For those comments - he's not saying they're errors, just that they're something you can notice to 'ruin your day'. Since clicking 'show more' is too difficult. BTD-1 : tail is accurately modeled to the real plane (like the rest) Tiger 2 : designed that way (this includes tiger 1, panther, and several others, there are also tanks with the entire turret off center, like the panzer 4). (a random hole isn't random if it's intentional :P ) Mi-24 has a real 2.5 degree tilt and it's fuggly Hebrew is written backwards to English (right to left), so it's a direct translation without rearrangement... that's my theory anyway lol H-111 cockpit - like all asymmetrical bombers, is where the bomber sits / lays down, the design benefit is that the guy can either be in a chair that tips forward, or actually lays down with his head up in that point.
people who think Mi-24 asymmetry is ugly clearly show how they don't care the science behind it. function over form, it what makes designs unique between engineers & design bureau.
i guess to make it slightly clear; in aircraft there is torque. basically, if these designs were symmetrical they wouldn't be able to fly straight without u continuously pushing the rudder to one side, and this is a nightmare on takeoff & landing while being super inconvenient during flight. this applies to conventional-layout helicopters, while torque is already taken care off by adding tail rotor. there's still *dissymmetry of lift* because of how rotors work, which are basically spinning plane wings. to put it simply; the main rotor spins to one direction, the advancing side (same direction with the helicopter) generates more lift, and the retreating side (against the direction of the helicopter) generates less lift. there are speed limit for helicopters not (only) because they have small engines, its because if they go any faster one side would generate so much lift the helicopter would just do an uncontrollable barrel roll. for several helicopters, this wont be too noticeable, but Mi-24 has a strong translating tendency (because of both main rotor torque & tail rotor force pushing it to the side) on hover which makes it continuously drifts sideways so the engineers had to tilt the rotor 2.5 degrees to the side to balance it out, and because of this the helicopter fuselage could remain flat during landing & hover. this may sound like an inconvenience, but this design also allows Mi-24 to accelerate even further while remaining flat, this is why Mi-24 flies faster than Black Hawk despite having a similar overall size. i guess i could also mention about the A-10 (a modified Mi-24B Hind, not Warthog), which is a lighter variant of regular Hind B with no stub wings, which are piloted by an all-female crew & broke the speed record. (until the other Hind being the uncanny single-seated Mi-24LL PSV beat the record recently) basically, the Hind & G-lynx (faster) are the only two fastest conventional helicopters in this world. all conventional helicopters suffer from all of the issues above, even the seemingly symmetrical helicopters like Apache or European Tigers have it too, most helicopters solved this by adding bias in cyclic control & some tilt on the tail rotor, however, this won't stop the whole helicopter from being tilted a few degrees anyway, Mi-24 just have a stronger issue, so the designer had to fix it.
The smiley face on the the back of phantom is real. Here in Greece we still fly these planes and I saw one in a static display. It had the face on it!! I think it has something to do with the parachute system used in landings.
The Panzer IV's turret offset (about 65mm) left corresponds with the engine offset of 152mm to the right. By doing this, the driveshaft and turret electrical supply can sit level, avoiding the need to increase the height the turret sits if the power supply had to sit overtop of the driveshaft.
@@hakkennr8768 If the drive sprocket wheels are at the back then they don’t need it, only if they are driven from the front which means the driveshaft has to run through the centre of the tank
2:54 I know that was probably a joke but the main real reason why the HE111’s cockpit was offset was I believe so the pilot could see past the gunner/bombardier
0:39 That is intentional. The propellor creates torque. While helicopters use a tail rotor to oppose torque, conventional aircraft have things like trim and structural changes such as the off centring/angling of the horizontal stabilizer or the gear.
It was probably a mistake to mix both actual historical details and visual glitches, you just know some moron is gonna watch this video and think every point is a glitch caused by Gaijin’s incompetence and not them accurately modelling obscure details of vehicles
Well, it's not really to counter the torque of the engine, that's typically done with trim tabs etc. The primary reason to have an offset tailfin is to counter the slipstream that the propeller generates. The propeller pushes air in a circular motion around the fuselage of the plane, when that air finally reaches the aft section of the aircraft it hits the tailfin and creates a yawing effect on the plane. To counter that yawing motion, we can offset the tailfin that the propeller slipstream hits.
@@thepulle4722 “moron” because they didnt know. I went into the comment section to see if that makes sense. Awfully stupid to call someone a moron because they didnt know a lesser known fact about airplanes…. Honestly thats a redditor moment
@@niksonrex88 I was being rhetorical, I know in the WT community as a whole there’s a lot of people who want to show how bad Gaijin is at game development and I was concerned someone out there (ironically the know it all Redditor type) would incorrectly use this video as an example of ‘Gaijin’s incompetence’ when actually for many of the points it shows a good attention to detail
The off center tail on the BTD-1 (and all the other rapid fire planes at the end) is actually for a very specific reason. The air from the propellers channels around the fuselage in a spiral pattern and adds torque on the tail section, the off center section makes it so that the pilot doesn’t have to apply constant rudder input to maintain a straight and level flight path. Or something like that, idk, I’m not an aeronautical engineer. Edit: it’s also probably the same for the MC-202, except the engineers probably had an issue with torque rolling the aircraft, so they made one wing longer to give that side more lift to keep it level.
1:51 they actually had non symetrical wings in real life. reason was the longer wing would counteract the rotational force of the propeller with its larger lift. this meant pilots in flight had to trim much less for this compared to pilots from other nations
It's to reduce the effects of the spiraling slipstream. Offsetting the stabilizer helps it align with the slip stream (but not completely) as it tends to hit the rudder, moving it to the right which then moves the nose left.
Quite a few aircraft have an offset tail for this reason, and it amazes me that people cant think about it logically. Im by no means an engineer or flyboy, and i still thats a pretty simple thing to figure out.
@@cyanide7270 Even the angle of incidence is different for either wings to combat turning tendencies on some aircraft. Lots of cool little things engineered into the airplane if you look into it.
The turret assymetry of the m1 abrams is not just a visual feature. If someone inspects the protection of the cheeks with the protection analysis, one can see that the left cheek has noticably better protection, than the right (where the gunner sight is), despite the fact that in the x-ray view, both has the same composite armour type and thickness. For the Mi-24, the assymetry was a purposeful design choice. It is even mentioned in one of the shooting range episode. The point of the assymmetry is to offset the centre of mass such that the induced torque counteracts the natural roll tilting torque of the rotors at cruise speed.
Once you understand it's intentional, it doesn't bother you. Want to know what WILL bother people about the Hind? Why the Russians call it a 'Crocodile'. Hint: The dust protection domes on the intakes are the eyes....
2:26 I believe the reason for the name being behind the aircraft type is that in Russian, "Weizman's Spitfire" would be said as "Spitfire of Weizman". If you pop open google translate, type in "Weizman's Spitfire", translate it to Russian and back to English again, you get a similar result of "Spitfire Weizman" or something.
Or it may be because in hebrew it would be הספיטפייר של ויצמן, this means directly translated, "the spitfire of weizman". Although, keep in mind, this is just an assumption, not based on any solid information ^^
Most of the offset designs you see in early aircraft are to counter the rotation caused by the radial engines gyroscopic force turning the plane to the side
The M4A1/Sherman II has it's driver side direct vision block open but it's bow gunner side one closed, why the driver would keep his vision port open during a battle is very odd
Most tanks would ran around with their hatches and vision ports open even in battle so that they can see what the fuck they're doing, the chances of getting hit through those small openings were very small and if they did it wouldn't make a difference since most tanks were disable by a single shot, which most of the times the crew who was inside never knew where it came from, or that they were even under attack.
@@thetankthatnoonereallytalk5933 Unless u're fired from a top position, like from a top of a building in city, or a water tower, you keep the top open regardless, you only close it when u're being attack from above. You also need to consider that tanks SHOULD NEVER be inside cities without infantry escort, actually, they shouldn't fight inside cities at all.
The Mi24 Hind purposely tilted. The main rotor of was tilted to the right from the fuselage to compensate for translating tendency at a hover. The landing gear was also tilted to the left so that the rotor would still be level when the aircraft was on the ground, making the rest of the airframe tilt to the left.
The off center rudder at 0:38 is intentional due to the torque caused by the propellor.. In reality, when you fly a single engine prop, you have to give it right rudder constantly. I have flown 172 cessnas as i am a private pilot, and it is indeed a right leg workout. The more power you give the engine, the more right rudder you have to input. also when you pitch up or down, gryoscopic precession wants to shift the plane in a yawing direction. pitching down causes it to yaw left, and pitching up wants it to yaw right. This is why an aircraft like the P38 was so much less of a hassle to fly since the counter rotating props negated the need for the right leg workout. It can be very tiring in reality..
"the corsairs got a random rectangular hole in it's right wing for climbing into the cockpit" wait for it. waaaaaait..... waaaait for iit. YOU GOT A HOLE IN YOUR RIGHT WING!
The HE 111's greenhouse is offset so the pilot can be on the left side and the gunner on the right, which allows the pilot a better view downwards than he would get if he flew from behind or straddling the gunner
One infuriating detail I've noticed is that the B-25J-1 has misaligned Waist gunner sections and it absolutely pisses me off because I am very OCD about being symmetrical.
I know that the MC202 was designed with the two different lengths on the wings to try and counteract the auto-roll from single engine prop torque instead of trimming the aircraft constantly. Didn't really work that well though.
I remember a comment made by a tank driver, (forget which tank model) the tank can angle itself 180 degrees in front of a tree but struggles to go up a small hill in warthunder
the vertical stab on the btd and others is actually a design feature. the torque of the engine forces the plane to the left or right and the vert stab counters this
When I first got the phantom one of the first things I noticed was the smiling tail, gave me a good chuckle when I decided to point this out to my team, half of them just discovering it on their planes.
The off center wing was actually a real design choice. it was to help fight torque from the engine. Although I don’t know if gaijin went that much into detail.
Hey I knew that about the Abrams turret :D I have a few models of the Abrams and noticed that at a young age. I always assumed it was to keep the same thickness of the armor but still be able to fit in the functionality for the gunner and commander's widgets.
Yea I built an M1A2 model a number of years ago and noticed that, from what I gather from reading various (no clue how reliable) sources, it is like that because of the gunner sitting ahead of the commander on the right of the gun, and having all their sights control equipment, but on the left of the gun is just the loader station.
0:00 jokes on you, I already knew that. The turret isn’t even centered. Huh, actually I knew about most this stuff, even the cute little smile on the Phantom, also on the British phantom there is only 1 dot and on one of the Japanese phantoms there are 2 dots with one that is removed.
I knew about the C.202's wings already, it was something they used in the C.200 as well and I wanna say they carried it on to the C.205. It was intended to offset engine torque but apparently gave the plane some poor stall characteristics.
I believe I read pilot reports that because of this the plane turned better one way and worse the other. I think I heard from an Italian pilot who flew em
@@King63Kobra That's not unheard of, the Fokker DR1 was designed where it turned way better in one direction that the other, that was all well and good until the allied pilots figured that out and started turning the other way.
@@ptsdpamphletcompany5890 Yeah I think that's exactly what happened. Brits learned that it was way easier to turn against them on way so they would drag them into fights like that to gain the upper hand
3:58 The reason for this is, when a player goes to type something into the chat, but changes their mind and doesn't type anything, that black box pops up with no text in it.
The loading screen with the T-2 japanese fighter shows a bomb loadout with 7 bombs( 3 under each wing and one under the fuselage). This layout doesnt exist in game as the T-2 can only carry 5 bombs.
0:37 I think the tail might be off-centered to counter prop torque, like how some modern single-prop planes have offset propellers. I'm not fully sure, but I think thats what that is.
Yeah the macchis are built with asymmetrical wings as an attempt to compensate for the engine torque, also I'm sure that all the off-center rudders are meant for such purpose
eh... the rudder thing isn't exactly countering the torque of the engine/propeller. but is countering other funky stuff from the propeller which causes a left yaw
00:40 this was done irl to counteract the torque from the engine as well as the asymmetrical thrust that happens with powerful prop planes due to one side of the prop having a higher angle of attack then the other.
The off centre tail is real thing to prevent the plane from turning because of the way the spins modern propeller aircraft also have engines slightly aimed right to fix this problem
i think the tbds tail is supposed to be offset to make up for the propellers slip stream so it doesn't turn to the left. also the hole on the f4u is a footstep
There are 3 physical reasons tails may be offset. 1st is the gyroscopic procession due to the spinning engine/propeller. 2nd is the extra thrust from the upward spinning blade while the aircrafts angle of attack is pitched upward. 3rd is the direction the air flows around the fuselage and strikes the tail
from my understanding, the reason some aircraft have off-center/askew vertical tails is to counteract the torque created by the engine. every example of the off-center tails has been on a propeller driven aircraft, where jet's obviously don't need to worry about that sense there's no torque created from the engines.
1:50 the different wing lenghts is something pretty common, it's one of the tricks designers do to counter the roll caused by the propeller's rotation in single engine aircraft, I'd risk saying the BTD's offset tail has the same purpouse.
You forgot that one of the Me410's can carry 2x500kb bombs that clip into each other and through tge bomb bay. And dont look and or count the object 120 ammo.
asymetrical tails on props was by design IRL. Also, wow, the Mig-21MF air brake doesnt work with the countermeasure pod. you get an error saying equipment is in the way or something like that
I think the rudder is off-center because the propeller pushes air around the plane causing it to push the rudder to the side if it isn't off center. Some plane might have a tilted propeller too in this game if it has a straight rudder.
I think the reason they did the un-aligned B point for Sweden, was for balance. Since if you can hold cap from all 4 corners, you can easily put the heavy tanks for all 4 corners and make it really hard for the other team
lmfao I was laughing with you when you mentioned the Abrams turret. Never gets old telling some Abramsismyfavoritetank freeaboo that the turret is asymmetrical and they go "WHAAT!?"
It's pretty obvious that the turret is asymmetrical and the reason is pretty obvious when you go into x-ray view. Not sure why you get a kick out of people not knowing this. To each his own I suppose.
@@StudleyDuderightStill, a surprising amount of people that play War Thunder that like the Abrams don't know that the turret is asymmetrical. Unless you're telling me all those people that got told this were acting.
Actually they are different. The Ram Air Turbine drops out on the aircraft bottom right side to power flight controls in an engine failure, and the air refueling probe comes out of the upper left, so the bottom right and top left missiles are each located to accommodate those items.
3:57 I'm pretty sure this has to do with chat bans, when someone that's chat banned tries to speak, it auto opens the text box like someone is speaking but nothing appears since they were chat banned
fun fact, you can see a little flap right below the rudder of the F2G-1 moving to the right if you set takeoff/landing flap and it's used to correct the yaw made from the rectangle hole on the flaps since the side with the hole have less drag
The I-16 too has an ofset tail. And when you make airplane skins, you find out that there's its own set of misalignments in mapping and other weird warped stuff.
Also levitating tank tracks keep appearing behind your tank as you keep switching between third person and gun all sights in ground battles. This started to happen after the recent update.
1:30 I’ve seen comments about everything else but not about Mi… why? I personally don’t know if it’s a bug or a feature, but he just looks sleepy to me. He needs some oil mixed with coffee to fully wake him up.
Rudder being slightly off to one side is to help counteract a high speed airstream that corkscrews around the fuselage from the props, and literally pushes on the left side of the rudder. Also the plane with the right wing being 8 inches longer is to counteract the engines rotational torque
For those comments - he's not saying they're errors, just that they're something you can notice to 'ruin your day'. Since clicking 'show more' is too difficult.
BTD-1 : tail is accurately modeled to the real plane (like the rest)
Tiger 2 : designed that way (this includes tiger 1, panther, and several others, there are also tanks with the entire turret off center, like the panzer 4).
(a random hole isn't random if it's intentional :P )
Mi-24 has a real 2.5 degree tilt and it's fuggly
Hebrew is written backwards to English (right to left), so it's a direct translation without rearrangement... that's my theory anyway lol
H-111 cockpit - like all asymmetrical bombers, is where the bomber sits / lays down, the design benefit is that the guy can either be in a chair that tips forward, or actually lays down with his head up in that point.
somehow this got pinned when the vid is a year old
people who think Mi-24 asymmetry is ugly clearly show how they don't care the science behind it.
function over form, it what makes designs unique between engineers & design bureau.
i guess to make it slightly clear; in aircraft there is torque.
basically, if these designs were symmetrical they wouldn't be able to fly straight without u continuously pushing the rudder to one side, and this is a nightmare on takeoff & landing while being super inconvenient during flight.
this applies to conventional-layout helicopters, while torque is already taken care off by adding tail rotor.
there's still *dissymmetry of lift* because of how rotors work, which are basically spinning plane wings.
to put it simply;
the main rotor spins to one direction, the advancing side (same direction with the helicopter) generates more lift, and the retreating side (against the direction of the helicopter) generates less lift.
there are speed limit for helicopters not (only) because they have small engines, its because if they go any faster one side would generate so much lift the helicopter would just do an uncontrollable barrel roll.
for several helicopters, this wont be too noticeable, but Mi-24 has a strong translating tendency (because of both main rotor torque & tail rotor force pushing it to the side) on hover which makes it continuously drifts sideways so the engineers had to tilt the rotor 2.5 degrees to the side to balance it out, and because of this the helicopter fuselage could remain flat during landing & hover.
this may sound like an inconvenience, but this design also allows Mi-24 to accelerate even further while remaining flat, this is why Mi-24 flies faster than Black Hawk despite having a similar overall size.
i guess i could also mention about the A-10 (a modified Mi-24B Hind, not Warthog), which is a lighter variant of regular Hind B with no stub wings, which are piloted by an all-female crew & broke the speed record. (until the other Hind being the uncanny single-seated Mi-24LL PSV beat the record recently)
basically, the Hind & G-lynx (faster) are the only two fastest conventional helicopters in this world.
all conventional helicopters suffer from all of the issues above, even the seemingly symmetrical helicopters like Apache or European Tigers have it too, most helicopters solved this by adding bias in cyclic control & some tilt on the tail rotor, however, this won't stop the whole helicopter from being tilted a few degrees anyway, Mi-24 just have a stronger issue, so the designer had to fix it.
I believe for the he-111 the asymmetrical cockpit is for some kind of stability benefit
@@black_thunder2159 That logic is so flawed it's funny
The smiley face on the the back of phantom is real. Here in Greece we still fly these planes and I saw one in a static display. It had the face on it!! I think it has something to do with the parachute system used in landings.
Let's be real...no one cares why it's there but everyone is happier knowing the plane is happy.
: )
@@abandonedaccount123 :D
*It’s part of the laser guidance warning system* , so this is the thing what’s causing ur radar beeping, while u r being tracked by an AA missile
I've heard its part if RWR
The Panzer IV's turret offset (about 65mm) left corresponds with the engine offset of 152mm to the right. By doing this, the driveshaft and turret electrical supply can sit level, avoiding the need to increase the height the turret sits if the power supply had to sit overtop of the driveshaft.
Oh don't worry, its not just the Panzer IV's
Its nearly on every German Tanks
@@twddersharkmarine7774 thats actually pretty genius tho by the germans
German engineering
almost all tanks have it like that -_-
@@hakkennr8768 If the drive sprocket wheels are at the back then they don’t need it, only if they are driven from the front which means the driveshaft has to run through the centre of the tank
2:54 I know that was probably a joke but the main real reason why the HE111’s cockpit was offset was I believe so the pilot could see past the gunner/bombardier
True
0:39 That is intentional. The propellor creates torque. While helicopters use a tail rotor to oppose torque, conventional aircraft have things like trim and structural changes such as the off centring/angling of the horizontal stabilizer or the gear.
It was probably a mistake to mix both actual historical details and visual glitches, you just know some moron is gonna watch this video and think every point is a glitch caused by Gaijin’s incompetence and not them accurately modelling obscure details of vehicles
Well, it's not really to counter the torque of the engine, that's typically done with trim tabs etc.
The primary reason to have an offset tailfin is to counter the slipstream that the propeller generates.
The propeller pushes air in a circular motion around the fuselage of the plane, when that air finally reaches the aft section of the aircraft it hits the tailfin and creates a yawing effect on the plane.
To counter that yawing motion, we can offset the tailfin that the propeller slipstream hits.
@@thepulle4722 “moron” because they didnt know. I went into the comment section to see if that makes sense. Awfully stupid to call someone a moron because they didnt know a lesser known fact about airplanes….
Honestly thats a redditor moment
@@robins4209 yes that is a more correct description of intended purpose, my point is that this is intentional.
@@niksonrex88 I was being rhetorical, I know in the WT community as a whole there’s a lot of people who want to show how bad Gaijin is at game development and I was concerned someone out there (ironically the know it all Redditor type) would incorrectly use this video as an example of ‘Gaijin’s incompetence’ when actually for many of the points it shows a good attention to detail
The off center tail on the BTD-1 (and all the other rapid fire planes at the end) is actually for a very specific reason. The air from the propellers channels around the fuselage in a spiral pattern and adds torque on the tail section, the off center section makes it so that the pilot doesn’t have to apply constant rudder input to maintain a straight and level flight path. Or something like that, idk, I’m not an aeronautical engineer.
Edit: it’s also probably the same for the MC-202, except the engineers probably had an issue with torque rolling the aircraft, so they made one wing longer to give that side more lift to keep it level.
I am mildly inconvenienced by this unfortunate knowledge
Have fun playing airplanes now, unable to focus because of the rudder
Nah, gaining this knowledge was super easy, barely an inconvenience.
bwah
Just remember moti said "f*** me (father used in a different manner)" and you'll forget everything
BALD
1:51 they actually had non symetrical wings in real life. reason was the longer wing would counteract the rotational force of the propeller with its larger lift. this meant pilots in flight had to trim much less for this compared to pilots from other nations
He knows. The whole idea of the video is just to mess with people who like symmetrical things.
Forbidden cotton candy
I was going to comment this when the BMD was brought up.
It's to reduce the effects of the spiraling slipstream. Offsetting the stabilizer helps it align with the slip stream (but not completely) as it tends to hit the rudder, moving it to the right which then moves the nose left.
Yeah, I noticed it on the p51 as well and started to remember that the props have like 4 different slipstreams with the blades and wind itself
Quite a few aircraft have an offset tail for this reason, and it amazes me that people cant think about it logically. Im by no means an engineer or flyboy, and i still thats a pretty simple thing to figure out.
@@cyanide7270 Even the angle of incidence is different for either wings to combat turning tendencies on some aircraft. Lots of cool little things engineered into the airplane if you look into it.
The turret assymetry of the m1 abrams is not just a visual feature. If someone inspects the protection of the cheeks with the protection analysis, one can see that the left cheek has noticably better protection, than the right (where the gunner sight is), despite the fact that in the x-ray view, both has the same composite armour type and thickness.
For the Mi-24, the assymetry was a purposeful design choice. It is even mentioned in one of the shooting range episode. The point of the assymmetry is to offset the centre of mass such that the induced torque counteracts the natural roll tilting torque of the rotors at cruise speed.
Once you understand it's intentional, it doesn't bother you. Want to know what WILL bother people about the Hind? Why the Russians call it a 'Crocodile'.
Hint: The dust protection domes on the intakes are the eyes....
2:26 I believe the reason for the name being behind the aircraft type is that in Russian, "Weizman's Spitfire" would be said as "Spitfire of Weizman". If you pop open google translate, type in "Weizman's Spitfire", translate it to Russian and back to English again, you get a similar result of "Spitfire Weizman" or something.
Ahh Google Translate moment
Or it may be because in hebrew it would be הספיטפייר של ויצמן, this means directly translated, "the spitfire of weizman". Although, keep in mind, this is just an assumption, not based on any solid information ^^
One of the Japanese premiums suffers from this too.
@@BleedingUranium ki61 hei Tada's?
But then why are the others different xD It’s fine if they want to do it that way cause of…reasons…but at least make it consistent!
Most of the offset designs you see in early aircraft are to counter the rotation caused by the radial engines gyroscopic force turning the plane to the side
The M4A1/Sherman II has it's driver side direct vision block open but it's bow gunner side one closed, why the driver would keep his vision port open during a battle is very odd
Maybe he was just bored
Most tanks would ran around with their hatches and vision ports open even in battle so that they can see what the fuck they're doing, the chances of getting hit through those small openings were very small and if they did it wouldn't make a difference since most tanks were disable by a single shot, which most of the times the crew who was inside never knew where it came from, or that they were even under attack.
@@brunoraoni what about machine guns
@@thetankthatnoonereallytalk5933 Unless u're fired from a top position, like from a top of a building in city, or a water tower, you keep the top open regardless, you only close it when u're being attack from above. You also need to consider that tanks SHOULD NEVER be inside cities without infantry escort, actually, they shouldn't fight inside cities at all.
The Mi24 Hind purposely tilted. The main rotor of was tilted to the right from the fuselage to compensate for translating tendency at a hover. The landing gear was also tilted to the left so that the rotor would still be level when the aircraft was on the ground, making the rest of the airframe tilt to the left.
In short words: The whole helicopter is lopsided!
Explanation to 3:58
Someone want to type something but ultimately failed and cancel their type by removing all the characters and pressing "enter"
And now you'll see this box eternally because everyone is going to do this
Thank you. I was wondering why that happened
@@williewilson2250 I'm not regretting it
cuz I have uninstalled the game XD
I always thought that that was a way to make sure you are aware of what your teammates are saying on the chat. Like it was a game desing
Thanks I had been seeing this for a while
The off center rudder at 0:38 is intentional due to the torque caused by the propellor.. In reality, when you fly a single engine prop, you have to give it right rudder constantly. I have flown 172 cessnas as i am a private pilot, and it is indeed a right leg workout. The more power you give the engine, the more right rudder you have to input. also when you pitch up or down, gryoscopic precession wants to shift the plane in a yawing direction. pitching down causes it to yaw left, and pitching up wants it to yaw right. This is why an aircraft like the P38 was so much less of a hassle to fly since the counter rotating props negated the need for the right leg workout. It can be very tiring in reality..
"the corsairs got a random rectangular hole in it's right wing for climbing into the cockpit"
wait for it.
waaaaaait.....
waaaait for iit.
YOU GOT A HOLE IN YOUR RIGHT WING!
You got a wing in your left hole!
So all this time the narrator tried to tell us about it and we did not listen?
@@jarskil8862 The narrator never lies. We simply deny his truth
i reproduced the same fkin audio in my mind
YOU GOT A WING IN YOUR RIGHT HOLE
Man this just, bad, really bad to read and to think lol
3:35 T-34s turret is also off-centre. They fixed that issue in T-44, but it made whole tank into piece of garbage in terms of reliability.
The HE 111's greenhouse is offset so the pilot can be on the left side and the gunner on the right, which allows the pilot a better view downwards than he would get if he flew from behind or straddling the gunner
Crazy, almost like the Germans didn't know they could just press C and go 3rd person.
@@wolfhunter98 bruh
you mean cockpit right?
@@danwild6 yeah
@@danwild6 Cockpits like these, made almost entirely of glass panels are sometimes called "greenhouse cockpits"
One infuriating detail I've noticed is that the B-25J-1 has misaligned Waist gunner sections and it absolutely pisses me off because I am very OCD about being symmetrical.
So does the b-17g I think, it's one of them
I know that the MC202 was designed with the two different lengths on the wings to try and counteract the auto-roll from single engine prop torque instead of trimming the aircraft constantly. Didn't really work that well though.
I remember a comment made by a tank driver, (forget which tank model) the tank can angle itself 180 degrees in front of a tree but struggles to go up a small hill in warthunder
the vertical stab on the btd and others is actually a design feature. the torque of the engine forces the plane to the left or right and the vert stab counters this
Same for all planes
Pretty much all the vehicle quirks he mentioned are actual design features
They are all design features to accomodate for crew, in-turret requirements or mechanical reasons, but it is still infuriating :P
Exactly why some propeller engines are slightly offset themselves.
the offset rudders are actually making my day once you know why its done
When I first got the phantom one of the first things I noticed was the smiling tail, gave me a good chuckle when I decided to point this out to my team, half of them just discovering it on their planes.
A similar smiling face can also be seen on some french bombers, I believe. For example on the M.B.175T
the smiling face is actually the device that detects incoming missiles.
The off center wing was actually a real design choice. it was to help fight torque from the engine. Although I don’t know if gaijin went that much into detail.
The HE-111 had an offset cockpit to allow better visibility by moving the gunner out of the way.
The rectangular hole in the Corsair’s wing was there to be used as a step for the pilot to get in and out
Hey I knew that about the Abrams turret :D I have a few models of the Abrams and noticed that at a young age. I always assumed it was to keep the same thickness of the armor but still be able to fit in the functionality for the gunner and commander's widgets.
Yea I built an M1A2 model a number of years ago and noticed that, from what I gather from reading various (no clue how reliable) sources, it is like that because of the gunner sitting ahead of the commander on the right of the gun, and having all their sights control equipment, but on the left of the gun is just the loader station.
same i notice mine on my toy when i was 8 years old
Could be
@@Drakey_Fenix YOU AGAIN!
*Spiderman point meme*
In reality it just makes the loader's side stronger than the gunner and commander's
0:00 jokes on you, I already knew that. The turret isn’t even centered. Huh, actually I knew about most this stuff, even the cute little smile on the Phantom, also on the British phantom there is only 1 dot and on one of the Japanese phantoms there are 2 dots with one that is removed.
I knew about the C.202's wings already, it was something they used in the C.200 as well and I wanna say they carried it on to the C.205. It was intended to offset engine torque but apparently gave the plane some poor stall characteristics.
I believe I read pilot reports that because of this the plane turned better one way and worse the other. I think I heard from an Italian pilot who flew em
@@King63Kobra imagine that in game
@@King63Kobra That's not unheard of, the Fokker DR1 was designed where it turned way better in one direction that the other, that was all well and good until the allied pilots figured that out and started turning the other way.
@@ptsdpamphletcompany5890 Yeah I think that's exactly what happened. Brits learned that it was way easier to turn against them on way so they would drag them into fights like that to gain the upper hand
@@jorislangenkamp2833 some stuff isn't there, engine torque is completely absent from mouse aim
The nose of the M.B 157 is off-center to counter the torque of the Gnome-Rhone engine iirc
3:58 The reason for this is, when a player goes to type something into the chat, but changes their mind and doesn't type anything, that black box pops up with no text in it.
3:52
Oh you wait until you see a gearless Ju-87
This video is actually quite comforting if you know some of the reasons these design choices were made.
Function has a form of beauty of its own
And yet some people will think it's Gaijins fault for poor modelling lmao
Can u explain that pls. I still cant understand
@@altamont6585 what do you not understand?
@@koekiejam18 about the assymetrical of vehicles design in war thunder. Is it gaijin fault or is it based irl design?
@@altamont6585 Gaijin has properly modeled these vehicles, go and look up pictures of these vehicles in real life.
I know that Gaijin knows about the Mig-21 because in simulator battles the airbrake cannot be deployed with countermeasures loadout, it is the worst.
The loading screen with the T-2 japanese fighter shows a bomb loadout with 7 bombs( 3 under each wing and one under the fuselage). This layout doesnt exist in game as the T-2 can only carry 5 bombs.
doesn't exist anymore, It was removed & remake as the current loadout.
Or the f6f with drop tanks
0:37
I think the tail might be off-centered to counter prop torque, like how some modern single-prop planes have offset propellers. I'm not fully sure, but I think thats what that is.
Yeah the macchis are built with asymmetrical wings as an attempt to compensate for the engine torque, also I'm sure that all the off-center rudders are meant for such purpose
Yes, it's the same thing with the rudders, countering engine torque.
eh... the rudder thing isn't exactly countering the torque of the engine/propeller. but is countering other funky stuff from the propeller which causes a left yaw
3:10 in the same screen you can seen that there is a JU-87 with bombs and gunpods
You can get bombs and gun pods :)
keep in mind that the AGMS arent so powerfull as the Ss11, they hwve much less tnt and cant one shot that easily
Never question the snail.
The reasoning behind the Panzer IV's turret iirc was to allow the transmission to pass underneath
The BTD-1 tail pointing off center is actually by intentional design. It's like that to offset yaw from the propeller.
00:40 this was done irl to counteract the torque from the engine as well as the asymmetrical thrust that happens with powerful prop planes due to one side of the prop having a higher angle of attack then the other.
0:01
Me, a Tanker: "Anything new?"
You miss something, if you aim down low enough in L6/40 you can see a bit of mg's magazine clipping through the roof of the turret
The off centre tail is real thing to prevent the plane from turning because of the way the spins modern propeller aircraft also have engines slightly aimed right to fix this problem
i think the tbds tail is supposed to be offset to make up for the propellers slip stream so it doesn't turn to the left. also the hole on the f4u is a footstep
There are 3 physical reasons tails may be offset. 1st is the gyroscopic procession due to the spinning engine/propeller.
2nd is the extra thrust from the upward spinning blade while the aircrafts angle of attack is pitched upward.
3rd is the direction the air flows around the fuselage and strikes the tail
from my understanding, the reason some aircraft have off-center/askew vertical tails is to counteract the torque created by the engine. every example of the off-center tails has been on a propeller driven aircraft, where jet's obviously don't need to worry about that sense there's no torque created from the engines.
correct
The HE-111 always makes me itch when I have to see it 😂
1:50 the different wing lenghts is something pretty common, it's one of the tricks designers do to counter the roll caused by the propeller's rotation in single engine aircraft, I'd risk saying the BTD's offset tail has the same purpouse.
Now send this video to a friend so you don't have to suffer alone.
Already done!
Thanks for this helpful guide on how to annoy people in war thunder lmao
Oh trust me im making others suffer. *Also my pinn xD*
I have noticed like half of it so it's not really a pain for me :v
You forgot that one of the Me410's can carry 2x500kb bombs that clip into each other and through tge bomb bay. And dont look and or count the object 120 ammo.
I am medically diagnosed with OCD. Thanks to this video I have a hospital bill of 10k because it has given me a heart attack.
/joke
asymetrical tails on props was by design IRL. Also, wow, the Mig-21MF air brake doesnt work with the countermeasure pod. you get an error saying equipment is in the way or something like that
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the absolutely infuriating rectangular edge in the right wing of all P-47’s
1:43 Ah yes, "Melon Maus"
I think the rudder is off-center because the propeller pushes air around the plane causing it to push the rudder to the side if it isn't off center. Some plane might have a tilted propeller too in this game if it has a straight rudder.
The chat box one always gets me. Being a team player, the box opening always makes my eyes dart towards it but then I see it's completely blank
When i first saw the Abrams one i had to look for all of them if they all are unsymetrical... They all are
2:55 The cockpit is designed like this so the pilot can see out in front, not having the gunner in the line of sight
I think the reason they did the un-aligned B point for Sweden, was for balance. Since if you can hold cap from all 4 corners, you can easily put the heavy tanks for all 4 corners and make it really hard for the other team
As someone with a very practical mind I found this whole video mildly interesting. Asymmetry is pretty useful in engineering.
The random rectangle on the wing of the corsair is actually a step for the pilot to climb into and out of the cockpit.
1:13 YOU'VE GOT A HOLE IN YOUR RIGHT WING
surprised to not see the line between the thousand and hundred position in the warbond currency mentioned, that shit KILLS me.
lmfao I was laughing with you when you mentioned the Abrams turret. Never gets old telling some Abramsismyfavoritetank freeaboo that the turret is asymmetrical and they go "WHAAT!?"
It's pretty obvious that the turret is asymmetrical and the reason is pretty obvious when you go into x-ray view. Not sure why you get a kick out of people not knowing this. To each his own I suppose.
@@StudleyDuderight Yeah, everyone that likes the Abrams plays War Thunder, totally
@@kevinl2482 Well considering this is a War Thunder video...
@@StudleyDuderightStill, a surprising amount of people that play War Thunder that like the Abrams don't know that the turret is asymmetrical. Unless you're telling me all those people that got told this were acting.
If i recall correctly, the tail of the BTD-1 being off-center is to combat the forces exerted on the plane by the engine/propeller
1:03 This is due to the mounts they used. You'll see that the mounts are rotated by 180 degrees. So that way they can use the same part on both sides.
Actually they are different. The Ram Air Turbine drops out on the aircraft bottom right side to power flight controls in an engine failure, and the air refueling probe comes out of the upper left, so the bottom right and top left missiles are each located to accommodate those items.
@@larrythorn4715 Really? neat. I was just using my best guess since I noticed it on my own in game.
0:28 the Minecraft thingy
That feeling when Zoltan uploads a video like that thinking that my day will be ruined, but I actually love asymmetrical shapes. 💙 cheers mate!
Weirdo... get away from me :c
@@aenaros6845 cringe symmetry lover spotted, get him out
@@Nafinafnaf Average asymetrical fan spotted, opinion rejected.
-From your symetrical shapes enyojer.
3:57 I'm pretty sure this has to do with chat bans, when someone that's chat banned tries to speak, it auto opens the text box like someone is speaking but nothing appears since they were chat banned
I think its the firefly or firebrand, maybe both, who also have the off-center rudder. irl I think it was to counteract prop torque but idk.
This video does a good job explaining it
ruclips.net/video/v_5PRSndKYo/видео.html
It has to do with both the airflow and the prop angle of attack
fun fact, you can see a little flap right below the rudder of the F2G-1 moving to the right if you set takeoff/landing flap and it's used to correct the yaw made from the rectangle hole on the flaps since the side with the hole have less drag
0:04 Jokes on you already knew it from the Gunner Heat PC Discord Actionscripter did a funn joke with kinda same pic you did
Churchill III has a unsymmetrical turret.
2:44 No one noticed the "e here" text, sad
The I-16 too has an ofset tail. And when you make airplane skins, you find out that there's its own set of misalignments in mapping and other weird warped stuff.
3:02 the Ju 87 G doesn't have secondary weaponry either.
Found out the hard way
3:27 ahhh I have the French heli!!! I have seen no one talk about it for years so I’m hyped
4:10 I hate knowing this but I'm also glad I know it
tail wing offset is used to counter force the spinning from the porfeul motor
4:40 shhhhhhh dont tell gaijin or else they will fix it
There is an occasional glitch within hangars that makes so that all the planes' rudders are slightly activated to one side
As a perfectionist, I now hate you (jk, I love your content!)
I'm not sure how I feel about real life design quirks being lumped in with actual model errors
3:42 Hungarian quality
Also levitating tank tracks keep appearing behind your tank as you keep switching between third person and gun all sights in ground battles. This started to happen after the recent update.
1:30 I’ve seen comments about everything else but not about Mi… why? I personally don’t know if it’s a bug or a feature, but he just looks sleepy to me. He needs some oil mixed with coffee to fully wake him up.
All I can say is, the MI was built like this IRL. Even up to the Mi-35, I'm not too sure of why
British Spitfire F Mk IX has a double space in the name and I'm waiting literally for years for them to fix this.
I think I’m the first one here.
I think you are
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"WE"
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Rudder being slightly off to one side is to help counteract a high speed airstream that corkscrews around the fuselage from the props, and literally pushes on the left side of the rudder. Also the plane with the right wing being 8 inches longer is to counteract the engines rotational torque
You missed one! The French M.B. 157’s engine cowling is tilted quite significantly!
The F-8’s missiles are asymmetrical because of the RAT!
The Mi-24 is tilted to counter transverse lift!
The Italian Re-2002 had its rudder offset to counter the engine torque on takeoff.
I got one. The PO-2 star on its rudder is off center and directly in your face so whenever you fly it you have to stare at it
The btd1 vertical stabilizer is supposed to be off-center to help mitigate the yawning effect from spiral slipstream.
The gun of the Leopard 2 is actually very slightly off center in the breach to accomodate for the coaxial MG
I've noticed the back fin of the F-4 Phantom ll had a smiley face, ever since Ace Combat
On one of the premium MiG-29's, I think the SPS-K, the rearview mirror shows up in the cockpit view, but not on the outside of the plane