Working Top-Down: Fitting out the Roof Rack & Concept Products Behind-The-Scenes
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- With tear down and a thorough detail, the KAON Prado is ready for it's rebuild. First things first, let's start with one of the first places many 4X4 owners do, and that's on the roof.
In this episode, we'll also take you behind the scenes on developing a couple of concept products specifically designed for the build that we might bring to market in time as well.
Learn more at www.kaon.com.au
Wow! I'm really excited about the upcoming rear window mount you guys are releasing. I'm planning to mount solar panels on my rear windows, and these new KAON rear window mounts for the Prado 150 will be perfect. When are you expecting to have them available?
Ethan - Perth, WA
Hey Ethan! We're glad to hear you liked the External Window Panels! These are a proper prototype at the moment-we decided to let the cat out of the bag and put them on the build. This lets us start doing some real-world testing while also getting feedback from customers on what they want to use it for and what their concerns are. Knowing you want to use them for solar is exactly the kind of feedback we're seeking.
We'll have more updates as time goes on! But for now, buckle in, we have more prototypes for testing going on the 150 ;)
@@KAONaust There is another similar product that has two layers so you can fold it down as a table.
Any chance you can do a version for the 200?
I am still not fully convinced by the new Prado's arrival. Yes, it will be new and flashy, but with no long-range tank and what is being described as underpowered and very expensive for what it is. I have a feeling, not many people aren't going to swap from their 120's and 150's. Especially since you guys are just bringing out brilliant quality products that keep extending add functionality and quality. Watching this series of films very intently, knowing that your 150 build will inspire many to keep and modify what is one of the best touring cars ever created. Very exciting, Team Kaon. I can't wait until the next video.
Thanks for the kind words! We're intrigued by the 250's arrival and do have one on order for product development so we can continue to create products for customers well into the future. But the trusty 150 won't be going anywhere anytime soon and still has many years of life, and product opportunities, left. ;)
Have the same awning on the same car, the extra flap at the front slides out and you can slide it in the rear arm to bridge the gap above the boot. Great for when its raining
Yes definitely, great tip! We've got it stashed inside the car at the moment but it'll come in handy if the weather turns sour.
Nice work Team Kaon, interesting to see your choice of suppliers
Thanks John! We've tried to really do our research for this build - there are so many great options for every category of product!
Great stuff - really enjoying these episodes.
Thank you! We're glad to hear it :)
Very excited about the rear window mounts. I don't want a roof rack for a few reasons and have wanted somewhere for recovery tracks. This, fingers crossed, may be answer!?!. I will be watching and following carefully.
You'll have to stay tuned! At this point the External Window Mounts are designed to mount to a roof rack, but these are very much a testing prototype and if we bring a version to market it would be quite different.
Love it. Definitely looking at getting that rack installed on the 150.
It's a great quality rack - comes up a treat on the Prado.
@@KAONaust do you have the product detail/model for that particular rack? Rhino shows two that are near identical. Im curious about the one you guys used. Loving this build series, thankyou
Looking good, I’m writing my Wishlist down and there is not a thing I’ve said no to. Kaon products and The Rhino Backbone are great products.
Glad to hear it! The Rhino Pioneer and Backbone system is a great combination.
I was looking to buy outside Molly panel for my 150 Prado but I could only find it online in USA Thanks for designing it hope I can buy near future Thanks ❤
We've got a bit of testing to complete on those ones, but glad to hear that you're interested!
So excited for the rear window mount, I’ve been looking at these from companies over in the US and I’m unbelievably stoked that you guys are going to produce one, also love the idea of being able to fit a vaast water carrier to it opening up the potential for even carrying a Jerry can without having to get a rear bar or loading it on the roof
Please tell me they are going to come out for the Base rack also 😁
We've not confirned the specs of it as yet, and there's still plenty of testing to be done, but we'd be working on making it as universal as possible!
Wow mate, its come up nice with a good clean..
Hasn't it! Couldn't believe how much the car transformed. Shows the power of a great detail, and a good detailer too!
Great build. I’m doing the exact to my car. I converted my rhino pioneer from the factory rail mounted to backbone and it’s much more stronger
Thanks Anthony. The Backbone is a great system!
Very interesting. And so great to have the vehicle so thoroughly cleaned before you begin - and being white - truly a 'blank canvass'!
Couldn't have put it better ourselves!
Gear shift knobs for FJ Cruiser would be awesome 👌 👏 👍 😍 💖 😎
We'll pass it on to the team!
Exciting times ahead. You should really consider making lift up rear side windows (aka gull-wings) for 4WD vans. I'm sure due to your attention to detail and innovative designs, it will eclipse all the others already in the market.
Appreciate the kind words, maybe one day we'll get to gullwings!
Like the roof rack and accessories, will probably get your max trax mounts, they look nice.
What weight for the roof are you using as the maximum all up for the Prado?
Those rear window outside mounts look interesting. If you are going to make them suit a range of roof racks I can see a challenge there.
We have an ARB base rack that is a lot wider than the back bone and sticks out quite a bit on each side, but gives us more space and your feet to not hit the Prado body when using a side ladder.
It would be nice if you can get your hand [flat] behind the panel to clean the window if necessary, and make it easier to fit attachments
Mud can accumulate under things like those window panels over time
Can see these being very successfull if enough accessories are fitable
I guess you can only go as wide as the mirrors, is that correct?
All great points and questions!
From memory the Prado has a 100kg load rating, so we'll be working to keep both well within that and the total vehicle GVM.
Definitely will be a challenge to release the Exterior Panels for multiple vehicles - the adjustability for the variables across the market is going to be the biggest challenge, but not an impossible one. Even just within the Rhino there are various rack sizes and configurations available for the Prado, let alone the other rack makes on the market.
We wanted to get a working prototype on the car for real-world testing. As this is a totally new concept for us, there are some unknowns with the method of attachment we've selected and nothing beats actually using it to learn what works.
Extrusion laws for the side vary from state to state, so we're also currently gathering legislation from the appropriate bodies on this topic to fully inform what can be done.
That rear window rack for Fj please 🙏
love the table storage options under roof rack however will there be other options for different sized table and different roofracks (i.e ARB Base Rack)
ARB BASE Rack is a tricky one as the rack sits very close to the vehicle - awesome for the rack, but not so great for squeezing a table underneath. We have some ideas, so we'll see!
at 9:00 if you make even larger gear knob you can make it a cupholder :)
Now there's an idea :P
Any rough idea on when you will release the rear window molle? I’m so keen and if you need testers would love to try one out for you guys
Not at this stage, we have some internal testing to complete before we green light it for release - but we'll keep it in mind!
Love the new rear window mount .. any chance you can build them for Gen4 Pajero? Thanks
Not as yet, but if this concept product passes testing and makes it to market, there's a strong chance we'll look at rolling it out to other vehicles too.
You're really helping me out here with my shopping list of what I'm going to do with my Prado. Love your video's and looking forward to the next one, especially keen to see what this rear side window bracket is all about. BTW, is that table still available at Bunnings and does the table mount fit other tables. Cheers
Thanks so much for the kind words, glad to hear you're finding the series is helpful! The table mount is still available at Bunnings (It's the Marque 4ft Trestle Table, you can find the link on the slide listing FAQ). The mount is designed specifically to fit this table, so the chance of it fittings others is not zero, but they would need to be dimensionally the same when folded.
@@KAONaust thank you so much for getting back to me. Great that the table is still available and this will really help with my camp site prep. Invariably, the first thing my wife wants is the table set up and almost without exception, it's at the bottom of the pile of camping gear. Thanks again. Cheers👍
Can you do the matching pair for the FJ?
Knobs and window racks please, do you want to scan my XL base rack as well?
You have the same year make as my 150 so I'm keen to see what equipment you install. I thought you would use braxracks attachments to remove the awning when not needed. I use a Rhino rack 1.9m 270' awning. Is that table you use still available from Bunnings?
We may still do yet! We don't have clearance issues for the Prado, and it's also no ones daily - between trips it's stored full time in our warehouse. So while the Rackbrax is an awesome product we definitely recommend, it's not something we think is imperative for the uses we have for this Prado, yet ;)
The table is definitely still available! We bought a new one last week. Marquee 4ft Trestle Table.
@@KAONaust thanks team, love your work 👍
Great video mate, I'm about to do the same build, pioneer 6 on a 150 Prado. Already loaded with Kaon accessories, but will be getting that table mount! Any thoughts on the 1900 vs the 2100 platform? and do you know what the distance is from the top of the prado to the top of the platform with those spacers is? Just need to make sure it'll still fit in the garage!
We preferred the 1900 long as it just felt a little more in proportion with the roofline, especially with some of the accessories we were looking to add. That said, the extra 200 could be incredibly useful if you're mounting some longer/bigger accessories. if we were going for a longer awning, say a 2700L one, the 2100 would have been a more suitable choice.
The distance is a tricky one, there's no great spot to get a measurement from! If Rhino-Rack have any dimensions available on the standard rack height, these spacers (which we source from Rhino) add just 10mm.
@KAONaust thanks mate!
looks great! Any chance that those rear window panels will be compatible with frontrunner racks?
Hey there! These are just a prototype for testing right now - if we get enough interest we'll start to look at different racks! There's a lot to consider for a market-ready product, these ones don't contain nearly adjustable enough for the variables in roof rack fitment that we would experience across the market.
Makes sense, If it does ever come to market for the frontrunner rack ill be the first to buy them :)
Just traded my 2011 gxl for 2023 vx and about to start fitting it out, love the external side window mount. Is there a fold down uhf aerial mount for the rhino platform that would aerial flat when not in use similar to fold down maxtrax bracket?
You must be reading our minds. We've had something in prototyping for a while now but haven't been able to get something we're happy with. Might be something we can finally release next year! ;)
When do you think the side mirror aerial mount will be available?
Hello, can we purchase your products in France ?
Hey there, you sure can! If you go to our website www.kaon.com.au and add items to your cart, you'll be able to get an accurate shipping quote for international orders in the cart before heading through to checkout.
OK thank you
Tin, Anthony is not going to be happy you move back to rhino racks from rola titan setup😂
Haha, that may be the case, but we've always had a Rhino on here!
Hey @kaon how much does the awning sit above the roof platform if you could measure using your mounting brackets thanks very much
IKEA instructions
Read a lot about where the backbone mounts the covering is not the best compared the factory a lot of potential for water leaks
I got leaks after installing a frontrunner rack that installs in a similar way to the Rhino one, only noticed when the seatbelts started to get wet. Had to remove the whole thing and put silicone on the threads and around the bolt hole things. I'm not super handy with these things so would have been great if they included some water proofing in the instructions so I didn't have to find out the hard way.
Yes that's something we have seen people report as well - you need to be careful with the install for sure. We took extra effort to look after those openings in the roof to protect against water ingress into the roof.
Yakima or Front Runner, or others before Rhino
That's fair enough! What do you prefer about Yakima and Front Runner? Always keen to understand customers' perspectives, and it might give some diverse insight to our audience in the comment section, too!
How shiny is it like a new car
Totally transformed. Amazing the power of a good detail.
We won't talk about your obsession with big black knobs 🫣
We won't if you won't. 😛 Let's just say the phrase "monster knob" was uttered more than once in that filming.