It's a shame the motor is bad but it was still great to see it torn down and diagnosed to see what the problem is. Thanks for taking the time to share this with everyone.
Everything I know is from mistakes... sorry I'm late...honestly I got so wrapped up making mistakes on the lathe yesterday, I forgot you were posting this bonus video... I'm caught back up now.. smart idea cutting the cord! Thank ya for your time Mr. John!
I didn't think the motor would run after seeing the winding burnt up like that. Very helpful video. I always learn something from you. It was nice to see an extra video this week too, thank you.
Thanks for the Tuesday video! There are some parts worth saving off that motor so not a total loss. That oak board you salvaged from the roll top desk will look good under a nice motor too.
A friend gave me combination belt/disc sander. He said the capacitor was replaced, but that the replacement capacitor had died. As you know, this meant the motor did not rotate, just hummed until the shaft was moved then it ran fine. I purchased a new capacitor and it now runs. Just another example of how a motor can fail, but in this case an inexpensive fix. Too bad the starter circuit does not shut off. As you said, good that you caught this before it overheated. Dave.
I look forward to your videos every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Truly made my day when I saw you put one out today! Another great tutorial and great entertainment. Thanks for all you do.
Every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new and useful. Your generosity in creating these videos and graciously posting them here is very much appreciated!
Great video 👍 Loved seeing another motor tear down. Great information on what to look out for when you have a suspected bad motor. Did those windings give off that electrical burnt smell when you pulled it open? You are right you take a chance when find or you buy motors like that. But I still like to take them apart and to see if it can be serviced or what actually went wrong with it. Well maybe you can save some of the parts if you run into another one just like that one. You might find one on the Poor Mans Flea Market 😂👍👍. Speaking of the Poor Mans Flea Market, what a fantastic find of all those drill bits made by Whitman and Barnes,looks like all great quality USA 🇺🇸 drill bits,again fantastic find. Great shot of Old Glory 🇺🇸 blowing in breeze. Well again great video and can’t wait to see what you do tomorrow. Have a fantastic evening! 😃👍👍
I had a motor repair company that told me most of the time it was cheaper to purchase a new motor that repair them. That is the more modern motors. He loved the older ones.
I suspect the inertial switch failed to work and the heavy starting current was left applied to the heavy starting windings. The excessive current flow burned out the windings. It is probably running on the starter windings. Thanks John.
I think we have all bought something that we end up using for parts 😂. However it was a great show and I did learn something. Thank You for sharing John!
Was just looking for tear down, found a bearing issue, but I enjoyed your video. If I ever start doing videos I will need to find the hand on a stick. Very helpful and cute.
Great extra credit video. Would be interested to measure the windings with a meter and see if you can measure to demonstrate the issue. Thanks for the extra enjoyment. Best Regards, John
When the cord is damaged and I have to remove it, and the plug is a moulded one, I usually bend the pins of the plug before I throw it away. So the plug won't fit into a socket outlet anymore. It prevents that, in the worst case ,a kid finds it and out of curiousity plugs it into a socket outlet and gets shocked by the open end.
Thank you so much. You just saved me a lot of time and headache trying to replace bearings on a dead motor. OMG this thing has been running continuously for a while. It’s a miracle my garage didn’t burn down but I always had a fan blowing on the motor because duh it always ran hot. It’s almost this same exact model and used to run a Lortone rock tumbler with three 12 lb barrels.
Awesome info and now I don't feel so bad letting the service guy take away my motor after one of the appliances failed. Per one of your previous vid's I bought the book "Basics of Fractional Horsepower Motors and Repair" by Gerald Schweitzer. Had to wait for a few months because when you mention something the price spikes.
My grandparents had this identical type motor on their downdraft gas furnace blower assembly. I serviced it for 30+yrs before I moved to FL & the younger grandkids took over that duty.
In no way, a fail. An all round success, in my mind. So it couldn't be made to work but thats not a fail, its what all your effort was for; determining the viability of a machine. Cheers John.
Love the bonus episode,it was unfortunate about the windings,however I wouldn't consider a failure. If you don't check things like that a bigger problem emerges then you could lose more than your $10, thanks again.
I set my clock by ScoutCrafter. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. My system is upset now! A TUESDAY...FAIL!?! It will take a Wednesday, Friday, Monday to recover! We had a ton of electric motors when we farmed. And I didn't know beans about much of anything back then. I remember helping replace one or two, usually in the dead of winter on a ladder working at the end of an elevator. The end outside. These motor vids are interesting.
This must be us on the same wavelength! Toots wants a hand mower she can start so she can trim. I have a 2010 Troy-bilt with electric start. Got the electric start working fine BUT after the mower starts, it won't restart till it sits a bit.THEN you have to lay the ether to it because the primer don't work. I'd cut the cord but it goes to the charger for the battery. See, you're not by yourself, Johnny! God Bless!
I tore apart one of those newer washing machine motors just to see what makes it tick and save a few parts including the shaft, round stock is always handy. Those are not made to be serviced, they seem to be spot welded and made to never come apart just replaced.
I have a grinder motor wih a similar problem. MIne has a starter relay that shuts off the starting winding once it reaches a set speed. The relay burned out and I can't find a new one. I could put a manual switch in the control circuit to shut off the starting winding. Not sure if it is worth the trouble. 😁😁😎😎
It’s a good thing you had that meter on that motor while testing, just think if someone didn’t know what they were doing. Holy cow. Catastrophic!! Fun Tuesday!
Very nice video. I have a quite old 1 HP 115/230 VAC Dayton "Power Capacitor Motor" from my dad's Craftsman table saw, but it does not have an external capacitor. It has an integral power switch, but was modified to be turned On/Off by an external switch. I found that there is a 110 V potential from the saw frame to earth ground which makes it quite a hazard. The model is KS 73 BT-217, but have searched to no end to get its specs. I want to remove the end housing where the wiring is located to try to determine the source of the short. Any suggestions/comments are welcomed. Thanks in advance. Roger B
FYI- today kinda SUUUUUUUUCKED until I got a notice that you ,OBI WON, just published a new video!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! This makes me as happy as a tornado in a trailer park!!!!!!!
That was a win win. You got to check it out and got a parts motor too. For a second I thought that was nice of the manufacturer to color code the winding 😂
Can you check the draw of amperage where the power cord hooks up on the motor? Using your voltage meter ? I think mine has an amp measurement on it .?? But is there a way to check if you don’t have that measurement tool you have John.
Speaking of fails, I saw a video yesterday from the UK where a guy wanted to restore an air compressor. The tank had so much rust inside, that when he cleaned out the rust, there was a hole in the tank side! =(
@@kevinbreckenridge6729 I saw a picture of a fuel pump that a customer installed themselves in a fuel tank. They must have left the plastic bag on, that is placed over the pump at the factory. Brilliant! Video: Start @ 1 min. 12 seconds to see the pump. ruclips.net/video/IeB0EZmxT8M/видео.html
You didn't fail - it was just a burned out motor - not your fault. I find the best source of great motors are when a neighbor or relative tosses out an old washing machine. I've never had a washer motor go bad, it's usually the electronics or control panel. I have motors from old washers that I have been using for 35-40 years and still going strong. I do agree with you - if the cord is missing or cut - PASS!
I don't know much about motors but would appreciate your advice... I would like to get a 1/4 hp motor for continuous use. I would be running this motor all day, everyday for long time. I'm making a rock tumbler & using it to tumble rocks. This will be running for weeks at a time 24 hour a day. I don't know if I need a single phase motor. Or if there are motors with built in fans within the motor to keep it cool? I heard Dayton or Marathon motors are good. Any advice Or input on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 😎
I bought a megometer to test the insulation on electric motors. I bought it specifically for flea market motor shopping....it sounded like a great idea at the time, but i never really trusted the readings. Cheers
When I come across a bad motor, it goes into the recycle barrel. All useable parts I keep. My two young daughters collect all the recycling money. We can’t save them all. Thank You
Great John , nice to show the fails , and you do indeed learn from them . I've never had luck tearing them down , always very fragile inside not like yours !! I don't bother with motors any more , only ever managed to fix one , that's because I knew before hand it was a capacitor so was a simple change . Gotta laugh everytime you say bellends ... Really don't fancy a glancing blow with a hammer on the bellend ....
By major coincidence someone will throw out a motor for the poors mans fleamarket with a cracked housing or bent shaft or something this week. We can only hope😄
If you find any electrical device with the cord cut it means ScoutCrafter has been there before you. LOL.
Thats a Huge Thumbs up and your 100% correct
It's a shame the motor is bad but it was still great to see it torn down and diagnosed to see what the problem is. Thanks for taking the time to share this with everyone.
Everything I know is from mistakes... sorry I'm late...honestly I got so wrapped up making mistakes on the lathe yesterday, I forgot you were posting this bonus video... I'm caught back up now.. smart idea cutting the cord! Thank ya for your time Mr. John!
I didn't think the motor would run after seeing the winding burnt up like that. Very helpful video. I always learn something from you. It was nice to see an extra video this week too, thank you.
Thanks for the Tuesday video! There are some parts worth saving off that motor so not a total loss. That oak board you salvaged from the roll top desk will look good under a nice motor too.
I found this video very informative as I am about to tear down my own electric motor. Thanks for the video!!
Well done. Always nice getting an extra video!!
A friend gave me combination belt/disc sander. He said the capacitor was replaced, but that the replacement capacitor had died. As you know, this meant the motor did not rotate, just hummed until the shaft was moved then it ran fine.
I purchased a new capacitor and it now runs. Just another example of how a motor can fail, but in this case an inexpensive fix.
Too bad the starter circuit does not shut off. As you said, good that you caught this before it overheated.
Dave.
I look forward to your videos every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Truly made my day when I saw you put one out today! Another great tutorial and great entertainment. Thanks for all you do.
Every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new and useful. Your generosity in creating these videos and graciously posting them here is very much appreciated!
Scoutcrafter does a Teardown Tuesday! Tremendous!
Another great learning video. Thanks again!
Great video 👍 Loved seeing another motor tear down. Great information on what to look out for when you have a suspected bad motor. Did those windings give off that electrical burnt smell when you pulled it open? You are right you take a chance when find or you buy motors like that. But I still like to take them apart and to see if it can be serviced or what actually went wrong with it. Well maybe you can save some of the parts if you run into another one just like that one. You might find one on the Poor Mans Flea Market 😂👍👍. Speaking of the Poor Mans Flea Market, what a fantastic find of all those drill bits made by Whitman and Barnes,looks like all great quality USA 🇺🇸 drill bits,again fantastic find. Great shot of Old Glory 🇺🇸 blowing in breeze. Well again great video and can’t wait to see what you do tomorrow. Have a fantastic evening! 😃👍👍
Steven- Surprisingly there was no burnt smell on this motor! I always check for that. 😂👍
Brilliant Mate!! Ya gotta love a good smoke test eh!!☻
Thanks for the special edition video. Definitely learned something from it.
I had a motor repair company that told me most of the time it was cheaper to purchase a new motor that repair them. That is the more modern motors. He loved the older ones.
I suspect the inertial switch failed to work and the heavy starting current was left applied to the heavy starting windings. The excessive current flow burned out the windings. It is probably running on the starter windings. Thanks John.
Nice job John,
Nice treat, a Tuesday upload. Brightens my day.
I think we have all bought something that we end up using for parts 😂. However it was a great show and I did learn something. Thank You for sharing John!
Was just looking for tear down, found a bearing issue, but I enjoyed your video. If I ever start doing videos I will need to find the hand on a stick. Very helpful and cute.
Great extra credit video. Would be interested to measure the windings with a meter and see if you can measure to demonstrate the issue. Thanks for the extra enjoyment.
Best Regards,
John
Very informative video, as usual! Have learned a lot from you over the last few years, thank you!
Appreciate an extra video this week. Today is my birthday so it was a great way to celebrate
When the cord is damaged and I have to remove it, and the plug is a moulded one, I usually bend the pins of the plug before I throw it away. So the plug won't fit into a socket outlet anymore. It prevents that, in the worst case ,a kid finds it and out of curiousity plugs it into a socket outlet and gets shocked by the open end.
This was a great surprise! I'm glad to see an extra video! Have a great night !
Thank you so much. You just saved me a lot of time and headache trying to replace bearings on a dead motor. OMG this thing has been running continuously for a while. It’s a miracle my garage didn’t burn down but I always had a fan blowing on the motor because duh it always ran hot. It’s almost this same exact model and used to run a Lortone rock tumbler with three 12 lb barrels.
Awesome info and now I don't feel so bad letting the service guy take away my motor after one of the appliances failed. Per one of your previous vid's I bought the book "Basics of Fractional Horsepower Motors and Repair" by Gerald Schweitzer. Had to wait for a few months because when you mention something the price spikes.
hey John, what a special treat. tks Mimmo
Another great lesson 👍 and on a Tuesday too wow 🤩
My grandparents had this identical type motor on their downdraft gas furnace blower assembly.
I serviced it for 30+yrs before I moved to FL & the younger grandkids took over that duty.
Another great video. I found the disassembly of the motor very interesting.
In no way, a fail. An all round success, in my mind. So it couldn't be made to work but thats not a fail, its what all your effort was for; determining the viability of a machine. Cheers John.
Good tutorial on electric motors sir, I like it. Thanks for the video.
Good Explanation Scout . It Does Show You Can't Win Them All. Looking Forward to Tomorrow.
WOW - BEAUTIFUL BLUE SKY ON THE ISLAND.
Sorry this motor didn’t work out, but it was very educational to see. Thanks for the special edition! 👍
Love the bonus episode,it was unfortunate about the windings,however I wouldn't consider a failure. If you don't check things like that a bigger problem emerges then you could lose more than your $10, thanks again.
Whoa! I got worried when I saw your video pop up on a Tuesday 😂. I thought something was wrong. Glad you're OK!
I set my clock by ScoutCrafter. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. My system is upset now! A TUESDAY...FAIL!?! It will take a Wednesday, Friday, Monday to recover!
We had a ton of electric motors when we farmed. And I didn't know beans about much of anything back then. I remember helping replace one or two, usually in the dead of winter on a ladder working at the end of an elevator. The end outside. These motor vids are interesting.
Once again I learned something from your great videos thanks
You are a great teacher. Thank you.
This must be us on the same wavelength! Toots wants a hand mower she can start so she can trim. I have a 2010 Troy-bilt with electric start. Got the electric start working fine BUT after the mower starts, it won't restart till it sits a bit.THEN you have to lay the ether to it because the primer don't work. I'd cut the cord but it goes to the charger for the battery. See, you're not by yourself, Johnny! God Bless!
I tore apart one of those newer washing machine motors just to see what makes it tick and save a few parts including the shaft, round stock is always handy. Those are not made to be serviced, they seem to be spot welded and made to never come apart just replaced.
Every time I watch I learn a little something. Thanks!
I have a grinder motor wih a similar problem.
MIne has a starter relay that shuts off the starting winding once it reaches a set speed. The relay burned out and I can't find a new one. I could put a manual switch in the control circuit to shut off the starting winding. Not sure if it is worth the trouble. 😁😁😎😎
Thanks John. We all needed this. Jim
Always learning something new. Thanks.
It’s a good thing you had that meter on that motor while testing, just think if someone didn’t know what they were doing. Holy cow. Catastrophic!! Fun Tuesday!
Very nice video. I have a quite old 1 HP 115/230 VAC Dayton "Power Capacitor Motor" from my dad's Craftsman table saw, but it does not have an external capacitor. It has an integral power switch, but was modified to be turned On/Off by an external switch.
I found that there is a 110 V potential from the saw frame to earth ground which makes it quite a hazard.
The model is KS 73 BT-217, but have searched to no end to get its specs. I want to remove the end housing where the wiring is located to try to determine the source of the short.
Any suggestions/comments are welcomed. Thanks in advance.
Roger B
Great bonus episode!
Great video. Great information .👍👍❤...
FYI- today kinda SUUUUUUUUCKED until I got a notice that you ,OBI WON, just published a new video!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!! This makes me as happy as a tornado in a trailer park!!!!!!!
Thanks for this John, useful to know !
Thanks for sharing this, just learning myself.
Me too! 😃👍
That was a win win. You got to check it out and got a parts motor too. For a second I thought that was nice of the manufacturer to color code the winding 😂
😂. Yes! A dark blue primary would be a nice contrast. I can’t believe this motor had no smell of burning wire. 🤔😃👍
Good video and very informative. Thanks
Wow a special ScoutCrafter video. Let’s get right to it!
Can you check the draw of amperage where the power cord hooks up on the motor? Using your voltage meter ? I think mine has an amp measurement on it .?? But is there a way to check if you don’t have that measurement tool you have John.
Hook! Yes there is, I will cover it soon. 😃👍
Great video SC!!!!!!!
Wow, that is some really good information!
Speaking of fails, I saw a video yesterday from the UK where a guy wanted to restore an air compressor. The tank had so much rust inside, that when he cleaned out the rust, there was a hole in the tank side! =(
Did that with a fuel tank. I told the boss, "if it's not broken don't fix it, fuel filters are cheap" ...he didn't listen!
@@kevinbreckenridge6729 I saw a picture of a fuel pump that a customer installed themselves in a fuel tank. They must have left the plastic bag on, that is placed over the pump at the factory. Brilliant!
Video: Start @ 1 min. 12 seconds to see the pump. ruclips.net/video/IeB0EZmxT8M/видео.html
You didn't fail - it was just a burned out motor - not your fault. I find the best source of great motors are when a neighbor or relative tosses out an old washing machine. I've never had a washer motor go bad, it's usually the electronics or control panel. I have motors from old washers that I have been using for 35-40 years and still going strong. I do agree with you - if the cord is missing or cut - PASS!
I don't know much about motors but would appreciate your advice...
I would like to get a 1/4 hp motor for continuous use. I would be running this motor all day, everyday for long time. I'm making a rock tumbler & using it to tumble rocks. This will be running for weeks at a time 24 hour a day. I don't know if I need a single phase motor. Or if there are motors with built in fans within the motor to keep it cool? I heard Dayton or Marathon motors are good. Any advice
Or input on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 😎
I bought a megometer to test the insulation on electric motors. I bought it specifically for flea market motor shopping....it sounded like a great idea at the time, but i never really trusted the readings. Cheers
😂. Same here! Those readings can be all over the place. 😃👍
Worth a try, thanks for showing it to us. Oh, well.
When I come across a bad motor, it goes into the recycle barrel. All useable parts I keep. My two young daughters collect all the recycling money. We can’t save them all. Thank You
Jess- The stands come in handy. 😃👍
I think you need to do a megging on these motors and cords
Would have loved to see a rewinding of the burned coil to make it useable again.
I always initial it NFG to save somebody else from the headache I experienced. 😂
A good sniff with the nose will often tell if the windings are toast. Start windings and run windings.
Yes! I always sniff a motor before buying and did this one too but it had no burnt smell whatsoever! It got me good! 😂👍
what did you use to see how much amperage it was drawing?
It’s a small devise called a Kill-a-watt I will demonstrate it this week. 😃👍
Kill-A-Watt Meter, they display watts, amps, voltage and such. About $30 or so.
A Tuesday video?! My weeks been improved!
Was nice to see a fail I always say you learn more from your mistakes than your successes
Love it god bless take care 👍🙏🦅🇺🇸🗽🇳🇿🪖
I love that pointer
Unlike DC motors the field Coils easier to remove and replace its a good parts motor
Great John , nice to show the fails , and you do indeed learn from them . I've never had luck tearing them down , always very fragile inside not like yours !! I don't bother with motors any more , only ever managed to fix one , that's because I knew before hand it was a capacitor so was a simple change . Gotta laugh everytime you say bellends ... Really don't fancy a glancing blow with a hammer on the bellend ....
Hello what does this motor do?
Interesting fail 🛠👍😊
1/3 hp motor, but 115v x 6.6 amps should be almost 1 hp? I must be missing something.
We get extra content!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Bell-end plus mallet??????😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
.SOME NEED A LITTLE MORE FINE TUNING THAN OTHERS..LOL..GOOD ONE, KEEP WELL...
It's thermally protected, so at some point the thermal should open and shut down the motor.
I thought it was Wednesday for a second
Me too...I was thinking where is the Monday
Gotcha watching
That was burnt worse than a Friar’s Club Roast.😜🤪
No one can be 100% lucky all the time.
By major coincidence someone will throw out a motor for the poors mans fleamarket with a cracked housing or bent shaft or something this week. We can only hope😄
Even though you are "the cord cutter" I agree, electric issue, cut the cord. Mechanical issue, maybe somebody else can figure it out.
Haii❤
You can always learn from a failure.
Next up ---- Kilowatt Meters
What the Heck..!!😂😅
Very interesting but too bad.
Japonlar teknolojik alanda gerçekten harika. Tanıtımınız için teşeklürler.
If electric motors require oil, does that mean you need to take an EV car to get its oil changed?
Why is your hand so small and why does it look plastic? Why does your arm look wooden?