Mastering Gold Smelting: Techniques for Extracting Precious Metals from Sulfides

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  • Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
  • Description: Join Jason in this informative video as he delves into the world of gold smelting experiments. Learn about the importance of flux components, collector metals, and smelting techniques to improve gold and silver recovery. See firsthand how small adjustments in the smelting process can make a big difference in the final result.
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    00:00 Introduction
    00:09 Preparing The Sample
    03:01 Flux Recipe
    14:08 Smelting The Gold
    16:23 Collector Metal
    18:47 Smelting Results
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Комментарии • 243

  • @alanmoffat4680
    @alanmoffat4680 Год назад +91

    As a Research Industrial Chemist and an Analytical Chemist, now retired, I enjoyed this experimental exercise and the chemistry involved. Such an ancient technique is now explained by modern science.

    • @chuxmix65
      @chuxmix65 Год назад +9

      Would you do anything differently?
      What controls or standards would you suggest to our host to help him?
      I'd bet he'd appreciate your input.

    • @billwarren3392
      @billwarren3392 Год назад

      CT

    • @DesertTuna
      @DesertTuna Год назад +2

      ​@@chuxmix65 I would say love watching ya try an I don't know much of gold soup recepes I like it to become more pure when I waste time touching it don't play with fire unless ya melting a pure 24k button or bullions it's chemicals and physical action to re separate not so much heat like a pyro peroxide pan it shaker table if ya have one!!! acid work if needed after rf test or visual physical test heated or not ya gotta have a fume hood or do it outside with a mask on ,⚖️

  • @rooftopv4664
    @rooftopv4664 Год назад +35

    Your channel is honestly one of my favorite channels. I really hope you can pump out more videos where we get to see the whole process, from mining to crushing to gold button. :)

  • @dewardtaylor4192
    @dewardtaylor4192 Год назад +18

    Great video Jason, thanks for your time. I love to learn and you do such a great job at teaching us.

  • @markelliott3710
    @markelliott3710 Год назад +2

    Well laid out synopsis Jason

  • @KD0CAC
    @KD0CAC Год назад +1

    The only thing that could have made it a better video ---- is seeing gold & silver ;)
    One of your best detailed videos .
    Thanks again

  • @StirlingLighthouse
    @StirlingLighthouse Год назад +10

    Listen Jason,
    I’m not gonna lye.
    Maybe it’s none of my bismuth, but I think it’s way easier getting my smelts from the creek with a net. I find I sulphur a lot less. 😂

  • @alifalafel4831
    @alifalafel4831 Год назад +4

    The way you explain your process while showing us, without all of the extra non-useful time, is awesome! Keep up the great videos! If you get even more serious with these experiments, it might be good to run each one (with no variation) multiple times to account for random variance.

  • @LizardPuke3897
    @LizardPuke3897 Год назад +5

    Thank you for your videos Jason! They are so helpful and I feel more prepared each video you put out for my own smelts.

  • @MrGeorge514131
    @MrGeorge514131 Год назад +2

    Many thanks Jason, can’t begin to describe how much I have learnt from your presentations, really love your work

  • @BubblewrapHighway
    @BubblewrapHighway Год назад +1

    Good start to my weekend! Getting more fascinated by precious metals every day, can't wait to get started.

  • @argonaut4139
    @argonaut4139 Год назад

    Well presented, comprehensive, and actionable for your viewers. Outstanding from beginning to end, Thank you!

  • @luisarias8077
    @luisarias8077 Год назад

    Thank you for sharing your experiments, I'm sure all of us appreciate that.
    To help others.
    Not all people is like that.
    You're a good person.

  • @driverjamescopeland
    @driverjamescopeland Год назад +1

    15:18 "helps the charge not stick to the mold" (WD-40)
    Two suggestions for alternatives:
    1- if you prefer the convenience of an aerosol... the are several dry lubricants available in an aerosol can, that will perform much better in your application. Graphite, molybdenum disulfide, and tungsten disulfide are all readily available through most industrial and scientific supply companies. If you prefer a liquid that will serve many other uses around the shop... P.B. Blaster has a much higher flash point than WD-40, and tends to penetrate better into rusty surfaces.
    2- graphite powder is usually the cheapest of the aforementioned dry lubricants, and is available in a near-nano particle size, often referred to as "polishing powder"/"burnishing powder". When you have a couple hours... use a wire brush to knock the scale off, then polish them graphite. The treatment will last for several uses.

  • @markg3025
    @markg3025 Год назад +2

    Thank you for the amazing chemistry lesson. I am glad to see you use the appropriate PPE.

  • @l.mcmanus3983
    @l.mcmanus3983 Год назад +28

    Do you keep a shop notebook where you record the things you do every day? Especially experiments like this where you will want to know the results. I worked in a research lab while I was at university, and as much as I hated the effort it took to take good notes, it was incredibly helpful to be able to go back and easily reference previous protocols and results.
    I am happy to hear your decision to stop using lead, but part of me wanted you to do at least one mix with lead as a collector metal for comparison. I am curious what the difference was with the one bismuth button you got that was not so crystalline. Definitely seems like it mixed with something. I also wonder if there might be some other metal you could mix in a small amount with the bismuth to disrupt the formation of the crystalline structure and make it easier to free from the slag.
    You are getting much more rigorous with you scientific methodology. It is very enjoyable to see! Keep up the good work and I look forward to part 2!

    • @randallsmerna384
      @randallsmerna384 Год назад +5

      He's literally got a video diary of everything he does...

    • @TechGorilla1987
      @TechGorilla1987 Год назад +2

      @@randallsmerna384 The scientific method always involves a notebook. It's far easier to turn a page than to find a precise moment in a video. You make a fine point, but notes always reign supreme.

    • @l.mcmanus3983
      @l.mcmanus3983 Год назад +2

      @@randallsmerna384 I agree he does a great job of documenting his methods, however as Tech Gorilla pointed out, watching a video to figure out a flux recipe would be time consuming and inefficient. Hence why I think writing this all down in a notebook would be helpful.

    • @james_wasson
      @james_wasson Год назад

      It's also going to be dependent on the site as each site will have different mineral composition. Although it'd be interesting to see some notes comparing different methods from the same site.

  • @BCzepa
    @BCzepa Год назад +2

    really good jason, i cant wait to see the lab results. thanks for testing all these different ratios, appreciate your knowledge

  • @Stand.Your.Ground.
    @Stand.Your.Ground. Год назад

    Thanks Jason! Always so happy to hear your voice! ❤

  • @anthonygrey321
    @anthonygrey321 Год назад

    The slag in the cone mold when it's cooling off...so cool,

  • @pauljconroysr4080
    @pauljconroysr4080 Год назад

    Jason > as always a great video and very informative and show how simple but complex chemistry can be at times .:) and nice on how you shown the break down of how you did everything and the results from that . i learnt a lot from this video and you in general , again both I and the rest of the RUclips universe out here thank you for all you time,energy, and effort you put into all of this . trust me you are more then appreciated for this .

  • @Drachenfang
    @Drachenfang Год назад

    I'm really enjoying both this video and your channel. I love the pyrochemistry and seeing the results of your smelts.

  • @oltroutjunkman3471
    @oltroutjunkman3471 Год назад +1

    Great video, excellent lesson in smelting. Now the waiting game to see the results.

  • @highbridgepottery8251
    @highbridgepottery8251 Год назад +5

    Really enjoying the flux experiments as they are pretty much pottery glazes just with a lot more Na2O and no Al2O3.

    • @-r-495
      @-r-495 Год назад +1

      You’re right, they are similar.
      When Jason was standing in front of the rack with the crucibles (last few seconds) my wife looked over and said „nice plant pots“.
      I guess I can go get some „plant pots“ and then „glaze them“ 😉

  • @flyinpolack6633
    @flyinpolack6633 Год назад

    great video Jason. It's really interesting how much things change with small adjustments

  • @inqwit1
    @inqwit1 Год назад

    Love it. Exactly the kind of things we would be doing if we were set up for and into smelting. Thank you.

  • @VendettaProspecting
    @VendettaProspecting Год назад +3

    Fun stuff Jason!

  • @Rennrogue
    @Rennrogue Год назад

    Thank you so much for going through the details so clearly! I was unlucky enough to have horrible chemistry teachers in both High School and University, so I extra appreciate clear explanations that, kudos to you, make it easy to understand!! I look forward to each notification that you have a new video out!

  • @bartonthom4166
    @bartonthom4166 Год назад +1

    This is a wonderful lesson in smelting!

  • @patrickc.allenlive4373
    @patrickc.allenlive4373 Год назад +2

    Good smelting show. I liked the flux discussion.

  • @tonybarnes5309
    @tonybarnes5309 Год назад

    Jason, what you're doing is really cool and interesting. Keep it up great information

  • @OwlTech333
    @OwlTech333 Год назад

    Very informative! Thanks Jason!

  • @bikerdillagaf1265
    @bikerdillagaf1265 Год назад

    You have been awesome teaching those of us struggling to feed our familes

  • @markbrown6236
    @markbrown6236 Год назад

    Lot of technical info presented in an understandable way. I'm no science major, but was able to follow you just fine.
    Love the use of cardboard to record data, it's what you do in a shop environment. In for part 2.

  • @jeffholmes1362
    @jeffholmes1362 Год назад

    Great experiment, look forward to the results. Thanks for sharing

  • @p8erp
    @p8erp Год назад +2

    I really enjoy your videos...thanks for sharing

  • @josephpecoul6532
    @josephpecoul6532 Год назад

    Can't wait to see what the results are thanks for the very interesting video Jayson

  • @bretrath6073
    @bretrath6073 Год назад

    Great share Jason. I look forward to more classes from you! Thanks

  • @rockman531
    @rockman531 Год назад

    Hey Jason, Teacher...teacher...pick me! Fantastic amount of great information! I'll watch this video again and take notes! Really appreciate all your time & effort to educate us! THANK YOU!! Jim

  • @RyanMartin-wg7gm
    @RyanMartin-wg7gm Месяц назад

    Right on Jason thanks for the class see ya next time ⏲️

  • @wrxs1781
    @wrxs1781 Год назад

    Good video, more chemistry involved than one would think.

  • @silvaorgold
    @silvaorgold Год назад

    Jason you. Are my favorite teacher love the class and can not wait for part 2

  • @nunyabisnass1141
    @nunyabisnass1141 Год назад +1

    I remember when balancing chemical equasions, it became so much easier to just treat each elwment as a number, and treat it as basic algebra. How they taught us how to do it was to multiply this by 6.022, then divide by its quanitiy, then cross multiply....so many unnecessary and complicated steps. If you already knew your reagents, and knew what the most likely reactions were, then all you had to do was figure out how much of A gets you to the desired amount of B. Now i suck at math, but so many kids got hung up on following the provided instructions that they didnt figure out what they wete actually trying to do, and thats solve for X.
    Thats partially why i like how you explain thingsm its the least complicated and very efficient that makes me feel like i could do it.

  • @stevensnyder5332
    @stevensnyder5332 Год назад +1

    Jason, I am glad to see that you are not using the channel lock pliers anymore to pore.

  • @Ethan-xm4fv
    @Ethan-xm4fv Год назад

    Just what I needed. I was wondering about boil overs. You answered my question. Thanks

  • @chuxmix65
    @chuxmix65 Год назад

    Imagine doing this experiment with ounces rather than grams back in the day!
    Exciting!
    A non renewable resource.
    I'm a fan of small scale mining andI will always support small scale farming.

  • @jeffashton3352
    @jeffashton3352 Год назад

    Great video Jason. Thank you! A request and a suggestion: First the Request - build a chute from the jaw crusher into the 5 gallon bucket. Next the Suggestion - develop a line of small scale/ sample flail mills. I may have the request and suggestion backwards.

  • @josephcormier5974
    @josephcormier5974 Год назад

    Thank you Jason this was very informative and interesting keep up the great work six stars brother

  • @crohkorthreetoes3821
    @crohkorthreetoes3821 Год назад

    Pretty cool man, working out your sulfide smelting dope chart. Thanks for sharing the info.

  • @davidlove456
    @davidlove456 Год назад

    Great video, thanks for doing experiments and sharing.

  • @jasonhowarth6789
    @jasonhowarth6789 Год назад +4

    It also works well to pick up one end of the cardboard/tarp and roll the material over itself forwards and back and side to side.

    • @scottwall8419
      @scottwall8419 Год назад +1

      Good tip, I use that to mix old and new bark landscaping, hadn't thought to apply this to it. Great idea!

  • @chuxmix65
    @chuxmix65 Год назад

    Jason, keep doing science and keep taking notes!

  • @danielcoulthardjr6608
    @danielcoulthardjr6608 Год назад

    Thanks for the lesson, professor!

  • @justindorado8152
    @justindorado8152 Год назад

    jason keep makeing the great videos they are very informational

  • @TheGoldmansChannel
    @TheGoldmansChannel Год назад

    Looking forward to part 2! Thanks Jason.

  • @granthaney2570
    @granthaney2570 Год назад

    kinda had to do this your all over some good some not so hope it give you and us a direction to the better mix or design thaNKS FOR TAKEING US ALONG

  • @TrickyDickyP
    @TrickyDickyP Год назад +1

    Nice one Jason, good video mate..
    For separating the bismuth button from the slag, try heating it with a propane torch into water, this should release all of it from the slag. All the best

  • @argonaut4139
    @argonaut4139 Год назад +1

    You nailed it with this video. 👍

  • @PogueMahone1
    @PogueMahone1 Год назад +4

    Ferric (iron 3+) sulphide is Fe2S3, not FeS2.

  • @TIPPYtoeup
    @TIPPYtoeup Год назад

    You’re awesome Jason. Thanks for these. I hope they payoff for you as well as they payoff for us 👍

  • @daman2u4eva
    @daman2u4eva Год назад

    keep it up Jas very Good stuff

  • @mrwutchamacalit
    @mrwutchamacalit Год назад +3

    this was great i want more like this please show us more about all the process i love watching about gold but would also love to see more about smelting other ores and collecting them as well loved the gem mining you did with Dan

  • @henrymuzgay1023
    @henrymuzgay1023 Год назад

    thank you love what you do helps me out a lot great videos

  • @ninefingermining8694
    @ninefingermining8694 Год назад

    Awesome video lots of great information 👍🏻

  • @nollynnkomo1819
    @nollynnkomo1819 Год назад

    Injoying this so much

  • @BangTheRocksTogether
    @BangTheRocksTogether 5 месяцев назад

    Jason, it would be easier for us to find Part 2 if you would title this video Part 1. RUclips is poorly organized and not that easy to search. Thanks.
    I really enjoy your channel.

  • @nrh7ten892
    @nrh7ten892 Год назад

    hard work pays off👋

  • @johnviinalass3865
    @johnviinalass3865 Год назад

    ...good show, be well good team...

  • @parkerottoackley6325
    @parkerottoackley6325 Год назад +1

    👍👍 Great video. Thank you Sir

  • @jamesbell8529
    @jamesbell8529 Год назад

    Luv it, good Job !

  • @robertwall713
    @robertwall713 Год назад +1

    Thanks again for the lesson of flux development and the different properties of the components, yeah I should of took chemistry in high school but this learning on the fly is fun.....if I don't kill myself in the process!
    Thanks again,

  • @quantumbitz3473
    @quantumbitz3473 Год назад

    You old alchemist you! Excellent webcast.

  • @timothyodonnell8591
    @timothyodonnell8591 Год назад

    Looking forward to part 2.

  • @ehrenkrause9861
    @ehrenkrause9861 Год назад

    Thanks again, making it easy for a amateurs

  • @123bbbooobbb
    @123bbbooobbb Год назад

    Can’t wait thx jason I had no idea now maybe a bit more 😝 thx for the lesson 👍

  • @-r-495
    @-r-495 Год назад

    Very interesting, thank you!
    Just a side note: Now and again a little bubbling is desirable as it can help mixing a reaction mixture.

  • @panteleydotsu455
    @panteleydotsu455 Год назад +1

    Джейсон благодарность тебе за твоё желание делиться своими знаниями и не легким но благодарным трудом

  • @trevorwhat
    @trevorwhat Год назад +2

    Thanks, Jason.

    • @mbmmllc
      @mbmmllc  Год назад +1

      Hey Trevor! Thanks for the super thanks! It really helps me out with the videos. Thanks for watching and subbing!

  • @rexhaney9806
    @rexhaney9806 Год назад

    I like watching that program up on my Discovery plus about gold mining ⛏️ I'll never get enough of I do a little painting down there in the gravel and creeks and rivers been to the water there cuz it's cold settles in the bin of a creek or river I really like it because I really touches my heart when I see guys up on Discovery doing what they truly love

  • @Rob337_aka_CancelProof
    @Rob337_aka_CancelProof Год назад

    I love those convection patterns on the top of the Molten metal

  • @DjSubia
    @DjSubia Год назад

    great vid bud!

  • @umumazuhur8734
    @umumazuhur8734 Год назад

    Thanks bro good video

  • @hattricksprospecting1769
    @hattricksprospecting1769 Год назад

    Well after a long time trying to figure out what Jason was saying about things being Basic. I finally figured it out today. Basic is part of a short list of non numerical verbal PH descriptions. Basic is PH 11. Alkaline is 14, Neutral 7, slightly acidic 3 to 4, and acidic 1. But there is something about PH numbers can't explain, and that is "very acidic in excess". That was super confusing figuring out.
    Well that one big first step graduating Camp PH.

  • @richardbillin5190
    @richardbillin5190 Год назад +1

    I am so glad their wasn’t a “Test” and the end of Lesson 101

  • @3tonedThinker
    @3tonedThinker Год назад

    Btw I love all your video Jason,

  • @mattrichards1492
    @mattrichards1492 Год назад

    I wish I could be like Jason.

  • @scottwolf1238
    @scottwolf1238 Год назад +3

    Hello Jason! I love your videos and greatly appreciate how you try to help others. I was wondering what assay lab you use and do they want the sample ground down, or can you send them chunks? Is there a difference in cost if they accept either?

  • @azinfidel6461
    @azinfidel6461 Год назад

    I like the lab type format considering how many samples you did.

  • @jimmierturner3597
    @jimmierturner3597 Год назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @dionh70
    @dionh70 Год назад

    Jason, we're all proud that you finally got the lead out. lol

  • @jamesbell8529
    @jamesbell8529 8 месяцев назад

    TKX Jason

  • @dawsonite80
    @dawsonite80 11 месяцев назад

    great pyromet testworks there

  • @SavageCouture
    @SavageCouture Год назад

    Awesomeness

  • @alexkaring
    @alexkaring Год назад

    Awesome lesson Jason! Could you give us some resources as to where to buy some of the essentials such as the crucibles, borax, etc. Thank you.

  • @lucdaigle2394
    @lucdaigle2394 Год назад

    I like your traditional fire assay methodology, it is much the same as assaying was conducted >100 years ago (not trying to disparage what you're doing). This just shows you can determine precious metal content using straight forward methodology and easily available equipment and materials. These days in the minerals industry we are spoiled by modern analytical methods, we can in the laboratory analyse hundreds of samples per day and get incredibly accurate results reported in the parts per billion. Neutron activation (inaa), mass spectrometry icp/ms, X-ray diffraction and lately hand held portable x-ray analysis. Some labs us e silver as the collector metal, not toxic but expensive, most labs use lead. Most labs offer fire assay for gold, you can shop around for a range of methodologies to analyse for gold, and then when you start assaying samples with coarse gold the whole thing goes out the window.

  • @robwilliams287
    @robwilliams287 Год назад

    really wild!

  • @dubcindub15
    @dubcindub15 Год назад

    Great video Jason, I always prefer the smelting ones with the %age recovery at the end, but going through the explanation of your flux ingredients is great to watch and learn. Otherwise you forgot the other name most people know NaOH/Sodium hydroxide as....Caustic Soda! The same Caustic Soda you use to unblock the toilet when you've gone overboard at Taco Bell and used too much toilet paper the next day🥵😳🤬💩

  • @chuckerickson6721
    @chuckerickson6721 Год назад

    Jason great picture quality, better lighting or new camera?

  • @alexejovicmueller2978
    @alexejovicmueller2978 Год назад +1

    If chemistry classes in school would have been THAT interesting and useful, I'd never have ended up with a negative grade 😅

  • @nerriahlewis2294
    @nerriahlewis2294 Год назад

    Have you made a part 2 to this yet?

  • @jeffanderson2956
    @jeffanderson2956 5 месяцев назад

    Hello from Vancouver island! Love the videos! I am going to build a cone mold, what thickness steel do you use and approx what size is the mold ? Looking like about 6” triangles?
    Thanks!!

  • @orsud1890
    @orsud1890 Год назад

    Salut mon ami, magnifique ✨✨👌