Very nice change from your normal videos.. your wife seems very nice. As they are called a "suite", is there enough privacy to join the mile high club?
Great video, I agree, I always pay for the executive lounges. Virgin have an excellent lounge at Heathrow where they have small rooms isolated with glass and long couches, very quiet and great place to get some rest between flights. Another excellent executive lounge was in Manchester (UK) British Airways. Agree, drinking any alcohol before or during a flight is a bad idea.
It's absolutely fantastic to see the real Petter outside of the cockpit for once and indulging in business class. As much as we all get carried away into first class airline review videos, it's rare to see such an honest vlog that really speaks to the average person for a once in a lifetime trip. Congratulations on your first long haul business class travel, and thank you for being so authentic :)
As a QATAR AIRWAYS B777 Captain, very happy you enjoyed your trip with us. Get your staff travel department working on a reciprocal travel agreement for next time.
Unfortunately, that travel agreement will be unlikely. Mentour won't mention it for ethical reasons, but we all know he flies for Ryanair. Enough said.
When you said you did not want to show Qatar Airways enployees since you didn’t have permissions, made me think of all the “travel by air” videos where you see lots of attendants in lots of airplanes, from which, I’m guessing, they didn’t ask for permission, and how, from you, it shows again, the respect you have for everyone working in aviation, actually I’m sure the respect you must have for people in general. Speaks loudly about your philosophy.
He said he did not want to film without permission. He did not say that he had asked and not been given permission. That is a different ball park. Jesus! Just kidding...
My wife and I were ruined for long air travel a few years ago when we traveled to Europe for a river cruise. On the return flight, we had been booked in economy plus which had been oversold so we had been upgraded to business class. My wife has some mobility problem so she uses a wheel chair. When we arrived on the flight from Brussels to Heathrow the wheel chair pusher pushed her to the World Club instead of the normal wheel chair area. It was then we realized it was in a different world! It is so very worth it, especially if you are a little older.
I know, right? My first business class experience was due to an intercontinental business trip where we had to fly on business class according to company policy...since then just the thought of long haul flights on economy makes me want to womit :D...ruined for life
Your excellent advice about not feeling rushed is really important. I incorporate this into everyday life. Even just going to work, I leave early and don't stress about traffic. My life is so much more enjoyable now.
Meanwhile back when I flew out of Adelaide airport in 2006, their immigration hall opens only 1.5h before departure. So with my family reaching the airport 2h bef a flight departs, that hall was still shuttered with movable partitions that directed us straight to the gates instead (but airport staff would soon ask us to wait for that hall to open 1st)
I don't know if its just me, but I've spent the entire VLOG (well done on that, keep going) waiting for several key moments: - "That's worth remembering for later" - Explanation that "The passenger is a XX year old male with a long history in aviation. His significant other has been with him before and they both reported being well rested during the flight" - The inevitable catastrophe. - The "What did we learn" part In all seriousness, amazing point of view. A refreshing change from the channel's normal story mode. Be safe and well!
I really enjoyed your perspective on the trip (at least the flying aspect of it). I think it's good to keep the airlines honest in their policies and there is no sway either way considering they did not pay you or offer you free flights for this review. Great job, I'd like to see this again if you get another vacation!!
Now this is a real vlog. Unbiased, pointing out the genuine positives and negatives. And not groveling to any airline stakeholders, which we have unfortunately come to always expect from the sponsored creators.
Yes please do more of these videos, I watch Noel Phillips and Josh Cahill doing similar BUT with your perspective and experience it’s definitely different in a unique way. Keep them coming. 👍
Proudly flew as a B 777 Skipper for Qatar Airways . They took care of every airplane as if it was a Classic Car . Shinny - Clean - Spotless ! Never a Serious Maintenance issue ; and the Latest Technology on your Flight Deck. Kindest Regards Giancarlo Garlaschi Podesta
Working for Al Baker is a nightmare through and through. Of course they treated every airplane like a car when they have slave labor from Bangladesh and India. Greetings from a former colleague that can't wait to see Akbar disappear from the face of the planet.
I loved this one. I’ve watched so many of your crash investigation videos. And they are without a doubt exceptional in detail, clarity and your objective perspective. This video we got to see a different side of you, sill exceptional in detail and clarity but playful! Loved seeing that. Thank you for sharing!
Your just a great great human, I can tell , I’ve just recently found your channels and as an old hobby pilot, I’ve binged 15 videos in a week. Great job great channel great content, your attitude, demeanor and dedication to your fellow man is just a breath of fresh air. Thankyou for what you do. Clay Vancouver canada
Those seats in the 787-9 aren't Q-Suites, they are Adient Ascent based seats. In the Q-Suites you don't sit at an angle. Qatar also do have first class on a few of their 777s.
2:17 Thank you for taking the extra care to do this. There is a You tuber that does travel videos that likes to fix a camera on the cabin ceiling. It captures any passengers they are next to and people in the allie waking past. It must be very weird for other passages.
WOW! What a nice surprise. I had never envisaged you in the role of an flight reviewer BUT it really, REALLY works, better still that you're a Boeing 737 pilot. It gives the review a totally new angle! It is absolutely BRILLIANT! I hope that this wasn't just a one-off? Well done mate, I loved it!
I flew Qatar 2 years ago on my way to Japan when due to Coronavirus the country was closed to foreigners and tickets were almost free. Very professional and friendly crew, I totally recommend them but their prices are on the expensive side now.
I can't tell you enjoyable this was, and such a welcome contrast from most of your videos, which typically involve some sort of incident or mishap up to and including some with tragically dire outcomes. This was quite refreshing that way, so good to see you relaxed and enjoying what appears to be a delightful journey. You must do more of these, it was truly charming.
As others have said, this is a very open and honest vlog, and when I finally treat myself to a well-deserved vacation, I do believe that as you showed us Business class is definitely worth the extra that it does cost. And you were probably best suited to present us with all that you have available when picking to travel in this fashion. And it was nice meeting Your wife and partner in Life . My Son is taking a vacation in a few months and will be traveling from Arizona to Thailand and he is doing it in business class also. Once again thanks for letting us travel along.
at the right price business class is undoubtedly worth it. It makes the whole travel part of a long haul trip an experience worth having rather than an ordeal you survive so you can get to and from your holiday/work destination! Prices should start to come back down to more sensible levels now that the airline industry has got back into gear and the number of flights match the number of passengers wanting to fly better.
You know its really nice to see you in the setting of being a passenger and it also makes for a less serious side of aviation commentary. Not to mention after the hard work of your own job and the more serious videos in terms of analysing disasters, its a nice insight to see you in a more jovial situation lots of smiles and laughs, can see how much you enjoyed this and your wife. This all came across in the video as well i think certainly had me smiling throughout, i look forward to seeing many more clips like this one along with the usual content on the other channel
I had the pleasure to once travel business class on a business trip paid by my employer over the Atlantic. The difference to economy class where you're being treated like dead freight that needs to be occassionally moisterized is an eye-opening experience.
I'm truly shocked that this is your first business class trip! Thanks for sharing your experience. Where else can you be pampered so well and be served meals with a blanket and pillows and watch a movie all the while experiencing the joy of travel? My first biz class trip was ord-gru. I'll never forget that first experience and my ability to travel in economy on long haul was completely destroyed 😂
I fly quite a lot in business class long-haul, in the past year a lot on Qatar Airways. Access to lounges can be a game changer (can be because lounges in some parts of the world can be overcrowded), for sure the lounges in Doha. The Business class lounge is amazing, but the First Class lounge is next level - fine dining, jacuzzi, spa etc. Flights in business - definitely a game changer with lie flat beds, food (especially with the possibility to order on demand like in Qatar Airways), more privacy and other amenities. It is a completely different way of travelling. No doubt.
Even if you're flying economy, lounge access can help just for access to showers during a layover on a long trip. In 2015, I found a place in Narita (Tokyo) where I could take a shower, with no lounge access required, and they also had little nap-compartments. In 2018 in Hong Kong, I had to get lounge access to get a shower, and it ended up costing about $75, but I still thought it was worth it. -- Unrelated, one really nice thing about the 787 is the humidification of the cabin air. It makes a big difference for long-flight comfort.
It's so nice to see you and your wife together! It makes such a difference to see that the content creators we love are real people with real lives! Not sure whether we need any more flight reviews from passenger standpoint as that means you're going to have to fork out for flying rather than being paid as usual!! ;-)
I'm glad to hear that Sandra and you had a great vacation in Thailand! Yes, Qatar's business class is really awesome. On one occasion, I was offered an upgrade from economy to business for a reasonable price. It was worth every cent. I'm one of those who cannot speed while sitting in a confined space. But on a flat bed, I was able to sleep for several hours and arrived my destination well rested.
I always arrive at airports 4 hours before flights even on short-haul trips and even when flying coach, with good reason - there’s plenty of stuff to do inside the terminal (including things like have lunch) in most cases. Will never forget how much fun it was to have food delivered to the terminal at LAX waiting for my flight to Boise to depart back in April 2022. It’s also a fantastic plane-watching experience - most American aircraft terminals have fantastic views of the taxiways, runways, and the apron.
I'm surprised you were able to get delivery in the terminal. I don't think delivery guys would be allowed to take things airside in Europe. How did that work?
I enjoy watching the planes, too. The dark windows and heavy soundproofing make it much more pleasant than if you were out in the sun and the noise, and I even saw a C-5 come in and land, at a non-military airport, don't know why it was there.
Well, it depends how often you are flying... for 10 years I flew Manchester to Amsterdam every week, going on Mondays and back on Fridays... at the end I had the whole journey worked out to the minute treating the airport like an oversized bus station going straight from entrance to departure gate, at that point it's more about optimising your time than any kind of fun at the airport!... and yes I know I had a huge carbon footprint at the time so now I'm redeeming my carbon-emission sins of past by cycling to work 😀!
Hey! Just wanted to correct some information given in this video! So the suite you guys sat in in the B787 is not actually Qsuite but a newer slightly different but smaller version of it introduced only on the 787 as the cabin wasn't wide enough to accommodate Qsuite. It's called the Adient Ascent Suite. Qsuite is only available on all A350-1s and select A350-9s and B777s and is the seat you flew on during your second leg. Secondly, Qatar Airways does offer first class on select B777 to destinations like Istanbul for example but unlike first class on the A380, those B777 first class seats are not authentic Qatar Airways seats as their respective aircrafts are loaned aircrafts to Qatar Airways from Cathay Pacific during a time of aircraft shortage. The service remains the same regardless. Happy to clear that up :)
I am a tall guy and a normal seat is painful to me after a while, not enough leg room, but there are some extra seats with extra leg-room which are perfect, they are still cheap and more than enough for me. Those business class seats look great though
My husband is a big tall guy. We travel in economy class; sometimes depending on the aircraft we're flying he has enough room, but other times he's all squished in and I feel bad for him. Most of the time he's ok; it's just very bad luck if there's not enough leg room.
Business is the only way to fly on long haul. Anytime I fly to my other house in the Philippines, it’s business class. 15 hours in economy would be grueling.
@@thetowndrunk988 good god yeah that much time in economy class sounds like a nightmare! The farthest we fly is from Finland to Spain and back so it's not -all- that bad. 15 hours though? Yeah we'd cough up the extra for business!
@@thetowndrunk988 I flew 12 hours from germany to south korea with the extra leg-room economy seat, it was totally fine, I am 186cm tall. A normal seat would have been unbearable though
Just a note that the old Doha International Airport is also used for executive private jet, mainly Qatar Airways private jets. As a business class holder you do have access to the Al Murjan First class lounge which is huge and don't get as crowded.
9:19 The last time I was flying BC on A380, there were also an issue with the maximum wattage provided by the power sockets. IIRC that was something around 50 or 60 Watt, which is good enough for a small "powerpoint only" laptop with a typical 45Watt USB-C travel charger but fails to support a bigger "mobile workstation" type laptop with 130Watt PSU. Even if the laptop rarely consumes more than the half of that max power, apparently the initial current is too high and tripps the e-fuse of the power socket.
I flew with Qatar from Italy to Doha to go to Male (Maldives). A beautiful trip, made in economy but the level was very high. We had a great meal, great hearty food and slept. We flew out on two A350 and on the way back on a 777 and an A350. I will definitely fly with Qatar again. ps: Petter, this Vlog is amazing. Congrats to you and your wife
@@antjee In my opinion, the A350 is definitely the better of the two. The 777 has the advantage of being more spacious, but the comfort of the A350 is amazing.
I was privileged to receive a complimentary upgrade to Qatar business on the last leg of a return journey from SE Asia to Europe via Doha. This video did bring back some very happy memories. It is the only time I've been in a genuine business class (I have experienced a couple of short haul business trips and those were little more than just wider seats). Qatar's 777 are really nice.
Hello Mentour :) Im thinking on recent case where one pilot as passenger replaced incapacitated captain... Ok, in this case it was the same type rating pilot... But anyway, in case you are traveling as passenger and suddenly pilot or copilot become incapacitated, would you offer to assist remaining pilot, even if the aircraft is not 737... to handle radio communication or something like that ?
My friend who is a Captain on a global airline was called by cabin crew to the cockpit as he was flying as a passenger going on holidays because one of the pilots became incapacitated.
The only proper response would be to offer services if needed. Describe your experience and see if your qualifications are needed. They will absolutely call on you if needed. Nobody wants to be a casualty.
7k round trip on that long of a flight for 2 isn't too bad compared to some of the rates I've seen lol Seems worth it as part of an expensive trip with loved ones, at least once. It makes the whole mood and experience completely different when you dont start off a trip sore and grumpy. Something I've done before is upgrade just the outbound leg of a trip for that reason, as it matters a lot less on the way back. Although, I've noticed a lot of airlines don't allow this on round trip tickets anymore.
7K absolutely sounds like a waste of money to me, especially since it only is for a couple of hours. Imagine having 8 days on your destination that gives you plenty of comfort.
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg I'm going to suggest that it's a relative and perspective issue/question. If you're option is a vacation to a GREAT getaway for a solid length of time (say 6 days or more) versus a barely afforded 2 to 4 days at a mediocre hotel someplace you can "tolerate"... for the price, then yes... It's probably a waste. This IS "Business Class" for a reason... and I'll get to that... IF on the other hand, you're on the way to a GREAT getaway either way, then why not? You might technically shorten the stay on budget, BUT you also essentially remove the first 48 to 72 hours of "recovery from the trip" because you had the comforts and friendliness on the flight(s) out and look forward to the same treatments going home... I've been on budgeted travels, and more often than not, I've wished to have a vacation just to get over my vacation because of the hassle and stress "in the field"... largely going and coming... not for being a stranger in a strange land... and NOT for "overdoing" anything. Business Class is how management and executives travel multinationally for actual business functions. Some of those people make multi-million dollar decisions and their performance HAS to be at its best. You DO NOT want someone showing up for an executive round-table that might make or break your company's YEAR in about an hour's discussion after they've been kept awake for 72 hours, cramped against a handsy jack-ass and kicked in the lower back by an obnoxious kid with ONLY bribing the flight attendants for liquor beyond their "in-flight allowance" as a comfort. It's a fine point where "It costs money to make money" and can DAMN WELL be worth the investment... I'm not one to take advantage of the pajamas... To me, that's a bit much, and I'm quite used to the dubious practice of sleeping in my "road clothes"... I've built a habit of picking out the "road clothes" exactly for that as part of their function... "Comfortable and casual enough to sleep in"... as it were. However, that's just me. I can understand how someone might find changing into PJ's (EVEN on a plane full of other people) more comforting than trying to sleep in whatever else they've worn on the plane... ...AND just to be clear, I'm only pointing out that (probably like yourself) I see some of the "amenities" as relatively superfluous, even if I can understand the point... haha ;o)
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg depends on your bank account. If you can afford it then why not? If you’re relegated to the cheap seats then make the best of what you can afford.
Yeah I thought that sounded pretty reasonable. I flew return with BA from Heathrow to San Francisco business class in June 2015 and it was a little over £10000 at the time for two. Which would have been equivalent to around $15,000 at the time. The seating seemed pretty similar to these ones as you had panels to pull up as well. Food was very good and it was extremely quiet as only around 1/3 rd of the cabin was full if that. On the way back we flew out 4 th of July and it was even more empty. Over 20 years back when I went on honeymoon to Havana we booked with a company called Voyages Jules Verne in the U.K. and they upgraded our tickets to first class for free. It wasn’t as swanky as today but still very good and the tickets were £7000 for both of us if we had paid. More than the whole honeymoon cost! Again it was very quiet as over Christmas holiday time so likely why we got an upgrade.
So fun seeing you finally travel in business class Petter! I paid for my parents recent trip to NYC and I sent the on they’re way in business. They had also never flown business before. They really enjoyed Swiss business class. I would recommend you some time check out Lufthansa First class I you ever have the chance! It is really special going to the First Class terminal in Frankfurt and being driven to the 747-8!
Another great vlog Petter - thank you. You are pretty much a natural in front of the camera, and your dialog is always very informative. I look forward to your next production, should you decide to continue, but this one definitely is a big thumbs up from me. cheers mate.
Although I live abroad, I’m originally from Barcelona, which means that I’m back home often visiting friends and family. I justify my priority pass membership exclusively when flying out of BCN. All 3 lounges there are leaps and bounds beyond what most Priority Pass accessible lounges around Europe have to offer.
One other tip I would add about being early to the airport is whether you are traveling to a country where you need a visa. If you do, get there earlier than usual.
So glad you had such a wonderful time! I'm still waiting for my first honeymoon (it'll be 35 years come September lol). You would have got on brilliantly with my dad. He was the ultimate in forward planning, giving himself plenty of extra time for every journey, especially if he was going to a train or plane, or if he was going to be picking someone up. I've taken after him, and if I'm driving anywhere, I usually add about 30 minutes for every 100-150 miles (depending on the route). As a result I'm rarely late for anything - unlike my old feller who used to be dreadful and always late. It has taken me years just to get him to look for traffic information before leaving! I'm always so much more relaxed if I can set the departure time (I've learned to tell him we need to be wherever it is earlier than necessary lol). It must have been a lovely change for your dear lady to be on the receiving end of such good treatment! She surely deserves it :) Looks like you'll be taking business class for any long distance flights from now on. Travel less often, but enjoy it more when you do!
We flew QR business class Atlanta-Doha-Singapore not long ago. Since then we've flown premium cabins internationally with British Airways (first), Delta, American, United (the newer Polaris seats on the 787-10) and Cathay Pacific. While CX is very good, especially the lounges, none of them were as good as Qatar's business class. No, I didn't buy tickets. I used frequent flyer awards and paid just the taxes or fees.
I've flown J with Emirates many times for work, so it's very similar to this one. It's a completely different way of flying. When you arrive at your destination, you're rested and refreshed, compared to an economy flight. It's the proper way to fly. But I don't think it's worth it, if you have to pay out of your own pocket, spending that much money for a few hours of flying. I usually use miles to upgrade, but of course you have to travel a lot to do that. Also, if you get your loyalty points with a company, you get many perks of flying in J even in economy, like priority check-in, boarding and luggage delivery, and lounge access.
I travel a lot for work in business, and its nice when someone else is paying. Complete waste of money when it’s your own though! The cost of a business ticket buys you many more days in a nice hotel at your destination!!
I have flown business a few times with work (including on airlines no longer with us like Continental (amazing!!) ). I have flown American Airlines first class and was underwhelmed - tired plane (duct tape holding the carpet down - in first class!). I lived in Singapore for a few years and regularly flew Singapore AIrlines SIN-LHR in business (on my own cost - usually with the help of air-miles). You are 100% right - if you enjoy the travel experience, the money spent on the tickets is worthwhile (if you have the budget obviously). To me, Singapore Airlines is the best business class product in the world - as a big guy, even I was finding the seat comfortable and roomy and a 14 hour flight was pleasant ! It's hard to go back to economy for sure after being used to being treated like a human in business class !
You should try flying sas on the a350 or the a330 in business. ...👀 and maybe even trying the CRJ as there isn't enough videos on that one and it is a really interesting plane because of its mixed thoughts...
Fun video - thank you. I was lucky enough to be on staff travel with another airline for a few years and can confirm that there is nothing like travelling First, or even Business, on long-haul. Those days are gone now and I'm back 'down the back' but I'll never forget how lucky I was. Great to share that perspective with you!
Definitely more videos like this 👍 I enjoy all your videos so much. I feel like a private student learning so much about aviation from a different perspective. However as former cabin crew mostly on the 747’s and as an avegeek I got sooooo excited for you both knowing this was your 1st time in business class especially in the Q-Suites. Once you’ve had that experience up front you can never go back unless it’s your only choice. Congratulations 🍾 on your second honeymoon looked like you had a real 1st class experience and I would definitely love to see more videos like this. Don’t be so afraid to video more onboard or in the terminal most airlines love the publicity especially Qatar 🇶🇦 as there experience is so consistent. I really enjoyed listening while onboard it make us feel like we’re with you, so maybe watch some videos from Noel Phillips, Josh Kahill or Nonstop Dan. I subscribe to yours and their channels, they do a great job but all have their own niche just like you coming from a pilots experience and persecutive. 1st review the ground experience and the lounges and their offerings. 2. Boarding and seats on aircraft specific. 3. Food and drink offerings we want to see menu’s and how the presentation is. 4. Crew friendliness professionalism and of course the Loo review without a doubt lol 😂 5. Deplaning customs wait times as no videoing allowed in customs. Followed up with your over all experience and how you’d rate the airline. It’s a damn shame you can’t get discounts on other airlines via an interline agreement. However find some good deals on days off and do some reviews on airlines most reviewers don’t do and you’ll have created your own niche from a world class pilot who knows his shit up front but not so much down the back. Let me know if you’d like more tips as I’d be happy to help. Keep’m coming loved this format and you could video some of your aviation content at 35k Ft creating 2 videos in one trip. One from a pilots perspective and one from a newbie to premium travel. Even Emirates economy is amazing and NEVER leave out as stand up bar something soon to be a thing of the past lol 😂 Look forward to see what you come up with next. Fly safe ✈️
The 787 dreamliner is hands down the best aircraft I've ever flown on. I flew a long haul Vietnam Airlines flight from London to Hanoi a few years ago . The cabin is unbelievably quiet and takeoff and landing were incredibly smooth. The mood lighting in the cabin was great and the service from the crew was some of the best I've ever encountered.
I flew from Australia to Italy and back with Emirates, which apparently they are exclusively business class. It was absolutely fantastic. While the seating arrangement wasn't the same (the Air Bed hadn't been implemented yet) the service was phenomenal. Because most of the trip was VERY light on passengers, I spent the majority of me time in the crew quarters playing poker with the hosts and unlimited, but responsible Scotches! ;) All I can really say is there is nothing like the difference between Economy and Business Class. One day, I'll try first, which my son has already experienced, but for now, I will hold on to the happy memories of those flights. Everything wound up being timed so the same crew team were on for the return flights (there were some changes along the way, but the main "1/2 hour friendships" I'd made on the way to Italy were there for the return journey!) The adage, "It's not about the destination, but the journey." proved to be true, I would only add "...and the friends you make along the way!".
Mate. I’ve watched so so much of your videos throughout the years. And I think for me this was the Best. To actually see you as a airline passenger sharing your views and not as a pilot. Amazing mate. Super interesting to see your views on this trip in this perspective
@@soeren72 you clearly have a personal axe to grind with Qatar as your other comments show, maybe a disgruntled ex employee. I have flown with them many times and enjoy it
The Emirates business class seat isnt a great product to be honest. To me, Singapore Airlines is the best business class product in the sky. Great experience flying with them and the most amazing cabin crew as well. I was privileged to call Singapore Airlines my "home" airline for a few years, but it is an objective, not biased opinion :)
@duncanmcewan1049 I'm glad to hear your perspective on Singapore Airlines as my son is traveling with Singapore to Thailand for a well-deserved vacation in a couple of months and is going business class.
I love your excitement at flying business class. I have flown so much for business but almost entirely in economy, so I share your joy and that even as a pilot you see it as a privilege. You and your partner deserve it.
Wow, even a little "Loo review" was performed. You definitely earned the "YT airline reviewer" badge 😎 Watch out Noel, Josh and others, Petter's on a run 😅
I have a flight from Stockholm via Doha to Delhi with Qatar Airways later this month. After seeing this video i decided to upgrade my ticket to Business Class. Tack Sandra och Petter!
As a pilot, I'm surprised that you haven't noticed the very poor condition of Suvarnabhumi airport's runways. They provide for the most bumpy takeoffs and landings I've experienced. As a regular flyer to BKK, I fly Emirates and Etihad a lot. Unfortunately in economy unless I get an upgrade, a very rare occurrence in many years. I favor Emirates because of the A380 which provides unmatched pax experience IMO. I've tried Qatar a year ago because they had the best price at that time and I must say that I have been really unimpressed. Food, service from the crew, seats, IFE, boarding and deboarding procedures... I have found almost everything not on par with their competitors. And I really dislike Doha airport. It's too big and complex, one gets lost easily, signs are seldom and unclear, the food area is very difficult to find, almost no place in the transit area to plug a charger (I haven't tried any lounge). Dubai really is a much better transit experience.
Great video! I'm a firm believer in flying first/business, as the perks start in the airport with easier security lines, etc. Plus I justify the cost knowing that I'm earning points mitigating the cost of a future trip, so one needs to factor that into the price. Hope you two bring us along for more vacations! 😎
This was a great video-I appreciate how you noted that no everyone can fly this way, and had nice things to say. Too often, folks who make videos about flying first and business in different airlines just complain. Good on you!
Новый медовый месяц? Это потрясающе! Ты счастлив и счастлива твоя Сандра! Настоящего мужчину выдают глаза счастливой женщины! Ты это сделал, Петтер! Наслажлайтесь друг другом, пока мальчишки и собачки скучают за вами! Ваши глаза светятся независимо от того, в каком классе вы летите! Счастья вам и вашим деткам! Привет питомцам! Рада с вами! 😂❤🌈
One thing I can appreciate about the potential of these Vlogs is the fact that there are the in-depth breakdowns that really give insight on the amenities and design for artistic inspirations.
I felt very uneasy watching this video, given how workers are treated by the state of Qatar. If you want to make videos for wealthy people, go ahead: I’m sure you know what you’re doing. But “hey, if you’ve got loads of money, you get treated well” is kind-of boring and self-evident in the world we live in. Only offering an opinion (or a viewpoint) to you, Petter, because you asked for one, and I have been watching your channel for years, and thank you for absolutely top-drawer informative content!
I really enjoyed this video! You made me remember the almost magical feeling I had the first time my wife and I flew first/business class. What a difference compared to economy class! We really couldn't believe what we were missing out on. Like you said in your video, it really takes the worst part of any trip and makes it so much better. If you can afford it, I recommend it to anyone - even when you don't get the "best" of the best, it's still so much better than economy. Keep up the great videos and thank you for sharing this part of your trip with us.
I flew from Miami to Kathmandu over Doha with the same airline and I will never forget Himalayas and flaying with QATAR airways. Excellent video and it reminds me of my beautiful experience…Those traveling videos with visiting some places are a good refreshing idea on top of your amazing piloting videos!
Sounds like a wonderful trip! So glad you and your wife were able to get away and enjoy what sounds like a fantastic vacation together! Thanks for this excellent video, would love to see more like it. Overall, I love the Mentour videos and follow you avidly. Keep up the great work!
Another great video, this time as a passenger. This was a good idea and complements well your other types of video such as issues in your industry and accident analyses. I enjoy watching them all.
Back in 1956 and 1957 My father's US Navy ship was stationed in Barcelona and we lived there with my brother and I attending a private Spanish Boy's school (paid for by the US Navy since they had no American schools). The city is beautiful, and in the area we lived (along Avenida Diagonal) there were numerous parks, and wide tree lined roads, with circles that had beautiful fountains. Second behind Paris, it is probably the most beautiful city in Europe, at least back then.
Love the details you give from your pilot perspective, so interesting to hear the facts about the aircraft and airports etc. Heading on similar flight path shortly. Really helpful to see this.
When I pressed PLAY I went in with a feeling "Petter, leave this to Sam, mate." But after seeing it all the way through, yes, I think you did a fantastic job of conveying the experience in a way that I can totally appreciate and relate to. Well done.
I'm a big guy, too, and especially for longer flights, I find it absolutely worth springing for business class. The lounge facilities, the expedited boarding (and baggage pick-up), and most of all the space make it hard to face going back to coach!
I flew from Phl to Bangkok…I flew on Qatar will economy and let me tell you between the service, the food and the cleanliness it was unbelievable. I loved it…the flight was 22 hours and we stopped in Doho as well. I was so nice at Doho. Qatar is the best!
5:56 In some airports, you can skip queuing for immigration and/or security clearance. I tried that in CMB, CDG and in MLE airports. Staff travellers in some situations are accepted to board the aircraft at the last minute and they need to use the "Airline Staff/Crew" queue. Better to check with the airport staff.
Better and moreover humble and down-to-earth review. A lot better to watch than "Nonstop Dan", who comes across like a hedonistic guy in shorts looking out of place in business class
I appreciate your explanation of the bleed air running the air conditioning in the 787, made it clear now for me why theres a clear difference at the start of the engines. Like you, I absolutely loved flying in the 787! I was Shorted out of my business class trip last June due to weather at Newark, which caused me to miss my flight out to Lisbon with United in a 787, and then got rebooked with TAP in an Airbus A320neo [or may have been 321neo, dont recall] which was not too shabby, but not what i paid for originally. Anyway, i need to retry that in the future. But, for my flight back to the US I reserved my seat in the premium economy cabin and that was a much better experience than economy, food was better and the leg room was fantastic. The 787 was a dream to fly in, especially because the plane felt quieter than the 777 and 767.
Flying has changed so much since I was an international traveller in the late '70s, early '80s. I flew business class once on SAA at a time when SAA was a really good airline and it was nice, but nothing like this. Thank you for creating such an interesting channel, I really enjoy it.
I've been a follower of the Mentour Pilot main channel for almost 5 years now but I never knew about this channel. This is awesome, and you do it just as well as your analytical and instructional videos on the other channel. Hitting subscribe here too was a no brainer! Awesome work!
I've been retired 12 years now. Business class in the US was wider seats and better food then. Absolutely nothing like you two experienced. The cost premium was much less though. My work paid for business class, so you know it wasn't expensive. Good video. Looking forward to more in this series.
Av geek here. I have watched many other channels and their take on “check out business/first class seats.” As usual, your video was much better. Most of the other channels look more like paid promotions from the airline. Yours was an honest, well presented video.
This video was so coool! Happy for you two!! Your excitement and happiness were genuine! The best conditions I experienced in a airplane were a premium economy seat for a 8h30 transatlantic flight… it was so comfortable! Business class seems amazing! Only a question of money and priorities… I loved the video and how you explained everything. Please, do more! 😊
For families of four, their QSuite quads are perfect. You can open the partitions between the seats and get the feeling that you’re all sitting together around a table. It’s very nice.
As an employee of a company that regularly offers its employees business class, this video reminded me of how special that opportunity is, for others. It is frighteningly out of reach for the ordinary customer because of its steep price but the experience is so wonderful. I have had the privilege of doing this on Emirates, Singapore, Qatar and AirIndia and Emirates takes the cake.
the only caveat I would have with Emirates is that you have to know what plane and route you are flying or you can get the old 2-2-2 configured seats which are no where near the comfort of the 1-2-1! I think only some of their 777s have this quirk of a layout and particularly the Africa and Middle East flights.
Great new segment for your channel ... thank you! I would enjoy more of this! As a long time airline guy in many positions (USA), I really enjoy this kind of view of what is out there in the market!
I think the best thing about you is your details commentary on everything. You have done a brilliant video and you should do tomorrow travelling documentaries Willis, your investigative videos. I always enjoy your channel.
I’ve done three sectors in Q-Suite and one in Qatar’s A380 first class. The Q-Suite was/is better than the first class seat, but the soft product in F was incredible with $200 bottles of wine and quite the most amazing airport lounge I’ve ever been to - felt more like a museum than a lounge.
so nice to see you enjoying things at the back of the plane having given so much to aviation and the flying public peta. your wife is lovely. top marks all round sir. cheers
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I'll do it if you consider making an episode about the Lamia crash in Colombia 2016. 😉
Very nice change from your normal videos.. your wife seems very nice. As they are called a "suite", is there enough privacy to join the mile high club?
Great video, I agree, I always pay for the executive lounges. Virgin have an excellent lounge at Heathrow where they have small rooms isolated with glass and long couches, very quiet and great place to get some rest between flights. Another excellent executive lounge was in Manchester (UK) British Airways. Agree, drinking any alcohol before or during a flight is a bad idea.
Wow... great stuff...
Sandra was annoyed with you ... haha ... 😂😂😂😂😂
It's absolutely fantastic to see the real Petter outside of the cockpit for once and indulging in business class. As much as we all get carried away into first class airline review videos, it's rare to see such an honest vlog that really speaks to the average person for a once in a lifetime trip. Congratulations on your first long haul business class travel, and thank you for being so authentic :)
As a QATAR AIRWAYS B777 Captain, very happy you enjoyed your trip with us. Get your staff travel department working on a reciprocal travel agreement for next time.
How are your rostering systems
What’s that
Loved this. Thank you.
I travelled business with Qatar. Will do it again next year. Loved it!
Unfortunately, that travel agreement will be unlikely. Mentour won't mention it for ethical reasons, but we all know he flies for Ryanair. Enough said.
When you said you did not want to show Qatar Airways enployees since you didn’t have permissions, made me think of all the “travel by air” videos where you see lots of attendants in lots of airplanes, from which, I’m guessing, they didn’t ask for permission, and how, from you, it shows again, the respect you have for everyone working in aviation, actually I’m sure the respect you must have for people in general. Speaks loudly about your philosophy.
They are Muslim respet
And they do have masks on, so no real Biggie in this case.
He said he did not want to film without permission. He did not say that he had asked and not been given permission. That is a different ball park. Jesus! Just kidding...
@@lanieaguisanda6221what?
My wife and I were ruined for long air travel a few years ago when we traveled to Europe for a river cruise. On the return flight, we had been booked in economy plus which had been oversold so we had been upgraded to business class. My wife has some mobility problem so she uses a wheel chair. When we arrived on the flight from Brussels to Heathrow the wheel chair pusher pushed her to the World Club instead of the normal wheel chair area. It was then we realized it was in a different world! It is so very worth it, especially if you are a little older.
I know, right? My first business class experience was due to an intercontinental business trip where we had to fly on business class according to company policy...since then just the thought of long haul flights on economy makes me want to womit :D...ruined for life
Your excellent advice about not feeling rushed is really important. I incorporate this into everyday life. Even just going to work, I leave early and don't stress about traffic. My life is so much more enjoyable now.
That is so basic that I learned the lesson at age 5.
The early bird gets the worm.
But especially important when travel arrangements are involved, and beyond lowered stress, there's the additional benefit of more time in a lounge.
Meanwhile back when I flew out of Adelaide airport in 2006, their immigration hall opens only 1.5h before departure. So with my family reaching the airport 2h bef a flight departs, that hall was still shuttered with movable partitions that directed us straight to the gates instead (but airport staff would soon ask us to wait for that hall to open 1st)
I don't know if its just me, but I've spent the entire VLOG (well done on that, keep going) waiting for several key moments:
- "That's worth remembering for later"
- Explanation that "The passenger is a XX year old male with a long history in aviation. His significant other has been with him before and they both reported being well rested during the flight"
- The inevitable catastrophe.
- The "What did we learn" part
In all seriousness, amazing point of view. A refreshing change from the channel's normal story mode.
Be safe and well!
Lol that would've been hilarious, but this is the "Mentour Now" channel, not "Mentour Pilot"🤣🤣
Also the part where things start to happen really quickly
I really enjoyed your perspective on the trip (at least the flying aspect of it). I think it's good to keep the airlines honest in their policies and there is no sway either way considering they did not pay you or offer you free flights for this review. Great job, I'd like to see this again if you get another vacation!!
I heard that someone said: there is no such thing as free meal..
Now this is a real vlog. Unbiased, pointing out the genuine positives and negatives. And not groveling to any airline stakeholders, which we have unfortunately come to always expect from the sponsored creators.
Yes, the completely unbiased conclusion of Airbus not being at level with Boeing. Who would have expected that from Mentour
Yes please do more of these videos, I watch Noel Phillips and Josh Cahill doing similar BUT with your perspective and experience it’s definitely different in a unique way. Keep them coming. 👍
Proudly flew as a B 777 Skipper for Qatar Airways .
They took care of every airplane as if it was a Classic Car .
Shinny - Clean - Spotless ! Never a Serious Maintenance issue ; and the Latest Technology on your Flight Deck.
Kindest Regards
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Working for Al Baker is a nightmare through and through. Of course they treated every airplane like a car when they have slave labor from Bangladesh and India. Greetings from a former colleague that can't wait to see Akbar disappear from the face of the planet.
I loved this one. I’ve watched so many of your crash investigation videos. And they are without a doubt exceptional in detail, clarity and your objective perspective. This video we got to see a different side of you, sill exceptional in detail and clarity but playful! Loved seeing that. Thank you for sharing!
I am so happy you liked it! Thank you for your support!
Your just a great great human, I can tell , I’ve just recently found your channels and as an old hobby pilot, I’ve binged 15 videos in a week. Great job great channel great content, your attitude, demeanor and dedication to your fellow man is just a breath of fresh air. Thankyou for what you do.
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Thank you for that feedback. It’s really appreciated
Those seats in the 787-9 aren't Q-Suites, they are Adient Ascent based seats. In the Q-Suites you don't sit at an angle. Qatar also do have first class on a few of their 777s.
Nice!
No they don't. The 777s with first class are Cathay Pacific airplanes on dry lease.
Q suite honsetly loos better than 1st class at other airlines, privacy/interior is a game changer
Came here to say the same
2:17 Thank you for taking the extra care to do this.
There is a You tuber that does travel videos that likes to fix a camera on the cabin ceiling. It captures any passengers they are next to and people in the allie waking past. It must be very weird for other passages.
Great VLOG! I really appreciate the way you deliver the content. Straight forward without a the unnecessary fluff of a lot of v-loggers out there!
So happy you liked it!
WOW! What a nice surprise. I had never envisaged you in the role of an flight reviewer BUT it really, REALLY works, better still that you're a Boeing 737 pilot. It gives the review a totally new angle! It is absolutely BRILLIANT! I hope that this wasn't just a one-off? Well done mate, I loved it!
I flew Qatar 2 years ago on my way to Japan when due to Coronavirus the country was closed to foreigners and tickets were almost free. Very professional and friendly crew, I totally recommend them but their prices are on the expensive side now.
I can't tell you enjoyable this was, and such a welcome contrast from most of your videos, which typically involve some sort of incident or mishap up to and including some with tragically dire outcomes. This was quite refreshing that way, so good to see you relaxed and enjoying what appears to be a delightful journey. You must do more of these, it was truly charming.
As others have said, this is a very open and honest vlog, and when I finally treat myself to a well-deserved vacation, I do believe that as you showed us Business class is definitely worth the extra that it does cost. And you were probably best suited to present us with all that you have available when picking to travel in this fashion. And it was nice meeting Your wife and partner in Life . My Son is taking a vacation in a few months and will be traveling from Arizona to Thailand and he is doing it in business class also. Once again thanks for letting us travel along.
at the right price business class is undoubtedly worth it. It makes the whole travel part of a long haul trip an experience worth having rather than an ordeal you survive so you can get to and from your holiday/work destination! Prices should start to come back down to more sensible levels now that the airline industry has got back into gear and the number of flights match the number of passengers wanting to fly better.
You know its really nice to see you in the setting of being a passenger and it also makes for a less serious side of aviation commentary. Not to mention after the hard work of your own job and the more serious videos in terms of analysing disasters, its a nice insight to see you in a more jovial situation lots of smiles and laughs, can see how much you enjoyed this and your wife. This all came across in the video as well i think certainly had me smiling throughout, i look forward to seeing many more clips like this one along with the usual content on the other channel
P.S - forgot to mention well earned and very much deserved a trip in the business class, hope the holiday was fantastic too
I had the pleasure to once travel business class on a business trip paid by my employer over the Atlantic. The difference to economy class where you're being treated like dead freight that needs to be occassionally moisterized is an eye-opening experience.
Once you've been treated like an actual human up front it really makes you feel like cattle the next time you fly
"Self-loading freight" is a term used for passengers in the business, I am led to believe.
Or you can just fly Asian carriers and don't have to deal with poor service from American and European airlines
@@PeizxcvOh? and how does one go about that when flying within the US?
@@MetsterAnn He was flying transatlantic
I'm truly shocked that this is your first business class trip! Thanks for sharing your experience. Where else can you be pampered so well and be served meals with a blanket and pillows and watch a movie all the while experiencing the joy of travel? My first biz class trip was ord-gru. I'll never forget that first experience and my ability to travel in economy on long haul was completely destroyed 😂
I fly quite a lot in business class long-haul, in the past year a lot on Qatar Airways. Access to lounges can be a game changer (can be because lounges in some parts of the world can be overcrowded), for sure the lounges in Doha. The Business class lounge is amazing, but the First Class lounge is next level - fine dining, jacuzzi, spa etc.
Flights in business - definitely a game changer with lie flat beds, food (especially with the possibility to order on demand like in Qatar Airways), more privacy and other amenities. It is a completely different way of travelling. No doubt.
Absolutely!
Is there a time limit? Otherwise, with the spa, jacuzzi and dining, I'd get to the airport at least a week before the flight 😂
@@ironcito1101 in the first class lounge there is no limit
And so it should be, at that price...
Even if you're flying economy, lounge access can help just for access to showers during a layover on a long trip. In 2015, I found a place in Narita (Tokyo) where I could take a shower, with no lounge access required, and they also had little nap-compartments. In 2018 in Hong Kong, I had to get lounge access to get a shower, and it ended up costing about $75, but I still thought it was worth it.
-- Unrelated, one really nice thing about the 787 is the humidification of the cabin air. It makes a big difference for long-flight comfort.
It's so nice to see you and your wife together! It makes such a difference to see that the content creators we love are real people with real lives! Not sure whether we need any more flight reviews from passenger standpoint as that means you're going to have to fork out for flying rather than being paid as usual!! ;-)
Thanks for bringing me as close as I'll ever get to flying 1st class. I had no idea
I'm glad to hear that Sandra and you had a great vacation in Thailand! Yes, Qatar's business class is really awesome. On one occasion, I was offered an upgrade from economy to business for a reasonable price. It was worth every cent. I'm one of those who cannot speed while sitting in a confined space. But on a flat bed, I was able to sleep for several hours and arrived my destination well rested.
I always arrive at airports 4 hours before flights even on short-haul trips and even when flying coach, with good reason - there’s plenty of stuff to do inside the terminal (including things like have lunch) in most cases. Will never forget how much fun it was to have food delivered to the terminal at LAX waiting for my flight to Boise to depart back in April 2022. It’s also a fantastic plane-watching experience - most American aircraft terminals have fantastic views of the taxiways, runways, and the apron.
I'm surprised you were able to get delivery in the terminal. I don't think delivery guys would be allowed to take things airside in Europe. How did that work?
I enjoy watching the planes, too. The dark windows and heavy soundproofing make it much more pleasant than if you were out in the sun and the noise, and I even saw a C-5 come in and land, at a non-military airport, don't know why it was there.
@@iannicolson Airport has their own delivery service run by airport employees
Well, it depends how often you are flying... for 10 years I flew Manchester to Amsterdam every week, going on Mondays and back on Fridays... at the end I had the whole journey worked out to the minute treating the airport like an oversized bus station going straight from entrance to departure gate, at that point it's more about optimising your time than any kind of fun at the airport!... and yes I know I had a huge carbon footprint at the time so now I'm redeeming my carbon-emission sins of past by cycling to work 😀!
Hey! Just wanted to correct some information given in this video! So the suite you guys sat in in the B787 is not actually Qsuite but a newer slightly different but smaller version of it introduced only on the 787 as the cabin wasn't wide enough to accommodate Qsuite. It's called the Adient Ascent Suite. Qsuite is only available on all A350-1s and select A350-9s and B777s and is the seat you flew on during your second leg. Secondly, Qatar Airways does offer first class on select B777 to destinations like Istanbul for example but unlike first class on the A380, those B777 first class seats are not authentic Qatar Airways seats as their respective aircrafts are loaned aircrafts to Qatar Airways from Cathay Pacific during a time of aircraft shortage. The service remains the same regardless. Happy to clear that up :)
I am a tall guy and a normal seat is painful to me after a while, not enough leg room, but there are some extra seats with extra leg-room which are perfect, they are still cheap and more than enough for me. Those business class seats look great though
My husband is a big tall guy. We travel in economy class; sometimes depending on the aircraft we're flying he has enough room, but other times he's all squished in and I feel bad for him. Most of the time he's ok; it's just very bad luck if there's not enough leg room.
Business is the only way to fly on long haul. Anytime I fly to my other house in the Philippines, it’s business class. 15 hours in economy would be grueling.
@@thetowndrunk988 good god yeah that much time in economy class sounds like a nightmare! The farthest we fly is from Finland to Spain and back so it's not -all- that bad. 15 hours though? Yeah we'd cough up the extra for business!
@@viatrixaoctavius Yeah, it’s definitely worth it. It basically gives you a whole extra day of vacation, since you can sleep well on the flight
@@thetowndrunk988 I flew 12 hours from germany to south korea with the extra leg-room economy seat, it was totally fine, I am 186cm tall. A normal seat would have been unbearable though
The Q suites are the best way to travel. It’s one of the best experiences I’ve had flying. I can see why they win so many awards
Just a note that the old Doha International Airport is also used for executive private jet, mainly Qatar Airways private jets.
As a business class holder you do have access to the Al Murjan First class lounge which is huge and don't get as crowded.
9:19 The last time I was flying BC on A380, there were also an issue with the maximum wattage provided by the power sockets. IIRC that was something around 50 or 60 Watt, which is good enough for a small "powerpoint only" laptop with a typical 45Watt USB-C travel charger but fails to support a bigger "mobile workstation" type laptop with 130Watt PSU. Even if the laptop rarely consumes more than the half of that max power, apparently the initial current is too high and tripps the e-fuse of the power socket.
I flew with Qatar from Italy to Doha to go to Male (Maldives). A beautiful trip, made in economy but the level was very high. We had a great meal, great hearty food and slept. We flew out on two A350 and on the way back on a 777 and an A350.
I will definitely fly with Qatar again.
ps: Petter, this Vlog is amazing. Congrats to you and your wife
Which plane did you like better, the A350 or 777?
@@antjee In my opinion, the A350 is definitely the better of the two. The 777 has the advantage of being more spacious, but the comfort of the A350 is amazing.
I was privileged to receive a complimentary upgrade to Qatar business on the last leg of a return journey from SE Asia to Europe via Doha. This video did bring back some very happy memories. It is the only time I've been in a genuine business class (I have experienced a couple of short haul business trips and those were little more than just wider seats). Qatar's 777 are really nice.
Hello Mentour :) Im thinking on recent case where one pilot as passenger replaced incapacitated captain... Ok, in this case it was the same type rating pilot... But anyway, in case you are traveling as passenger and suddenly pilot or copilot become incapacitated, would you offer to assist remaining pilot, even if the aircraft is not 737... to handle radio communication or something like that ?
My friend who is a Captain on a global airline was called by cabin crew to the cockpit as he was flying as a passenger going on holidays because one of the pilots became incapacitated.
Climate change strikes again!
The only proper response would be to offer services if needed. Describe your experience and see if your qualifications are needed. They will absolutely call on you if needed. Nobody wants to be a casualty.
7k round trip on that long of a flight for 2 isn't too bad compared to some of the rates I've seen lol
Seems worth it as part of an expensive trip with loved ones, at least once. It makes the whole mood and experience completely different when you dont start off a trip sore and grumpy. Something I've done before is upgrade just the outbound leg of a trip for that reason, as it matters a lot less on the way back. Although, I've noticed a lot of airlines don't allow this on round trip tickets anymore.
7K absolutely sounds like a waste of money to me, especially since it only is for a couple of hours. Imagine having 8 days on your destination that gives you plenty of comfort.
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg I'm going to suggest that it's a relative and perspective issue/question. If you're option is a vacation to a GREAT getaway for a solid length of time (say 6 days or more) versus a barely afforded 2 to 4 days at a mediocre hotel someplace you can "tolerate"... for the price, then yes... It's probably a waste.
This IS "Business Class" for a reason... and I'll get to that...
IF on the other hand, you're on the way to a GREAT getaway either way, then why not? You might technically shorten the stay on budget, BUT you also essentially remove the first 48 to 72 hours of "recovery from the trip" because you had the comforts and friendliness on the flight(s) out and look forward to the same treatments going home...
I've been on budgeted travels, and more often than not, I've wished to have a vacation just to get over my vacation because of the hassle and stress "in the field"... largely going and coming... not for being a stranger in a strange land... and NOT for "overdoing" anything.
Business Class is how management and executives travel multinationally for actual business functions. Some of those people make multi-million dollar decisions and their performance HAS to be at its best. You DO NOT want someone showing up for an executive round-table that might make or break your company's YEAR in about an hour's discussion after they've been kept awake for 72 hours, cramped against a handsy jack-ass and kicked in the lower back by an obnoxious kid with ONLY bribing the flight attendants for liquor beyond their "in-flight allowance" as a comfort.
It's a fine point where "It costs money to make money" and can DAMN WELL be worth the investment... I'm not one to take advantage of the pajamas... To me, that's a bit much, and I'm quite used to the dubious practice of sleeping in my "road clothes"... I've built a habit of picking out the "road clothes" exactly for that as part of their function... "Comfortable and casual enough to sleep in"... as it were. However, that's just me. I can understand how someone might find changing into PJ's (EVEN on a plane full of other people) more comforting than trying to sleep in whatever else they've worn on the plane...
...AND just to be clear, I'm only pointing out that (probably like yourself) I see some of the "amenities" as relatively superfluous, even if I can understand the point... haha ;o)
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg depends on your bank account. If you can afford it then why not? If you’re relegated to the cheap seats then make the best of what you can afford.
Yeah I thought that sounded pretty reasonable. I flew return with BA from Heathrow to San Francisco business class in June 2015 and it was a little over £10000 at the time for two. Which would have been equivalent to around $15,000 at the time. The seating seemed pretty similar to these ones as you had panels to pull up as well. Food was very good and it was extremely quiet as only around 1/3 rd of the cabin was full if that. On the way back we flew out 4 th of July and it was even more empty. Over 20 years back when I went on honeymoon to Havana we booked with a company called Voyages Jules Verne in the U.K. and they upgraded our tickets to first class for free. It wasn’t as swanky as today but still very good and the tickets were £7000 for both of us if we had paid. More than the whole honeymoon cost! Again it was very quiet as over Christmas holiday time so likely why we got an upgrade.
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg Flight time was 20 hours, substantially more by an order of magnitude than your 'couple of hours' characterization.
So fun seeing you finally travel in business class Petter! I paid for my parents recent trip to NYC and I sent the on they’re way in business. They had also never flown business before. They really enjoyed Swiss business class.
I would recommend you some time check out Lufthansa First class I you ever have the chance! It is really special going to the First Class terminal in Frankfurt and being driven to the 747-8!
Another great vlog Petter - thank you. You are pretty much a natural in front of the camera, and your dialog is always very informative. I look forward to your next production, should you decide to continue, but this one definitely is a big thumbs up from me. cheers mate.
Although I live abroad, I’m originally from Barcelona, which means that I’m back home often visiting friends and family. I justify my priority pass membership exclusively when flying out of BCN. All 3 lounges there are leaps and bounds beyond what most Priority Pass accessible lounges around Europe have to offer.
One other tip I would add about being early to the airport is whether you are traveling to a country where you need a visa. If you do, get there earlier than usual.
So glad you had such a wonderful time! I'm still waiting for my first honeymoon (it'll be 35 years come September lol).
You would have got on brilliantly with my dad. He was the ultimate in forward planning, giving himself plenty of extra time for every journey, especially if he was going to a train or plane, or if he was going to be picking someone up. I've taken after him, and if I'm driving anywhere, I usually add about 30 minutes for every 100-150 miles (depending on the route). As a result I'm rarely late for anything - unlike my old feller who used to be dreadful and always late. It has taken me years just to get him to look for traffic information before leaving! I'm always so much more relaxed if I can set the departure time (I've learned to tell him we need to be wherever it is earlier than necessary lol).
It must have been a lovely change for your dear lady to be on the receiving end of such good treatment! She surely deserves it :) Looks like you'll be taking business class for any long distance flights from now on. Travel less often, but enjoy it more when you do!
So nice to see you and your wife having fun together. Now she knows what you are doing when you are not home. Great life together and much blessings!!
We flew QR business class Atlanta-Doha-Singapore not long ago. Since then we've flown premium cabins internationally with British Airways (first), Delta, American, United (the newer Polaris seats on the 787-10) and Cathay Pacific. While CX is very good, especially the lounges, none of them were as good as Qatar's business class. No, I didn't buy tickets. I used frequent flyer awards and paid just the taxes or fees.
I flew with Quatar Airlines back in 2002 when I went to Nepal. Even the Economy class was awesome (back then at least). Good service, nice cabin crew.
I've flown J with Emirates many times for work, so it's very similar to this one. It's a completely different way of flying. When you arrive at your destination, you're rested and refreshed, compared to an economy flight. It's the proper way to fly. But I don't think it's worth it, if you have to pay out of your own pocket, spending that much money for a few hours of flying. I usually use miles to upgrade, but of course you have to travel a lot to do that. Also, if you get your loyalty points with a company, you get many perks of flying in J even in economy, like priority check-in, boarding and luggage delivery, and lounge access.
I travel a lot for work in business, and its nice when someone else is paying.
Complete waste of money when it’s your own though! The cost of a business ticket buys you many more days in a nice hotel at your destination!!
I have flown business a few times with work (including on airlines no longer with us like Continental (amazing!!) ). I have flown American Airlines first class and was underwhelmed - tired plane (duct tape holding the carpet down - in first class!). I lived in Singapore for a few years and regularly flew Singapore AIrlines SIN-LHR in business (on my own cost - usually with the help of air-miles). You are 100% right - if you enjoy the travel experience, the money spent on the tickets is worthwhile (if you have the budget obviously). To me, Singapore Airlines is the best business class product in the world - as a big guy, even I was finding the seat comfortable and roomy and a 14 hour flight was pleasant ! It's hard to go back to economy for sure after being used to being treated like a human in business class !
Are you Scottish?
@@s125ish yep...
Really fascinating video! So nice to see you "off duty" and enjoying a holiday with your wife. 😊
You should try flying sas on the a350 or the a330 in business.
...👀 and maybe even trying the CRJ as there isn't enough videos on that one and it is a really interesting plane because of its mixed thoughts...
Fun video - thank you. I was lucky enough to be on staff travel with another airline for a few years and can confirm that there is nothing like travelling First, or even Business, on long-haul. Those days are gone now and I'm back 'down the back' but I'll never forget how lucky I was. Great to share that perspective with you!
Definitely more videos like this 👍 I enjoy all your videos so much. I feel like a private student learning so much about aviation from a different perspective. However as former cabin crew mostly on the 747’s and as an avegeek I got sooooo excited for you both knowing this was your 1st time in business class especially in the Q-Suites. Once you’ve had that experience up front you can never go back unless it’s your only choice. Congratulations 🍾 on your second honeymoon looked like you had a real 1st class experience and I would definitely love to see more videos like this. Don’t be so afraid to video more onboard or in the terminal most airlines love the publicity especially Qatar 🇶🇦 as there experience is so consistent. I really enjoyed listening while onboard it make us feel like we’re with you, so maybe watch some videos from Noel Phillips, Josh Kahill or Nonstop Dan. I subscribe to yours and their channels, they do a great job but all have their own niche just like you coming from a pilots experience and persecutive. 1st review the ground experience and the lounges and their offerings. 2. Boarding and seats on aircraft specific. 3. Food and drink offerings we want to see menu’s and how the presentation is. 4. Crew friendliness professionalism and of course the Loo review without a doubt lol 😂 5. Deplaning customs wait times as no videoing allowed in customs. Followed up with your over all experience and how you’d rate the airline.
It’s a damn shame you can’t get discounts on other airlines via an interline agreement. However find some good deals on days off and do some reviews on airlines most reviewers don’t do and you’ll have created your own niche from a world class pilot who knows his shit up front but not so much down the back. Let me know if you’d like more tips as I’d be happy to help. Keep’m coming loved this format and you could video some of your aviation content at 35k Ft creating 2 videos in one trip. One from a pilots perspective and one from a newbie to premium travel. Even Emirates economy is amazing and NEVER leave out as stand up bar something soon to be a thing of the past lol 😂 Look forward to see what you come up with next. Fly safe ✈️
The 787 dreamliner is hands down the best aircraft I've ever flown on. I flew a long haul Vietnam Airlines flight from London to Hanoi a few years ago . The cabin is unbelievably quiet and takeoff and landing were incredibly smooth. The mood lighting in the cabin was great and the service from the crew was some of the best I've ever encountered.
Unless you sit at the very back, that thing shakes sideways like a fish tail. Not the end of the world, but worth knowing.
I flew from Australia to Italy and back with Emirates, which apparently they are exclusively business class. It was absolutely fantastic. While the seating arrangement wasn't the same (the Air Bed hadn't been implemented yet) the service was phenomenal. Because most of the trip was VERY light on passengers, I spent the majority of me time in the crew quarters playing poker with the hosts and unlimited, but responsible Scotches! ;) All I can really say is there is nothing like the difference between Economy and Business Class. One day, I'll try first, which my son has already experienced, but for now, I will hold on to the happy memories of those flights. Everything wound up being timed so the same crew team were on for the return flights (there were some changes along the way, but the main "1/2 hour friendships" I'd made on the way to Italy were there for the return journey!) The adage, "It's not about the destination, but the journey." proved to be true, I would only add "...and the friends you make along the way!".
Mate. I’ve watched so so much of your videos throughout the years. And I think for me this was the Best. To actually see you as a airline passenger sharing your views and not as a pilot. Amazing mate. Super interesting to see your views on this trip in this perspective
love this, keep this up. but personally I would take Singapore or emirates over Qatar first class. PS you should start a Metour review channel
Agree completely, QR only has one good thing and thats the cabin crew. and they are treated like crap.
@@soeren72 you clearly have a personal axe to grind with Qatar as your other comments show, maybe a disgruntled ex employee. I have flown with them many times and enjoy it
The Emirates business class seat isnt a great product to be honest. To me, Singapore Airlines is the best business class product in the sky. Great experience flying with them and the most amazing cabin crew as well. I was privileged to call Singapore Airlines my "home" airline for a few years, but it is an objective, not biased opinion :)
@@duncanmcewan1049 I flew a lot with Sing and Cathay. As for the goodies Sing is better in my op. As for safety, Cathay is first, again in my op.
@duncanmcewan1049 I'm glad to hear your perspective on Singapore Airlines as my son is traveling with Singapore to Thailand for a well-deserved vacation in a couple of months and is going business class.
I love your excitement at flying business class. I have flown so much for business but almost entirely in economy, so I share your joy and that even as a pilot you see it as a privilege. You and your partner deserve it.
A compressor stall out the toilet window would certainly cure any constipation issues a passenger may have 😂😂😂😂
Good one 😂😂😂
@@herrflick101 its true lets be honest if that happens is gonna scare the sh*t outta you 😂😂😂😂
Business Ouch !. I got a free upgrade once. It was very nice. Especially with a ~20 hr stopover and the Lounge.!!!!!
Wow, even a little "Loo review" was performed. You definitely earned the "YT airline reviewer" badge 😎
Watch out Noel, Josh and others, Petter's on a run 😅
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Why did I just read "Loo review" in a Noel Philips video style voice in my head? 🤣
Enjoyed this video very much, Petter. Nice to see your lovely wife included, too. Thank you!
I have a flight from Stockholm via Doha to Delhi with Qatar Airways later this month. After seeing this video i decided to upgrade my ticket to Business Class. Tack Sandra och Petter!
As a pilot, I'm surprised that you haven't noticed the very poor condition of Suvarnabhumi airport's runways. They provide for the most bumpy takeoffs and landings I've experienced.
As a regular flyer to BKK, I fly Emirates and Etihad a lot. Unfortunately in economy unless I get an upgrade, a very rare occurrence in many years. I favor Emirates because of the A380 which provides unmatched pax experience IMO. I've tried Qatar a year ago because they had the best price at that time and I must say that I have been really unimpressed. Food, service from the crew, seats, IFE, boarding and deboarding procedures... I have found almost everything not on par with their competitors. And I really dislike Doha airport. It's too big and complex, one gets lost easily, signs are seldom and unclear, the food area is very difficult to find, almost no place in the transit area to plug a charger (I haven't tried any lounge). Dubai really is a much better transit experience.
So nice to see you and your wife having such a lovely time. Well done, you deserve it.
Because of the new business class on their 787, I say Emirates is better if you fly their A380
Fn boe always against Boeing
I can't wait for the 777-9
Feels nice to Hear about the good things about Qatar airways maybe I was part of preparing the Aircraft you bouded. Always a Mentour Fun👌
Great video! I'm a firm believer in flying first/business, as the perks start in the airport with easier security lines, etc. Plus I justify the cost knowing that I'm earning points mitigating the cost of a future trip, so one needs to factor that into the price. Hope you two bring us along for more vacations! 😎
This was a great video-I appreciate how you noted that no everyone can fly this way, and had nice things to say. Too often, folks who make videos about flying first and business in different airlines just complain. Good on you!
Новый медовый месяц? Это потрясающе! Ты счастлив и счастлива твоя Сандра! Настоящего мужчину выдают глаза счастливой женщины! Ты это сделал, Петтер! Наслажлайтесь друг другом, пока мальчишки и собачки скучают за вами! Ваши глаза светятся независимо от того, в каком классе вы летите! Счастья вам и вашим деткам! Привет питомцам! Рада с вами! 😂❤🌈
One thing I can appreciate about the potential of these Vlogs is the fact that there are the in-depth breakdowns that really give insight on the amenities and design for artistic inspirations.
I felt very uneasy watching this video, given how workers are treated by the state of Qatar. If you want to make videos for wealthy people, go ahead: I’m sure you know what you’re doing. But “hey, if you’ve got loads of money, you get treated well” is kind-of boring and self-evident in the world we live in. Only offering an opinion (or a viewpoint) to you, Petter, because you asked for one, and I have been watching your channel for years, and thank you for absolutely top-drawer informative content!
I really enjoyed this video! You made me remember the almost magical feeling I had the first time my wife and I flew first/business class. What a difference compared to economy class! We really couldn't believe what we were missing out on. Like you said in your video, it really takes the worst part of any trip and makes it so much better. If you can afford it, I recommend it to anyone - even when you don't get the "best" of the best, it's still so much better than economy.
Keep up the great videos and thank you for sharing this part of your trip with us.
I flew from Miami to Kathmandu over Doha with the same airline and I will never forget Himalayas and flaying with QATAR airways. Excellent video and it reminds me of my beautiful experience…Those traveling videos with visiting some places are a good refreshing idea on top of your amazing piloting videos!
Sounds like a wonderful trip! So glad you and your wife were able to get away and enjoy what sounds like a fantastic vacation together! Thanks for this excellent video, would love to see more like it. Overall, I love the Mentour videos and follow you avidly. Keep up the great work!
Another great video, this time as a passenger. This was a good idea and complements well your other types of video such as issues in your industry and accident analyses. I enjoy watching them all.
For my wife and I, often the trip and travel is as enjoyable as the destination. Really enjoyed your perspective and having your wife in the video.
Back in 1956 and 1957 My father's US Navy ship was stationed in Barcelona and we lived there with my brother and I attending a private Spanish Boy's school (paid for by the US Navy since they had no American schools). The city is beautiful, and in the area we lived (along Avenida Diagonal) there were numerous parks, and wide tree lined roads, with circles that had beautiful fountains. Second behind Paris, it is probably the most beautiful city in Europe, at least back then.
Love the details you give from your pilot perspective, so interesting to hear the facts about the aircraft and airports etc. Heading on similar flight path shortly. Really helpful to see this.
When I pressed PLAY I went in with a feeling "Petter, leave this to Sam, mate." But after seeing it all the way through, yes, I think you did a fantastic job of conveying the experience in a way that I can totally appreciate and relate to. Well done.
I'm a big guy, too, and especially for longer flights, I find it absolutely worth springing for business class. The lounge facilities, the expedited boarding (and baggage pick-up), and most of all the space make it hard to face going back to coach!
I flew from Phl to Bangkok…I flew on Qatar will economy and let me tell you between the service, the food and the cleanliness it was unbelievable. I loved it…the flight was 22 hours and we stopped in Doho as well. I was so nice at Doho. Qatar is the best!
Al Baker is a real genius..he knows exactly what even a common traveller wants..txs for a fab video and surprised to see u as a passenger
He famously said that "economy passengers don't notice when you reduce space". Well, I have news for him...my shoulders are wider than his seats.
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In some airports, you can skip queuing for immigration and/or security clearance. I tried that in CMB, CDG and in MLE airports. Staff travellers in some situations are accepted to board the aircraft at the last minute and they need to use the "Airline Staff/Crew" queue. Better to check with the airport staff.
Better and moreover humble and down-to-earth review. A lot better to watch than "Nonstop Dan", who comes across like a hedonistic guy in shorts looking out of place in business class
I appreciate your explanation of the bleed air running the air conditioning in the 787, made it clear now for me why theres a clear difference at the start of the engines.
Like you, I absolutely loved flying in the 787! I was
Shorted out of my business class trip last June due to weather at Newark, which caused me to miss my flight out to Lisbon with United in a 787, and then got rebooked with TAP in an Airbus A320neo [or may have been 321neo, dont recall] which was not too shabby, but not what i paid for originally. Anyway, i need to retry that in the future. But, for my flight back to the US I reserved my seat in the premium economy cabin and that was a much better experience than economy, food was better and the leg room was fantastic. The 787 was a dream to fly in, especially because the plane felt quieter than the 777 and 767.
I flew Qatar in business and loved it. The lounge in Doha is phenomenal and the in-flight service is really quite spectacular.
Flying has changed so much since I was an international traveller in the late '70s, early '80s. I flew business class once on SAA at a time when SAA was a really good airline and it was nice, but nothing like this. Thank you for creating such an interesting channel, I really enjoy it.
I've been a follower of the Mentour Pilot main channel for almost 5 years now but I never knew about this channel. This is awesome, and you do it just as well as your analytical and instructional videos on the other channel. Hitting subscribe here too was a no brainer! Awesome work!
Watching this as a QR A350 pilot myself made me so happy....even more so the last part of the video!
I've been retired 12 years now. Business class in the US was wider seats and better food then. Absolutely nothing like you two experienced.
The cost premium was much less though. My work paid for business class, so you know it wasn't expensive.
Good video. Looking forward to more in this series.
Av geek here. I have watched many other channels and their take on “check out business/first class seats.” As usual, your video was much better. Most of the other channels look more like paid promotions from the airline. Yours was an honest, well presented video.
Not necessarily. Some reviewers are very harsh even in premium cabins.
This is the first Vlog I've listened to. Definitely a winning story format! I truly hope you continue this!
This video was so coool! Happy for you two!! Your excitement and happiness were genuine!
The best conditions I experienced in a airplane were a premium economy seat for a 8h30 transatlantic flight… it was so comfortable! Business class seems amazing! Only a question of money and priorities… I loved the video and how you explained everything. Please, do more! 😊
For families of four, their QSuite quads are perfect. You can open the partitions between the seats and get the feeling that you’re all sitting together around a table. It’s very nice.
As an employee of a company that regularly offers its employees business class, this video reminded me of how special that opportunity is, for others. It is frighteningly out of reach for the ordinary customer because of its steep price but the experience is so wonderful. I have had the privilege of doing this on Emirates, Singapore, Qatar and AirIndia and Emirates takes the cake.
the only caveat I would have with Emirates is that you have to know what plane and route you are flying or you can get the old 2-2-2 configured seats which are no where near the comfort of the 1-2-1! I think only some of their 777s have this quirk of a layout and particularly the Africa and Middle East flights.
It’s nice to see you and your wife get to experience some luxury, especially given this is your industry. Your joy was the best part of this.
Great new segment for your channel ... thank you! I would enjoy more of this! As a long time airline guy in many positions (USA), I really enjoy this kind of view of what is out there in the market!
I think the best thing about you is your details commentary on everything. You have done a brilliant video and you should do tomorrow travelling documentaries Willis, your investigative videos. I always enjoy your channel.
I’ve done three sectors in Q-Suite and one in Qatar’s A380 first class. The Q-Suite was/is better than the first class seat, but the soft product in F was incredible with $200 bottles of wine and quite the most amazing airport lounge I’ve ever been to - felt more like a museum than a lounge.
so nice to see you enjoying things at the back of the plane having given so much to aviation and the flying public peta. your wife is lovely. top marks all round sir. cheers