@@thebootielover Caltrain stations have a little elevated platform where they can use ramps for disabled people, the doors aren’t really that high up, people don’t struggle to get bikes and strollers on the train
Which is ironic because, aside from the literal bells (old tradition, apparently) and whistles, our electric trains are quite silent back in the Northeast.
@@tonytins i believe in Texas theres a Airport train from stadler, base on the FLIRT from Stadler. So you do have european trains there. Just not a lot. But I believe theres more to come
@@Som09mer Of course, they'd be limited to airports. Anyway, a lot of the bells, whistles and dings are inherited from the steam engine days, I discovered. It just kinda stuck after the transitional period.
Sounds like I need to come to San Francisco to take a ride on one of those beautiful things those are so much better than those diesels they take off nice and quick
Normal People: "The train is arriving. please be cautious." US: "DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP!. And even if it is for a train crossing. The crossings have barriers and lights and all. People know a train is comm DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP!
@@TrainTrackTrav Do electric metros/light rails like BART and LA Metro and Vancouver SkyTrain and San Diego MTS also count as EMUs? Or is there a different designation for those? Either way, I would upgrade this to a "very cool." Absolute game changer for the peninsula corridor and everyone who lives along it.
@@teuast Technically they do count as EMUs, but getting an existing main line system electrified is still a different kind of achievement, especially in the US
The only other rail lines right now in the US that use 25kV 60Hz overhead constant tension catenary along with Caltrain are NJ Transit North Jersey Coast Line between Matawan and Long Branch & CT Rail Shore East/Amtrak Northeast Corridor from New Haven, CT to Boston, MA. There's also NJ Transit Morris and Essex Line, Gladstone Branch, and Montclair-Boonton Line east of Montclair State University that uses 25kV 60Hz overhead catenary but they're not constant tension!!!
The Kiss series are nice trains,but I have to agree about the noise. It sounds like something left over from the Wild West. Casey at the throttle of the cannonball express didn’t make as much noise. I’d hate to have an apartment near the station.
I also don't understand why train drivers have to sound their horn all the time at crossings ? In Europe, the horn is used only in case of absolute emergency (people on track, for example). Bells are unknown too, the crossings have their own lights and sounds, that must suffice. Plain noise pollution, makes quiet electric trains pointless.
yeah no wonder why people make noise complaints in the US near railroads, is it really necessary to have bells playing all the time (here in switzerland atleast the crossing bells stop when the gate is down) AND a horn from the train?? also these doors have a sound when opening, why???
Im not sure why the Californian Crossings are so loud. Over here in the Northeast U.S, the bells stop when the gate is down, and there is sometimes a "Quiet Zone" where trains don't honk. As for the bell, California is extremely strict on safety because without it, the states' train and car collision would be detrimental because of drivers who think they could beat the train that's going over 70mph. As for Florida, they don't learn from the countless accidents that happen and end up needing the "loud treatment" just to prevent a collision that is easily avoidable if people just had patience
The amount of noise these make is increadible. Have Americans not learnt that its safer to have only minimal noise and horn usage, otherwise you desensitise people? And so many level crossings and non-level boarding. So many improvements to be made.
I agree that they are really annoying, but bells aren't a thing in Europe, so they designed it with the current, poor excuse for a bell. It's also possible that the bell isn't being muted by the engine noise, so that may also help it.
I think the amount of noise those trains make when nearing a crossing, coming into a station or moving along it. I live in Germany and trains here only blow their horn if the come to a crossing without active protection. I think many people would be much more in favour of trains in the US if the could one of their biggest potential to the full extent: trains can be enormously quiet (if electric and allowed to)
Taitset has a really good video on his channel about the train horn use in Melbourne and has very valid arguments for getting rid of most horn and bell activities
Hopefully when Cahsr arrives they will allow for the 110 max speed of these things to be utilized on Caltrain. Imagine an express service from San Jose - San Francisco in roughly 40-45 minutes. Faster than driving on most days!
Absolutely, they can run at those speeds. And hopefully they will consider quad tracking it entirely to avoid disruptions and remove the last two stations with ‘walking’ platforms with newer ones.
@@JPBX904 College Park and Broadway specifically, correct. Can’t do anything with Atherton, except follow their quota on quad gates at railroad crossings. However its most certain they will consider an island platform for Broadway just like they did for Hillsdale. I’m not sure about what they decided for College Park since its been left in the dark.
i was at the 2nd day of the launch party event here. Luckily, I got a free print donated by the Burlingame Historical Society, and Studio Shop Gallery. Then I headed over to the old-school donut shop, owned by fellow Cantonese, across the street, and let the action unfolded in front of my eyes. Those fellows gave out swags started packing up probably 20 minutes after they unpacked🤞. While I was munching my Banh Mi, all my vivid memories of commuting to San Mateo with my bikes before 2020 hits me🤭. I purposely took the bike cars ONLY (Millbrae for the museum, San Bruno for the popsicles, Burlingame for testing my horoscope, and of course, San Mateo for the raffle of the wishful-thinking HO scale train kit🤣!!) My ride in the bike car an hour before the final event ended, was in such a apocalypse mode!! LOVE IT🥳!! Good luck, CalTrain!! Hope you survive!!
@@bahnspotterEU What do you mean pretending? It WAS much different before. I can tell from your username that you are not local to the Bay Area, but I and many other railfans grew up with these trains, and it's very sad to see them go. On the question of variety, I agree that it may not have been the best, but it's still better than homogenous EMUs.
Awesome to see sleek faster modern electric trains on the west coast. Hope the rest of the continent follows suit. On the other hand, all that noise is beyond obnoxious. Especially at night when people are sleeping. By all means get rid of at grade crossings, but in the meantime, people ought to take some responsibility to not be going out in front of moving trains.
The horns on the new Stadler KISS train sets just sound annoying. How about installing horns that sound like the Nathan P3 or Nathan K3H but at a lower volume?
How about changing regulations to a sane level of horn usage. All that noise just desensitizes people... Over here in Europe the horn is only used at unprotected crossings (and not even there, if visibility is good enough), and trains have no bell or flashing headlights at all - yet somehow we have fewer rail accidents.
Looks like you can't press a button to enter the train. So the conductor opens all doors at every stop but in the footage some doors are still closed, why?
There is still the end of the line, that is not electrified. There they will be using the diesel trains for some time, until they replace it with a battery-electric train. (Runs only on weekends) Also, the trains and carriages probably will be used on other lines or sold to other companies. So it's not too late for you
Each train running off one pantograph? I assumed two or three would have been used on each train. That's great, less maintenance, less parts that need to be constantly replaced.
There's two pantographs per trainset, one on each of the bike cars. Only having one of them raised is actually pretty normal in most parts of Europe, and these KISSes are a European design.
The pantograph is normally raised all the way in the back. That way if the train power lines snag and or break including the rear pantograph going with it, then the front pantograph can be raised to complete the final journey.
The catenary wire has its own resonance frequency corresponding to a max speed, the pantograph pushes the wire up and creates an oscillation during the movement; more pantographs are raised, more oscillations on the wire that may generate micro-detachements that affect power electronic operation and flashes that wear the wire
Wow! An electric train! To praise this as a wonder in 2024 is another proof the US never was the world's greatest nation. And yes,, Stadler is a Swiss company.
It kinda is, the only thing that’s not the same is the schedule, Local Serving all day and Limited Not Serving midday and the Baby Bullet now “Express” service starting earlier
American rail infrastructure is like 50 years behind. This is a nice small step in the right direction. But it will take them at least to the end of the century to have even the most basic transit.
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How do passengers with walkers, wheelchairs, bikes, and strollers get on the damn train?
@@thebootielover Caltrain stations have a little elevated platform where they can use ramps for disabled people, the doors aren’t really that high up, people don’t struggle to get bikes and strollers on the train
It all starts anew, the long awaited electric journey begins after seven years of waiting. Well done to Caltrain!
How do passengers with walkers, wheelchairs, bikes, and strollers get on the damn train?
@@thebootielover ramps are included on station platforms as far as I am aware.
7 years? The push for electrification started in 1992.
@@lohphat Only counting the years of construction, not planning.
What baffeles me as an european, is the ammount of noise that is heard with these quiet electric trains (bell, whisles, dings).
Which is ironic because, aside from the literal bells (old tradition, apparently) and whistles, our electric trains are quite silent back in the Northeast.
@@tonytins I meant the bells, whisles, dings
@@Som09mer Fair enough. xD We've never had a true European train here, at least not to this extent. Amtrak is usually very picky with its orders.
@@tonytins i believe in Texas theres a Airport train from stadler, base on the FLIRT from Stadler.
So you do have european trains there. Just not a lot.
But I believe theres more to come
@@Som09mer Of course, they'd be limited to airports. Anyway, a lot of the bells, whistles and dings are inherited from the steam engine days, I discovered. It just kinda stuck after the transitional period.
Sounds like I need to come to San Francisco to take a ride on one of those beautiful things those are so much better than those diesels they take off nice and quick
Absolutely!
As a European I’d get stressed out about the noise, can’t it just pull in and do its thing??
Normal People: "The train is arriving. please be cautious."
US: "DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP!.
And even if it is for a train crossing. The crossings have barriers and lights and all. People know a train is comm DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! MÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖP!
Dam TSW 5 looking hella realistic nowadays 😂
That'll be $40 for the route remaster and train each
These new trains can really move. I'm very excited to board one soon.
EMUS WEST OF CHICAGO!!!! THIS IS WHAT WE’VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!!!
Denver has EMUs that run for RTD, just sayin'. Still kinda cool though.
@@TrainTrackTrav Completely forgot about that 🤦🏻♂️
@@TrainTrackTrav Do electric metros/light rails like BART and LA Metro and Vancouver SkyTrain and San Diego MTS also count as EMUs? Or is there a different designation for those?
Either way, I would upgrade this to a "very cool." Absolute game changer for the peninsula corridor and everyone who lives along it.
@@teuast Technically they do count as EMUs, but getting an existing main line system electrified is still a different kind of achievement, especially in the US
Best commuter rail in the U.S 🗣️
The only other rail lines right now in the US that use 25kV 60Hz overhead constant tension catenary along with Caltrain are NJ Transit North Jersey Coast Line between Matawan and Long Branch & CT Rail Shore East/Amtrak Northeast Corridor from New Haven, CT to Boston, MA. There's also NJ Transit Morris and Essex Line, Gladstone Branch, and Montclair-Boonton Line east of Montclair State University that uses 25kV 60Hz overhead catenary but they're not constant tension!!!
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The Kiss series are nice trains,but I have to agree about the noise. It sounds like something left over from the Wild West. Casey at the throttle of the cannonball express didn’t make as much noise.
I’d hate to have an apartment near the station.
All this bullshit noise drives me insane... Thank goodness trains are quiet in Europe...
Don‘t worry, your annoying mouth is compensating for the lack of horns and bells.
@@VieleGuteFahrer Your lack of a brain is a disappointment.
@@VieleGuteFahrer I mean, he has a point. Maybe people in the US wouldn't hate trains so much if they weren't so obnoxiously loud for no reason.
I also don't understand why train drivers have to sound their horn all the time at crossings ? In Europe, the horn is used only in case of absolute emergency (people on track, for example). Bells are unknown too, the crossings have their own lights and sounds, that must suffice. Plain noise pollution, makes quiet electric trains pointless.
@@andrewlalis Do you think that people in Europe who live nearby railroad tracks don’t complain about the noise anyway?
Trains are so annoyingly loud in the US its actually insane
Blame the dumb drivers that don't understand patients and end up getting hit by a train thats wayyyy too heavy to stop like a car
@@POSSEPIED natural selection
yeah no wonder why people make noise complaints in the US near railroads, is it really necessary to have bells playing all the time (here in switzerland atleast the crossing bells stop when the gate is down) AND a horn from the train?? also these doors have a sound when opening, why???
Im not sure why the Californian Crossings are so loud. Over here in the Northeast U.S, the bells stop when the gate is down, and there is sometimes a "Quiet Zone" where trains don't honk. As for the bell, California is extremely strict on safety because without it, the states' train and car collision would be detrimental because of drivers who think they could beat the train that's going over 70mph.
As for Florida, they don't learn from the countless accidents that happen and end up needing the "loud treatment" just to prevent a collision that is easily avoidable if people just had patience
The amount of noise these make is increadible. Have Americans not learnt that its safer to have only minimal noise and horn usage, otherwise you desensitise people?
And so many level crossings and non-level boarding. So many improvements to be made.
When CaHSR gets built, there will be high floor platforms, and hopefully more grade separation
America puts cars before trains which explain why there is so many railroad crossings, and no money to level these roads
Is this concert of bells necessary at every station?
I agree that they are really annoying, but bells aren't a thing in Europe, so they designed it with the current, poor excuse for a bell. It's also possible that the bell isn't being muted by the engine noise, so that may also help it.
I think the amount of noise those trains make when nearing a crossing, coming into a station or moving along it. I live in Germany and trains here only blow their horn if the come to a crossing without active protection. I think many people would be much more in favour of trains in the US if the could one of their biggest potential to the full extent: trains can be enormously quiet (if electric and allowed to)
Taitset has a really good video on his channel about the train horn use in Melbourne and has very valid arguments for getting rid of most horn and bell activities
Yes. They are. They are mandated by the federal government for safety reasons
@@cameronmuhic5735 the rest of the world doesn't have this, and it's fine. Y'all have the regulation we had back in the 19th century. Time to improve
They are so nice i love these emu’s
Hopefully when Cahsr arrives they will allow for the 110 max speed of these things to be utilized on Caltrain. Imagine an express service from San Jose - San Francisco in roughly 40-45 minutes. Faster than driving on most days!
Absolutely, they can run at those speeds. And hopefully they will consider quad tracking it entirely to avoid disruptions and remove the last two stations with ‘walking’ platforms with newer ones.
@@commodoresbank Atherton's closed, and Broadway will probably get side platforms to eliminate the holdout rule.
@@TheLewistownTrainspotter8102 i think they were referring to College Park, even though that gets like two trains a day lol
They said they were supposed to do that. It’s already in the environmental report.
@@JPBX904 College Park and Broadway specifically, correct.
Can’t do anything with Atherton, except follow their quota on quad gates at railroad crossings. However its most certain they will consider an island platform for Broadway just like they did for Hillsdale. I’m not sure about what they decided for College Park since its been left in the dark.
Good shots of Caltrain awesome 👏
I like how 80% of the comments are people complaining how "loud" the trains are
i was at the 2nd day of the launch party event here. Luckily, I got a free print donated by the Burlingame Historical Society, and Studio Shop Gallery. Then I headed over to the old-school donut shop, owned by fellow Cantonese, across the street, and let the action unfolded in front of my eyes. Those fellows gave out swags started packing up probably 20 minutes after they unpacked🤞. While I was munching my Banh Mi, all my vivid memories of commuting to San Mateo with my bikes before 2020 hits me🤭. I purposely took the bike cars ONLY (Millbrae for the museum, San Bruno for the popsicles, Burlingame for testing my horoscope, and of course, San Mateo for the raffle of the wishful-thinking HO scale train kit🤣!!) My ride in the bike car an hour before the final event ended, was in such a apocalypse mode!! LOVE IT🥳!! Good luck, CalTrain!! Hope you survive!!
I really love stalder trains
Excellent video! Kudos!
So much noise
Great footage
Beautiful new electric trains.....NIIIIICE VIDEO..someday this video will be VERY highly sought after !!! GOOD JOB !!!!!!!
Sweet video!
11:50, bless you, random person
Tons of variety.
Ah yes, you don't know if your train will be a Stadler KISS, or a Stadler KISS. 🤣
Stop pretending it was much different before. You go from two locomotives and car types to one. Big deal.
@@bahnspotterEU it is what it is
@@bahnspotterEU What do you mean pretending? It WAS much different before. I can tell from your username that you are not local to the Bay Area, but I and many other railfans grew up with these trains, and it's very sad to see them go. On the question of variety, I agree that it may not have been the best, but it's still better than homogenous EMUs.
@@JPBX904 Bro in europe we have so many different EMU's and we don't get hearing loss from all the useless bells and horns
4:51 damn they really accelerate like a rocket!! Impressive that they only need one pantograph
that's normal
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Nice shot of the moon!
What is that noise I keep hearing in all of these videos, like a radio handset being keyed. A two tone sound at 8:14
It’s the clipper card machines
Awesome to see sleek faster modern electric trains on the west coast. Hope the rest of the continent follows suit.
On the other hand, all that noise is beyond obnoxious. Especially at night when people are sleeping. By all means get rid of at grade crossings, but in the meantime, people ought to take some responsibility to not be going out in front of moving trains.
Miss the days of the sound of S.P. five and six chime steam whistles coming south into Burlingame.
Here's to a great electric era at Caltrain! Btw Baby Bullet is now just called Express.
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fucking hell man, i've heard literal brass orchesstras being less loud
Well this day certainly did not turn out as anticipated...
The horns on the new Stadler KISS train sets just sound annoying. How about installing horns that sound like the Nathan P3 or Nathan K3H but at a lower volume?
How about changing regulations to a sane level of horn usage. All that noise just desensitizes people...
Over here in Europe the horn is only used at unprotected crossings (and not even there, if visibility is good enough), and trains have no bell or flashing headlights at all - yet somehow we have fewer rail accidents.
@@stephanweinberger You need to think that Americans aren't that smart.
Looks like you can't press a button to enter the train. So the conductor opens all doors at every stop but in the footage some doors are still closed, why?
uhh timestamp because every doors are open on the entire set
@@voidjavelin23 6:38
@@lecho0175 might be failed
Like i dit not knew they eletrickfine the hole San Francisco railroad
Electrified you Mean?
Lovely trainset, but rush??
I’m just sad that I haven’t gotten to ride the old diesel trains
There is still the end of the line, that is not electrified. There they will be using the diesel trains for some time, until they replace it with a battery-electric train. (Runs only on weekends)
Also, the trains and carriages probably will be used on other lines or sold to other companies.
So it's not too late for you
Each train running off one pantograph? I assumed two or three would have been used on each train. That's great, less maintenance, less parts that need to be constantly replaced.
There's two pantographs per trainset, one on each of the bike cars.
Only having one of them raised is actually pretty normal in most parts of Europe, and these KISSes are a European design.
I think another reason why only one pantograph is used is because they probably want to keep wear and tear on the catenary wires to a very minimal!!
The pantograph is normally raised all the way in the back. That way if the train power lines snag and or break including the rear pantograph going with it, then the front pantograph can be raised to complete the final journey.
The catenary wire has its own resonance frequency corresponding to a max speed, the pantograph pushes the wire up and creates an oscillation during the movement; more pantographs are raised, more oscillations on the wire that may generate micro-detachements that affect power electronic operation and flashes that wear the wire
@@Lam33510 That's resonant frequency of 60Hz, right?
I heard they will go 110 mph but it looks like it is going 79 mph when will they go 110 mph
I think I heard when that California bullet train gets built, they’ll redo the tracks to make them safe for trains to run at faster speed
So your saying that they will go 110 mph when chsra enters service
@@Whiterose11476that is so cool! But on the other hand it wont be built during my lifetime 😢
so when CAHSR enters SF? in 20-30 years?
Finally, no more ugly looking trains!
What all the noise pollution, that’s so sicko!
America, proudly making people hate trains. The noise, omg the noise!
I can't stand that horn.
do you like your job
Time to grade separate.
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Wow! An electric train! To praise this as a wonder in 2024 is another proof the US never was the world's greatest nation. And yes,, Stadler is a Swiss company.
America used to make Electric Trains
It’s not the same anymore 😢
It kinda is, the only thing that’s not the same is the schedule, Local Serving all day and Limited Not Serving midday and the Baby Bullet now “Express” service starting earlier
@@sixfifty_sebbyeah, I mainly meant in regards of the trains
@@Whiterose11476your not alone I miss those old trains
@@marcocampos2332at least you still have them on the Gilroy line
Trains in Europe don't have all the noise yet ate way safer
American rail infrastructure is like 50 years behind. This is a nice small step in the right direction. But it will take them at least to the end of the century to have even the most basic transit.