Sports that Translate Best to Climbing
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Have you ever looked at someone doing something physical and thought, dang that person would make a good climber? This is a common thought experiment with sports fans as cross training has reduced the gap between seemingly different sports. NFL players are experiencing success in mixed martial arts. Bo Jackson played both football and baseball. And summer Olympian athletes like LoLo Jones are transitioning to winter Olympic sports like the bobsleigh.
Whenever I see a newer climber picking up the sport quickly I always ask them what their movement background is. I get a variety of answers but also a few commonalities. This video will explore those different sports that climbers come from as well as a few others that translate best to the wall.
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What is my movement background? Sitting at a desk learning at school, followed by sitting at a desk playing video games. And now! Sitting at another desk doing work all the time. Probably why im all arms, no legs and my hips are bricks hahaha. Still love climbing tho :P
A friend of mine works in the forrest, mainly in the trees around the walkway, cutting down loose branches or dead trees with a chainsaw. So ist a mixture of holding on to it with one hand and carrying the chainsaw with the other while hanging on a rope and getting used to heights.
He never climbed before but when he joined me he could do what I did except for the very crimpy routes and slabs. And at that point I climbed for 3 and a half year...
Very humbling and showing, that not only athletes but workers who hold heavy machinery can translate that to climbing
Forrest Gump?
I’ve been skateboarding for 11ish years and feel right at home with smears / balancey moves
found this comment 2 years later… i was also a skateboarder and i feel the exact same way. the balance is definitely an advantage
My background was trail running and some capoeira angola (a lot of groundwork using arms) before going into climbing, which I felt helped a lot. Funnily enough I have been learning roller skating and its working really well for cross training bc it's about balance and precise foot weight placement, plus whole body movement + dance/improvisation. Plus gives me something to cross train when my arms are tired from climbing 😂
Dungeons and Dragons!
i would want to add skateboarding, creativity coordination and balance and also bouldering has some "tricks" like toe hook catches or palm moves. learning these tricks and apply them in new situations is basically the whole concept of skateboarding.
I think skateboarders are more comfortable in friction moves (smearing) too. They seem to have better sense of balance and stronger leg strength
@@cerrateng4731 kind of funny, climbers have the rubber on the shoe for friction, and skaters have the griptape on the board for better friction^^
Imagine a Skateboard withput Griptape but a Shoe with griptapbe, so darkslides become easier :D
And then a french guy comes along and just put some chalk on his foot and skate bare foot ^^
@@cerrateng4731 Id been skateboarding my whole life and I picked up climbing a year ago. Smearing and balancey moves were my immediate strengths
The MMA folk I've met have extremely good body awareness, great understanding of leverage and balance and ofc come equipped with massive strength by default, for sure. Also high pain tolerance.
What an enjoyable video! Thank you
Super awesome video! Thank you
As a ballerino I'm glad you actually had dance on the list. I am constantly trying to explain this to other dancers and trying to get them to come with me.
combining my 2 favorite things, breaking and climbing. Can honestly say I hardly ever see both niche activities in the same place. And Keone and Mari Madrid none the less! Well done
I've been involved in pretty much all those sports except dancing XD I remember when I first started climbing (bouldering specifically), one of my first thoughts was "it feels like wrestling the wall!" I definitely felt like my jujutsu background was applying relatively directly, with intuition of body position adjustment and isometric exertion. Making me miss grappling even more! I also first took up bouldering as cross training for Parkour. Though perhaps ironically, climbing is the activity I've stuck with longer. And while I haven't actively done Parkour specifically for a long time (the movements and philosophy still influence all my movement practice though), I have had multiple influences (now counting you) making me consider getting back into it as the weather improves.
If you watch Storror, you will quickly see that they add climbing elements to their parkour lines. Parkour guys are actually starting to use some movement which requires decent finger strength. :)
As a wrestler who’s just gotten into climbing, you were spot on. I’m not the best at static climbing, but I flashed a v6 competition style Boulder just because I was able to launch myself across the wall.
I 've been doing judo for 20 years and started rock climbing a year and a half ago. I've had a really easy time getting into it with the background in gripping, pulling, and balance.
I transitioned from gymnastics after a really bad shoulder injury. Really helped me progress quickly.
anyone else want surfing to be on this list?
-balance and body positioning
-shoulder/back/core strength
-dynamic full body controlled movement
-outdoor adventure with some risk and home crag/home break nativism
-condition dependent
also: i enjoyed the video -- thanks so much!
As someone who plays rugby and climbs I can say there is very little crossover between the two except for maybe brute strength haha the biggest thing is that as a forward in rugby I’m always trying to increase my weight, especially lower body muscle mass which obviously isnt optimal. They do balance each other out nicely though, which helps keep me sane
Tomoa Narasaki @ Dog Wood, Futako Shinchi. Great little gym!
although obviously it doesn't train your upper body as much as you would like, I actually think trail running is pretty good training. very strong core and balancing element. fast footwork and quick decision making especially with rocky single track or single track that is heavily shielded by foliage. and a commitment to pain and mental endurance. you also need a lot of strength for runs with a lot of vert.
I'm also going to always advocate for nordic skiing as good training for everything.
Motocross translates well id argue. great for forearm training for grip recovery, grip strength and endurance, grip awareness for early fatigue. so much more awareness of body position and dynamic center of gravity as well to make the grip awareness happen. also if you watch trainer ryan huges (ryno) theres lots of his talks about using all of the joints in the body for full athletic effectiveness. in motocross probably more for balance and absorption but in climbing the same can be said but for balance and extension also an extreme amount of control in the legs and core is essential for motocross. plus theres some moments of serious commitment that give you some serious butterflies and helps train your mental game as well. belief in yourself and a will to fight is somewhat key to both
Nice! Im a b-bboy and I progressed pretty nicely when I started climbing its feels like I'm just dancing on the wall now
Long distance running and alpinism/the adventures Tom Randell or Anton Krupicka get up to have a cross over in regards to cardiovascular fitness, fatigue and pain management, and technical skills (navigation, rope work).
👆 came here to say exactly that
Pole vault is a great sport that transitions well to climbing. I was a pole vaulter through college. The body awareness, contortions, flexibility, core strength, and shoulder strength really translates well. I have only been climbing for a few months but have seen success pretty quickly.
I've climbed with a few ex-soccer players who had incredibly precise footwork and great dyno game
My friend is a soccer coach but his footwork is terrible lmao all hands so weird 🤷🏻♂️
Crossfit!
Between pull ups, toes to bar, bar muscle ups, ring muscle ups there's a ton of upper body and core work. Flexibility from the Olympic lifts: snatch and clean & jerk. Grip strength from farmer carries and deadlifts. General conditioning, and the mental aspect of pushing through challenges.
My 1st martial teacher used gym ropes and and had us climb vertical and horizontal rope. I remember i had to do a isometric hang for 5 min when i was 8. Lol 😂good times.
Calisthenics is a pretty broad term, and can be separated into a lot of niches like breakdancing parkour and gymnastics. I feel like you forgot to talk about tricking and street workout (this splits into the choreography dynamic type and the gymnasts strong type and a mix of both).
I played soccer... my legs are good for dynos, but probably not worth their weight for climbing. Besides that, maybe I have better foot control/awareness?
this one is a stretch but I am working in the construction field right now, and boy do these guys have some serious finger and forearm strength. I think that people that work in construction or anything manual will have an advantage in finger strength compared to normal pèeople.
Hope you sometime in the furutre May make a long version off the movie
. Infirmative
I'd also add in basketball. A jump shot is a precision movement that requires force to flow from your toes to your fingertips. Lower body strength, dynamic explosiveness, and intense focus on footwork really translates well.
Not sure why, probably my limited sample size, but I've been most surprised with former skateboarders. It makes no sense, as in my head all they use is legs for dynos and even those not directly(unlike parkour for example) because there is a tool in the middle. But I guess the body awareness is there. Plus the mental toughness of going proper during attempts is perhaps similar enough in both sports, both when learning and when finally going for it aye.
They have great body awareness and balance, yeah. And for sure, they aren't the most sheepish bunch by default =D
balance can't be underestimated imo, can make a huge difference
knowledge of manipulating center of gravity, boldness and usually low bodyweight. All those stuff really help them to transition to climbing
Im not sure but i think paul robinson and daniel woods have both skateboarded when they were younger
They are also great at hammering a problem until they finish it, because skateboard tricks are all about failing and repeating until you can finally get the trick. They aren't afraid to try something over and over again, even if they literally just fell down 15 stairs onto their face.
I like the example of wrestling but I think bjj would be even better, it has all the característics of wrestle added que finger strength from grappling
As a former ballet dancer of 15 yrs I agree 😁 it has been great for balance, flexibility and jamming my feet in tiny shoes
brazilian capoeiras has made some of the best climbers ive seen
Very nice video. I would add Pole Dance (Pole Sport) and Aerials (Aerial silks, aerial hoop, trapeze)
- strong arms and finger grip strength
- flexible legs
- good body control and contortion
- used to train in height
Pole dancing, Lyra, contortion background here.I think it’s pretty helpful for transitioning
Swimming, Thenics, Dance, MMA, skateboard, Power lifter
i don't do any of these but i still climb
Is that you at the end???!
Ninja warrior, and calisthenics?
ninja warrior is essentially parkour mixed with climbing though. Calisthenics is very similar to gymnastics too.
Ninja warrior!
Rowing. It gives lots and lots of stamina and strength, discipline, hand grip, will to keep on further than you'd expect to withstand, and also realizing in a deep level that every single tiny detial on an aparently simple move can be very determining in the long run... It also always brings out reminding yourself to apply strength efficiently and be able to relax any muscle that is not essential at each part of the stroke. As, for body awearness, movement isn't there much but speaking of physical capabilities of oneself, sure! While olympian absolute rowers would'nt make for great climbers because they are big and weigth a good amount of kilos, i gotta say i've never seen anyone do as many pullups as some ligthweigth rowers (and we rarely do pullups on our trainings!)
It's just after a rowing season when i feel the strongest to transition into overhanging routes
Skateboarding
Swimming has also so interesting aspects, that can help a climber.
@Jack Oakley i'd assume body type, muscle groups and endurance could have some overlap
From what I can tell, not really. Sure upper-body strength, but very different moves, very different way to distribute energy, and very different mind game.
@Jack Oakley Freestyle is almost like a pulling movement for the arm. And you need good core stability.
i've noticed that swimmers tend to have really strong shoulders, and excel in wide and shouldery positions. Ethan Salvo is a good example, he transitioned from swimming to climbing and climbed v12 in about 2 years.
I started climbing 2 weeks ago, after spending most of my adult life just lifting weights. I was climbing 5.9s on top rope and V2/V3 bouldering routes on my first day and nobody believed that I'd never been climbing before. So, take that for what it's worth.
I watched some of these videos before day 1 and they certainly helped.
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It's quite unique really that literally no other sport requires finger strength.
They do sand bucket training. Or grip bars, rings, floor. So except for ballet they all use forearm/fingers strength
Lots of other sports require finger strength. But climbing is one of the most demanding. Archery, wrestling, and gymnastics are a few that also require a lot of finger strength.
Haha the best skill from boxing is being able to cut weight
I came from tennis... Damn tennis is pretty useless
You have good aerobic capacity on the right(or left)side of your body with tennis. I guess if you train left arm you will become good at climbing too
@@alede5206 That's called scoliosis and it's not very funny :)
Big fan of tennis. I think it's one of the best 1 vs 1 competitive sports out there (right behind combat sports). Great blend of athleticism, technique, strategy, mental game, and grit.
To leave out calisthenics is pure ignorance. There are plenty of movements in calisthenics like the pistol squat or the Nordic curl that is very useful in rock climbing, but did not originate from gymnastics. Heck, even the humble push up(or its variations like typewriter and wrist push ups), dragon flag, the human flag the jump squat. This is not to mention animal flow movements which can definitely improve your climbing like no other disciplines. Don't get it twisted, calisthenics is just as good as any other disciplines mentioned here.
I can't believe you left out calisthenics, the movents from calisthenics is fundamental to building strength mobility and even unlocking movements for climbing. I don't know of a single advanced rock climber who doesn't condition themselves with calisthenics to get better at climbing. As you might guess from the tone of my message I'm upset.
Gymnastics is pretty much the pro sport version of calisthenics
isn't calisthenics just a subset of gymnastics?
@@Bobbzorzen it's the other way around. Calisthenics is basically all bodyweight movement. rock climbing, parkour, gymnastics, breakdancing and more are a supset of calisthenics. Every niche is different, so saying calisthenics movement should have been included is really pointless because it's a set of movements but not a sport, he may be referring to street workout (which can be either super dynamic or strength based)
@@ofirsinn9635 not true. calisthenics is a sport. calisthenics athletes can excel very well at rock climbing. just because it covers a broader scope of movements and exercises doesn't mean it's any less effective than other disciplines. it is definitely worth mentioning.
@@j.gonzalez2543 gymnastics is certainly a specific way of doing calisthenics; but therein lies the difference, it's very specific. it does not represent the entire art of calisthenics. there are other arts such as yoga, tricking, circus, acrobatics, and as was mentioned in the video dancing/break dancing and parkour. calisthenics definitely stands in a class of its own despite being core to many all of these arts. calisthenics has its own professional leagues and competitions as well. calisthenics is even done in prisons to stay healthy and get jacked. calisthenics is different from gymnastics because everybody can do it at any age and there are progressions at every level; it does not require any specific equipment or gym.
Drinking?
I think you forgot to mention swimmer, inline skaters and skate boarders.
For the gymnast part: You don't have one of the best sport to transition into climbing. You have one of the best sport to transition into most of the sports there is.
(I am not a gymnast btw.)
I still remember a story from a gymnastics coach who was somehow hanging out with some weightlifters (I have forgotten the full context). They encouraged him to try out a snatch and when he did it really well his first attempt they wanted to poach him for their comp team. Beyond that though, I do agree that gymnasts seem to have such comprehensive strength that can apply to so many things, they should have a great ability to try out any other sports.