I side more with Randy on this one. There is more to fishing than catching and business. FFS isn't going away. It doesn't have to, but it isn't wrong to put limits on it in competition, etc...
@@perfectleveladventurefishi619 I like them both but have begun to lose more respect for Ben as I see him debate Randy. It just seems like Ben is more interested in being right and he discounts and ignores what he doesn't want to hear. Then, he flat out doesn't give Randy any grace when Randy offers it to him. Perhaps that's a generational thing, perhaps it's just that Ben feels he worked for what he got and is entitled disrespect who he wants if he feels disrespected. The reality is that other sports have found compromises with technology, so can fishing.
I side with "Uncle Randy" on this one. Sorry, but I say let your knowledge of bass behavior along with your rod and reel do the talking, not a piece of technology!!!!
Im a former steelhead fisherman who's been bass fishing for a year, but nevertheless, this FFS "debate " in regards to tournaments is not diificult. Lets say some new tech company invented an eye implant that allowed anyone to shoot like Steph Curry. Would anyone still watch the NBA ?? FFS seems like the same thing. Now any Joe Schmo can spend a year studying basic lure usage for water temps, color and season, go buy a $150k loaded boat, and become a legit tournament guy. Once its that easy, no one will care about tournaments. You can already see it the college bowl season. The 4 team playoff, along with the transfer portal has made the smaller bowls irrelevant. People are not so interested anymore. This year, the only 2 non playoff bowls anyone talks about are the Orange Bowl Georgia / FSU disaster and the damn Pop Tart Bowl. And only because the winners got the giant edible Pop Tart. Not everything improves with tech.
Milliken is the clown prince of bass fishing...lately... he's become an abrasive loud mouth...kinda like a pro wrestling character. I wonder if its really him these days or his WWF persona we're seeing?
I don’t know if I would blame it on YT changing him. I was a very early subscriber of Ben’s. He only had a thousand or so followers and videos getting a couple hundred views. I found it hard to follow his videos after just a few months. It wasn’t because he wasn’t a good fisherman. It was the sanctimonious attitude.
Why is there an issue.because good Ole randy thinks he's gonna put a stop to using fish sonar in tournaments.lol really.if you don't want to use it you don't have to .maybe you should just throw out all your electronics period and be a bad ass fisherman and prove to the world.that you won't use it because your against it like the fish just jump in the boat automatically if you have ffs.lmfao kooks your all.a bunch of kooks .and 🎉all of you cry babies should ask your mom and daddy to.drive you to the lake and pick you up when it gets dark .because that's what you all.sound like..oh it's too.expensive.oh that's cheating oh bra he only.won because.he has ffs.how about cry to your mommy
What it’s about is people walking around like a Banty rooster thinking they have performed something so amazing by catching a 30# bag usingFFS once you have learned the proper setting just watch the screen see how they if they don’t bite change lures or ride around till you find some more as far as me slamming little Benny yes IAM gonna do it every time I see him because he is a Jack wagon but I commented on Jacob wheeler blog and I told him that FFS tarnished accomplishments I said to him that you are one of the top fishermen in the country but that’s not completely accurate your one of the top forward da wing sonar fishermen there not the same please tell me why iam wrong there was not a single word that I’ve typed in the comment section that was disrespectful and I haven’t got an answer back yet
Well if it really was "Ben versus Randy" we all know that would be a blowout! Ben will do things with his career Randy could only dream about! His knack for finding and catching fish is incredible😊
If by “knack” you mean incredible at using FFS then yes. What this season has proven over and over is Ben is great on lakes where FFS is effective & lousy on lakes where the conditions don’t favor FFS. He’s a one trick ponytail. I mean pony.
I've seen some videos from both but I don't really watch either nowadays. I used to watch Randy's videos a few years ago but when he started to put out negative ranting videos complaining about other fishing channels I unsubbed and started passing on clicking his videos. Can't say anything about the other dude I've only seen a few of his videos. What's the TLDR on the drama this time around?
Don’t think being from Nebraska makes Ben a yankee and Ben has about a five time bigger following than Randy. I watch Randy some but I get tired of his piss and moan sessions every other video about FFS. He thinks since he’s been fishing fifty years his opinion is the only one that matters and if you don’t see things his way you’re bad for fishing and don’t know anything.
I can't hear anything you are saying with that much line on your reel sir! lol oh yeah and Randy whines too much for me, most of his stuff feels like clickbait
Pretty easy when you got a live feed fkin camera showing you exactly where they are and how they're relating to your lure . Bro FFS is no different than spotlighting deer. If someone CAN'T catch them with FFS, they may as well give up. Not impressed whatsoever with any bass or bag of bass caught while using that shit.
Randy whines and moans WAY too much, and he has a much higher opinion of himself than is warranted. So many of his videos are like, "You won't believe the top secret bass technique I am going to share...", and then he goes on to talk about some generic method that fishermen have been using for decades. Milliken is much more knowledgeable, more successful both in RUclips and fishing, but can be a little abrasive at times. Also, what the hell does being a "yankee" have to do with anything. My dude, it is 2023, not 1823.
At times yes, but the shit he's whining about most of the time is really important to the future of the sport. I only wish more pros would just come out and say FFS should be banned instead of hem hawing around with their answers so they don't get in trouble with sponsors.
Never take advice from a guy who sports a man bun🎣🎣😂🤣😂
i would say full blown MULLET
And he dresses his daughter, oh wait, son like a girl.
Well said.
I'm concerned about the amount of line on your reel dawg 😂 respool that thing dude good lord 😂
inflation bro
@@perfectleveladventurefishi619 🤣🤣🤣 fair brother fair 👏
I side more with Randy on this one. There is more to fishing than catching and business. FFS isn't going away. It doesn't have to, but it isn't wrong to put limits on it in competition, etc...
After watching money bass and many other channels i dont even know what to think. I like both them guys!
@@perfectleveladventurefishi619 I like them both but have begun to lose more respect for Ben as I see him debate Randy. It just seems like Ben is more interested in being right and he discounts and ignores what he doesn't want to hear. Then, he flat out doesn't give Randy any grace when Randy offers it to him. Perhaps that's a generational thing, perhaps it's just that Ben feels he worked for what he got and is entitled disrespect who he wants if he feels disrespected. The reality is that other sports have found compromises with technology, so can fishing.
I side with "Uncle Randy" on this one. Sorry, but I say let your knowledge of bass behavior along with your rod and reel do the talking, not a piece of technology!!!!
i feel what is being said! real men are no scoping!
Controversy breeds clicks.
Great point
So does name dropping in the video title (this one) and then providing no substance or anything of any interest. Riding the coattails for clicks…
The sport of bass fishing will only stay pure with traditions and conversation.
CONSERVATION
@@davidclark7662 i feel that youtube fishing is seen as animal cruelty
Just subbed👍
Im a former steelhead fisherman who's been bass fishing for a year, but nevertheless, this FFS "debate " in regards to tournaments is not diificult.
Lets say some new tech company invented an eye implant that allowed anyone to shoot like Steph Curry. Would anyone still watch the NBA ??
FFS seems like the same thing. Now any Joe Schmo can spend a year studying basic lure usage for water temps, color and season, go buy a $150k loaded boat, and become a legit tournament guy.
Once its that easy, no one will care about tournaments.
You can already see it the college bowl season. The 4 team playoff, along with the transfer portal has made the smaller bowls irrelevant. People are not so interested anymore.
This year, the only 2 non playoff bowls anyone talks about are the Orange Bowl Georgia / FSU disaster and the damn Pop Tart Bowl. And only because the winners got the giant edible Pop Tart.
Not everything improves with tech.
wow for real this is a very good point!
New sub
Agreed, and add some line to your spool 😜
😳 you're about out of line
How do you mean?
He means on your spool.. @@perfectleveladventurefishi619
Never heard of him. Of course I’m curious now and have to see for myself 😉
His vids from 2019 are just great
Me too 🤣
New sub , I've never heard of him
Check him out! GOAT
Milliken is the clown prince of bass fishing...lately... he's become an abrasive loud mouth...kinda like a pro wrestling character. I wonder if its really him these days or his WWF persona we're seeing?
I hav never looked at it that way. I can see what ur saying. RUclips does change people and the charactor
I don’t know if I would blame it on YT changing him. I was a very early subscriber of Ben’s. He only had a thousand or so followers and videos getting a couple hundred views. I found it hard to follow his videos after just a few months. It wasn’t because he wasn’t a good fisherman. It was the sanctimonious attitude.
@@Boethius411 for real no joke, i had to look up the word sanctimonious.
@@perfectleveladventurefishi619 lol… my bad friend.
@@Boethius411 Its all good. enlightenment
When did fishing turn into a drama?
ur so right... when did it get like this!!! why cant we all be friends
at the same time life turned into a drama - when man was first born! What's not divided anymore. Like my hat says, "just shut up and fish"!
@@bruceraiken2806 I want that HAT
When money entered the arena……it always works that way, NASCAR proved it, college football is next to go…..
Ya did what you said you were gonna do... 'I'm just gonna leave it right here & not say anything else...'🤣 Good on ya Mate!
for real i dont know whos right and whos wrong
The issue is FFS in tournament bass fishing not individuals slamming others as an alternative or a part of to making a case for a position.
Why is there an issue.because good Ole randy thinks he's gonna put a stop to using fish sonar in tournaments.lol really.if you don't want to use it you don't have to .maybe you should just throw out all your electronics period and be a bad ass fisherman and prove to the world.that you won't use it because your against it like the fish just jump in the boat automatically if you have ffs.lmfao kooks your all.a bunch of kooks .and 🎉all of you cry babies should ask your mom and daddy to.drive you to the lake and pick you up when it gets dark .because that's what you all.sound like..oh it's too.expensive.oh that's cheating oh bra he only.won because.he has ffs.how about cry to your mommy
What it’s about is people walking around like a Banty rooster thinking they have performed something so amazing by catching a 30# bag usingFFS once you have learned the proper setting just watch the screen see how they if they don’t bite change lures or ride around till you find some more as far as me slamming little Benny yes IAM gonna do it every time I see him because he is a Jack wagon but I commented on Jacob wheeler blog and I told him that FFS tarnished accomplishments I said to him that you are one of the top fishermen in the country but that’s not completely accurate your one of the top forward da wing sonar fishermen there not the same please tell me why iam wrong there was not a single word that I’ve typed in the comment section that was disrespectful and I haven’t got an answer back yet
Randy is right
this spring is going to break some fishing
He's a Yankee?! What the #$@& does that mean?! Are you a stars and bars lover?
Stars & Bars? LOL! Better than Rainbows.
put some line on that spool
Ama get me some snibbles and bits snibbles and bits..u need a tissue for your issues 😢
You need more fishing line bruh 🤣🤣🤣
inflation Bro
@@perfectleveladventurefishi619 Backing Bro.
Well if it really was "Ben versus Randy" we all know that would be a blowout! Ben will do things with his career Randy could only dream about! His knack for finding and catching fish is incredible😊
Randy has OLD man strength! Dont turn your back on him!
@@perfectleveladventurefishi619true that still think Ben will get it, would be close😂
you don't what you're talking about
If by “knack” you mean incredible at using FFS then yes. What this season has proven over and over is Ben is great on lakes where FFS is effective & lousy on lakes where the conditions don’t favor FFS. He’s a one trick ponytail. I mean pony.
dude fill your reel up with line you'll cast further, holy cow you've been living under a rock lol
hard times, inflation BRO
I've seen some videos from both but I don't really watch either nowadays. I used to watch Randy's videos a few years ago but when he started to put out negative ranting videos complaining about other fishing channels I unsubbed and started passing on clicking his videos. Can't say anything about the other dude I've only seen a few of his videos. What's the TLDR on the drama this time around?
Mostly FFS. real talk everyone gets but hurt now!
Milliken seems alright, but forward facing sonar is some bs that will ruin fishing. I side with Blaukat on this one.
i like them both but im starting to see that FFS is going to ruin it all
If you are a follower of tournament fishing ask yourself this could Benny be catching these bags he does without ffs be honest
not just him everyone
I saw miliken spit out pieces of line into the boat and water. Time is money I guess but that is ignorant in my fishing world.
i saw that and your right
nobody cares about a piece of fishing line 😂
you’re soft 🤣
@@phillipmonk2855 how is that soft
Ben Milliken will never achieve anything close to what Randy has done.
Randy has been around the world
Lmfao .
That is some funny shit .
You all are barney's
😂🤡
Randy’s 100% right about the industry today!!! People just hate to hear the Truth without warm and fuzzy 😂🤣
yep
Don’t think being from Nebraska makes Ben a yankee and Ben has about a five time bigger following than Randy. I watch Randy some but I get tired of his piss and moan sessions every other video about FFS. He thinks since he’s been fishing fifty years his opinion is the only one that matters and if you don’t see things his way you’re bad for fishing and don’t know anything.
ALL the Texas guys call him the Yank! But Your right in so many ways!
As someone from Missouri- Nebraska is most certainly a Union state- therefore they were Yankees.
Randy is absolutely right about FFS. It’s the beginning of the end of the sport
i feel that the sport of bass fishing died a long time ago. Pros putting sponsorship all over their body's was the END..@@jordangourley3955
But FFS is bad for fishing. 🤷
I can't hear anything you are saying with that much line on your reel sir! lol oh yeah and Randy whines too much for me, most of his stuff feels like clickbait
lol good sir i hope to get new line this weekend! So right, SHAMEFUL
Team MF'er right here! 😂👍
I like ZARK
Mainly, I don't like the way blauket never actually demonstrates his extraordinary claims with any fishing VIDEO. Talk is cheap.
I see that also and Milli Gets them BIG'n
You fish wrong.
Milliken cannot catch fish without FFS.
i wish he would change it up sometimes
i would never sub anyone who just disses and talks about other people , you included... its about fishing man , the fish don't care .
This whole debate is really off feelings. Older generation vs new generation mind set.
Hes not a good person
who and why for reel??
i think i think people
like randy blaukat and others are just haters and are jealous of ben millikin bc he catches giant bass no matter what 😂
i feel this... peanut butter and jealous
He catches monster and is a heck of an angler but he has no character
Pretty easy when you got a live feed fkin camera showing you exactly where they are and how they're relating to your lure . Bro FFS is no different than spotlighting deer. If someone CAN'T catch them with FFS, they may as well give up. Not impressed whatsoever with any bass or bag of bass caught while using that shit.
BM is a arrogant self centered DB.
Hes not a Yankee, hes a mid westerner. Yankees are worse
Randy whines and moans WAY too much, and he has a much higher opinion of himself than is warranted. So many of his videos are like, "You won't believe the top secret bass technique I am going to share...", and then he goes on to talk about some generic method that fishermen have been using for decades. Milliken is much more knowledgeable, more successful both in RUclips and fishing, but can be a little abrasive at times. Also, what the hell does being a "yankee" have to do with anything. My dude, it is 2023, not 1823.
LOL.
Randy is a whiner!!
At times yes, but the shit he's whining about most of the time is really important to the future of the sport. I only wish more pros would just come out and say FFS should be banned instead of hem hawing around with their answers so they don't get in trouble with sponsors.