Thanks Jason, I have been studying your videos on smelting and I will be setting myself up to recover my fine gold from my concentrates as the gold I am able to produce is very fine and difficult to separate further through gravity separation. By showing your problem pours along with your successful pours it should help me assemble a system and reduce my cash outlay for the system. Thanks again, Bob Wall
That claim owner has to be happy with your results!! That was a good video/lesson learned to not throw out your black sands untill they are officially done with.. great video....
Jason anyone who does not like your videos should look behind and down. These Videos are so informative in a year think 2 I will be trying my hand at it. You are a very good teacher. Thanks Ray
How many people are kicking themselves for throwing out possibly enough gold and silver to buy a house, if you've been doing it for years!!! Have a GREAT Day!!!
WOW. great return. I couldn't believe how a material makes up 3% of the whole, yet is invisible to the naked eye. I'd figure to see at least ALMOST microscopic specks of gold or silver in it. I smelt, and recover/refine gold, and started to do the same with silver. The pyyamid cupel route is absolutely worth learning. I appreciate what you are doing. Where are you from?
a simple question do you have any plan on making a more permanent foundry with refractory material? As the exposed kale wool will send out fibers thru the air, and is not good for your lungs.
So now you need to take that button and dissolve it in H2SO4 and HNO3 then add some Na2S2O5 (sodium metabisulfite) until your Stannis Chloride test comes back negative and smelt the precipitate for the 999 fine gold. If you capture the liquid from the precipitate and pour it in a bucket with copper in it silver will form in precipitate and cling to the copper. (yes I know that platinum group metals come out of solution with the silver in copper. You have to reprocess the silver to remove the platinum group metals) So you get all the precious metals out of the button that you can. Great video on this subject sir!!! Love your videos and the time they take.
Thanks for the info! All this time I've been panning out my black sands, and I could have just melted them...way faster! Thank you for sharing the tools and material you used, now I know what to order for my summer time project.
Not only that.. all the nonvisable material. Lesson learned for me, luckily I've only chucked 1 bucket of black sands thinking it was done after blue bowling it all. Looking through the loupe I was always wondering what those shiny metallic silverish grains were.
The ancient Romans sold a lot of lead from which they had removed the silver content, marking the ingots “ex argentum”. Any idea how they managed that on an industrial scale? Just curious, and you might have some info. Next, how did they refine all the silver from lead in Leadville , CO?
Absolutely epic! Love those results! I can’t wait to process my crushed gold ore, and my black sands! I even crushed the magnetite an Hematite to help release its precious metals! I’m building up for a awesome video! Thanks for the insight and great information
Do you have a trusted source for any high grade ore samples? I'm looking to do another demo video for my crusher and would like to use some good ore that will show good visible results after crushing, instead of the usual powdered material. I've seen your reviews on paydirt before and thought I'd ask about a high grade source. Thanks!
If the black sands were ground finer, would the shaker table then be able to separate the gold out? Since it stands to reason the super fine precious metals are lost in the larger granules of sand
Jason congratulations for and awesome instructional video. I'm glad that I saw this because our alluvial claim has very small micro gold that is hard to pan out but we have huge amounts of sulfides. Since this is the second video I seen of your work I would like to send samples and evaluate our recovery process. Best Regards
Great videos you have been putting out. Although I live where there are no sources for neither silver nor gold I really like your straightforward explanantions and demonstrations. I find the whole process very fascinating and I hope you will continue to do well.
so what your saying is to keep all of your black sands from the clean up till you get how much? then ship to a refiner? just making sure i get this straight,, thank you for another great video, be safe, be strong, be free, be blessed
Fascinating work. The thought occurred watching the mold full of poured molten material: would vibration of the pyramid-shaped vessel increase settlement of lead and precious metal? The vibration could be mechanical or mechanical as by ultrasonic vibration, possibly even radiofrequency. What do you think Jason?
Hi I'm Shawn it's 10:30pm and I just watched your video. I'm new to seeking gold and I have a lot of black sand and I'm very interested in learning to smelt, any help would be appreciated, thanks have a great day!
Hey great video! What an awesome recovery! So, is there an assayer outfit you might recommend? My son has a considerable amount of black sands that he and I are convinced contains gold and/or silver but it is extremely difficult to process...
So the gold and silver must have been attached to the black sand if you did not detect much by panning. Wonder what your xrf would show when reading the concentrates before smelting.
Yet you're on the internet with all that information at your fingertips and, ironically, within the time it took you to type this message, you could have answered yourself and NOT looked like an idiot. And society wonders why they're doomed... no thought process and only doing as they're told.
Jason another great video I saw you used an iron rod again how do you keep the precious metals off the rod? And you were using Portland cement as a qupel in a previous video, how did you keep it in the shape of a cup? And do you recommend Portland cement as a qupel for diy'ers?
I finally have a bucket full of old sand & gravel from gold paydirt I bought, but mostly sand and gravel from the local rivers. I've got all the gold panned out that I could possibly find and saved in a vile, and I was keeping the heavy concentrate in separate containers, but do to needing to dispose of a lot of rocks, gravel & sand, I've mixed a bunch of it into a "catch and release" bucket. Now I'm back to thinking I need to just get all the heavy stuff and smelt it all as I had been planning. Argh! I'm never going to get rid of anything and someday I'll be on an episode of hoarders as some old crazy dude living in a house with buckets of rock, sand and dirt stacked to the ceiling and floors on the verge of collapse....At least I'll be on TV!
Omg you sound exactly like me! Even down to the catch and release bucket. Rocks in containers and cabinets in every room of my house…so I’m not the only one. Waiting on a gas kiln that should be here this week, then I’m gonna fire them up! 🤩
So Im just learning about all this. My question is. Can precious metals be turned to liquid.? Not molten either. Can it then be returned to precious metal. ?
in the bead and matte. He re-refined it to get rid of the matte then combined it with the other smelts which had only 10 more grams of Lead. He had 20 grams of Lead in the final Cupel.
I know it for comments but iam having trouble smelting when i start smelting the contents is thick and sticky in the Crucible and having trouble getting it out what am i doing worng
Always learn much from you Jason. Once I get all the equipment if I could smelt for 4-5 dollars per session this would be practical. However there is more to be lernt about smelting, flux formulas etc.. It seems without smelting I would not recover anything in my area. What kind of educational course would you recommend? Other than high school chemistry. This would be better than travailing hundreds of miles away to find a few specks of gold. N'est pa?
Can you do the same thing with black beach sand from Washington? I can even see the gold, but I can’t get it out it is so beyond small! It is frustrating.
Another great and informative vid Jason , you were pretty close with your gold content estimate almost 65 % on the XRF gun , ohh how i would love one of those things , but very expensive indeed , lol , top vid mate cheers .
I like the Xray anilizer ... How much would it cost to have a sample of material anilized ? How much material would be needed to get a good representation of the area i want to check out? I am have no shortage of samples to check. I know there will be alot of iron. There is enough garnet to give a red tone to the black sands. There is ultra heavy blond sand that I think is shelite. A.k.a. tungensten sands. It easily falls under magnitite and garnet and iron. Differant sulfates are throughout but are very fine
I was born and raised in the Mojave Desert on the Mesa, but mostly heading out towards Johnson Valley, 29 Palms, which is a total mining town to anyone who’s paying attention. We have lots of fine gold in the sand at Deep Creek and some PMG’s going up the mountain. You can see some of it in the granite, like silvery gold threads. So pretty.
Hi sir We have 10 Mton ilmenite ore Which TI 37 and Pd 4 and Rh 5 .in 3 .Fe 37 . Sn 2 and silver 2 percent How can we extract If you need sample advise me
I really enjoyed your video. I’m shopping fire brick and some crucibles because I really want to make an old school furnace with a plaster lid. I’ve been watching some videos getting some ideas from everyone
Hello Jason, I am from Sudan. I have some brown stones in which yellow particles appear. Do they be oxidized first, then after that they are smelted with borax and sodium carbonate, or are smelting directly? Another question: Is smelting the stones with borax and sodium carbonate only, or is there a second smelting thing? Thank you
he mentioned in a video I watched earlier today about using silver, basically you lose a little bit of silver due to the flux, so if you added silver as a collector you'd end up losing some of that silver to recover the other silver... so kinda of a waste. while using lead you only lose what amount of silver you were originally going to lose.
WE HAVE A LOT OF BLACK SAND IN THE CREEK BUT NO VISIBLE GOLD . THERE IS A LOT TO LEARN ABOUT THIS . DO YOU THINK THERE COULD BE GOLD IN THE SAND . I LIVE IN WESTERN NC. IF THAT HELPS. ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE ME ON HOW TO GET STARTED ON TESTING THE BLACK SAND WOULD BE GREAT. I'M NEW AT THIS , I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO GET THE LYE .
Simply the rod will convert in the flux all the sulfide releasing all the bonded sulfide metals to free metals with no matte at the end. Filings would be a measurement and if you get it wrong you will have unprocessed sulfide and have matte in your pour plus they will be in your pour when you pour which can affect your lead button. The rod is simply removed making an easy pour and no side effects in the pour.
Where will the Palladium go? I've been told there's a lot in Georgia Black sand. There's a silvery white something in the black sand fines that won't stick to mercury.
By far the best real life educational smelting video I've seen. I enjoyed watching. Thank you.
Thanks Jason, I have been studying your videos on smelting and I will be setting myself up to recover my fine gold from my concentrates as the gold I am able to produce is very fine and difficult to separate further through gravity separation. By showing your problem pours along with your successful pours it should help me assemble a system and reduce my cash outlay for the system.
Thanks again,
Bob Wall
Hard work fascinates me. I could watch it for hours.
That claim owner has to be happy with your results!! That was a good video/lesson learned to not throw out your black sands untill they are officially done with.. great video....
Jason anyone who does not like your videos should look behind and down. These Videos are so informative in a year think 2 I will be trying my hand at it. You are a very good teacher. Thanks Ray
this channel should have waaaaaay more subscribers and views.
Again you have the best Info for smelting gold ore , step by step and that's why you are my favorite chanal . Thank u
For anyone wondering the gold content in that button is worth about $540.00~$560. The silver is worth about $2.00-$3.00.
Thank you.That is just AWESOME!
and the palladium content around $5
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How many people are kicking themselves for throwing out possibly enough gold and silver to buy a house, if you've been doing it for years!!!
Have a GREAT Day!!!
makes me want to find someones tailings and run that stuff
True
WOW. great return. I couldn't believe how a material makes up 3% of the whole, yet is invisible to the naked eye. I'd figure to see at least ALMOST microscopic specks of gold or silver in it. I smelt, and recover/refine gold, and started to do the same with silver. The pyyamid cupel route is absolutely worth learning. I appreciate what you are doing. Where are you from?
a simple question do you have any plan on making a more permanent foundry with refractory material?
As the exposed kale wool will send out fibers thru the air, and is not good for your lungs.
instablaster
So cool how the density tests worked out, very interesting! Thank you for sharing those methods.
really well-done. i'm getting a lab set-up this winter for small smelts and your vids really help tremendously. well done!
I really wish you would have 100 x magnification of your samples so I can compare to what I find, please.
I am neither a miner nor a smelter- I still find your videos very interesting. Well edited and produced.
So now you need to take that button and dissolve it in H2SO4 and HNO3 then add some Na2S2O5 (sodium metabisulfite) until your Stannis Chloride test comes back negative and smelt the precipitate for the 999 fine gold. If you capture the liquid from the precipitate and pour it in a bucket with copper in it silver will form in precipitate and cling to the copper. (yes I know that platinum group metals come out of solution with the silver in copper. You have to reprocess the silver to remove the platinum group metals) So you get all the precious metals out of the button that you can. Great video on this subject sir!!! Love your videos and the time they take.
Wow jason ,the camera dint lie ,that bead looked gold !
Thanks mate for another awesome video.
Great video as usual. I think you are generating alot of interest in smelting... and clearing up alot of questions about it.
Thanks!
Thanks for the info! All this time I've been panning out my black sands, and I could have just melted them...way faster! Thank you for sharing the tools and material you used, now I know what to order for my summer time project.
Not only that.. all the nonvisable material. Lesson learned for me, luckily I've only chucked 1 bucket of black sands thinking it was done after blue bowling it all. Looking through the loupe I was always wondering what those shiny metallic silverish grains were.
thats why you save the black sands because you never know if there’s still gold
The ancient Romans sold a lot of lead from which they had removed the silver content, marking the ingots “ex argentum”. Any idea how they managed that on an industrial scale? Just curious, and you might have some info. Next, how did they refine all the silver from lead in Leadville , CO?
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Absolutely epic! Love those results! I can’t wait to process my crushed gold ore, and my black sands! I even crushed the magnetite an Hematite to help release its precious metals! I’m building up for a awesome video! Thanks for the insight and great information
Do you have a trusted source for any high grade ore samples? I'm looking to do another demo video for my crusher and would like to use some good ore that will show good visible results after crushing, instead of the usual powdered material. I've seen your reviews on paydirt before and thought I'd ask about a high grade source. Thanks!
Is the black sand is iron ? I have black sand and its attachments for magnatic , is it have ore gold ?
I have a forge I built but need a smelter . So I’m building one as well. Refining my first cat ! Appreciate your vids! Thanks for the info
Dont put your cat in the smelter.
If the black sands were ground finer, would the shaker table then be able to separate the gold out? Since it stands to reason the super fine precious metals are lost in the larger granules of sand
Sir, whatever quantity you have told to mix in this, how much quantity to mix: and what are their names, will you tell me
The smelting and smithing videos are so cool.
Jason congratulations for and awesome instructional video. I'm glad that I saw this because our alluvial claim has very small micro gold that is hard to pan out but we have huge amounts of sulfides. Since this is the second video I seen of your work I would like to send samples and evaluate our recovery process. Best Regards
Great videos you have been putting out. Although I live where there are no sources for neither silver nor gold I really like your straightforward explanantions and demonstrations. I find the whole process very fascinating and I hope you will continue to do well.
so what your saying is to keep all of your black sands from the clean up till you get how much? then ship to a refiner? just making sure i get this straight,, thank you for another great video, be safe, be strong, be free, be blessed
Fascinating work. The thought occurred watching the mold full of poured molten material: would vibration of the pyramid-shaped vessel increase settlement of lead and precious metal? The vibration could be mechanical or mechanical as by ultrasonic vibration, possibly even radiofrequency. What do you think Jason?
Bro you make math and science fun, awesome channel I always enjoy and learn something new thanks for sharing your knowledge.
wow that shows why you need to keep your old cleaned out ? concentrates to later check them more carefully when you have the time.
Hi I'm Shawn it's 10:30pm and I just watched your video. I'm new to seeking gold and I have a lot of black sand and I'm very interested in learning to smelt, any help would be appreciated, thanks have a great day!
Also, can i use my electric smelter in the same way you do for the first melt before finishing in a cuviet?
Jason, that is absolutely awesome. I am so glad I have saved most of my black sand cons tailings.
Hey great video! What an awesome recovery! So, is there an assayer outfit you might recommend? My son has a considerable amount of black sands that he and I are convinced contains gold and/or silver but it is extremely difficult to process...
Is there any way of separating the gold and silver
You are a great teacher...Thank Q...I wonder if there might be more gold etc left...I am a thinkin a microwave the rest might be worth a look see
Wisconsin is mostly black sands and flour gold
Amazing! must keep all black sands. Very little here in middle Tennessee. What an education I'm getting. Thank you
Something Ive never heard with such excitment... "Wow look at that thing, it's huge"!
Is it possible to separate/concentrate the precious metals in these black sands even more with the shaker table?
nice pour. that was cool fam. GOLD SQUAD OUT!!!
So the gold and silver must have been attached to the black sand if you did not detect much by panning. Wonder what your xrf would show when reading the concentrates before smelting.
I dont understand the first thing about what you're doing there but it sure is cool to watch
Yet you're on the internet with all that information at your fingertips and, ironically, within the time it took you to type this message, you could have answered yourself and NOT looked like an idiot.
And society wonders why they're doomed... no thought process and only doing as they're told.
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As is your useless commenting that takes up scroll space...
Me - a vet techie, stumbling upo Your channel: Intresting.
Jason another great video I saw you used an iron rod again how do you keep the precious metals off the rod? And you were using Portland cement as a qupel in a previous video, how did you keep it in the shape of a cup? And do you recommend Portland cement as a qupel for diy'ers?
Was wondering the same he makes it look so easy and does a awsome job with the videos
You say 300 grams of sulfides That was new. How do I get it?
Thank you for your smelt recipe observations, I may use this to try and hack away at some copper sulphide-rich magnetite
I finally have a bucket full of old sand & gravel from gold paydirt I bought, but mostly sand and gravel from the local rivers. I've got all the gold panned out that I could possibly find and saved in a vile, and I was keeping the heavy concentrate in separate containers, but do to needing to dispose of a lot of rocks, gravel & sand, I've mixed a bunch of it into a "catch and release" bucket. Now I'm back to thinking I need to just get all the heavy stuff and smelt it all as I had been planning. Argh! I'm never going to get rid of anything and someday I'll be on an episode of hoarders as some old crazy dude living in a house with buckets of rock, sand and dirt stacked to the ceiling and floors on the verge of collapse....At least I'll be on TV!
Omg you sound exactly like me! Even down to the catch and release bucket. Rocks in containers and cabinets in every room of my house…so I’m not the only one. Waiting on a gas kiln that should be here this week, then I’m gonna fire them up! 🤩
So Im just learning about all this. My question is. Can precious metals be turned to liquid.? Not molten either. Can it then be returned to precious metal. ?
Yes.
Watch Sreetips here on YT.
You will see.
where did the 10 grams of lead go in first smelt?
in the bead and matte.
He re-refined it to get rid of the matte then combined it with the other smelts which had only 10 more grams of Lead.
He had 20 grams of Lead in the final Cupel.
I know it for comments but iam having trouble smelting when i start smelting the contents is thick and sticky in the Crucible and having trouble getting it out what am i doing worng
Always learn much from you Jason. Once I get all the equipment if I could smelt for 4-5 dollars per session this would be practical. However there is more to be lernt about smelting, flux formulas etc.. It seems without smelting I would not recover anything in my area.
What kind of educational course would you recommend? Other than high school chemistry.
This would be better than travailing hundreds of miles away to find a few specks of gold. N'est pa?
Invaluable information!! WELL DONE!
I have a few buckets of concentrates I'd like analyzed what would you charge if I bring them to you.
Great vid. Still trying to figure out the smelting proccess for the placer concentrates I am recovering
Gold to Ya !
With such strongly alkaline fluxes, what method is used for disposing of the slag?
I found pyrite in my water bore hole on 35 meter's. Is there a chance of gold in further depth?
Would there be a disadvantage to having more lye added to begin with for the excess base, could you be any negative effects on the smelt?
Your questions were the same as mine. Was the lye okay to start out with in the first place? I’m just starting out with a kiln n crucible.
Great video brother! Keep up the great work!
Whoa....It makes you wonder about all the tailings piles all over the planet that have been left behind after thousands of years of gold mining.
Yes if those old operations were running gravitational separation of free milling gold techniques, there will be a lot left.
Can you do the same thing with black beach sand from Washington? I can even see the gold, but I can’t get it out it is so beyond small! It is frustrating.
While I'd love the idea of doing this, I am so amateurish, I don't even know where to start. Thumbs Up!
I've played with the thought but that's as far as I went . to many other irons in the fire . maybe in a few years
So if there is no mat , the button will have silver in the gold , if you do have mat the silver will be in the mat and the button will be all gold ?
Another great and informative vid Jason , you were pretty close with your gold content estimate almost 65 % on the XRF gun , ohh how i would love one of those things , but very expensive indeed , lol , top vid mate cheers .
I’m not sure, but aren’t those concentrations pretty much what you’re looking for for enquarting the gold for refining?
I like the Xray anilizer ... How much would it cost to have a sample of material anilized ? How much material would be needed to get a good representation of the area i want to check out? I am have no shortage of samples to check. I know there will be alot of iron. There is enough garnet to give a red tone to the black sands. There is ultra heavy blond sand that I think is shelite. A.k.a. tungensten sands. It easily falls under magnitite and garnet and iron. Differant sulfates are throughout but are very fine
Did you roast the concentrates at any point?
Amazing results, Great channel BTW
Please help me...
What is the material can i use for smelt gold from sand??
Do you program your cupelling furnace?
Wow! Big button dude!
Thanks buddy
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i live in CA high desert and i notice that the sand have lost of shining particles
I was born and raised in the Mojave Desert on the Mesa, but mostly heading out towards Johnson Valley, 29 Palms, which is a total mining town to anyone who’s paying attention. We have lots of fine gold in the sand at Deep Creek and some PMG’s going up the mountain. You can see some of it in the granite, like silvery gold threads. So pretty.
@@elvyrarendon2150 yes I've seen them
Did you remove the magnetics before the smelt?thank you.
Great video! I really enjoyed this one!
How can I learn...I really want to do this but have no idea on how and where to start from...
Awesome explained! Great math at the end! Thanks and keep on!
Will do! More to come
So if the gold wasn't pannable... what form was it in? Dissolved in sulphides?
wow i found a pit of black sand. sure wish i could what you did in the video. is there a trade school to learn how to smelt gold?
At what consentration of metals do you need to not have a collector metal?
Hi sir
We have 10 Mton ilmenite ore
Which TI 37 and Pd 4 and Rh 5 .in 3 .Fe 37 . Sn 2 and silver 2 percent
How can we extract
If you need sample advise me
привет! Сколько времени занимает плавка?
I really enjoyed your video. I’m shopping fire brick and some crucibles because I really want to make an old school furnace with a plaster lid. I’ve been watching some videos getting some ideas from everyone
how do you get the gold out of the glass .thank you
Great presentation.
Hello Jason, I am from Sudan. I have some brown stones in which yellow particles appear. Do they be oxidized first, then after that they are smelted with borax and sodium carbonate, or are smelting directly? Another question: Is smelting the stones with borax and sodium carbonate only, or is there a second smelting thing? Thank you
How does, or can the silver and gold get separated?
Thanks much for these great videos! I recall that you used to use electric kilns in your videos. Do you no longer use them?
What do you use for a forge? How much do they run? I wanna get one wish I had one when I scrapped a bunch.
that was great,,,,,,,,,those black sands are worth smelting,,,,,if they are like what you had,,,,,
Good job with cuppellation , what’s the weight of new cupel just heard that it absorbs 60-70% of lead , please
Wow! Good job. I've got lots of black sand from Cape Cod and could not pan out anything. Maybe there was gold in it.
Good vid. I wonder if you could use silver for the collector and not cupel it???
he mentioned in a video I watched earlier today about using silver, basically you lose a little bit of silver due to the flux, so if you added silver as a collector you'd end up losing some of that silver to recover the other silver... so kinda of a waste.
while using lead you only lose what amount of silver you were originally going to lose.
WE HAVE A LOT OF BLACK SAND IN THE CREEK BUT NO VISIBLE GOLD . THERE IS A LOT TO LEARN ABOUT THIS . DO YOU THINK THERE COULD BE GOLD IN THE SAND . I LIVE IN WESTERN NC. IF THAT HELPS. ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE ME ON HOW TO GET STARTED ON TESTING THE BLACK SAND WOULD BE GREAT. I'M NEW AT THIS , I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO GET THE LYE .
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Same question as before, why use an iron rod rather than iron filings directly into the flucx charge?
Simply the rod will convert in the flux all the sulfide releasing all the bonded sulfide metals to free metals with no matte at the end.
Filings would be a measurement and if you get it wrong you will have unprocessed sulfide and have matte in your pour plus they will be in your pour when you pour which can affect your lead button.
The rod is simply removed making an easy pour and no side effects in the pour.
Where/how do you learn how to do this type of thing?
What's the best refinery to sale your melted gold to. Plus hopefully give you money for the other metals to
Where will the Palladium go? I've been told there's a lot in Georgia Black sand. There's a silvery white something in the black sand fines that won't stick to mercury.
i loved your video, finally someone that can put it in plain english. Do you have a refining business?
I got a whole lot of -100mesh that I've been holding until I had a plan
This is that plan. Good speed