Jim Ross shoots on JBL's 2004 firing
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JR: "Hitler was a good promo guy but when Vince told me he had to go; he had to go."
😂😂😂😂😂
I loved JBL’s character. I think he was the next best heel after Triple H. As far as someone who naturally drew heat.
Completely agree!
JBL was better than HHH. HHH was bland and shoved down our throats, him and his illy tough guy routine
I love how JR said he was done with the guy like they used to hang. 😂
It is weird how so many people have trouble treating pro wrestling like other forms of entertainment. There's the character, and there's the performer
I completely agree obviously but I also get why they treat pro wrestling differently or at least why they did for many years. Up until a couple of years ago the WWE was shown on Sky Sports here in the UK. Regardless of how "real/fake" it is or opinions on things like are they "athletes/performers?" etc.. because of the way pro wrestling was packaged and portrayed for years by the industry itself it is now a unique form of entertainment in a category all by itself. For instance there will never be a time when you can watch Game of thrones or a Batman film on a sports TV channel.
It is stupid and again I am with you completely but I do understand why.
Hitler: I don't have any of his memorabilia 🤣🤣😂😭 JR is awesome!
Don’t watch any of his movies. I’m done with that guy. I actually laughed out loud. JR is a funny guy.
Hahah I fucking laughed so hard 😂😂😂
He doesn’t watch his movies either.
I think part of the problem too was what he did was actually illegal there. Remember this was in Germany, not the USA
I know, he should have went all out with the moustache.
@@michaellandon1960 He could be arrested for real
@@ravanpee1325 how come communism killed more people than hitler but its ok to support communism still?
@@usa5439 What are you a fucking moron that Germany introduce a ban of Nazi supporting gestures 🤣
@@ravanpee1325 idiot you're missing my point. Stalin killed more than hitler yet somehow the communism symbol is still allowed but nazi stuff is banned.
JBL spoke perfect sense about this, and he was, and is not, wrong.
you're defending an admitted sexual abuser and borderline rapist. Go read the stories, which john has admitted to, about how he would stick his finger in new guys asses against their will in the showers, harass them while naked, and threaten them if they told anyone.
Try to defend disgusting trash less.
J.R talking about Hitler like he's talking about Cornette or something.
Cos he is ignorant in this matter
You either like JBL and see nothing wrong, or dislike him and take him to the woodshed on everything. He's not a guy who inspires middle ground.
It's not about liking him or not, he literally broke the law. I think someone who broke the law should have consequences to their actions don't you?
I hate his guts so I agree lol. However, it is fake, it has been touted as entertainment. So if it's good enough for DiCaprio it's good enough for JBL. And Waldo vonerich, baron von Raschke the von steigers, chits v9n colt. Its wrestling tradition.
Not true. I don’t like him personally, from what I’ve heard from everyone who knows the guy, but I agree with him on this issue. He was playing a character.
@@JM1993951 in the time where everyone is offended and outraged by everything, how is it ok to bring up Hitler at all if you're not bashing him? Is it because it was against white people? No one gives a shit because Jews are pretty white, at least in America. This country is so fucked. Can't imagine if someone did/said something, 20 years ago even, about American slaves or some shit. Everything needs to be across the board or nothing at all. I prefer the latter but people aren't gonna pick and choose what's "ok" to be offended by.
If you stand up to him he won’t mess with you.
Jim Ross nails it. Wrestling is nowadays a memorized play!
JR was being as honest as possible. That's why he sounded the way he did. Never sugar coats anything, despite his own views.
"They got better things to do like earning a living and buying groceries".....could use that line to describe everything these days.
JR: "The Hitler gimmick just didn't go over the way Vince thought it would. Vince told me he didn't realize there were so many Jewish fans. Needless to say it didn't last long, because at the end of the day, we needed to boost our profits and Hitler wasn't the way to do it."
Jbl was making fun of germans as nazi's, not doing some homage in support of the Nazi ideology, either way maybe not a smart move but no different to back in the day with Sgt slaughter and the gulf war angle with the iron sheik etc against hogan, that's what heels do, they get heat, history bad or good whether you like it or not it happened so you just can't cherry pick what to use, maybe making fun of victims is skating on thin ice nowadays, but protagonists?? Weird paradigm.
That was a weird gimmick for SGT Slaughter. Why the hell did they turn him into an Iraqi sympathiser and think it would work?
@@martinputt6421 desperate move because business was down and in decline, they had to get some serious heat with somebody that was a popular patriot in order to exploit the gulf war And play on the country's feelings at the time, by the time they did that it hadn't had enough time to build before it was over and I guess when business is down it stays down no matter what heat you try and get, but yeah I agree it flopped massively
The difference is that one was in America where there is no law against it and one was in Germany where there is a law EXPLICITLY banning it.
@@TheChodax yes but that's also like england explicitly banning any reference to losing the war of independence over the colonies of the United States, it's very subjective considering germany was the protagonists of ww2, like it or not peoples grandfather's fought and died as a result of resistance to the Nazi ideology, why should countries who fought against it be subjected to silence on the matter? It happened and it's something you have to accept responsibility for, an entire race of people were being exterminated in the process, I'm sure German people of today are ashamed of the things of the past and don't want to be reminded of it but the vast majority of the rest of the world find it hard to forget for obvious reasons, pro wrestling has always been on the cutting edge of political cultural and social issues, it's how heels get heat and babyfaces get over.
And I'm not getting at germany or Germans in any way because the Germans of today I'm sure are very good people, and going by my experience of those I've interacted with they are.
Goose stepping in Germany is incredibly illegal. Even if the moral implications don’t personally offend you, he went to another country and broke the law. There had to be some kind of punishment.
And JR bangs on about first amendment right, err he doesn't have those in Germany. JR is tone deaf here.
Curious, is it illegal in a scripted environment? It is illegal to smoke in Great Britain but it is legal to do it in a scripted environment. R-Truth smoked a cigarette live on raw in the UK once and the crowd started chanting "That's illegal!" But it technically wasn't
He's an American . Free speech
@@americafirstlibertyinmichi1676 it's in Germany, German law applies!
Under acting conditions?
Also he got fired for his job in AMERICA
JBl = The Piers Morgan of the wrestling industry.
The polar opposite of Morgan...lmao
JBL was the BEST heel on Smackdown I enjoyed him as World Champion I wish they gave him a run with the World Heavyweight Belt too.
He was, absolutely. My best friend at the time used to bellyache and moan about JBL, he detested him. Once JBL Retired, he was there like: "Yeah he was fucking good actually" and stuff. He played his role perfectly and as time passes, that's what will be remembered.
Without JBL and the way he was booked, Cena becoming Champion wouldn't have been as successful as it was. JBL (and HHH) were the Monster Heels that WWE needed in order to build the next big Babyfaces for the future.
JBL was a great heel... Maybe to good! He was undeniable Texan because he could piss off a Sooner crowd! We threw everything at him. He got more free (flying) beer than any heel could get in the buisness.
I dunno, The Rock and McMahon got a lot, when SC Steve Austin drove the beer truck into the arena!
I love that JR doesn’t know the difference between the First and Second Amendment, and is still kinda miffed as to, “What’s so bad about making Nazi gestures on TV?”
The levels of ignorance and lack of awareness are horrifying. Why do people feel compelled to run their mouths when they know so little?
Nazi heels were a standard schtick in wrestling. You getting worked up is proof of how easy people are marks.
@@sstrykert what he did was, at the time, the equivalent of a felony in Germany. If convicted it, at the time, carried the possibility of ten years in prison. Nazi heels have never, and I mean never been a standard or accepted schtick in Germany. I am literally German; It was wildly inappropriate and he was very lucky the government didn't want to make an example of him, or fight for extradition.
Wrestling is not special. It is not immune to criticism or things it should not do. This was one of them; And speaking personally, I do not want Americans coming to my fucking country and breaking the law. You will respect our laws; That's why we have them. Americans are arrogant as fuck. Even if he was a heel, it was clearly stated to be illegal here, and "b-b-but i'm a wrassler" is not a defense to coming into our nation and not obeying our laws.
@@ParadoxicalThird perhaps you can ask Merkel& her ilk to respect the laws of other countries then?
Conversely, you've never really had free speech, so when you perceive Americans as rude, we're just free. Sometimes we forget other nations c!ck their people in the modern era.
Lmao shut up
So sorry JR isn't your level of woke
oh he's just doin the nazi salute, no big deal... smfh
It's illegal in Germany. You'll get arrested
Posture harder JR.
JR is a SIMP
JBL is the modern greatest heel of all time! 2nd only to HHH or Edge!
That would make him 3rd? Who's first edge or HHH
@@drewjames2237 I got to say Edge, I left some leeway for debate but Edge was a multi time champ where as JBL was one and done! HHH flipped heel to face a bunch, so ultimate opportunist takes the cake for me!
Jbl is a natural heel but i always preferred edge as a babyface
The repo man is hands down the best heel in history. Sorry guys
His character was trash. I prefer Carlto. At least he spit on ppl
I remember not knowing anything about house shows existing as a kid. I though everyone wrestled on either Raw or Smackdown, 4 times a month not including PPV's. Now I know it's much higher, big oof.
My first live event was a house show and it didn't make sense to me until we were actually there (I was like 13). It was on a Wednesday night or something, and I was like "where are all the cameras?"
Felt bad, but they put on more proper finishes at house shows from what I remember. Like just straight up clean endings.
I didn’t know about house shows up until just a couple of weeks ago and I’m 30yo…
I couldn’t tell you when I learned that House Shows were a thing. But I was also unaware they existed as a kid. I just always thought that the wrestlers wrestled at the TV shows and PPVs. Then you learn there was a time where they were working 300+ days a year.
I knew about them because they use to show the highlights from the house shows on raw sometimes. I use to b like omg it look better than the live shows
Only real wrestling fans remember them showing the highlights tho
Jbl was a good heel
Only because the bar on smackdown was so low at the time. He really wasn't that good
well, this was in germany right? back in those days they had a ban on these type of symbols and gestures and speech, its a serious deal, like you could get locked up. They lifted those bans since. But i understand what JR is saying, he was doing it as a character.. are they going to cancel actors who played a ww2 german dude in a movie? or wore a certain outfit during a Broadway play? Of course not.
It's sure getting to that point. It's getting to the point where the most gruesome horror movie monster is a white man saying boys shouldn't play with dolls or simply having an opposing opinion. I have no doubt that they'll probably start cancelling people for playing a prejudice character
John Layfield is a guy who was exposed as weak tough guy in the brawl for all. But as a wrestler he was a decent performer.
Boxing completely different to real fight, 90% of people in WWE in a real fight would straight shoot for a takedown
@@devonAFC 90 percent of those guys had no true boxing talent. He was exposed nevertheless.
JBL was money my guy. One of the longest reigning WWE champions ever
@@WafcPassion John Charles Layfield was a bully who was exposed as a weak winer
@@Dakatari Thanks Michael Cole
JR coming across *terribly* here. Why would you upload this?
Judging by the comments on here there seems to be many young people who don't really understand the history, nor do they understand that American civil liberty amendments do not apply when American's are overseas. Other countries have their own laws and American's are subject to them when they are in the sovereign territory of said nations.
You could not make the stupidity up eh?
Because you’re a snowflake
@@TheChodax It was 100 years ago who cares
@@bossbaby5936you are replying to a 3 year old comment so maybe you do! You took time out of your day for a nonsense comment! 😂
Have a lot of respect for JBL in regard to working hard & achieving a lot more than most people thought he would. As for Nazi Germany comments well you just can't get away with that in a civillised world. Being Jewish myself I don't want to over react but can't ignore it obviously.
Yeah but that goes the same for every historical event.
It's the same for Indians in America. Its the same for the Scotts in England, the Indian in England. The same for the Greeks and the Africans. Hell if you know a lot about ancient history everyone could be offended since everyone was bigoted towards others and conquered them for one selfish reason or another.
It's time we moved on from that event. Keep history in our mind but stop beating one historical event into our social consciousness over and over again for propaganda reasons. I mean go to Israel or watch people who are critics of contemporary Isralie politics.
They literally all call each other Hitler or Hitler supporters and draw cartoons of him. Its absolutely ludicrous!
@@jamesj6638 you are quite correct. What I meant really was people moan complain about everything now & nobody is allowed a different opinion. Yes many Empires in world history have done evil things going back to the start of human history. Oh well time to forgive & move on 🙂
@Brandon Harker lol maybe
@@sithvsjedi9696
I agree man! Thank you
Germany isn't civilized.
Naw. That was not a good idea. To go to Germany and do that was over the line. If he did that on his own without being told to be should've been fired. That's just like calling a black wrestler the n word and making a slave joke while in the South. There's heat and there is anger.
Boohoo cry more carebears
Didn't work for Grace Slick either... Go figure.
I dont know if insulting the Northeast is a good way to defend a Nazi gesture, but JR has frankly lost some of the fastball. It's astonishing to see how young Tony acts in comparison.
If you think that’s what he was saying then you misunderstood his comment. He was saying that it was a poor decision to do but that he wondered if it was made a much bigger deal as a perceived controversy than it actually was. So he was saying “was everyone around the United States truly upset and finding this to be a huge deal or could it just be this geographical area that is upset and we are assuming that their opinion speaks for everyone”. It’s a pretty common thing that people think that the opinion of those that surround them is the opinion of everyone, not understanding or considering that the people that surround them probably think commonly to the way they do and that maybe another area doesn’t have those same thoughts. An easy example is a friend of mine couldn’t understand how Kanye’s shoe deal with adidas was so valuable because he doesn’t see his shoes on a bunch of people. But he wasn’t factoring that maybe those shoes aren’t commonly purchased in our geographical area but that doesn’t mean they aren’t a big seller somewhere else. The actions and habits of one small area doesn’t necessarily reflect the whole.
JR looks totally ignorant here, they should have edited this out. Not a good look.
Because he doesn’t say what fits your narrative huh?
@@boblablaw1939 what the narrative of history? I didn't write it so it is not my narrative. JR didn't outright condone it, therefore he is an apologist for a stupid hate crime.
@@TheChodax liberals always try to turn shit around on people. Like they don't run msm, this dude talking about "narrative" 🙄. If you said something about black people or gays, he'd virtue signal until his little head explodes.
It's people with your mindset who've ruined wrestling and are responsible for the product being in the state it is today.
Personally I find it hilarious
I love the character but I don't like the real person behind it.
JR IS RIGHT Noone cared in Texas JBL was a great heel and character and could have been way more ...
He wasn't IN Texas. I'm german; I don't give a fucking single shit what Texas wants or thinks. He came into our country and broke the law, which Americans seem incapable of not doing. He was lucky he didn't get made an example of, bluntly. At the time this happened it carried a ten year prison sentence if convicted.
You do not have first amendment rights in my country.
JR speaking facts
Yes he showed his Prejudice, facts
What Jim Ross fails to realize is that's not entertaining.
Cry harder.
@@phantom8926 your comment makes no sense.
@@sylvesterstanton7488 Your whining that it's not entertaining when it's meant to make you boo and hate him. That's the whole point of it. You snowflakes make everything less amusing.
@@phantom8926 Snowflake I'm not. But for JBL character to be a badass cowboy but to go to Germany and all he can think of is to goose step is down right unoriginal but him getting lazy and unprepared. Hence not entertaining as for you sir you are not original nor entertaining if right wing putdowns is your badass character.
@@phantom8926 yeah genocide is so entertaining right? Fucking halfwit.
Holocaust denial and nearly anything nazi related, especially salutes are illegal in Germany. Not that it affects me, but i know it's a criminal offence there. I'd remove this upload, JR wasn't to know.
English Please
JBL is a wrestling god.
Lmao
Wow So JR thinks people in the North East dont worry about food and bills. Wow I remember why I stopped listening to him before.
Only heroes goose step
I don’t understand how it applies when it’s done on a scripted show?
They said JBL use to Bully wrestlers in locker room...Seriously? Yes of course he was a big guy,but arent they all? I cant believe someone didnt knock his ass out. Here at the Mason-Dixon line if you push your chest out,theres always someone to push it back in.
Joey Styles knocked JBL out after being tired of being bullied by JBL. The big tough wrestler got knocked out by a 170lb announcer.
Lol that’s not threatening, at all. The south lost and bad. 😆
@@jamesmccormick875 yep. 😆
@@SeanMichaelWesley dude,like thats really suppose to matter to me 150 years later ? 🙄
Bullying isn't just about who can win in a fight. I'm sure there were guys who were capable but didn't want to fight at work for obvious reasons. There are consequences beyond potentially taking a few punches. What's it going to mean for your place in the lockerroom and your place in the company?
JBL was one of the most "expendable wrestlers" in the WWE. I really could have cared less when he was fired.
How much less could you have cared?
Yea I felt that same way as a kid but when he was gone, you felt it.
He was a great heel and easily hateable as a kid lmao
Hilarious
play a hitler character in a movie and that's ok, play him as a character in a ring and all hell breaks loose
Never knew good ol' JR was a simp
Jr read the bible, I'm sure. But, the words are thus, "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana
Using nazism to get cheap heat? In GERMANY?!?! God I hate jbl
JBL can't use I'm just playing a character defence unless it was scripted for him to do that. I somehow doubt the writers came up with that.
JBL should've been arrested in Germany for that salute. It was illegal over there to even think about doing that.
You should be arrested for that avatar.
the problem is doing the goose step and the hitler thing is not entertainment... if offensive in germany and against the law... he should have gone to prison for it..
You sound dumb bruh.
HAHAHHA shut the fuck up snowflake.
Still shouldn't have warranted his firing in the states. You fucking weaklings need to learn to let shit the fuck go.
@@phantom8926 nothing funnier than an internet hardman calling others weaklings. I'm sure you are the 'come at me bro' type.
@@phantom8926 lmao one day it won't be talking tough online and you'll be fucked.
Hope you ain't flying a Ukranian flag in your bio then... They aren't even NEO-Ns... They are descendants of the originals.
It seems silly to mention that Bradshaw isn’t in favor of nazism? Have you looked around the globe recently? Or even just America?
Insert the Kobe soft meme here!
I like JR but I just don’t think there’s anytime to defend being a Nazi
He's a disgrace, I've lost all respect for him, clearly been on the bottle far too much recently and his judgement is severely compromised.
@@TheChodax I don’t like how he tried to blame Debra for the abuse back when it happened but nowadays he admits his bestie Stone Cold was wrong. That’s what originally made me weary of him. The way he totally buried Chyna and then his channel ( which I’m sure he signs off on what’s posted on it ) added insult to injury and would post shorter clips and highlights of him just assassinating that poor souls character. Now, yesterday I heard him repeatedly defend being a Nazi. I’m blown away and agree with you I think he’s drinking a lot or there is just something misogynistic and extremely dark going on there mixed with a little white power. Yikes
@@SnowWhiteTheU2 yep I think his character has always been suspect but the booze is clearly removing some inhibitions these days. Sadly I think he is not in a good place, maybe due to the passing of his wife he is a bit of a rudderless ship. This clip is downright embarrassing for Conrad and I hope he has the good sense to remove it, you do not want to be associated with stuff like this, it was very poor judgement to upload.
@@SnowWhiteTheU2 the Stone Cold thing idk about, I've seen a video where even Austin's ex wife says Debra was nuts. Since Austin isn't going around beating up bitches, she probably put her hands on him. Then got some equality.
@@kenadams9376 Austin’s first ex wife is a drug addict fiend with 0 credibility. The only person who’s nice to her or has anything nice to say about Lady Blossom, is Missy Hyatt. RUclips anything about Debra or Debra shoots, and you’ll never hear anything bad about her. Tells you all you need to know.
JR probably defending him as there both Texans
Jr isn't a texan
Also his argument about free speach is really stupid outside the US where other laws apply
Wow I knew that Jim Ross the man was a lot worse than good ol JR the character, but I did not know he was a bigot, it would be the equivalent of a wrestler in America dressing up as a confederate soldier, some lines you just don't cross, of course they are has always had questionable character
Not a single thing he said was bigotry.
@@davidgraham8299 lol I don't even remember making this comment, maybe I was talking about in general and not this specific video, because he is a POS