners and many have said something along the lines of "I'm not sure, I think her great grandmother might have been Italian? She's lovely though!" Moral of the story: I am thrilled and grateful that there are those who are doing this kindof research and putting it together in an accessible format. Thank you, and bring on the long videos!
As a falconer who flies a Lanner and absolutely adores the species, I am so excited for this video! I do a lot of education with the public around our area with him, trying to educate people about them and about falcons in general.
You are probably already going to talk about most of what I could suggest, but I am always interested in any fun/quirky historical or species facts as I love adding those sorts of stories into my own presentations on these lovely birds!
@Art Chave It's a play on the word Ambisinistrous which is the opposite of Ambidextrous (basically you struggle to do things with either hand) and my name, that's all XD
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Yup. “He is Ambidextrous”= “He can screw it up with either hand”😂
Another interesting video, my female Lanner is a joy to own and fly to the lure. Look forward to more information on the species in general, especially the experiences of those who hunt them..
I'm Egyptian, and I love your work. I'm getting a Lanner Falcon myself by the end of this month and it'll be the perfect experience for me. It sucks to hear that they're expensive to get your hands on, they cost $95 here. Keep up the good work.
Amazing falcons hunt best along water holes , so I used my lanners and loggers best after a summer rain storm.starlings would come out to bathe.And we had some great sport.Also I have seen lannerettes flown at flocks old starlings like rook hawking .
Great topic. I’ve read somewhere that passage lanners are considered excellent game hawks in South Africa or there abouts. Maybe hacking them would be the recipe.
My first Brittany was accidentally “hacked” hunting with its brother for a month. That dog could hunt 😊
Love it! I've been waiting for a video like this. Being an apprentice in the midwest USA, I am trying to narrow down my choices for my next bird. Lanners are on my short list.
I am particularly interested in how the Lanner species varies in colour and size and behaviour in the different areas of its large range. Having flown this tremendous bird for many years I find they have similarities and differences. I find them very smart and social. Many old books do not describe them accurately and therefore do this great bird a disservice, if you are able to explore this more I will be delighted. This is a great video I have it viewed more than once. Can't wait for the next one. The Tutankhamun stuff is terrific.
I think covering some cultural differences related to falconry in the Egyptian area would complement the topic very well.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Very helpful! ❤
Your off to a great start on lanners . Very informative. I'll be paying close attention.
Oh cool same obssesion i have about ravens😁. Also i never noticed falcon head shoulderpiece at Tutanchamon mask before...
Looking forward on next vid. 👍🇨🇿💘
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR VIDEOS!! Idk if you’ll read this comment but I am getting into falconry, I’m 17, from Missouri and getting ready to retake my apprentice test. I am feeling very confident to retake it since listening to your videos gives me somewhere to apply the knowledge I’ve been studying in my study guide. It is FASCINATING! I just finished your podcasts and am exited to see what you have next! Again thank you so much! Keep up the great work 😁👍 I’m also getting ready to head to college in Idaho this fall.
I'm from Missouri and I am taking my test tonight, I know some really good falconers, are you in the Missouri falconry apprentice's facebook page, if you aren't you need to join.
@@kenna6903 I’ll look it up right now! Thank you!
@@emmagunter6727 No problem, may I ask what county you are in?
@@kenna6903 Lawrence county, I have a sponsor, he’s really awesome, I’m just waiting to take my test lol.
@@emmagunter6727 Oh okay, I am in Livingston county and have a sponsor in Calloway county.
thanks for the vids m8, very interesting talk. best regards from denmark. :)
I love Egyptians,and I also love lanners. When I was drawing Horus that time I saw that Egyptians did detail of the head,especially the notch in the beak. And I have also done some paintings on Horus,as he is my most favourite god. I also like Egyptian paintings,the most part I like of Egyptian gods are they often bird-headed,for example Horus or Ra,as I love birds. I love studying ancient Egypt. Awesome video.
Love your passion for the history. As a trained archaeologist and someone looking to get into falconry in Utah (just moved here), I think it's super exciting to see that there are other people passionate about the same things that drive me in life.
MANNY THANKS.
Thank you for this! I am spiritually guided to work with a raptor, it’s been a bizarre calling that has leaned in for a few years now and this year I finally decided to answer the call. I spoke with a couple of falconry teachers/schools and had planned to learn with them later this year. In my visions I am working with a bird that is deemed “difficult”, it will not fly with anyone else. I trusted the universe would direct me to this bird in time. A week ago I was approached in a crystal shop by a lady who recognised me from my channel and was excited to meet me, we chatted and for some weird reason I ended up blurting out that I am called to learn falconry (it’s not something I’ve discussed with anyone really, maybe only one or two people), she informed me her sister is a falconer, I told her my story about the difficult bird I’m meant to work with and it turns out they have a bird exactly as I described. It is a Lanner Falcon. I haven’t met her yet and I’m still not sure if she is The Bird, but that is what lead me to your channel and I couldn’t be more grateful. Your content is incredible, your passion obvious and I’m delighted to have this opportunity to learn from you. Did you create a follow up video about the Lanner Falcon? I can’t find another when looking through your listings. I’d love to learn more!
I hope I don’t offend but it was fun watching you geek out for 17 minutes. Your passion is so obvious. I am an apprentice and hope to get my first bird this fall. Fingers crossed for an American Kestrel but I am very curious about Lanners in falconry. What traits do they have that makes them recommended for beginner longwingers. Thanks again for such great content.
Lanner Falcons are usually very well mannered like Kestrels. They are easy to forgive, and most of them are fairly loyal like a kestrel. Of course as with any bird you must make sure your weight management is correct. But Lanner Falcons just seem to have a more easy going/less high strung disposition than many other large Falcons
I'm actually taking my test today, I already have a sponsor, I hope for a red tail but with the prices of lumber I might have to with a kestrel but I will be very happy either way.My sponsor breeds Lanners, Gyrs, sakers, Barbarys, Aplomados, Peruvian harris hawks, and hybrids.
Lovely!!!! Keep of the good works bro. This is a good one
Lanners often train falconers, not the other way round.
My wife and I saw the exhibit in Seattle, can't remember the year, but probably 'at that time'... we're a bit older than you ;-) It was wonderful to see, with ones own eyes...BTW, the bald eagle, not the most beautiful raptor, kind of a bit 'brutal' looking, compared to hawks and falcons!
This looks like it will be a really unique and powerful study!
I look for anything that *you* think is valuable...but environment, natural prey and hunting style, breeding and raising their young, variations in the breed across time and geography. Yoi'll do it up right!
Great video. I’m training a female feldeggi lanner from Puglia, I’ll probably fly her as a cast in due course
I feel lucky I got to learn about these birds first hand in person from you, a few days later I wanted to learn more and came across this channel which I subscribed 2nd to another RUclipsr I enjoy and subscribe to that teaches about falconry. It's fun learning about different birds
I have a passing interest into falconry and these videos are great.
I got to see a lanner fly years ago at topaz lake California hawk meet, it did really good at lure competition, very attractive bird would love to have one difficult to get.
Thanks for your insightful videos. Could you please also discuss the following topic in your upcoming video on Lanner Falcon? "Lanner Falcon as a lure or robot falconry bird." Thanks in advance!
I'd love to fly a Lanner one day
I have flown 3 lanners by now. With the female i cought 5 crows. All were beautiful flyers to lure or drone. Would love to see a film about them.
I read somewhere that Lanners will hunt naturally in a cast; not quite like Harris's, maybe a bit like Aplomados? I'd be interested to hear if that were true! I'm also interested in why you think a Lanner would be less "gamey" compared to other falcons. So many species that are great hunting birds diversified from the Lanner, it seems counterintuitive that the Lanner would be as lackadaisical as I've heard them described. I usually think more Buteos for that, not falcons. It will be great to hear about the different subspecies, as well. I'm very much looking forward to your video!
Yes both in the wild and in falconry they do well as a pair. And like you said, it seems very similar to how aplomados approach it. I have never flown a cast of Lanners, but I have known several people who have done so with great success.
I have a pair hope they breed next year I love Lanners.
Your the best Ben
I knew you were into Egypt. I saw the Hieroglyphs on the fabric strip to your right. I'm Kemetic myself 😅, I call Horus, Heru. I even got a book teaching how to read and write in hieroglyphs😅. And yes Heru is the god I look to😅
I've always loved Lanners, and seen them displayed in falconry centres in England many times but never flown a one myself. But I'm thinking of getting back into falconry now I have more time and I would love to fly a Lanner this time round.
Some Lanners do look like very different birds in the air as well as in colouring. The assumption seems to be that the ones that like to dive more like Peregrines would be more suitable to enter on game. But I would love to here what your thoughts are on some of the more 'floaty' lanners? Where do they come from? And What game should I try to enter one on?
Your videos are really helpful btw! Thanks man.
Hi Ben... Do you have archives of "Life with an indian prince " by craighead brothers. It shows trapping, training, hunting of many hawks. Therein is the laggar falcon (sister of lanner falcon), same happening with the laggar falcon. Very underrated hunter. It is in rapid decline due to various reasons.
I have heard of the book but never read it. I’ll try to track down a copy.
I have flown both Lugger & Lanner, Lugger harder to motivate to hunt. Lanners are easier but not as easy as a Peregrine. Mavrogordato's opinion is correct if a little unfair. The history lesson is interesting but has little bearing on the Lanner. I have never seen the so called trained feldeggi lanner fly any better than any other trained lanner falcon. Just an edge for people who breed & sell them, if you fall for it!
say, do Lanner falcons have that special 'tooth' in their beak, like a Peregrine, for dispatching prey? Looks like it in these images?
all falcons (or at least most, there's always an exception) have that killing tooth.
Yes indeed
Hey are licensed needed for Lanner Falcons in the USA
In your Lanner falcon project, can you also mention a bit about the history of the Lanner falcon in Egypt
Can you do a video on saker x gyr falcons and why there are bred and used in falconry
The photo of the Lanner made me immediately think of old Asian falconry photos. Like pyramid photos of falconry.
funnily enough the ones you have just shown lol
If you want peregrine performance get a peregrine get a lanner because you want to fly a lanner.😁
Just do what you think needs to be talked about.
Would love details on them going after crows from a car.
Can you do a video on what you studied in college and your career/job history and how you got where you are? I am getting ready to go to college and I’m so lost as to what field I want to go into.. Please college gods let me do something with animal 😂
Why did I want to keep Raptors? Can't be sure.
I wanted to see if I could care for something wild, to see if it could accept me. They aren't tame like a dog, and I wanted to do it right. One of my mentors said " If you're not doing it right, they'll die, or they'll f**k off".
I think I've achieved acceptance from Star, my Harris Hawk (Or am I her human)? Because she has done neither.
The Genus Falco contains some of the most beautiful animals on the planet. Now if I was God, and I'd just created the Peregrine, I'd think "good job" but if I was about to create another Falcon, I'd give it a longer, more graceful tail. The grey colour scheme was good, but let's get some pastel shades in there. And maybe make it smaller, so I can have more of them.
Is that why we have Kestrels?
Horace, my Kestrel, (Horace = Horus) always puts a smile on my face, but I still have work to dowith him, and he'll be worth it. He can't put a tear in my eye like Star, but he enriches my life. He's not a big Raptor, but what a beauty.
U look like u know who wardruna and heilung is lol
If not look them up awesome