Flails Are The MOST UNDERRATED Weapons In Elden Ring!
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
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00:00 Intro
0:50 Setup
3:30 Night’s Cavalry
4:40 Dragon Cheese
5:50 Cavalry Cheese
7:10 Crystalian
8:20 Margit
9:10 Guardian Golem
9:55 Godrick
11:05 Red Wolf of Radagon
11:50 Rennala
13:10 Ghost Loretta
14:50 Astel
17:10 Stonedigger Troll
17:55 Demi-Human Queen Gilika
18:55 Gary
20:20 Draconic Tree Sentinel
21:48 Erdtree Avatar
23:35 Goldfrey
24:26 Cleanrot Knight
25:00 Morgott
29:24 Fire Giant
32:00 Godskin Duo
37:47 Placidusax
40:20 Maliketh
42:35 Commander Niall
44:22 Putrid Avatar
45:40 Mohg, Lord of Blood
48:55 Loretta, Knight of the Haligtree
49:52 Malenia
52:36 Radahn
54:34 Godskin Noble (Volcano Manor)
56:00 Rykard
58:16 Erdtree Avatar (Regen Tear)
59:00 More Rykard
1:03:00 More Regen
1:03:50 Even More Rykard
1:07:00 Gideon
1:08:30 So much more Rykard that the old Timestamp Guy quit and we had to hire a new one
1:12:35 Mimic Tear
1:13:48 Regal Ancestor Spirit
1:15:08 Valiant Gargoyles
1:16:20 Fia’s Champions
1:18:25 Fortissax
1:19:35 Hoarah Loux
1:21:40 Radagon & Elden Beast 
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Fun Fact: The family heads is supposed to resemble Necromancer Garris' wife and two kids. Also, at max level, it has D strength, A dexterity, and D intelligence. D-A-D, peak fromsoft lore
I don't think the dad thing is intentional, but I'm going to pretend it is because that's GENIUS
Magnificent.
Pinwheel Reference 😯
Did he kill them? or did he just use the bodies on for the weapon?
@@arthas236no he resorted to necromancy to attempt to bring his family back
Fun fact about the Family Heads flail. It and one other weapon, the Helphen's Steeple, are the only weapons whose weapon arts take no stamina to use. Making it viable for a no stamina run.
I only recently discovered how powerful family heads actually are, and it’s so much fun to use the weapon art and shred bosses
If I had a nickel for every Dragonbarrow boss you can cheese by making them fall off a bridge, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that one of those bosses is a dragon with wings.
one time i was fighting this dragon, it flew 50 feet in the air, landed on absolutely nothing, hung there, after a while it started "falling" (in place) and it died 20 seconds later...
@@theeliteterrarian1888 This is my favorite bedtime story. Gonna read this every night. xD
I know you don't cheese it by pushing it off a bridge, but the black blade kindred can be made to fall off a cliff and perish as well
ode to valley of drakes
there’s also the bbk and deathbird, they don’t fall off a bridge but they still can die of fall damage
Your videos almost never flail me
Ok bud
They never flail to entertain lol
Oh, you flailterer!
Please, all of you, stop
Awww he got us, you guys…. He got us 😒
For anyone curious about that Greyll cheese, the game has a failsafe where entities that are considered falling for 12 seconds (players included) are killed. That cheese seems to work by getting Greyll stuck in a position where it's technically "in a falling state" because it can't make contact with the ground, but isn't truly falling, leading to it just hanging there T-posing for a hot second before randomly keeling over.
I had no idea it affected NPCs...
@@Squiddy0912 It's actually heavily exploited in Any% Unrestricted runs of Elden Ring, which is the main reason I even know of that failsafe to begin with. Tomatoanus has a great video on said speedrun!
@@Hexagonaldonut who
Gino fighting Radahn and Malenia back to back like "I'm here to settle the debate about which one of you is the stronger one. It's me."
The one annoying part about the spinning chain skill is that you can't get it as an Ash of War, and therefore can't put affinities on flails without changing the skill.
Yeah, I always wondered why they never put it in the game. Unsheathe goes only on katanas but you can find it in the overworld. Maybe it has to do with the fact that all non somber flails already start with it. I don't know...
Yeah, that's actually quite the nerf on flails.
It’s because they knew the almighty and powerful bleed infused flail would be far too much for any boss to handle, as the chain spins and metal strikes flesh, the bosses bleed through thy ugly skin, Thunder strikes and wars come to a halt, as a single tarnished spin the chain of his flail with utmost conviction, absolute unadulterated power, the sheer force of such a legendary weapon would force the demigods into the eternal slumber dubbed “death” so that, is why spinning chain is not a discoverable ash of war, hope that helps.
@superproduce Dude. This comment is almost as legendary as the flail. Can’t believe no one else sees how great this is.
Can you put on wild strikes? It's pretty similar in function
I hope that flails get more love in the dlc. I wish that you could put spinning strikes on a flail and helicopter it around over your head to hit everything around you
You can use wild strikes which looks more realistic on these weapons than almost anything else.
I want more axes. And I want the pose for holding an axe in two hands to make sense.
@@TheActualMrLink I wish more things had unique animations, especially for the way they’re held.
@@futuristicbus61 and like, sure cleaver-type weapons (like the Iron Cleaver used by the Misbegotten) are counted as axes, so it makes sense they’d be held in the way they are, but then why not just make cleavers their own weapon category?!
yes, i want colossal flails so badly, not these itty bitty flails
Gino casually no-hitting Malenia hours into a flail run is insane.
I'd like to thank the editor, whether Gino is the guy that edits, or if someone else does. Thank you for helping make all these long videos engaging and entertaining throughout. And I really appreciate the item description popups you use sometimes.
Those popups should stay just a bit longer, I don't know what every item does and there's not enough time to read the description...
@@JDelwynn Just pause man
@@burningknight7exactly!!!
@@Kronorium
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The baby rattler might be one of the most underrated unique weapons. That ash of war is actually nuts.
the jerma baby rattle!!
Literal cat toy
I wonder what happens if you use it on a guardian lion?@@goingbozo
Fun Fact: Familial Rancor is one of the only attacks/skills that doesn't use Stamina.
The patience that you always show when you play through the game blows my mind. I’m always either too aggressive or to cautious. I wish I had the patience and timing that you do.
gino is too incredibly good, just casually no hitting malenia with flails
I instantly remembered when Doom Wolf used the flails for his Nazgul cosplay run and stun locking all NPC enemies with the flais' spin weapon art
the flail horse R2 does so much poise damage that you can fully stunlock any humanoid enemy all the way up until the base of the elevator to altus (unpatched).
unironically carried me through the early game
E=(1/2)mv^2
The horse increases the flail ball's velocity relative to the enemy, math checks out.
@@jo54763so what you are saying is, if I am on a train and I am using a spinning flail, and hit a person in a train going the exact opposite of me going the same speed as me at 150 mph it will hurt them?
@@superproduce With two trains heading towards each other... I don't even think you'd bave to swing the flail.
@@jo54763 no like on a parallel line
@superproduce Well yeah, I'm saying if the trains zoomed past each other and you held a flail out the side, and someone stuck their head out the side... even without swinging the flail the ball would be moving at 300mph relative to the other person's head... and vice versa
The fact your editor can make a 6+ hour run this entertaining is nuts. Give that man a raise 😂
I really hope they add spinning chain as an ash of war you can find in the dlc.
I actually really feel like they nailed the "spectacle gimmick boss" design with Rykard. The boss fight is super cool, the Serpent Hunter feels awesome to use, and once you've seen it you can simply decide to never fight him again because he's competely optional. Yes, he's more annoying to fight in "unintended ways" than Yhorm, but that's because the fight is entirely designed around you using the Serpent Hunter, and when you do, it's glorious (and much cooler than Yhorm).
I'm really not fond of the token gimmick boss. Yhorm is ok because I like helping Siegward but I could never fight Ryckard or the Divine Dragon again an not miss a thing in my life
@@AaronCorr this so much, divine dragon is not as terrible since there is atleast a 0% chance of dying but rykard just bullshits u from time to time and both just waste time
I think the souls/ring series really shines in it's replayability. What makes the games so replayable is the diverse ways to play each fight. Restricting that fight to one weapon design is the antithesis of this idea, which I think makes the 1 weapon bosses a poor design gimmick. I think with a slight pivot in design choice (making other weapons more viable) the fight could have been more enjoyable instead of choosing the 1 weapon gimmick as a thematic thing necessary to the game. An enemy can have a weakness, without being strong against literally everything else in the game.
I feel like the main issue is just how easy it would have been to make it much more playable with other weapons. Like, obviously they needed to put more work into the phase 2 hitbox, but also, they could have just doubled or tripled the damage he takes from non-Serpent Hunter weapons and it would have been exactly as good a fight with the Serpent Hunter and also much better with every other weapon.
@@yaksher Yeah this exactly. Just the slightest pivot in development and it wouldn't be such a replay eyesore.
The buffs bar being bigger than the health bar scares me
I have over 500 hours total in Elden Ring, and I never knew about that +9 in the Lake of Rot. I didn't even know that platform was there at all. Always learning new things
Where you hear flails are bad are from the PvP players, due to their lack of range and slow attacks. but after patch 1.10 they are actually in a decent place due to the hit stun changes & the fact that you can't parry them is HUGE! Your free to spam your attacks on people that love to shield & parry, it's a big counter to shield play.
Also a lot of ashes of war synergies better with flails after the patch, flame strike was already crazy now you can just shred people open with it!
I think the thesis of this channel is any weapon can be OP
It's as if the player matters more :OOOO What a revelation
9:03 was such a clean transition, love it.
Smooth like butter
5:14 I actually had that happen to me by accident in my 3rd playthroughs, he flew on the top of tree, fell and died. I was dumbfounded cus no to long ago in that run. A Death Rite Bird killed it self getting to hit with the invisible killbox in Liurnia. I was like “Again!?!?”😅
A weapon class only series sounds super super fun!
Honestly I love these runs where you don't worry about no hit/no death so you can see the casual's experience (take this with a grain of salt cause I am for sure 100% a casual)
These are the only challenge runs I watch and I love 'em! That hour and a half just flew by.
I love these weapon type only runs, i hope some day we get all the different types, its awesome seeing multiple weapons and strategies in each video
I learned at the end, that nothing is more powerful than family
The checklist and items properties being displayed is genuinly such a good edit
Great video as always. I love watching these kinds of runs!
1:01:07 Watch the 2nd spin. His head comes back around so quick he pretty much teleports. Just thought that was odd.
Would love to see videos/runs like this on every weapon type/category.
Fun fact though you won't see this: you can nearly infinitely frostbite Rykard because every time it procs, the lava takes away the effect (though graphically it might still show).
Did that with a cold Giant Crusher and whatever freezing mist is called.
this video is bringing me comfort on a day where I really need it. thank you gino.
Your editing skills have improved a lot! Last time i watched one of your videos it was a few cuts and that it congrats man
An hour and a half video on flails💀 this’ll be fun
I wish games that had input buffer windows gave the player the option to change it. Like a slider from say, 60 frames to 0 (latest input occurs, no queue).
Can’t count the amount of times I threw out a backstep, roll, or extra swing because of it. Especially common with charge attacks in my Elden Ring experience.
Honestly, if they let you cancel the queued action, it would be a non-problem.
This sort of stuff simply does not happen in Devil May Cry for instance. I like the smoothness it brings, but yeah, especially in ds3 and Elden Ring, it becomes frustrating.
A tangenial idea is having a talisman that allows you to animation cancel at any time for additional stamina cost - I would like to see a Soulslike that's a bit faster paced and allows for a bit less rigid play.
Honestly you can just develop trigger discipline
@@user-jr3zr2mp9c right
@@user-jr3zr2mp9c the player shouldn't be responsible for fixing something the game does poorly. You can, I have and a lot of people did, but we slip up eventually.
@@foo3268 its not even done poorly, all souls games expect you to be precise with your rolls, especially ER with delayed attacks
i really like the editing style of this video, keep it up brah
As someone who's first run of Elden ring involved clinging to my flail for dear life I feel a lot of vindication as you play around with the flail 's spin
I've been waiting for this video for so long! ❤
Just finished the entire video. Insane run.
I just finished watching all of your ER RUclips videos. You da GoaT
You hit upon why I loved the Bastard Stars so much my 1st playthrough. It's Ash range is deceptive and I'd often use it to time an intercept of an approaching enemy and it'd often get 3 hits in from that Ash of War.
Gino: gets over upgraded before Margit
Also Gino: what it's actually goood dude?
considering that he does that for every weapon that's a pretty standardised way of comparing them
Well like the other person said, he upgrades most weapons to that point before that boss fight, so he's comparing +12 flail to other +12 weapons. Also the flails are good for the rest of the run (minus rykard).
@@abovewater6918 ah fair fair. I never really caught on that he always upgrades to +12 before Marigt.
9:01 Dude! That transition was sweet!
Great intro, great gameplay, great video!
I'd love to see more of this series and some more unique weapon types. I do hope it doesn't just become a bunch of different bleed builds though
I apreciate the time-stamps, and wish the new guy good luck!
Never catch you live but I LOVE THE RUclips VIDEOS❤❤keep it up
i just started watching you a week ago and your already my favorite creator
I think it hits twice when the first part of the explosion hits are more spread out from the second hits. (far right portion of the trail hits first then the far left explodes and hits second)
E: Wild strikes with bleed works similar to spinning chain. And here is the time stamp showing what I’m explaining above and it hits twice. 1:16:03
got home from work to eat and see this!!! 10 hour shift into new gino vid i love you
The first time I beat malenia was with bastard's stars and night cavalry's flail in a jump attack build, I love these guys so much ❤❤❤
that was a sick run.
YES FINALLY!
I would have liked to have seen a run before they got buffed, but hey it's still a great watch!
This is the best run I've ever seen i wich i could make elden ring videos i just don't know how to upload them when its on a playstation also keep up the good work
the bastards star has those white stars in the nebula explode and depending on how many stars are exploding at the targets hitbox thats how many hits you get
Nightrider Flail is one of the best weapons you can get early. Love the thing.
34:03 when you said "i got my own spin " i just cant bro that was so funny for no reason. 😂
Nights cavalry flail with occult scale goes incredibly well wit harcane.
make a video on how to setup runs please :) i've started myself doing runs with specific builds, but i always miss some stuff here and there in properly setting it up
I've always thought that flails got a bad rep. There's very few of them and players and creators never took the time to really invest in becoming an expert with them. They, like scythes, are an underwhelming weapon simply due to choices however I've always felt they could be very viable and versatile as a weapon,
your editor's getting better and better
I used the flail throughout the majority of my first playthrough. They're good. Strike damage, bleed proc, decent poise damage, and just kinda rad looking.
A quick tip for nebula ash of war it does hits multiple hits that are random in place and sequence inside the trail it places so its somehow more consistent if you dont lock on the boss and cast it a bit to the left
I used flails my first playthrough and loved them, especially their guard counters were quick and did hella stagger. I'd swap between them and the Cross Naginata (which I mainly used as a long range weapon anyway with Spectral Lance and Icicle Spear.)
My favorite quickly became the one you get from Astel's Rememberance.
Used nightrider for a good chunk of my first playthru, eventually replaced with flamberge. They've always been really good, the art is just bad, replaced with wild strikes first run and that shreds. Notably, before the guard counter buffs they had some of the highest guard counter poise damage in the whole game, and probably still do, while also being very very fast on counter. Good combo with greatshield
Pls stay like u are forever, u're such a wonderful and considerate human being
Cant believe Gino did the "almost beat em first try, then hard stuck for like 2 hours" on Rykard
Man, who knew spinning your flail around could probably be considered a cheese method unto itself?
Used Family Heads as a joke at first cause my friends thought it was such a funny weapon (buncha moaning heads on a stick), but I eventually used it for almost half my NG playthrough cause it ended up being such a good weapon. Happy to see it (and flails in general) getting more love.
Family Heads is my FAVORITE weapon in the whole game. Good damage type with an AoW that lets you have a ranged option. I run it on a "Skeleton Dad" build with the twinbird kiteshield, the red/blue branchswords, and the Royal Remains armor set. Just dump runes into HP while you upgrade the weapon, the AoW scales well with weapon level up until you actually need the damage for endgame (around morgott point, at which point I start putting points into damage).
i saw this and instantly thought, "YES ONE HOUR AND TWENTY FOUR MINUTES OF PURE ENTERTAINMENT, THANK GOODNESS
My second character in Elden Ring was a magicless playthrough. I went DEX and had my main be the Great Epee (busted AF) and, sometimes the Guardian Treespear. BUT, really early on, I thought I'd need a striking weapon for stuff like Crystallians, Imps, skellis.... and so I picked up the Nightrider Flail on the way.
DANG, that weapon is so stronk. Only issue I had was smithing stone pressure but that was excellent stuff. I used stormcaller a bit to build some bleed, did work really well against some bosses and, later on, I DID default mostly to Lion's Claw for splatting enemies with big bonks. It doesn't have the range of some other stuff but the damage and bleed are super solid. Even without going into the unique flails, these things are so good. Definitely underrated weapon class
The transition at 9:03 to 9:06 is beautiful
That Flashback part got me rolling on the floor! 😂
This got uploaded right as I'm getting ready to eat. W
i crashed radagon and elden beast also with dual flails, in my case they were the black knight and the regular flail with a quality build at level 120, flails are the blunt damage type weapon for dex builds and also, if they didn't change it, is a weapon inmune to parries
I just seen you recently and I'm i the last fight of beating elden ring but you are like so good 👍
Rykard is great on a first playthrough with the Serpent Hunter, the spectacle of it. But when challenge running with different builds (especially melee, and not overlevelled) it is an absolute nightmare
1:12:56
Also keep in mind that Yhorm has a way to fight him without the storm ruler. His arms are weak and hitting them will stagger him easily. Rykard has no mechanic like this
Goats back let’s goo
My first Elden Ring playthrough I used the flail found in the first Limgrave camp for over half the game, friends didn't believe I actually used it so I beat their asses in PVP and converted them to flail users.
I saw another weapon challenge run, he didn't seem to struggle as much with rykhard.
But he also went heavy armor, liferegen shield, talisman, lifesteal talismans with more. Pretty sure you'd struggle less if you planned for him 🙂
On my arcane build when I would power stance katanas, or power stance the ripple crescent halberd, I noticed that the power stance jump attack (with the talisman and the black feathers) would seem to do more actual damage, but less stance damage, than a jump R2 even though it was hitting with both weapons
Thank you for this
I feel the Wild Strikes and the flail spin are some of the best ashes of war they are alot of fun and are pretty good too
7:15 - I like the cracks appearing on him as his HP gets lower.
Nice work buddy
After some testing, Great Stars and Butchering Knife both trivialize Rykards fight. The 1% heal per hit heals faster than Rykards lava can hurt (at high vigor), and works with ashes of war to great effect.
Certain projectiles types also trivialize him.
Especially bloodflies, since his Bleed resist isn't high, and he sits still most of the time.
Now that I think about it, healing using only weapons and ashes of war is a very viable build. Great Stars, Prayerful Strike, Lifesteal Fist, Holy Ground. Omega Heals.
@@PoyoDesuka Yes there's definitely builds that trivialize him. But if you have to use specific weapons (whips) or certain builds only, and you are not over powered or over levelled, it is a very annoying fight
I'VE BEEN WAITINH FOR THIS FORVERR LEYS FUCKINWG GOOOO
flails have insane jump attack poise damage as well
The only thing you're swinging around heavier than those flails are your gigantic balls. Bravo sir.
After watching this video I went for a flail build. Avoided previously as people said I they were rubbish. Double wielded normal flail and knight rider flail. Was absolutely awesome. Possibly my most favourite play through. Hugely underrated weapon. Spinning chain, although not always great, in some circumstances can be really effective due to bleed and number of hits. Particularly against large, slow enemies and bosses you can stun.
You can do the Rykard fight close-quarters (especially useful for dealing with his Rancor spell in phase 2) with the stamina regen and hp regen tears in the physick, bestial vitality, flamedrake and turtle talismans, and the incant version of golden vow. You could add the Turtle shield for even more stamina regen, if you can also wear the royal remains set with it, carry serpent hunter, and not fat roll. Kill Greyoll and the Caelid Night's Cavalry for runes, and make sure you have enough points in Faith to use Golden Vow, because you won't be able to get the points from your talismans or physick, kill Margit for the talisman pouch, grab the talismans, let Rya take you to Volcano Manor, pick up serpent hunter, and upgrade it if you have any trouble with him. You also need a seal, which you can pick up while in Volcano Manor if you didn't start with one. I've done this for an early Rykard kill to get the blasphemous blade, which, if you were smart about how you portioned out your runes, you'll have the stats to use right away. You can then upgrade it all the way to +9 just from doing some running around picking up sombers, then +10 after killing Godrick and doing Varre's quest to go to Mohgwyn palace for the last upgrade. You can basically cruise through the game on easy mode after that.
i would love to seee you do bow only run next
I'm still waiting for torch only....
In all seriousness these runs are hype
my guess about nebula 3rd hit jank is that its based off of a cooldown from the first cloud hit rather than a finite number of separate hitboxes.