I bought a 350 5 months ago. It’s my first dual sport. I thought I maybe paid too much but it’s not becoming apparent I got the right bike. The bike is freakin awesome on single track or putting around with my kids on the trail
The footage of the 350 was well shot ,the PDS is also a lot simpler to maintain ( no linKage bearings and seals) plus you can remove the rear shock in a couple of mins with a bit of wriggle jiggle 👍
We need an east coast dirtbike mag. These smooth soft rolling trails are NOTHING like the abuse we put bikes through on the east coast rocks and roots and super tight trails
Warner, I’ve ridden ALL over the U.S. during my career in the U.S. Army and there is a reason no east coast magazine of any substantce exists as I see it-real mountains with huge loose rocks which can tear apart a motorcycle and kill the rider in seconds if you don’t watch what you are doing-or don’t have the skills to be riding there. Moreover, there are local trails which intertwine between conifers at altitudes which make picking up a bike a real exercise after several hours. I found riding out east to be truly enjoyable and challenging. However, the truly hairy life threatening enduro riding of the Rockies and Alaska SIMPLY DO NOT PHYSICALLY EXIST back East. This is not to say there isn’t challenging , fun, beautiful riding back east because there is! However, there are A LOT of incredibly dangerous rocky steep trails west of the Mississippi which gain in altitude far above anything the east could remotely offer to rider’s! I recall a ride with a “kind local” on a local trail where we were on the spine of a 10,000+ foot mountain, it was single track with huge loose rocks, others which had to be dodged, the climb was extremely steep but the most challenging part was the drop off on the right. It was approximately 4,000+ feet down a 70 plus degree slope with cliffs mixed in. The left was a paltry drop at roughly the same angle but it only dropped 500-700 feet. On this trail, if the rider lost it and started down either side, the prospect of continuing to live was nil! I think they do these magazines out west because as fun, challenging and beautiful as east coast riding is, it has nothing which western and Alaskan riding don’t have in larger numbers and far more serious conditions-including riding between trees. I’ve never understood after what I experienced, why west coast reviews are only in the desert or somewhere in southern Utah. I can personally testify there are a lot of very hairy hard to access trails which western locals don’t freely share with outsiders and their difficulty level simply cannot be attained back east. Having said all this I agree with you. Something which highlights the best of eastern riding would be a nice appreciated addition in some form of a riding publication. Safe trails and have fun!
Good stuff about the sprockets and speeds..I have a husky Fe350s and they are spot on about the high rpm's at 60mph with stock 52 tooth rear, but the bike is amazing!
@@yuriabmxr appreciate your response man!!! I definitely came to realize that in my researching as I started looking into different bikes! Ended up going with the CRF250L and going to see where it takes me! Love the BRZ by the way. 🤙🏻
Only as fast as a 125 motocrosser . Once finished a national enduro back in 1978 on 125 penton , last year before KTM took over. Finished 5th overall and cleaned one tight section faster than any other rider in the event. So the speed of a 125 motocross even back in 1978 could kick ass if the rider had good skill set.
@@stmboat Penton was the pre curser to KTM . The dual sports today the higher level ones like KTM and Husqvarna are much more sensitively suspended than the regular motocrossers from the 70's. You would moto cross the same bike you ran an enduro with back then , just put a plate on it . It was no where near as refined and discerned into segments like dual sport, motocrosser , enduro bikes, adventure bikes , as it is today.
@@grxygxds I did. Which is why I choose motorcycles. Sadly this pricing is driving middle class people out of the sport. I’m a 57 year old empty nester. I can afford it. Most 30 year olds cant
@@Dashriprock4 the issue is wage stagnation and increased cost of living. Us younger people have less disposable income due to the sheer cost of existing these days. Adjusted for inflation the bikes are actually on track with what they were charging back in the 80's and 90's
It was on all the European models but didn't get a pass in the US for any of the plated bikes due to emissions. Looks like they finally solved that for '21
Don't worry about service on these or that they are fragile......my Bro has 14K and nothing but 2 valve checks. Tuner and a FMF muffler and it hauls like a 450.
I just bout one not even a week ago all ready had a few problems I received the bike on the 4 28 and the bike had engine problem. So KTM sent me the last motor they could find I'm n florida and it shipped from California.they had my bike back togather and at my house in less than 30 hours. Bike runs so smooth but I think I'm missing the map switch if they come on all models
@@tieoneon1614 good response but if you only needed the bike for tight technical trails you wouldn't get an EXC. The whole purpose of the dual sport is to do both on and off road. The 350 doesn't have enough power for on road imo. If there was a significant price difference between the two it would make more sense to go for the 350... however.. might as well just get the 500
@@Legacyyyyyyyyyyyyyy U need plated bikes to ride a lot of areas. Especially Jeep Trails like this video and throughout the Rockies and Southwest. Dirt bikes are not comfortable riding over 65mph on pavement anyway, but IF u are then yeah the 500 is better option. But 450/500cc bikes are not as fun as smaller cc when trail riding cuz of the characteristics of the motor. Big motors want to spin, loop or stall at slow speeds. Iv had a ton of dirt bikes, my 250's were always the most fun and didnt need giant desert tanks to ride 100 miles in a day. What I prefer now is trucking to an area, off load on backroads and explore with a smaller dual sport. Saves all your energy for the fun riding and can bring everything with u via truck. Just my opinion, hope it helps.
@@tieoneon1614 appreciate the response. Honestly, I ride a 230f so don't get me wrong if I could afford the 350 I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Just feel like I'd end up kicking myself down the road once I got comfortable with the powerband of the 350
For $1.4K less, I can get the CRF450L. While not exactly apples to apples in displacement comparisons, at under $10k, dollar for dollar the Honda seems to be a bargain.
I have been riding street bikes for ever. Just moved to southern Idaho and now I want to move into off-road biking. Is this bike going to be able to handle my fatass?! Lol. I weigh in at 205
For $1.4K less, I can get the CRF450L. While not exactly apples to apples in displacement comparisons, at under $10k, dollar for dollar the Honda seems to be a bargain.
The 450L is a great bike for desert/southwest US. Its not great for tight trails and single track only. It doesnt need a tuner, just an experienced rider.
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I bought a 350 5 months ago. It’s my first dual sport. I thought I maybe paid too much but it’s not becoming apparent I got the right bike. The bike is freakin awesome on single track or putting around with my kids on the trail
How does this compare with the much heavier (but cheaper), Honda 300 CRF-L?
@@MidniteSon my understanding is the Honda is almost 80 pounds heavier
Can someone who just got their MC license enjoy the 350? There are no deals on the Honda, but I may be able to get one on the Beta.
The footage of the 350 was well shot ,the PDS is also a lot simpler to maintain ( no linKage bearings and seals) plus you can remove the rear shock in a couple of mins with a bit of wriggle jiggle 👍
We need an east coast dirtbike mag. These smooth soft rolling trails are NOTHING like the abuse we put bikes through on the east coast rocks and roots and super tight trails
Warner, I’ve ridden ALL over the U.S. during my career in the U.S. Army and there is a reason no east coast magazine of any substantce exists as I see it-real mountains with huge loose rocks which can tear apart a motorcycle and kill the rider in seconds if you don’t watch what you are doing-or don’t have the skills to be riding there. Moreover, there are local trails which intertwine between conifers at altitudes which make picking up a bike a real exercise after several hours. I found riding out east to be truly enjoyable and challenging. However, the truly hairy life threatening enduro riding of the Rockies and Alaska SIMPLY DO NOT PHYSICALLY EXIST back East. This is not to say there isn’t challenging , fun, beautiful riding back east because there is! However, there are A LOT of incredibly dangerous rocky steep trails west of the Mississippi which gain in altitude far above anything the east could remotely offer to rider’s! I recall a ride with a “kind local” on a local trail where we were on the spine of a 10,000+ foot mountain, it was single track with huge loose rocks, others which had to be dodged, the climb was extremely steep but the most challenging part was the drop off on the right. It was approximately 4,000+ feet down a 70 plus degree slope with cliffs mixed in. The left was a paltry drop at roughly the same angle but it only dropped 500-700 feet. On this trail, if the rider lost it and started down either side, the prospect of continuing to live was nil! I think they do these magazines out west because as fun, challenging and beautiful as east coast riding is, it has nothing which western and Alaskan riding don’t have in larger numbers and far more serious conditions-including riding between trees. I’ve never understood after what I experienced, why west coast reviews are only in the desert or somewhere in southern Utah. I can personally testify there are a lot of very hairy hard to access trails which western locals don’t freely share with outsiders and their difficulty level simply cannot be attained back east. Having said all this I agree with you. Something which highlights the best of eastern riding would be a nice appreciated addition in some form of a riding publication. Safe trails and have fun!
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Yeah its making me think the 350 is right for my Pennsylvania riding
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Fantastic videography guys. I could watch hours of this kind of footage.
Good stuff about the sprockets and speeds..I have a husky Fe350s and they are spot on about the high rpm's at 60mph with stock 52 tooth rear, but the bike is amazing!
dang that guy is a great rider
amazing review! just curious, what trails were those?
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Great review. But please use a different microphone in the future.
How Does it compare to a 450excf? Has anyone ridden both on the street?
For the extra cost, is this worth it over the Honda CRF 300L?
This is a completely different class of bike. There really is no comparison.
@@yuriabmxr appreciate your response man!!! I definitely came to realize that in my researching as I started looking into different bikes! Ended up going with the CRF250L and going to see where it takes me! Love the BRZ by the way. 🤙🏻
When do the 2022 bikes hit dealerships
I bought a 2021 ktm 350 excf and it has no map switch if i buy one will it work.i really wold love to know what im missing out on
The bike didn't come with one?
@@DirtBikeMagazine nope when I asked dealership they said they was not for the USA bikes
Only as fast as a 125 motocrosser . Once finished a national enduro back in 1978 on 125 penton , last year before KTM took over. Finished 5th overall and cleaned one tight section faster than any other rider in the event. So the speed of a 125 motocross even back in 1978 could kick ass if the rider had good skill set.
*on a motocross track
@@stmboat No, mixed wooded trail mostly 3 and 4 gear .
@@miniminamanmina3715 Oh you mean not on a dual sport?
@@stmboat Penton was the pre curser to KTM . The dual sports today the higher level ones like KTM and Husqvarna are much more sensitively suspended than the regular motocrossers from the 70's. You would moto cross the same bike you ran an enduro with back then , just put a plate on it . It was no where near as refined and discerned into segments like dual sport, motocrosser , enduro bikes, adventure bikes , as it is today.
@@miniminamanmina3715 I checked your channel you have no content
what info display has? got low fuel light?
The fact that we can talk about a dual sport costing $12,000 with a straight face is indicative of the insanity that pervades motorcycling right now.
my mountain bike costed 15k hahah go look at what some mountain bikes cost nowadays.
@@grxygxds I did. Which is why I choose motorcycles. Sadly this pricing is driving middle class people out of the sport. I’m a 57 year old empty nester. I can afford it. Most 30 year olds cant
@@Dashriprock4 the issue is wage stagnation and increased cost of living. Us younger people have less disposable income due to the sheer cost of existing these days. Adjusted for inflation the bikes are actually on track with what they were charging back in the 80's and 90's
Ha.... it’s a BARGAIN compared to high end Mountain bikes ESPECIALLY the new Specialized e-bikes. I am getting this KTM probably this week....
Get your money Up son
The map switch is news to me... I thought that was only on the XCF-W models?
It was on all the European models but didn't get a pass in the US for any of the plated bikes due to emissions. Looks like they finally solved that for '21
My 20 450 XC has map and tc
Great review! Where were you riding?
Looks like Palmdale California by the aqueducts
Don't worry about service on these or that they are fragile......my Bro has 14K and nothing but 2 valve checks. Tuner and a FMF muffler and it hauls like a 450.
what did he find each time, regarding the clearances?
@@stmboat 1 tight intake and both exhaust were barely out in around 12K
So the map switch has 2 positions off and on, got it.
Does all the 350 come with the map switch
I just bout one not even a week ago all ready had a few problems I received the bike on the 4 28 and the bike had engine problem. So KTM sent me the last motor they could find I'm n florida and it shipped from California.they had my bike back togather and at my house in less than 30 hours. Bike runs so smooth but I think I'm missing the map switch if they come on all models
No map switch on 350 excf
Everytime you service I will still be riding my XR.
why would someone get a 350 instead of the 500.. they are almost identical in weight.. 12 lb difference for an extra 150 cc
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@@tieoneon1614 good response but if you only needed the bike for tight technical trails you wouldn't get an EXC. The whole purpose of the dual sport is to do both on and off road. The 350 doesn't have enough power for on road imo. If there was a significant price difference between the two it would make more sense to go for the 350... however.. might as well just get the 500
@@Legacyyyyyyyyyyyyyy U need plated bikes to ride a lot of areas. Especially Jeep Trails like this video and throughout the Rockies and Southwest. Dirt bikes are not comfortable riding over 65mph on pavement anyway, but IF u are then yeah the 500 is better option. But 450/500cc bikes are not as fun as smaller cc when trail riding cuz of the characteristics of the motor. Big motors want to spin, loop or stall at slow speeds. Iv had a ton of dirt bikes, my 250's were always the most fun and didnt need giant desert tanks to ride 100 miles in a day. What I prefer now is trucking to an area, off load on backroads and explore with a smaller dual sport. Saves all your energy for the fun riding and can bring everything with u via truck. Just my opinion, hope it helps.
@@tieoneon1614 appreciate the response. Honestly, I ride a 230f so don't get me wrong if I could afford the 350 I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Just feel like I'd end up kicking myself down the road once I got comfortable with the powerband of the 350
Weight difference on the 2021 is only 2.7lbs
Good vid, i cant wait rd to dirt.
350 eh was thinking 250 for my self, but now i dono.
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How about the maintenance?...
16 hour oil changes, valves, top end at 100-200 hours, they are intense
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Isnt it enduro not dualsport?
Pretty sure dual sport means it’s capable of both road (road register-able) and dirt travel, don’t quote me on that though
I didn’t see a map switch all I saw was the kill and start switch and the turn high beam and horn switch
I just bought the 2021 and I don't have a map switch 🤔
max speed?
On the road probably pushes 170km/h tapped, holds 135km/h comfortably on dirt
@@heathr6995 are you short about that?
@@exxo7889 with stock gearing, yeah.
Test says 65 mph. About 110 kmh.
So basically it’s going to be trailered
Most of us in California have 55 mph roads, this is not a street bike, haven't that been said you don't want a heavy motor on most tight trails
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why would u buy this over the 500 if the price is the same? weight also feels the same
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For $1.4K less, I can get the CRF450L. While not exactly apples to apples in displacement comparisons, at under $10k, dollar for dollar the Honda seems to be a bargain.
I have been riding street bikes for ever. Just moved to southern Idaho and now I want to move into off-road biking. Is this bike going to be able to handle my fatass?! Lol.
I weigh in at 205
Yeah I think so but I’ll recommend the 500 version
For $1.4K less, I can get the CRF450L. While not exactly apples to apples in displacement comparisons, at under $10k, dollar for dollar the Honda seems to be a bargain.
Have fun paying for a tuner and a ecu to make the bike rideable, there’s your 1.4K. LOL.
I just sold my L, great durable and looking bike, the extra lb’s of the L kill it off road. Although on road the L is great .
The 450L is a great bike for desert/southwest US. Its not great for tight trails and single track only. It doesnt need a tuner, just an experienced rider.