Why This Pantheon Hit Challenger 3 Times
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Pantheon is really easy and brain dead right? Well then why isn't every Pantheon player in Challenger like Keegun?
Pantheon isn't mechanically demanding, but You have a lot to think about with a champion like that.
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BMing is also essential to Pantheon's kit. Tilting the enemy alleviates 40% of his weaknesses late game
As a Teemo main, I fully agree with and endorse this tactic.
And the rest 60% of his weaknesses is trash players who can't end before stomped enemies get to lategame.
As a tryndamere main i like when i make lots of overagressive panth players cry... and yes, even BM them as well...
Works best on Teemo
u just lying to yourself xD if a pantheon player dies to a trynd he just sucks ass
DonghuaP:"Pantheon has no skillshots"
Me who started playing league a month ago:"Pardon me good sir?"
Gotta be confusing as shit xD
Would love to know how you're doing in League now, 10 months later
@@samtreharne4594 a year later, how is it?
New panth is an absolute chad
This video was released prior to the pantheon rework.
Things people learned from that: dont buy pink wards because gold
Theo B. Ult for minions because gold and exp
Don't ult an Alistar or Vayne >_>
Hard push first minion wave then slow push 2nd and 3rd. Then you can roam, buy items or gank. Golden rule.
i have to say one thing im not a main pantheon and i hate him but stfu ur probably garen main
The people watching don’t buy them anyway.
"Pantheon is a n-"
*Pantheon rework annouced*
HES A WHAT?!
he is not black smh
What’s wrong with being a nice person?
Comment section:
10% talking about the content of the video
90% about how hes wrong about spartans not being tacticians
Exactly. Spartans were not just physically trained, but also schooled in warfare mechanics and philosophies from a young age. They weren't just dumb brutes. They were the literal masters of war in their time.
Justin Eggebrecht Proving his point pretty well there :D
It was just that dumb of a thing to say.
@@3NRAG3 and that's only a myth my lad, but nice try
@@roastedmadadevlogs8800 its actually not. look up the research into the philosophies of spartan life. They were taught everything from hand to hand combat, to synchronization in large group warfare, to strategic advantages. The royalty were the only ones taught any sort of economics or statecraft. and it was usually very little
Pantheon rework announced
Keegun has left the chat.
Rework pantheon weaker than the old one
@@Zxckks I’m not sure about that at least as of right now pantheon is pretty good
@@jackmama109 after keegun speak to them mutiply time or else he is useless and just fit for sp, by the way check the time
just in time for the minion aggro changes
thanks god for that
they shouldve made that changes a looooooong time ago, i mean playing against champs with spammable abilities without minions aggroing back is so frustrating to deal with
On one hand he will get more minion agro... on the other, he gains more minion control by throwing his spear and letting them safely come to him... hmmm
Vanja 404 it means point and click abilities like Pantheon Q will draw minion aggro now
HaasholdGaming :(
Gangplank Mains: I spam Q unlimited times, you lose lane.
Pantheon: *Laughs* Hold my beer.
Good man.
Duane Doldrum hold my Spear*
difference between gp and panth tho is gp has canned pussy juice, a free(mana) stackable aoe damage and dont have to risk shit when ulting somewhere with his true global ult xd
@@dangdiggity9916 wtf
@@mlgbblade5221 sup
So, he's not a barbarian, he's actually a true spartan
Karanthaneos
Pantheon was an average fighter, but a brilliant strategist
2:15 "Guarantees laning advantage in early game"
4:13 "Pantheon is an early to mid-game champ"
9:40 "Scales well into late game"
1:09 "He's a really shit champ"
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"scales well to late game"
Me: who told you these lies?
i have a honda civic.
this comment made me do soemthnig i rarely actualyl do when at privacy of my home. burst out in laughter. all alone. Well played sir
Mee too :D
I feel for you, man.
Planning to have one. It zippy enough for me.
I'm genuinely confused about the joke what's the joke?
4:04
"Don't buy pink ward early game"
Most of people rejected his message
He has challenger macro, challenger game knowledge and knows the champions dynamics better than others.
Saved your 11 minutes.
Khons Hxb but y would i not want to watch donghuaP
It's the details the help people improve, not the summary. XD
BASSFZz oh shit I didn't know you played league. I watch your vids lol
I've been playing about a year now. I stopped recently but intend on getting back into. I have a personal challenge to master Evelynn, so I should probably get back to it one day soon. XD
Dong makes it much, much funnier. Like Sky William back then... sigh
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Rip point and click pantheon, you were too pure for this dirty world
it hurts my heart after getting poked by 1000 spears in laningphase from a bad pantheon to see their mastery 7 emote
That means your laning phase goes on for at least 1 hour 6 minutes and 40 seconds (if none of you ever go back, you have infinite health and pantheon has infinite mana.) Correct me if im wrong.
you are right
Yes ofc you’re saying that bc you have a yas as your profile...
Steven Zheng this was sarcasm, my laning Phase vs pantheon consists of a ton of spears he throws on me . In this time he spamms his emote. The rest of the game he is clueless what to do because i didn't let him snowball me. The average pantheon is used to get easy kills then roam with it, what won't be possible for him if i inform my team that he is comming for them
I didn’t mean what I say too serious.whenever I play panth,only to counter yas, the yas always goes to all chat and gets toxic hence I was saying was more of a joke
"He is not like a spartan..." 11:13
12/0/0 ok
@The HandProject *laughs in Romans*
the title souds like an ad you'll see on a porn site. "hit challenger on 3 different accounts using pantheon and these simple tricks"
Pro players hate him! Learn how one man grew a 7 inch dick I mean hit challenger with 3 simple tricks
toplaner hate him, Don't tell your jungler you are playing this champ
Tomer Dagen PornHuap
Doctors hate this man. Click to see how this man climbed to challenger in 3 weeks !
stfu mista
"He is not like a spartan he is like a tactician"
>Spartan Phalanxes were extremely advanced and required both teamwork and planning
>Spartans invented most marching formations still used today
Good video, informative as hell but that one line was pretty dumb.
there's always that one guy....
lucax tshotting Can confirm, my uncle marched for the US Army in Iraq.
lmao no one cares damn
I thought the same, I mean its ok if they are famous for being warriors but that doesn't mean they weren't one of the best tacticians
Internal Bleating wayyy too over analytical
So pantheon is like a loaf of bread. If the dough is bad, the final result is also bad.
Holy shit that analogy is godlike. You sir, deserve a medal.
Baker Pantheon sends his regards
Yes, a baker.
wow, even Gordon Ramsay would be impressed.
In conclusion bronze pantheons suck and challenger pantheons are good. I learned so much.
Considering "spartans", as in warriors, were as much disciplined as they were strong, I'd say Keegun is way more similar in mindset to Pantheon than most braindead people who play him.
Edit: Many people have noted that real spartans were not, in fact, that much smarter or better at combat than any other civilization at their time. Thanks for the bit of insight, folks.
Agreed- "They disgrace the art of war."
I think he means warrior in that sense. a warrior focuses on his fight but a tactican focuses on the whole battle.
Well the spartan empire was doomed to fall, because they shunned scholars and traders because they deemed that those jobs werent fit for a spartan man. So i wouldnt say that they were smart at all :p
Sparta wasn't an empire dude get ur info right
romans
*Me an individual doesn’t buy pinks one game after watching this video ganked 752 times.
*enemy jungle in chat “should have bought pinks”
The secret is to go full AP Pantheon
9 people will be playing League, while you'll be playing darts.
dat moment when you watch nb3 and you try it and you fail
RoseGold that's why you shouldn't think because someone did it you can too immediately, don't try to do anything crazy without much experience otherwise you will most likely fail
He has developed such a wrong profile for Spartans lol
its not wrong,spartans actaly was cunts ;)
historicly i mean
@@getsimked6754 Well they did stop the Persians from easily capturing all of Europe. It would be plenty of slavery years.
He is the only player I know who uses the insta kill minion rune
Its very popular in Korea because people realized how much early pressure you can put by deleting a canon minion. I took them in game when the patch first dropped and deleted a whole super minion siege. You don't want it to get that far but if it does, they are a life saver lol.
I'm pretty sure you don't take it to use it on canon, but rather on ranged minions so you get bonus damage against the backline. That way his e can probably one shot the caster minions earlier than the normal.
Nah, they 100% use it on canon, cause if you get rid of the canon and go in for a trade, they are gonna get destroyed by your canon. If you use it on the canon, then clear the rest, you get a lot of time to go roam. I GUESS you could use it on the backline but it doesn't seem worth it since the backline minions are the easiest to kill. I watched some Korean replays and the smart way to use it is definitely on the canon. If you use all of them on the canon, thats 300 guaranteed gold, AND you would be possibly 1 shotting them for the rest of the game.
Nah you don't use it on ranged minions lol wtf. 99% cannon.
In_Vas_Por this, serios macro play
I totally understand that high level players are patient in their games, they always try to make the right choices and refrain from impulsive decisions. But the game is most fun for me when stuff just happens, when you try something crazy and it goes through, when you just do what you like (without being a dick to other people, of course). Let the chips fall where they may, I just could never see league as a second job. Having one job is boring enough as it is.
Never teleported from school back home so fast
GMDNizzy I know this is complete bullshit
Spearshot is the panth god now
"... kill the women and children" god thats why I love you Dong, you're pretty much the only league youtuber I know, that likes dark humor
That's not the League community, it's anything that even remotely resembles a community and has lot of people in it.
this was probably the least dark vid from dong
Ik, been watching him for quite a while now but I always love how random those comments of his come, like at the one side he is really objective and explains really good and in the next moment he is talking about killing women and children xD
Uberdanger? MagikarpUsedFly?
Gruckets They do it for memes, to joke around. Dong here does it for that "wow" shock factor.
The Spartans were calm and calculating they all stuck as a group and moved forward together
I think these kind of interview episodes would be great! They're probably hard to get because you need the pro player to agree with the interview, but it'd be great if you can pull it off. Great video as always!
You also forgot to mention that this guy, even when he gets camped or gets killed a lot and falls behind, still manages to come back from it and goes positive at the end of the game consistently
Ask Hashinshin
Interesting, I want to play panth now haha
i feel like that after every video like this, but then i try it, feed my ass off and suddenly that feeling is gone xD
Chizz co just don't first time this in ranked and ruin 4 people's time
Pantheon is a champion that requires a lot of research, rather than a lot of experience. It's like Dong said- braindead kit.
You want to pay attention to whether lanes leash, which requires you to understand jungle routes & matchups.
You should also look into the quantification of minion gold and xp, so as to maximize your minion control efficiency.
Knowing your buy thresholds is always important.
Conceptualizing lane responses to your ganks is an easy and important step that new Panths tend to ignore.
Pantheon is not a champion that can afford to misplay in teamfights, as his kit doesn't support tank items at all. This means that you'll have to have clear goals set out for your fights based on relative strengths.
Pantheon REQUIRES a cool head- he's a thinking champion who abuses calculation, rather than rote repetition. This means that you need to be calm and measured, so you really have to do the research to be regularly successful.
I support Dong Huap's video as a Panth main myself (gold 5). I'm sure there's plenty I missed- these were just some points that I thought might be helpful.
Its High Noon Your name reeks of McCree, you have no right to call anything trash my good sir
"not with kills, but with minions"
Pantheon Jg: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!
Imagine Kratos playing chess, here is your best Pantheon main
Wonder how he feels about the rework
It suck
I love this vid make more videos with interviews with the players
"He is not spartan, he is a tactision"
He just seams more and more like pantheon, a baker.
I miss old Panth :(
This was by far one of the most interesting videos you’ve made, mad props to Keegun he’s like a genius to listen to
I don't think you really understand what a Spartan is. A Spartan is a tactician, not a barbarian as you described. 10:50
To not appreciate how the Spartans revolutionized tactical warfare is a serious injustice to their legacy and everything that defines a Spartan. Even in the dumbed down movie 300, Spartan's tactical skills are highlighted and emphasized.
Really wish you did some basic research on Spartans because they are truly awesome and had some really impactful tactics that changed Warfare dramatically.
I think people could really come to appreciate and enjoy learning about the history of Spartans if they had a basic understanding of their history.
PS: Still enjoyed the league of legends education here.
Dude no1 cares
@Vale Sauce It's a game, that info isn't gonna get you through college is it. Tell me who the fuck finds you valuable when you say that shit.
@Vale Sauce I know this is the internet, but please have some respect for yourself. No one in your life gives a fuck about a Spartan. I don't even think you give a fuck either, you just want attention.
why do you play league? why do you watch youtube? that won't get you into college. Its almost like people have personal hobbies and interests. And its almost like people like to share those interests with others. you're ignorant af dude
If they were so smart how come they're dead?
Man, finally someone gives this guy some recognition! I've been following his guides since s6 and boy oh boy he's fucking good!
For a second I though it was a Gbay99's video
Same
"No defence." yeah he just has a shield and can block autos and turret shots.
11:03 actually spartans were indeed playing smartly and were calculating not just rushing in.
That was the situation when somebody know nothing about Spartans ;) He described exactly the opposite
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Little did you know, keegun is actually street Jimmy
That strategy in the beginning is what literally everybody does on every hero since the history of LoL. Get the lvl 2 then harass then crash
Tried to find this guy in twitch and couldn't, any idea what his Twitch name is or where to find him?
Kinda fun that this guy plays pantheon just like me, but im a trashy gold player who leaves pantheon for normal games.
Well, with the 8.2 patch point and click abilities now draw minion Aggro so will kegan adapt to this change?
In the upcoming patch his Q will cause minion agro xD
thank god
HOJOJOJO, ME CAGO E' RISA not thank god tbh. It would work in most smart pantheons favour which would suck
care to expand?
karl karlsson so when ever you hit an enemy champion in lane the enemies minions attack you, they focus you and this is called minion agro, in the upcoming patch pantheon's Q will cause enemy minions to attack you, but it's not only path champions like yasuo will also find it harder to trade in the early levels.
TheRealZuril Yasuo can just line in the q with a minion
the play at 5:55 is nice. i like it how he procs his passive shield skill by stunning a minion to block that tower shot which would have otherwise killed him. That's the kinda stuff i never do and is why i'll be forever in gold :(
A wise man once said: view Pantheon as an alcoholic abusive parent.
JustSomeGuy but Keegun is a SMART alcoholic abusive parent, you wanna do some shady stuff? Just play like Pantheon
this comment is the best one man!!
what happened to these kind of videos theyre gone
Here after the rework
They should revert him 100% agreeable.
I really love that you heavily credit the people whose builds and playstyles you showcase. So much different from other youtubers who generate content by looking to take other people's builds/playstyles and show it off as their own.
patch 8.2 target skill nerf, thoughts? on minion aggro
Gabriel Luis he says i doesnt rly mattet cause he maxes e anyway on most match ups
of course lol
600 Q range means Pan will be able to avoid aggro damage easily by just walking away. However, you will have a harder time freezing your lane if you Q a lot.
Just go into a bush instantly after Q-ing lol.
Need the pink wards now or those bushes that are warded wont help.
"Kegan is not like the greatest tacticians ever known so great a movie was made about them, he is like a tactician"
Keegun is patient and know how to play i respect that....but what you said at 11:04 is what i want to do.
The only way i can satisfy my bloodlust for kills war and glorious slaughter is to make riot rework panteon.
Until then i will be patient and use tactics !
You forgot about the most important step, buying Baker Pantheon skin... Killing that Infernal Nasus repeatedly with a fucking loaf of bread, and a butter knife lowers their confidence by 75%.
Short version:
He's so bad he forces you to play well.
Who told you spartans were not calm and not a tactitians
Yes, exactly. The reason the spartans were almost unbeatable is that they had way better strategical warfare than anyone else, in terms of formation, weaponry, equipment.
Spartans had
the best strategies and no outsider was allowed to see them train. To this day we don’t know their exact tactics , they also took turns fighting and some slept while other fought and the men behind the front line gave them weapons and what not. They didn’t just go yolo and suicide that’s why they were the first and mightiest professionally trained army in the world.
True
"Ranking as high as Rank 20."
*Rank 19 is displayed on the screen*
Spartans were known to be calm and tactical in battle. Yes they were fierce and brave but they didn't scream or do reckless things or panic. they were like spec ops of today
"Gettin kicked into a well it's the least of your problems"
Every champions can macro-manage the game, some better than others. The reason Pantheon is easy to macro with is because there is almost no micro-management in his kit, allowing you to focus on the macro more. But easy isn't the best, since there are a few other champs in the game who are better at macro management.
Looking on lolalytics, it says that Pantheon has a low winrate against Maokai, Sion, Olaf, Malphite and more. He does have counters, you just have to play the right champ against him
U know little to nothing about spartans😂😂😂
No shit, he's playing league all day
no one cares lmao
That’s not the point
Fun extreme hard counter to Pantheon top is Nocturne top. Doesn't matter how many spears you throw at Noct, his passive out heals your harass. Forcing Pantheon to just spear toss for CS. Entering melee range is going to result in a bad trade for Pantheon.
Please don't spread pantheon's cancer...
'he is not like a spartan, he is like a tactician" spartans were tacticians also
do more videos like this
when he dropped the 'pink ward purchase rate' I died
10% of comments: Complaining about Pantheon players in lane
10% of comments: Enjoyed the video
80% of the comments: ArE yOu aN iDiOt, sPaRtAn'S wHeRe TaCtiCiOnS!!11!
why no videos for like... a year now? We miss you donger
Wait a minute. Are you saying that the spartans weren't tacticians? Are you mental???
Guys guys, relax, I'm sure it's possible the minion kill rune can be used on whichever minions you like.
I see people mentioning the cannon, I hear ranged minions, also Anivia can use it on Melee minions for r'ing the waves faster.
When you open up one door you don't have to seal up all others with bricks.
Cos you are bad and he is not. Saved you 11 minutes and 42 seconds of your life
the shield in the thumbnail looks like a pokeball
How to deal with heimerdinger and annie plsssss
Heimer
Either:
A: Play safe and let him push early knowing you'll scale better than him anyway.
B: He specifically counters a select group of champions... therefore he has a lot of his own counters that are very popular and played a lot. Check op.gg or something and you can find a list of champs that shit on him in top and mid.
C: A good gank with hard cc stops him from using his spells = no burst damage from turrets. Especially after cutting his ult q damage in half at all levels in 8.1.
Josh T but how and when can i gank him?
Alonso Cruz Vásquez Totally forgot to mention that. You have a 8-10 second window right after he uses his E (stun grenade). That's his only escape and his main beam proc. Fortunately, most Heimer players poke with it (because minions can block the missiles), so you won't have to wait long.
That's usually what Katarina players do, for example. Wait for the grenade to fly, then dash to a dagger and do your damage, dash out. Renekton players who are used to donger players easily counter them with that "in and out" tactic with Slice and Dice (W) as well while the nade is down or while it's in mid air.
How to deal with annie? Get some MR so she cant burst you down at 6.
She is also very weak to jungle ganks. Especially if she has no flash up
How to deal with Heimer and Annie: get out of bronze
spartans are super safe dudes. they avoided a large part of the persian wars and even left the fighting to their neighbors in the peloponnese wars. Keegun thinks like a spartan
I play pantheon and I myself think he is ez af to play
thats literally the side point of this video...
i dont know anymore if im here for league tutorials or spartan history lessons
1,5k triggered pantheon mains :(
Didn't they change minion aggro so now targeted spells draw it? Wont that change pantheon's game a bit?
Maybe there's an alternate universe that has everything the exact same way we have things except the idea that Pantheon can block turret shots was never added to the game!
"Most patheon players have the spirit that pantheon has, a spartan. Kill the back line, kill the squishies, kill the women and children"
Still one of the best assasins with his stun to close in. U can Q, W,AA,E, Flash over wall,R to escape without being touched.
Thank you so much Dong and Keegun!
I was wondering if the fast slow slow wave control works for Jayce too?
btw. "the safer play is the better play" is usually true in general if were talking about SoloQ. And 1 for 1 is not worth it.
That's grossly simplified, but you're able to climb to a certain threshold just by not feeding and giving up free kills, as alienating as that may sound to someone who thinks 20/10 is a better stat then 5/0
Does this still work with the changes to minion aggro?
So he does what I used to do with Ashe back in s2. Get E at level 1 for gold,supporting with with 1-2 gold items and rush trinity and full crit and movement speed and get as much gold as possible.
Seriously, i almost forgot that pantheon existed 'til i watched this video
"they'll do the killing for u" no my team feeds
Really helpful! I will definitely use this next time I am making a video with Pantheon.
"No skillshots" HIS ULT IS A SKILLSHOT HURRDURR
His way of approaching the game is similar to Dopa in a way, a calculated macro-intensive playstyle that focuses on gaining leads in the early - mid game and peeling for carries in teamfights.