Do Your Buckets Of Black Sands Have Value? Assay For Gold At Home To Find Out!

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  • Опубликовано: 6 апр 2020
  • This method is easy to do and will determine if there is any gold or silver in your buckets of black sands/sulfides you have laying around. This could be free gold that is hard to recover by gold panning or gold that is locked up in sulfides or iron pyrite. First roast the black sands to oxidize any sulfides, then smelt to recover any gold or silver. Next process is cupelling the lead collector metal to reveal the gold and silver collected from the smelt. Once the amount of gold is determined then it is easy to tell if there is enough value to save those buckets!
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Комментарии • 553

  • @MTGMitch
    @MTGMitch 4 года назад +322

    Are you a miner? No.
    Do you have a refinery? No
    Do you want to watch this video at 3am? Sure why not.

    • @StevenHanover
      @StevenHanover 3 года назад +1

      Lot of iron in the blue bloods? @everyone is mine crafter. Kitchen witches.

    • @youbannedmealready5825
      @youbannedmealready5825 3 года назад +3

      Literally 2:57am lol

    • @anthonywheeler6133
      @anthonywheeler6133 3 года назад +1

      Get a cast iron flat top griddle, maybe that’d hold up better.

    • @Freedom20244
      @Freedom20244 3 года назад

      I am watching it on 10:50

    • @Freedom20244
      @Freedom20244 3 года назад

      Not the video rhe time :v

  • @WowplayerMe
    @WowplayerMe 4 года назад +49

    For me the piss off value to the wife is more valuable than any precious metal recovery.

  • @SECRETCREEKPROSPECTING1776
    @SECRETCREEKPROSPECTING1776 7 месяцев назад +2

    This was really helpful Jason. Time to ditch it. One thing I have learned is black sands works really well as step one in a rock tumbler to smooth the sharp edges on rocks. So one could sell the black sands as step one tumbling grit 😅

  • @jcpark7242
    @jcpark7242 4 года назад +54

    I’m surprised that $1 cookie sheet lasted as long as it did. 😳

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +9

      We are too! Thanks for watching our video!

    • @karinanur7844
      @karinanur7844 3 года назад

      @@mbmmllc 60 gr Gold in 1 ton of black sand it is very big persent and absolutely impossible !!!!!

    • @outdoorfrenzy
      @outdoorfrenzy 2 года назад

      Seriously!! When I saw it hadn’t buckled and was red in color I was impressed!! I had figured he would have had to go to the cast iron.

    • @madmike8325
      @madmike8325 2 года назад +1

      Right! I was expecting it to warp and be scrap after a few minutes 😂

    • @jamesmurray116
      @jamesmurray116 2 года назад

      😄

  • @christianpervert525
    @christianpervert525 3 года назад +14

    You and the guy who mines platinum from the freeway should get together and have a beer.

    • @ciph4223
      @ciph4223 3 года назад +4

      Dude MBMM and Cody’slab is the best combo

    • @blueridgeocean
      @blueridgeocean 3 года назад +2

      I wonder does the states dot refine the dirt and dust from the freeway sweepers?

    • @JakHart
      @JakHart 3 года назад

      @@blueridgeocean it isn't cost effective, you have to hire people, and collection machines, and then processing machines as well.
      Although, right now there is a platinum/palladium shortage, so it could be worth it, eventually.

    • @yaykruser
      @yaykruser 3 года назад +1

      Codyslab and The Cerro Gordo guy should make a video together extracting some silver from the mines!

    • @40astmdhm3
      @40astmdhm3 3 года назад +1

      How dare you call Cody "that guy" I'm calling the feds

  • @robmckennie4203
    @robmckennie4203 3 года назад +5

    Really good job on some of those shots, especially the cooling flux, it looks like you can see the convection cells moving around

  • @cditzler6313
    @cditzler6313 4 года назад +3

    I never really got the cupel theory until just now very well at least that i could understand explained so thank you for that

    • @cditzler6313
      @cditzler6313 4 года назад

      plus on ads I hope you get a nice payout from this one that is 41:07 long I'll just let it run out

  • @davidvilla3243
    @davidvilla3243 3 года назад +6

    I was told when roasting black sands to add salt to the mix---Is this a-go with this process? Thanks for the advise. DAvid out

  • @sparky6086
    @sparky6086 4 года назад +19

    Was totally expecting the cookie sheet to "springwarp" from the heat, throwing the sand everwhere!

  • @ZE0XE0
    @ZE0XE0 4 года назад +6

    The only trick may be if theres a way to separate out the gold bearing minerals more such as flotation or magnetic, or static, etc. If you could reduce those 38kg into 500g and maintain a large majority of the gold without expending too much money, it could be worth stockpiling until you have enough to process.

  • @AdamsWorlds
    @AdamsWorlds 3 года назад

    Sweet vid, lovely to hear yeah kid getting excited about first pour! Future smelter in the making right there :D

  • @garyssprinklerrepair
    @garyssprinklerrepair 2 года назад +1

    This video helped answer many questions I had, thank you. 👊

  • @zamistro
    @zamistro 4 года назад +35

    Maybe you could make a "cookie sheet" out of the same steel that you made the cone mold from. Also, if the economy really does tank as bad as some people think it could you may find yourself out on your driveway with a broom and dustpan.

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +7

      haha, agreed

    • @genli5603
      @genli5603 4 года назад +4

      Old griddle will do

    • @earthknight60
      @earthknight60 3 года назад +3

      Cost more in paying for the energy to process it than you'd get from the metals.

    • @reportofficer2524
      @reportofficer2524 2 года назад

      @zamistro Hahahahah !!! That's a really cool one !!

    • @Methoverbitches
      @Methoverbitches 2 года назад

      So exactly as it has 😂

  • @RayMerrell68
    @RayMerrell68 4 года назад +3

    3:37 Had to laugh there. As you were cooking it I was thinking "How does he stop the tray from being eaten?"
    Now I know :D

  • @captainblood9162
    @captainblood9162 4 года назад +3

    I have much the same results from hard rock sulphide ore, not a lot of $ left in there, just put it through the mill again for re-grind.
    Always worth checking to see what your recovery is, goes to show how bloody good your table works! Enjoy your vids, cheers!

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +1

      Great point! Thanks for watching!

  • @CanadairCL44
    @CanadairCL44 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for this video, the cooling process was fascinating to watch!

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @WestCoastGoldProspecting
    @WestCoastGoldProspecting Год назад +1

    Good job Jason, this was cool to watch.

  • @mahatmadoo2566
    @mahatmadoo2566 4 года назад +3

    Great video, thanks for going through all that effort.

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +2

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @shalaska989
    @shalaska989 4 года назад +3

    Love your no bullshit approach for giving information in video form!

  • @jackmclane1826
    @jackmclane1826 3 года назад +19

    That cookie sheet was still more valuable than the gold content... ^^

    • @jasongrinnell1986
      @jasongrinnell1986 3 года назад

      Absolutely

    • @blueridgeocean
      @blueridgeocean 3 года назад +3

      The ad revenue is still more valuable than the cookie sheet, fuel costs and gold recovered all together

    • @jackmclane1826
      @jackmclane1826 3 года назад

      @@blueridgeocean Probably... ;)

  • @scavengermining3155
    @scavengermining3155 4 года назад +1

    Love these videos! I no longer have my jaw, but I still keep up with you. Maybe some day.

  • @jamesfenton7338
    @jamesfenton7338 3 года назад +2

    The tailings make great roadway material, fines help hold a road together.
    I would like to get into this at some point, and I will have the best gravel road on earth.

  • @russsherwood5978
    @russsherwood5978 4 года назад

    just subbed and thumbs - up, that sounds like the gold off our beaches that are in the black sands, be strong, be safe, and be blessed

  • @alexnutu1125
    @alexnutu1125 3 года назад

    You got great content your the Real Parker Schnebly man way better than gold rush, cause it’s all genuine!

  • @Druid_Plow
    @Druid_Plow 3 года назад +4

    Well you could have just done .06x38 to get your 2.28 figure, converting both figures up to tons was just extra steps.
    Those patterns as the slag cools is pretty cool to watch.

  • @blackgriffinxx
    @blackgriffinxx 4 года назад +1

    cast iron griddle got a few on sale from Walmart . Was not that good till i took a grinder to them. To smooth them out right. Season it and it work great now.

  • @pick4u2
    @pick4u2 2 года назад +1

    always learn from your vids, rock on brother man

  • @darrenstensland5301
    @darrenstensland5301 4 года назад +2

    Very interesting and instructive video. If the assay said there was enough gold to warrant more processing, would you use a shaker table, or something like what you showed here to extract it?

  • @dalekundtz4603
    @dalekundtz4603 2 года назад

    And keeping the Mrs. happy is what it is all about..lol. stay safe. Stay healthy. Hope 2022 is a great year for you! 🍾🍾🎊🎉

  • @renagillum8439
    @renagillum8439 3 года назад

    Always great stuff love watching

  • @sailingsolar
    @sailingsolar 4 года назад +6

    "Hope you learned something."
    Lol! I learned something, alright. Thanks.

  • @harryniedecken5321
    @harryniedecken5321 3 месяца назад +1

    When you are finished extracting the gold, consider to refine the black sand into artisan quality iron for blacksmith use,

  • @geraldfrank6314
    @geraldfrank6314 2 года назад +1

    Well that proved your recovery methods are doing very well in getting the gold.

  • @shaneyork300
    @shaneyork300 3 года назад

    That probably answers alot of questions!
    Have a Great Day!!

  • @edwardwhynott1139
    @edwardwhynott1139 4 года назад

    Very cool gives me something to do with my sulphides thanks for the great video.

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад

      Glad to help

  • @smith0426
    @smith0426 3 года назад +1

    I haven't tried watching this sober, but this was great, well done and thank you!

    • @Steveorino123
      @Steveorino123 2 года назад +2

      just dont try DOING THIS with a buzz on.😂

  • @jeffcoate1885
    @jeffcoate1885 4 года назад +1

    Jason is a stud! Love all the videos buddy thank you!

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Jeff!

  • @ez1913
    @ez1913 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for explaining some of the science for new viewers.

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @AyouGuysProspectingTM
    @AyouGuysProspectingTM 3 года назад

    That was som awesome information was cool to watch cool down

  • @trevorwhat
    @trevorwhat 4 года назад +11

    The "boo boo" made the video more educational. Thanks for keeping that in. Great stuff, Jason.

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @markselten4985
      @markselten4985 4 года назад +1

      @@mbmmllc I did also notice a lot of (admittedly) small bubbling on your first pour .
      Is that normal? Could the matt be caused by the smelt just needed more time to settle down and complete any reactions before you did pour?
      Thanks Jason for sharing the experience.

  • @scottrose5012
    @scottrose5012 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for sharing that was very educational. Something I don't understand very well is after you have the lead with the gold and silver in it and you heat it up again how are you removing the lead, are you using a bone ash crucible to suck the lead out? Maybe you can explain that a little for all us amateurs, thank you so much for your time in answering this question.

  • @kct9967
    @kct9967 3 года назад +1

    I remember back in the day, miners would also sell their black sand, they wouldn't get much, but it did add to the year end total.

  • @ChatterontheWire
    @ChatterontheWire 4 года назад +11

    everyone always asks "What are you going to do with that?", my response, "What are you, my wife?!?!" My hording is aluminum, brass and copper ingots, but same conversation across the board it looks like!

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +3

      Yep, why don't they just leave us alone??

    • @user-ou8nx6vo7z
      @user-ou8nx6vo7z 4 года назад

      @@mbmmllc subbed for this comment lol

    • @-Nick-T
      @-Nick-T 3 года назад

      i got poor returns on my ingots.

  • @stevewoods8116
    @stevewoods8116 2 года назад +1

    Love your content!

  • @spacecasejlp5373
    @spacecasejlp5373 4 года назад +4

    Cheapest, yet effective forge I've ever seen.

  • @rexhavoc5643
    @rexhavoc5643 2 года назад +1

    Black sand makes great traction grit. And, you can recover it with a magnet and reuse indefinitely.

  • @garydunn9418
    @garydunn9418 3 года назад +1

    Gold leaves the black sand during roasting via aerosol. Yep.Thank you so much for these videos.Its just pure awesome!

    • @dogodogo5891
      @dogodogo5891 4 месяца назад

      tell me more how did you know?

    • @garydunn9418
      @garydunn9418 4 месяца назад

      @@dogodogo5891 I could look up some studies if you like.I looked into various reports.
      In one instance , it was when the miner, tore down the flue or teared down a wall, they would find gold fuse in the material after years.

  • @joel383
    @joel383 4 года назад

    I'm digging all the videos bro!

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад

      Glad you like them!

  • @davidoberle9023
    @davidoberle9023 4 года назад +1

    I make the same noises your son does when i see metal being poured. Something so satisfying about it.

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +1

      Haha, he had a good time, mostly played iPad in the truck though :)

  • @illmsg77
    @illmsg77 3 года назад

    Cool video man!!!

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 4 года назад

    I enjoy your videos. Stay well!

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад

      Thank you so much!

  • @fredflint8399
    @fredflint8399 4 года назад +2

    For the amount of energy and work put into your efforts the profit margin was too low to perform this task often. I did like the video it was very informative. Thank you for your efforts. It was enough for a sub!

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +1

      Thanks, Yes this was just an example, but you can imagine if your black sands have more gold it would be worth it :)

  • @seanmiller678
    @seanmiller678 4 года назад +1

    Cool to see this is in my state!

  • @Monkeylots
    @Monkeylots 3 года назад +1

    Looking at the numbers I got to say that it was not cost effective but a good learning video :)

  • @TomAnderson.
    @TomAnderson. 2 года назад +1

    You can use a grilling plate next time, they are built with the same material as a cooking pan and have same surface as a cookie sheet.

  • @kirbytrooper
    @kirbytrooper 3 года назад

    your theory makes total sense about your collector metal

  • @zacharymerrill8359
    @zacharymerrill8359 2 года назад

    When the metal is cooling you can see the molecular shapes with all those lines that’s awesome

  • @nickb5410
    @nickb5410 4 года назад +4

    Another excellent and informative video. I've learned alot from you. Thank you.
    You might see if your scale weighs in grains and do your math with grains when you have sub-gram inputs... and only if you need to be more precise.
    Well done.

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +4

      Thanks for the tip! I have a super accurate scale on order so check that out in up coming vids

  • @ginadarrenjones1627
    @ginadarrenjones1627 4 года назад

    Great instructional videes, where do you get the larger graphite molds, seems there is nothing but the smaller ones available.

  • @stevewoods8116
    @stevewoods8116 2 года назад +2

    Serious question, the slag metal is worth something to someone right? Cost to much for you to refine though I am sure.

  • @hueyh9773
    @hueyh9773 4 года назад

    Excellent video keep up the good work

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад

      Thanks, will do!

  • @BillMulholland1
    @BillMulholland1 2 года назад

    Your not the only person I fallow on RUclips who’s kids make a cameo appearance. I think it’s great 😄🍻👍

  • @LanceUppercut4U
    @LanceUppercut4U 3 года назад +1

    I suspect someone has already suggested amongst all the other comments but, I would use an old cast iron barbecue plate instead of the cookie tray for any future trials. Large surface area and as durable as a pan.

  • @dattabhamburdekar884
    @dattabhamburdekar884 3 года назад

    Ur experiment very good bro....
    Because remening dust is also valuable.....

  • @robertbotello1817
    @robertbotello1817 4 года назад +1

    GOOD INFORMATION

  • @elenidemos
    @elenidemos 4 года назад +2

    Have you thought of using a black iron wok instead of the cookie tray or cast iron pan. You can move the "sand" by flicking it, kind of like stir frying & woks (black iron) tend to handle heat better then cookie trays.

  • @Pankajjoshi-sm6wj
    @Pankajjoshi-sm6wj 2 года назад

    Really a good job

  • @joel5372
    @joel5372 4 года назад

    :) , i see many ur vid now about melting the semi cons... i think u really enjoy it now...

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад

      Yes, its fun

  • @gtzkrxkxktxlhcxlclhbhckckf5230
    @gtzkrxkxktxlhcxlclhbhckckf5230 2 года назад

    I love this video BTW you are my hero

  • @davidskaar3232
    @davidskaar3232 2 года назад

    Interesting process

  • @HolzMichel
    @HolzMichel 4 года назад +2

    after roasting, those cons would have been a good run for some aqua-regia...grind them down to 1000 mesh and soak em and then you know for sure what you got.

  • @binaryblade2
    @binaryblade2 2 года назад

    I like how it spontaneously forms veins.

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis 2 года назад +1

    Do you run your slack to through a ball mill and use it again?
    Also what happens to the used cupel? Is there a recycling path for them to get back the lead?

  • @neenoonoo2564
    @neenoonoo2564 2 года назад

    Good job 👍🏼

  • @chriscarley9951
    @chriscarley9951 3 года назад +1

    How do you feel about mixing lead shot in through the whole charge distributed evenly?

  • @bukeksiansu1691
    @bukeksiansu1691 2 года назад

    Mr instruktur... Bravo.

  • @BeinBerean
    @BeinBerean 3 года назад +2

    7:27 ... "*GASP* It's ... it's EWUPTING!!!"
    That's awesome, cute kid! Thank you for the info Mt. Baker!

  • @slakgnat
    @slakgnat 4 года назад

    nice explinations :)

  • @rastamanralph6670
    @rastamanralph6670 4 года назад +1

    Cheers.it's very interesting.I've been getting a devil forge and I'm going to be smelting soon.I've subscribed👍😉

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +2

      Awesome, thank you!

    • @StevenHanover
      @StevenHanover 3 года назад +2

      What's a devil forge?

    • @rastamanralph6670
      @rastamanralph6670 3 года назад +2

      @@StevenHanover It's a propane powered forge made by devil forge and are one of or not the best small forge money can buy. Big stackd channel uses them and that's where I got the idea from.

    • @StevenHanover
      @StevenHanover 3 года назад +1

      @@rastamanralph6670 how many monies do we save up for one of them, like ebay, amazon, home depot can buy tools to make one? Simple handle cement kiln is 74 bucks on ebay right now. What is a general amount of black sands and flux for appropriate sized graphite crucible when utilizing oxygen propane blue flame? Will trace stackd channel suggested thx!
      It's the blue harvest moon soon...

    • @rastamanralph6670
      @rastamanralph6670 3 года назад +2

      @@StevenHanover I paid £188 for mine on eBay and it includes the forge,the gas burner and the regulator. When you get it you have to mix the bag of clay dust with water and paint it on the insulation then dry it and your good to go. It was the medium size one I got to fit a 3 kg crucible in but don't know about the flux because I just got it for smelting beer cans.

  • @alyxiastarling7990
    @alyxiastarling7990 4 года назад +4

    natural magnetite is actually a steel. A steel/gold alloy probably has to get hotter to drop out the gold into the collector metal than you got it. Have you ever shot the slag with the XRF?

    • @dogodogo5891
      @dogodogo5891 3 года назад

      so basically AuFe304 or Fe3AuO4 lol that's very strange but very interesting! do you got any references i would like to learn more, thanks!

  • @maxkeese7102
    @maxkeese7102 3 года назад

    Seems totally worth it

  • @ghostindamachine
    @ghostindamachine 4 года назад

    Super interesting!

  • @tadvanallen
    @tadvanallen 4 года назад +1

    Your Shaker Table works to good!

  • @therrienmichael08
    @therrienmichael08 4 года назад

    I've always wanted to see something like this.

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @joshuamoses1370
    @joshuamoses1370 3 года назад

    Hi from Kansas from Joshua Moses love your videos

  • @chimezieukonu3371
    @chimezieukonu3371 Год назад

    Please the black sand you are talking about, is it the same black sand use in moulding pots?

  • @TheElectronicDilettante
    @TheElectronicDilettante Год назад +1

    Is there any way to put the settling jig in a centrifuge? Although , spinning molten metal at high speeds sounds super problematic and dangerous, it would probably speed up the separation process and yield more PM.

  • @ursamines7643
    @ursamines7643 4 года назад

    Great video!

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @rickydona919
    @rickydona919 3 года назад

    could treating the black sand with nitric acid to dissolve any silver and then dissolving the remaining material in aqua regia be easier then smelting it?

  • @ambersmith6517
    @ambersmith6517 2 года назад

    I have around 100 gen 3 4 and 5 I5 dell lap tops i can take all the boards out of them if you wanted to do recycle them they all are working but have cracked screens and stuff

  • @sadnessinside123
    @sadnessinside123 4 года назад +2

    Great video. Learned a lot. Really appreciate the hard work put into your videos. Thank you.

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @ricklewis429
    @ricklewis429 4 года назад +1

    Do you have the ceramic wool in your furnace rigidized ? or coated with a satinite ?

  • @aaronstewart3570
    @aaronstewart3570 2 года назад

    My heavy concentrate is gold/yellow with a slight orange hue. Do you want a Kg and see how much gold is in it? I have about 8 x 3 lt bottles full of the concentrate now.

  • @TRGFBC
    @TRGFBC 3 года назад

    Was thinking. The blob of iron at the bottom but them mix iron shavings in with the material being smelted. Let it do the same thing you were saying move around on the current with the precious metal as both melts then fall and mix with the blob at the bottom.

  • @narhbichanischronicles.521
    @narhbichanischronicles.521 3 года назад

    Do u have a video for extracting rhodium attached to magnetites? I have a huge deposit of magnetites with traces of platinum family metals and rhodium.

  • @gennara9984
    @gennara9984 3 года назад

    Good job

  • @frisbeephil
    @frisbeephil 3 года назад

    What brand is your thermometer? Where did you buy it and for how much? What is max temp? Thanks

  • @micregil
    @micregil 4 года назад +1

    I read something years ago about converting the sulphides into chlorides, and being able to get more gold from your black sands, have you ever heard anything about that? It's been a long time since I read that so I don't remember the details.

  • @jimbishop4714
    @jimbishop4714 3 года назад

    One one of the GPAA videos a man was giving his processed black sand to a neighbor who wanted it to add iron to her rose garden.

  • @troyrice266
    @troyrice266 4 года назад +5

    You could substitute the aluminum cookie sheet for a cast iron griddle

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  4 года назад +1

      Good idea, thx