2042 is a jarring change in the BF series, i'm not talking about theme or placement like a time period, that's interchangeable. The way the simple gameplay of classes and teamwork has been unique and fun for almost 2 decades has been tweaked upon in the worst ways imaginable. Gameplay wise 2042 IS FINE. IT LETS YOU SHOOT PEOPLE WITH A GUN. However in every category that is comparable to a previous installment, another battlefield has done it better. The gunplay is weaker and the gun choice is lower, the gadgets are weak and take too long to unlock. (incendiary grenades are level 39 and the SOFLAM is 58.) The specialists all look the same and the vehicles are way too strong with no counter AGAIN. the identity of your player and the value of a squad has been nullified to bring in these "specialists" to try and give the player a sense of attachment to a character. When in reality that only works in games with severe styles and new IP's or established IP's that work with Hero shooters or specialist genre's already. Battlefield is not a hero shooter and it never should've become one. Your love for the game and your squad and the ability to customize your character to a large degree has turned to ash and smoke with the addition of these hard locked characters. DICE saw how poorly BFV did with it's introduction of black Nazi's and blamed the community for it. When in reality customization of BFV's level would've been astounding in a game like 2042 or BF4. They tried something new, failed, then doubled down on it. I should NOT have bought this game, but it's too late. I was a fool and assumed EA was better, and I was severely wrong. The launch bugs are NOT what is disappointing with this game. I've played a lot of Battlefields and bugs are the LEAST of my worries with the series. Because to DICE's track record they fix launch bugs incredibly fast and reliably. I'm upset I can't put the god damn wingsuit on a character I actually want to play.
Having a select few character classes with distinct personalities when you've got player counts over 100 is maybe the most baffling fucking decision ever made by a game studio.
And it's their sole decision aswell. There is no other game of this scale that uses named specialist characters, other than CoD MW2019 which is tolerable because you only engage like what 3-5 people at a time? Almost every single game with hero characters are only 5v5s or it's varieties.
@@keymash-aimciamciamalk8630 true, yet it is a hero shooter (one if not the games people think of it working). The difference is. Tf2, you can tell who is who, even if they are covered in cosmetics to the point you can tell who mirasmus base model is by looking. The character silhouettes are unique and have unique personalities. Battlefield and Call of Duty both do not create unique characters model wise. They look all the same from a distance. You can't make a hero shooter without HEROES and not generic military/ random fucking people on a battlefield
At this point, there really isn't any denying on EA's part that this game was originally supposed to mainly be a battle royale. They poured all their time and resources into a game mode that eventually died off quite a bit in the middle of production and were forced to at least TRY and morph it into a Battlefield experience we've come to expect. But failed pretty hard
i dont think it was, but its definitely EA wanting a slice of transaction money from hero shooters by incorporating them into the game, it has ultimately made a very weird shooter game that has a very clear identity crisis. the game feels so clunky.
The investors probably went "hey that Warzone game is doing really good, make it like that!" But they wanted it out by the holiday season so there's practically no content.
@@Hiraeth-0X its a pretty convincing theory for me,they wanted that br money they tried it with bfv but if failed so they tried again except making it the focus so to make sure to get the br money but br's eventually stared losing popularity now there's only the 3 br's people care about and everything else is dead so they needed to actually make the rest of the game.they had the gamemode,characters,and maps made for a br but ham fisted it into the battlefield formula
JFJ prides himself of being a good gladiator in combat. But in his heart, he's a diehard medic who will run through hell, poison, anomalies, gunfire, napalm, taxes, unpopular opinions, the fitness gram pacer test, more bullets, and wemon to revive a singular teammate that might not even thank him. A true American.
honestly what hurts me the most is that the trailers looked _fun_ what they were showing held so much game potential, the icing on the cake being that it seemed they were embracing what made battlefield unique compared to other games on the market and that just . didn't happen but i guess that's just the aaa curse isn't it
The definition of tripping over the last hurdle. The problem is AAA companies don’t listen to actual reviewers like JFJ anymore, only sycophants and dicksuckers. Too stuck up their own ass to realise what their players want, as opposed to what the investors want.
@@anonylemon9823 hell, that'd be implying they actually look for criticism in reviews anymore to begin with they just pay off whoever they can to speak positively about the game in "review" videos
@@notandum Good news is Elden Ring is looking good. Bad news, Battlefield looks worse then ass, cause at least ass can have upsides, this ain't even dirt. You can play with dirt. You add water, you got mud, you can use some dirt like pocket sand, and you get a free piss off your significant other by walking in covered in it. I don't want to touch this game. You though, you have a great day from my rambling dumbass.
@@AnAmericanMusician I'm glad your enjoying it (.. no sarcasm actually. Some poor underpaid programmer was made to make this, someone enjoying it despite the bullshit is a good thing)
I’ve never played a Battlefield game, but even I understand the problem of making unique ‘hero’ characters in a game where there are dozens of players on both sides dying over and over in a single match. It simply doesn’t feel right. If these guys are so unique and special, why are they on the frontlines being fed to the meat grinder? The whole point of Battlefield is just that you’re just another footsoldier, ready to die and do your own little bit. Not some action hero who single handedly saves the day.
TF2 has unique "hero" characters just clashing at each other relentlessly on explosive-filled places, but they managed to be actually distinguishable from one player to another with the customization for weapons that actually mattered and the existence of sub-class that may change the playstyle and even how the match is played out radically.
@@aereonexapprentice7205 And even then, TF2 has style and the characters are *ACTUALLY* characters and not: "Soldier #41" A.K.A. Beanbag paste the Serbian Cyberhero. I still despise the choice of heros in Battlefield
@@aereonexapprentice7205 The reason why TF2 works so good with "heroes" is that each character has a theme and their own stats. Each character has different health values, and equipment tuned to their theme. A battle engineer with Frontier Justice and mini sentry still plays like an engineer, just more with a bit different and more aggressive playstyle. BF2042 on the other hand is operators with a different themed gadget but everything else is swappable, so they all feel the same except for voicelines and a single slot on the loadout. If everybody can be anything, and everybody is special, no one is. Also even though BF games have "generic soldier" as their character, the class limitations to weapons and possible equipment made each class feel unique instead of blurring all the classes together like a bad AI generated face.
@@Sleepy_Cabbage That’s because they’re the only ones that actually make sense in universe. Cloning seems to exist in the TF2 universe, and multiple plants in PvZ has been an established thing by the time Garden Warfare came out.
I use to be the medic who got everyone in bf5 I always went 70-13 with 30 revives but in 2042 fuck that I quit a medic character way to many dead players at one time lol
@@TheAtmosfear7 there's not much of a indicator that a medic is nearby and most people either aren't playing the 2 medic characters or if they are there not reviving anyway because they just want to shoot people
The problem is the 2 characters that can revive outside of the squad don't really have good gadgets. One gets a little syringe revolver that heals over time (that can technically kill enemies too which is kinda fun) but it's a slow firing projectile which makes it feel terrible and I'm pretty sure the hitreg is bugged. The other gets...a loadout crate. Not a resupply crate. A crate that lets you switch your loadout.
12:59 Love to see that, instead of making a variant of the takedown where you stab a prone opponent , your character *lifts them to their feet.* Before stabbing them.
I remember when the top player in battlefield 5 was a medic with 23-10 k/d and the second place was 46-5. It's really telling what's wrong with bf2042 when 18 revives was the highest in 124 player game. Take my opinion with a grain of salt though, my first battlefield is 5.
18 revives in a game was the bare MINIMUM in older Battlefield games. Medics were gods in terms of being able to help keep the fight localized in an area. Now the player base of this game is a bunch of twitchy players who don’t want to stick to a team.
No you’re 100% right in battlefield 2 there was no revive counter so people would just go revive train each other over and over and revive trains lasted in all the battlefields up till this one. I remember in metro in BF3 and 4 you’d have trains of medics reviving people.
With the specialists and lack of indicators like seeing medics when your down etc, it's obvious that the game revolved entirely around Hazard Zone during development, but was switched round last minute with a silhouette of Battlefield games stapled on top
The only new fun thing I saw in this game is that you can make a swarm of shields and you can climb buildings with a hovercraft. Cool and funny to see and do, but not worth the trouble.
Despite the historical inaccuracies in bfv with its customization. I had so much fun with it! You could make the most badass getmans, Americans, Japanese or British and it was fun! My guns were epic with cool guns and each had their own outfits since there were so many options! Sad to see they made a hero shooter. Not to mention none of the unique melee from V And like you were asking there was a feature in v and 1 were you could mark the person you’re running to and they’ll get a different market at the bottom saying a medic is coming for YOU
14:55 Summary: Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses. Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because J was already dead.
It looks to me that the decision to change the class character system into a hero character one was following a trend. It is normal for a business to try to follow a trend and make it work. Though, It feels like change for the sake of change, no meaning other than to make it interesting and not thinking about incorporating properly. Guess I'll stick to a different game. Also, the knife take-downs are jank. If the knife kill is going to be that quick in third person, sticking to first person may have been better, in my opinion. Allies giving up on a revive seems to persist through games, apparently.
I don't get why they went "let's advertise this as a return to formula, hey guys it's so Battlefield again isn't it?" and then slapped on random features for literally no reason. I've always loved Battlefield, and 2042 can be good, but I just can't understand how they managed to change *too* much. They had like the golden formula, just make a Battlefield game like 4 or 3 that's new and shiny and boom game of the year for loads of people, there's so much cool shit here, but you're too restricted compared to every other Battlefield game so you can't enjoy any of it. It can be good, it can be fixed, I'm almost certain they'll fix it and make it good, but for now all 2042 has done for Battlefield is make me remember how good the old games were.
As someone who's played on console (and currently making the move to PC) I can garantee you that half of us are cool and ok people that can actually play the objective with teamwork while the other half are braindead idiots that just look around, shoot at things, die and leave the game.
I've been playing Battlefield since Battlefield 2, I still have a disc copy of that game on my shelf. I don't even know what to think about 2042. The main thing about the BF franchise compared to games like COD was the squad play, the team work, about you and your squad of buddies fucking dominating the enemy because you had an amazing medic, a great support who keeps your boys loaded up, a wicked sniper who uses gadgets to spot enemies for you and an assault to smash some fools. Yes the layout of these classes has changed over time, with gadgets falling into different roles, but each role was identifiable at even a glance. That's what 2042 lacks. Identity. If you showed this game to someone in 2014 when BF4 was at the height of it's power without context that 2042 was a BF game they likely wouldn't even recognize it as being one. Sure Portal might be fun, but you shouldn't have to play a custom game mode to get the experience your franchise is built off of. It's a very poor decision that is honestly baffling to the mind how they thought it was a good idea. I don't think I'll be getting 2042, at least not for a while. I feel you JFJ, this didn't really feel like a Battlefield game. And as someone who used to run the Special Forces class just to blow up my enemy commanders radar and UAV stations, that's saying something. P.S: I honestly believe they should NOT have made 2042 as it was. They should of made Battlefield Portal: The Game.
@@badasscrusader and then people will go back and play those *better games.* Why pay for a content pack when you can get an entire game full of the same content, but with more?
@@SouperWy well that was 7 months ago and now there's nothing they can do to save that sunken ship,my thoughts were they going to hope to nostalgia bait to keep the player base up but they just didn't do anything instead and let the ship sink so good riddance to bad garbage
“Hero” thing is like, “You can put it in any game, But the question is Should you really put it in? Like you can eat SH*T but Should you? You can out salt into any thing, But should you put them onto cake like it’s icing?”
It sucks that this game does some good things and some good new ideas such as the wingsuit and grappling hook but the fact that it's overweighted by the bad is just dissapointing to anyone that has as much as a 100 hours into a battlefield game
Well there’s no teamwork anymore so you can’t count on teammates. Of course they have to now. Remember bad company 2 or battlefield 3? How each class was defined and easy to understand? Not anymore.
That hovercraft was the gift that kept on giving. I saw it climb up the building and I'm like "there's no fucking way. that's a glitch." and then I saw them glide from one building to another and I said " no there's no way, you can't be serious. It's not gonna... IT FUCKIN WORKED!!?"
I think they should add a template soldier, the traditionally masked random soldier type. Take any special gadget with any gear, any gun. Have them an optional "character" with the specialists, but just an open template.
2042 had one of the best atmospheres that could allow for player customization. Could've had no-pats from any nationality, any military organization, plus the equipment from those countries. Instead, we get an abomination of a hero shooter all for the microtransactions. It's all so tiresome.
Everyone’s quick to say bugs will be fixed whenever issues with the game are brought up, but I feel the issues lay with the framework of the game itself, not just the bugs on top
I have only played battlefield 1, it was a pretty fun experience while not feeling unrealistic. It had pretty good customization with weapons and tools unique to the Great War, charging headfirst into battle at the sound of a whistle gave me goosebumps, gameplay was unbalanced to be real but each class was still useful and most weapons are fun to use. I could just feel the exaggerated swagger of a traumatized french conscript. Anyways the recent trend of battlefield games seems to be a nosedive with bf1 being the last great one before the *downward spiral*
I feel you with that last question... that stuff in the wrong hands can have some pretty strong effects on families, it changed the trajectory of my childhood quite a bit and obviously not for the better so I swore it off for the sake of my family down the line
You know something funny is going on when everyone flocks to Portal and the sort-of-remakes almost immediately after installing. Also love the BFFs reference there boyo
‘number 1 most revives out of 124 people’ to me just says a lot about how even if you’re downed within a whole group of teammates, no one will want to revive you even if they’re made to do so
HOLY SHIT JFJ The nearby Medic was a thing in BFV. People would still off themselves if im right next to them, and Medics would also run by me. But still.
I think it just got released way too early. Not to mention I don't think they understand adding in unwanted mechanics like the mercenaries or agents with specific abilities is going to also hurt the core game. Honestly if they ran the customization they did in BF-V it would've definitely worked here.
Funny thing that you brought up the individual skin purchase for the different specialists, since BFV had the Elites which are basically the same thing as specialists but without the dumb specific gadgets and they each had their own unique Merle weapon usable on all characters and classes
I've heard a lot of rumors that BF2042 was originally designed as a battle royale and was turned into a more typical battlefield game part way through development. Stuff like the massive maps, hero characters and very limited weapon variety would make a lot of sense in a battle royale game, but don't work in a battlefield game.
Reviving your teammate only to get stuck and die is the equivalent of getting a room in AIT on one of the first floors but getting a brickwall window view
Just checked out the 2042 main theme, it genuinely sounds like they played the main theme on a recorder, distorted it, and threw a ton of other scuffed sounds on it.
Good video J and thanks for your vids it’s probably one of the last I’ll see because I’m trying to just drop RUclips with the way they removed dislikes and are trying to mute people’s opinions I’m really just getting tired of social media in general because it’s becoming more controlling when it should be the other way around but you were one of the good things about it
My first game of Hazard Zone my team got a drive, dropped in the OP car, killed two squads and stole their shit, extracted. All in all I would play again, but not the way it currently is with how squads are set up, there's no way to play solo (and even if there was, the OBJs suck for solo play), extracts being limit 2 is interesting, but with the way battlefield is supposed to be played there's really no merit there. I'd rather have a map be constant and extracts be just drones that take the drives away so you can go back in and fight more. Make drives constantly fall from the sky, extracts be in specific marked out areas that get pinged whenever someone goes for it, and add buy stations for purchase of guns, gadgets, and ammo after extracts. Then when a player wants to leave the game they can do the thing in BF4 with the balloon and big plane that yoinks you for a refund on gear purchased in game.
I had tons of fun playing, but that was cause I was paying with friends. Did not feel like i was playing 3,4, or 5 at all. I can play those ones by myself for a good while, but not 2042.
A good speculation from my brother was that the reason for the very large maps and specialists, is that they originally were basing the game for battle royal early in development.
I'm personally not much of a bf3 or 4 fan (Even thought I still sank a crap ton of time into 4) And I really enjoyed bf1 and , despite it's distasteful non-historical stuff, 5. When I played the beta the game was everything I was scared it was going to be, a regression to all those things I found unpleasant about the game-feel of bf4 without those things that kept me coming back. Thankyou for getting a great video out of this thing at least! Also Bc2 is my all time favorite!
What they should do is make it so you can pick your operator perks. So you can be bush man with a Wingsuit rather than forcing you. They won't go back to the old as it would be a LOT of work. I think, given a few months, will be sick. But as of now... Halo Infinite exists... They should add some smaller maps with smaller player counts. Basically future Battlefield 4 maps.
I''ve been a Battlefield player for a while now (since 2142) so when they announced this game I was pretty hyped ! I played the open beta for 2 hours and it was enough to convince me not to buy the game.
BfV is very fun. I bought it recently and played around 400 hours just in a few months. I usually don’t use vehicles in Bf games, but BfV’s tank balance was amazing.
It feels like they could have had the normal class system AND the sick specialist gadgets. Bring back all the usual classes, but put an extra gadget slot for specialist gadgets. Also, make them class specific. Recon gets Casper’s drone (and maybe wingsuit idk) for example. Engineer can have Liz’s rocket launcher and Sundance’s grenades to choose between. You get the idea. But EA had to have their monetization.
It really doesn't look like a war is going on. Like there's no debris, discarded vehicles or anything on the ground that makes it look like its an actual battlefield. It looks like a simulation.
14:36 From what I read on PCGamer, Update #3, which is coming in December, would add - A UI that tells you who can revive you when downed, - Resource icon above players that shows they can provide health or ammo when you're low on either - You can ping to downed players that you're coming to revive them - Some things for portal - Some other shit that they don't specify The first two should've been in the game at launch, while the last one is a neat addition, that should help make things easier to get people back up before they off themselves. Portal stuff is nice. I'll sum up BF2042 as a good shooter game, for people looking to unga bunga head empty shoot game, but a bad Battlefield game, looking for the objective heavy teamwork game, with lots of space, vehicles, and players. Funnily enough(or not funnily, depending on who you ask) you can compare BF2042's reception to B4B's receptions, in that fans of the originals aren't happy with the changes while the people that are looking for something different or are new to the space are fine with the change in formula.
So check this out. Every game (with the exception of bfv) having you play as a generic, soldier #1563673 instead of setting you up with a operator was a very good thing in my opinion since it helped immerse you into each match you played. Playing as that random, nameless soldier amongst the other nameless soldiers on your team made it feel like you were apart of that conflict even more. You don't really get that feeling with these operators, especially since your bound to run into yourself sooner or later down the line. Furthermore, like J said, having the class system being reflected on how each soldier looked...fucking worked. For example, in each game (again with the exception of Bfv somewhat) you always knew who your medic was, who your engineer was, sniper, and support. Hell, I can tell out a medic in BF:H alot better than in Bf2042. I love Battlefield a lot, hands down. But from what I've seen so far, it feels like a glorified Modern Warfare.
2042 is a jarring change in the BF series, i'm not talking about theme or placement like a time period, that's interchangeable. The way the simple gameplay of classes and teamwork has been unique and fun for almost 2 decades has been tweaked upon in the worst ways imaginable.
Gameplay wise 2042 IS FINE. IT LETS YOU SHOOT PEOPLE WITH A GUN. However in every category that is comparable to a previous installment, another battlefield has done it better. The gunplay is weaker and the gun choice is lower, the gadgets are weak and take too long to unlock. (incendiary grenades are level 39 and the SOFLAM is 58.) The specialists all look the same and the vehicles are way too strong with no counter AGAIN.
the identity of your player and the value of a squad has been nullified to bring in these "specialists" to try and give the player a sense of attachment to a character. When in reality that only works in games with severe styles and new IP's or established IP's that work with Hero shooters or specialist genre's already.
Battlefield is not a hero shooter and it never should've become one. Your love for the game and your squad and the ability to customize your character to a large degree has turned to ash and smoke with the addition of these hard locked characters.
DICE saw how poorly BFV did with it's introduction of black Nazi's and blamed the community for it. When in reality customization of BFV's level would've been astounding in a game like 2042 or BF4.
They tried something new, failed, then doubled down on it. I should NOT have bought this game, but it's too late. I was a fool and assumed EA was better, and I was severely wrong.
The launch bugs are NOT what is disappointing with this game. I've played a lot of Battlefields and bugs are the LEAST of my worries with the series. Because to DICE's track record they fix launch bugs incredibly fast and reliably. I'm upset I can't put the god damn wingsuit on a character I actually want to play.
Cool story bro (didn't read)
I can't read
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for everyone who didn't read: he typed a lot of words
tldr: JFJ is upset
Having a select few character classes with distinct personalities when you've got player counts over 100 is maybe the most baffling fucking decision ever made by a game studio.
And it's their sole decision aswell. There is no other game of this scale that uses named specialist characters, other than CoD MW2019 which is tolerable because you only engage like what 3-5 people at a time? Almost every single game with hero characters are only 5v5s or it's varieties.
@@DrSabot-A or like tf2 which has less then 10 . Point is, this ain't it chief
@@hossdelgado626 even with that tf2 has load of cosmetics that drastically alter the way you look instead of just a color change or minor tweak
@@keymash-aimciamciamalk8630 true, yet it is a hero shooter (one if not the games people think of it working). The difference is. Tf2, you can tell who is who, even if they are covered in cosmetics to the point you can tell who mirasmus base model is by looking. The character silhouettes are unique and have unique personalities. Battlefield and Call of Duty both do not create unique characters model wise. They look all the same from a distance. You can't make a hero shooter without HEROES and not generic military/ random fucking people on a battlefield
they saw operatos in warzone and wanted that money
so they tried to copy cods warzone but fucked all of it up
At this point, there really isn't any denying on EA's part that this game was originally supposed to mainly be a battle royale. They poured all their time and resources into a game mode that eventually died off quite a bit in the middle of production and were forced to at least TRY and morph it into a Battlefield experience we've come to expect. But failed pretty hard
i dont think it was, but its definitely EA wanting a slice of transaction money from hero shooters by incorporating them into the game, it has ultimately made a very weird shooter game that has a very clear identity crisis. the game feels so clunky.
the Specialists are definetly from EA because MONEY
And the BR theory yeah no
The investors probably went "hey that Warzone game is doing really good, make it like that!" But they wanted it out by the holiday season so there's practically no content.
@@Hiraeth-0X its a pretty convincing theory for me,they wanted that br money they tried it with bfv but if failed so they tried again except making it the focus so to make sure to get the br money but br's eventually stared losing popularity now there's only the 3 br's people care about and everything else is dead so they needed to actually make the rest of the game.they had the gamemode,characters,and maps made for a br but ham fisted it into the battlefield formula
Ea had a good class based shooter with pvz gardenwarfare but then they fucked that up :(
JFJ prides himself of being a good gladiator in combat. But in his heart, he's a diehard medic who will run through hell, poison, anomalies, gunfire, napalm, taxes, unpopular opinions, the fitness gram pacer test, more bullets, and wemon to revive a singular teammate that might not even thank him. A true American.
All men and countries will fight to the death but they can never wish the fitness gram pacer test on each other for it is too cruel...
I try to always thank the medics, they rarely look at me long enough to see my nodding and crouching though :(
@@notanaveragedoktah8390 it changes people
"This is not a Battlefield, it's just a shooter"
GOLD WORDS
he ain't wrong
honestly what hurts me the most is that the trailers looked _fun_
what they were showing held so much game potential, the icing on the cake being that it seemed they were embracing what made battlefield unique compared to other games on the market
and that just . didn't happen
but i guess that's just the aaa curse isn't it
The definition of tripping over the last hurdle. The problem is AAA companies don’t listen to actual reviewers like JFJ anymore, only sycophants and dicksuckers. Too stuck up their own ass to realise what their players want, as opposed to what the investors want.
@@anonylemon9823 hell, that'd be implying they actually look for criticism in reviews anymore to begin with
they just pay off whoever they can to speak positively about the game in "review" videos
@@notandum Good news is Elden Ring is looking good. Bad news, Battlefield looks worse then ass, cause at least ass can have upsides, this ain't even dirt. You can play with dirt. You add water, you got mud, you can use some dirt like pocket sand, and you get a free piss off your significant other by walking in covered in it. I don't want to touch this game. You though, you have a great day from my rambling dumbass.
I'm having fun. So enjoy your slop.
@@AnAmericanMusician I'm glad your enjoying it (.. no sarcasm actually. Some poor underpaid programmer was made to make this, someone enjoying it despite the bullshit is a good thing)
I’ve never played a Battlefield game, but even I understand the problem of making unique ‘hero’ characters in a game where there are dozens of players on both sides dying over and over in a single match.
It simply doesn’t feel right. If these guys are so unique and special, why are they on the frontlines being fed to the meat grinder? The whole point of Battlefield is just that you’re just another footsoldier, ready to die and do your own little bit. Not some action hero who single handedly saves the day.
TF2 has unique "hero" characters just clashing at each other relentlessly on explosive-filled places, but they managed to be actually distinguishable from one player to another with the customization for weapons that actually mattered and the existence of sub-class that may change the playstyle and even how the match is played out radically.
@@aereonexapprentice7205
And even then, TF2 has style and the characters are *ACTUALLY* characters and not: "Soldier #41" A.K.A. Beanbag paste the Serbian Cyberhero. I still despise the choice of heros in Battlefield
@@aereonexapprentice7205 The reason why TF2 works so good with "heroes" is that each character has a theme and their own stats. Each character has different health values, and equipment tuned to their theme. A battle engineer with Frontier Justice and mini sentry still plays like an engineer, just more with a bit different and more aggressive playstyle.
BF2042 on the other hand is operators with a different themed gadget but everything else is swappable, so they all feel the same except for voicelines and a single slot on the loadout. If everybody can be anything, and everybody is special, no one is. Also even though BF games have "generic soldier" as their character, the class limitations to weapons and possible equipment made each class feel unique instead of blurring all the classes together like a bad AI generated face.
Tf2 and gardenwarfare are the only good class based shooters, change my mind
@@Sleepy_Cabbage That’s because they’re the only ones that actually make sense in universe. Cloning seems to exist in the TF2 universe, and multiple plants in PvZ has been an established thing by the time Garden Warfare came out.
JFJ is better then EA at this point, he adds updates to his videos
He also cares about the content he’s putting out, too
Anything is better than ea at this point
They literally just dropped a patch…
Not to put down J at all, but EA is the worst in the business anymore
@@misosoupisgood No, DICE dropped a patch, EA did nothing but offer false promises and transparent lies. EA deserves to burn.
The fact that he gets "Most Revives" of the round consistently with just like 10 revives is both hilarious and tragic at the same time
I use to be the medic who got everyone in bf5 I always went 70-13 with 30 revives but in 2042 fuck that I quit a medic character way to many dead players at one time lol
@@cleeter1938 What’s changed compared to other games ? Does anyone just go the easy way out instead of waiting for a revive ?
@@TheAtmosfear7 there's not much of a indicator that a medic is nearby and most people either aren't playing the 2 medic characters or if they are there not reviving anyway because they just want to shoot people
The problem is the 2 characters that can revive outside of the squad don't really have good gadgets.
One gets a little syringe revolver that heals over time (that can technically kill enemies too which is kinda fun) but it's a slow firing projectile which makes it feel terrible and I'm pretty sure the hitreg is bugged.
The other gets...a loadout crate. Not a resupply crate. A crate that lets you switch your loadout.
Battlefield theme, fart reverb midi remix.
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Love to see that, instead of making a variant of the takedown where you stab a prone opponent , your character *lifts them to their feet.* Before stabbing them.
“Hey bro can you get up so I can stab you?”
I remember when the top player in battlefield 5 was a medic with 23-10 k/d and the second place was 46-5. It's really telling what's wrong with bf2042 when 18 revives was the highest in 124 player game. Take my opinion with a grain of salt though, my first battlefield is 5.
Go fucking play battlefield 1 rn! Its dirt cheap at this point
@@obisvanainobis9950 bf1 is still in the top 3 battlefields for me
18 revives in a game was the bare MINIMUM in older Battlefield games. Medics were gods in terms of being able to help keep the fight localized in an area.
Now the player base of this game is a bunch of twitchy players who don’t want to stick to a team.
Hopefully the longer the games been out the more people realize to play support roles.
No you’re 100% right in battlefield 2 there was no revive counter so people would just go revive train each other over and over and revive trains lasted in all the battlefields up till this one. I remember in metro in BF3 and 4 you’d have trains of medics reviving people.
With the specialists and lack of indicators like seeing medics when your down etc, it's obvious that the game revolved entirely around Hazard Zone during development, but was switched round last minute with a silhouette of Battlefield games stapled on top
kinda sad cuz hazard zone is probably one of the most pointless additions to this game
@@lifeispain404 its the most polished piece of shit in the pile of shit called battlefield 2042
The only new fun thing I saw in this game is that you can make a swarm of shields and you can climb buildings with a hovercraft. Cool and funny to see and do, but not worth the trouble.
Despite the historical inaccuracies in bfv with its customization. I had so much fun with it! You could make the most badass getmans, Americans, Japanese or British and it was fun! My guns were epic with cool guns and each had their own outfits since there were so many options! Sad to see they made a hero shooter. Not to mention none of the unique melee from V
And like you were asking there was a feature in v and 1 were you could mark the person you’re running to and they’ll get a different market at the bottom saying a medic is coming for YOU
Agreed heavily.
i usually pick female characters in shooters because sometimes their hit boxes are smaller.
@@maxthibodeau3627 ash in r6 is a huge example of this
@@grikkajunior you cant get headshot if you dont have a head
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Summary:
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because J was already dead.
Csgo’ed moment
There is a bloom bug currently making hit registration god awful
@@casualspawnpeeking3680
the joke
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your head
It looks to me that the decision to change the class character system into a hero character one was following a trend. It is normal for a business to try to follow a trend and make it work. Though, It feels like change for the sake of change, no meaning other than to make it interesting and not thinking about incorporating properly. Guess I'll stick to a different game.
Also, the knife take-downs are jank. If the knife kill is going to be that quick in third person, sticking to first person may have been better, in my opinion.
Allies giving up on a revive seems to persist through games, apparently.
The meaning is to sell you more heros.
@@ian-op5fv Bingo.
The 3rd person takedowns are to sell more battlepasses
JFJ is mildly amused at but ultimately extremely disappointed at Dice
"УРАААААА!!!"
*Runs at a tank with a shield*
This feels like the most average shooter I’ve ever played
Hearing JFJ make BFFs references makes me smile
I don't get why they went "let's advertise this as a return to formula, hey guys it's so Battlefield again isn't it?" and then slapped on random features for literally no reason.
I've always loved Battlefield, and 2042 can be good, but I just can't understand how they managed to change *too* much. They had like the golden formula, just make a Battlefield game like 4 or 3 that's new and shiny and boom game of the year for loads of people, there's so much cool shit here, but you're too restricted compared to every other Battlefield game so you can't enjoy any of it. It can be good, it can be fixed, I'm almost certain they'll fix it and make it good, but for now all 2042 has done for Battlefield is make me remember how good the old games were.
As someone who's played on console (and currently making the move to PC) I can garantee you that half of us are cool and ok people that can actually play the objective with teamwork while the other half are braindead idiots that just look around, shoot at things, die and leave the game.
I've been playing Battlefield since Battlefield 2, I still have a disc copy of that game on my shelf.
I don't even know what to think about 2042. The main thing about the BF franchise compared to games like COD was the squad play, the team work, about you and your squad of buddies fucking dominating the enemy because you had an amazing medic, a great support who keeps your boys loaded up, a wicked sniper who uses gadgets to spot enemies for you and an assault to smash some fools.
Yes the layout of these classes has changed over time, with gadgets falling into different roles, but each role was identifiable at even a glance.
That's what 2042 lacks. Identity. If you showed this game to someone in 2014 when BF4 was at the height of it's power without context that 2042 was a BF game they likely wouldn't even recognize it as being one.
Sure Portal might be fun, but you shouldn't have to play a custom game mode to get the experience your franchise is built off of. It's a very poor decision that is honestly baffling to the mind how they thought it was a good idea.
I don't think I'll be getting 2042, at least not for a while.
I feel you JFJ, this didn't really feel like a Battlefield game. And as someone who used to run the Special Forces class just to blow up my enemy commanders radar and UAV stations, that's saying something.
P.S: I honestly believe they should NOT have made 2042 as it was. They should of made Battlefield Portal: The Game.
@Dick Izzinya yea they'll see that portal is the most popular and make packs of content from older games
@@badasscrusader and then people will go back and play those *better games.* Why pay for a content pack when you can get an entire game full of the same content, but with more?
@@SouperWy well that was 7 months ago and now there's nothing they can do to save that sunken ship,my thoughts were they going to hope to nostalgia bait to keep the player base up but they just didn't do anything instead and let the ship sink so good riddance to bad garbage
@@badasscrusader true dat
“Hero” thing is like, “You can put it in any game, But the question is Should you really put it in? Like you can eat SH*T but Should you? You can out salt into any thing, But should you put them onto cake like it’s icing?”
17:52 Love that BFFs reference
It sucks that this game does some good things and some good new ideas such as the wingsuit and grappling hook but the fact that it's overweighted by the bad is just dissapointing to anyone that has as much as a 100 hours into a battlefield game
You know something went wrong when the vehicles can bloody heal themselves.
Well there’s no teamwork anymore so you can’t count on teammates. Of course they have to now. Remember bad company 2 or battlefield 3? How each class was defined and easy to understand? Not anymore.
9:38 is that really a 45-70 Gvt rifle? I feel gross now
Edit: the hero system should've worked like it did in battlefront
@Wyatt yes
That hovercraft was the gift that kept on giving. I saw it climb up the building and I'm like "there's no fucking way. that's a glitch." and then I saw them glide from one building to another and I said " no there's no way, you can't be serious. It's not gonna... IT FUCKIN WORKED!!?"
I think they should add a template soldier, the traditionally masked random soldier type. Take any special gadget with any gear, any gun. Have them an optional "character" with the specialists, but just an open template.
2042 had one of the best atmospheres that could allow for player customization. Could've had no-pats from any nationality, any military organization, plus the equipment from those countries. Instead, we get an abomination of a hero shooter all for the microtransactions. It's all so tiresome.
Imagine the game if every gadget was available to every class regardless of operator. This is what EA took from you
Everyone’s quick to say bugs will be fixed whenever issues with the game are brought up, but I feel the issues lay with the framework of the game itself, not just the bugs on top
I have only played battlefield 1, it was a pretty fun experience while not feeling unrealistic. It had pretty good customization with weapons and tools unique to the Great War, charging headfirst into battle at the sound of a whistle gave me goosebumps, gameplay was unbalanced to be real but each class was still useful and most weapons are fun to use. I could just feel the exaggerated swagger of a traumatized french conscript. Anyways the recent trend of battlefield games seems to be a nosedive with bf1 being the last great one before the *downward spiral*
I'm glad to see that my money is being well spent somewhere other than 2042 on launch day, thank GOD
6:04 my man turned into muscle man
28:40 this is what makes the game "Okay" in my book. This whole sequence onward is a blessing and a curse.
Man, started with 1942, being 1942 and 2142 my most played Battlefield games. Seeing Battlefield like this... makes me sad.
22:25
I gotta agree with you there, they should have really gone with the COD Cold War route of just skins you can use like Maxis or Captain Price
I feel you with that last question... that stuff in the wrong hands can have some pretty strong effects on families, it changed the trajectory of my childhood quite a bit and obviously not for the better so I swore it off for the sake of my family down the line
18:08 the leaving the game animation looks pretty sick, i like that
You know something funny is going on when everyone flocks to Portal and the sort-of-remakes almost immediately after installing.
Also love the BFFs reference there boyo
7:30 "So guys, we did it. We reached a quarter of a million subscribers"
Patch Notes:
Reduced the range of Dozer's shield bash because players were actually having fun
EA after watching 17:16 : "Buy this game." - JFJ, 2021
Him quoting bff’s was the best part of the video
JFJ: *Lists a bunch of good reasons not to drink*
Me: Alcohol tastes bad...
Love how the wingsuit thing can just slam straight into the ground and take no damage, no parachute needed
All that lore and no singleplayer.
‘number 1 most revives out of 124 people’ to me just says a lot about how even if you’re downed within a whole group of teammates, no one will want to revive you even if they’re made to do so
This reminds me of the time got sick from subway, how does that relate to battlefield. It doesn't just like this fucking game
HOLY SHIT JFJ The nearby Medic was a thing in BFV. People would still off themselves if im right next to them, and Medics would also run by me. But still.
JFJ gliding on the walls of skyscrapers was something I didn't know I needed to see
I think it just got released way too early.
Not to mention I don't think they understand adding in unwanted mechanics like the mercenaries or agents with specific abilities is going to also hurt the core game.
Honestly if they ran the customization they did in BF-V it would've definitely worked here.
Funny thing that you brought up the individual skin purchase for the different specialists, since BFV had the Elites which are basically the same thing as specialists but without the dumb specific gadgets and they each had their own unique Merle weapon usable on all characters and classes
My first real battlefield game was BF 1, and the ability to heal your vehicle was already mega broken. The fact that vehicles now self-heal...wtf???
A Battlefield friends reference in a JFJ vid? AND its about the Colonel?
Nut.
"Stop buying their games " meanwhile JFJ , buys the most expensive version of battlefield 2042 on release
I never said I was immune to it. I buy games I need to not do. We are all apart of the problem.
I appreciate you for not drinking. You're a good man and you're doing it for all the right reasons. Keep up the good work mr. FJ
I've heard a lot of rumors that BF2042 was originally designed as a battle royale and was turned into a more typical battlefield game part way through development.
Stuff like the massive maps, hero characters and very limited weapon variety would make a lot of sense in a battle royale game, but don't work in a battlefield game.
Reviving your teammate only to get stuck and die is the equivalent of getting a room in AIT on one of the first floors but getting a brickwall window view
17:52 love the Battlefield Friends reference
Just checked out the 2042 main theme, it genuinely sounds like they played the main theme on a recorder, distorted it, and threw a ton of other scuffed sounds on it.
was fun being in the stream and seeing just how much "walking from place to place" was cut
Good video J and thanks for your vids it’s probably one of the last I’ll see because I’m trying to just drop RUclips with the way they removed dislikes and are trying to mute people’s opinions I’m really just getting tired of social media in general because it’s becoming more controlling when it should be the other way around but you were one of the good things about it
i like how bf2042 took everything that 2042 didnt need from MW but didnt take their operators system
6:01 amazing muscle man impression
5:18
I felt that enthusiasm
That pain at unskippable video tutorials is real, I felt that.
Seeing jfj laugh and be happy is the best thing that has ever happened to me. Somthing about it is just the raddest. Stay awesome J
My first game of Hazard Zone my team got a drive, dropped in the OP car, killed two squads and stole their shit, extracted. All in all I would play again, but not the way it currently is with how squads are set up, there's no way to play solo (and even if there was, the OBJs suck for solo play), extracts being limit 2 is interesting, but with the way battlefield is supposed to be played there's really no merit there.
I'd rather have a map be constant and extracts be just drones that take the drives away so you can go back in and fight more. Make drives constantly fall from the sky, extracts be in specific marked out areas that get pinged whenever someone goes for it, and add buy stations for purchase of guns, gadgets, and ammo after extracts. Then when a player wants to leave the game they can do the thing in BF4 with the balloon and big plane that yoinks you for a refund on gear purchased in game.
6:01 That Muscle-Man cry killed me
I had tons of fun playing, but that was cause I was paying with friends. Did not feel like i was playing 3,4, or 5 at all. I can play those ones by myself for a good while, but not 2042.
A good speculation from my brother was that the reason for the very large maps and specialists, is that they originally were basing the game for battle royal early in development.
With how much the game busts itself, it's pretty much already a battle royal.
14:35
literally my entire experience as a Medic in Battlefield 1
U make this game so much more fun that it looks
I salute You J for dealing with this
I cant believe that this game single-handedly solved racism by telling you how much they care about you respecting their diverse cast of characters
That rage at having to listen to the conquest tutorial was great, haha
17:50 nice Battlefield Friends reference.
i agree with everything J said in this video, but i gotta say, i love the music, the toaster, the pots and pans loading screen, its pretty damn good.
26:13 that was amazing. Straight out of a movie, I want to know who that guy is.
I'm personally not much of a bf3 or 4 fan (Even thought I still sank a crap ton of time into 4) And I really enjoyed bf1 and , despite it's distasteful non-historical stuff, 5.
When I played the beta the game was everything I was scared it was going to be, a regression to all those things I found unpleasant about the game-feel of bf4 without those things that kept me coming back. Thankyou for getting a great video out of this thing at least!
Also Bc2 is my all time favorite!
I've never played a single Call of Duty or Battlefield game in my life and I'm looking forward to keeping it that way.
What they should do is make it so you can pick your operator perks. So you can be bush man with a Wingsuit rather than forcing you. They won't go back to the old as it would be a LOT of work.
I think, given a few months, will be sick. But as of now... Halo Infinite exists...
They should add some smaller maps with smaller player counts. Basically future Battlefield 4 maps.
The only time I’ve ever returned an item I bought
Yooo I never saw my name pop up on the donation list until I saw this video. I love your content and you're my favorite creator, J
I''ve been a Battlefield player for a while now (since 2142) so when they announced this game I was pretty hyped ! I played the open beta for 2 hours and it was enough to convince me not to buy the game.
BfV is very fun. I bought it recently and played around 400 hours just in a few months. I usually don’t use vehicles in Bf games, but BfV’s tank balance was amazing.
It feels like they could have had the normal class system AND the sick specialist gadgets. Bring back all the usual classes, but put an extra gadget slot for specialist gadgets. Also, make them class specific. Recon gets Casper’s drone (and maybe wingsuit idk) for example. Engineer can have Liz’s rocket launcher and Sundance’s grenades to choose between. You get the idea.
But EA had to have their monetization.
That was hilarious to watch. Also enjoyed the rants. You've earned a sub my man!
It really doesn't look like a war is going on. Like there's no debris, discarded vehicles or anything on the ground that makes it look like its an actual battlefield. It looks like a simulation.
The only thing holding this game together is Portal
seeing the same like 8 people running around over and over looks ridiculous why did they do that
6:01 the muscle man impression😂
14:36 From what I read on PCGamer, Update #3, which is coming in December, would add
- A UI that tells you who can revive you when downed,
- Resource icon above players that shows they can provide health or ammo when you're low on either
- You can ping to downed players that you're coming to revive them
- Some things for portal
- Some other shit that they don't specify
The first two should've been in the game at launch, while the last one is a neat addition, that should help make things easier to get people back up before they off themselves. Portal stuff is nice.
I'll sum up BF2042 as a good shooter game, for people looking to unga bunga head empty shoot game, but a bad Battlefield game, looking for the objective heavy teamwork game, with lots of space, vehicles, and players. Funnily enough(or not funnily, depending on who you ask) you can compare BF2042's reception to B4B's receptions, in that fans of the originals aren't happy with the changes while the people that are looking for something different or are new to the space are fine with the change in formula.
The first two exists for BFV already, you're right; Why wasnt it in launch is baffling
Holy shit that hovercraft climbing was fucking hilarious
So check this out. Every game (with the exception of bfv) having you play as a generic, soldier #1563673 instead of setting you up with a operator was a very good thing in my opinion since it helped immerse you into each match you played. Playing as that random, nameless soldier amongst the other nameless soldiers on your team made it feel like you were apart of that conflict even more. You don't really get that feeling with these operators, especially since your bound to run into yourself sooner or later down the line.
Furthermore, like J said, having the class system being reflected on how each soldier looked...fucking worked. For example, in each game (again with the exception of Bfv somewhat) you always knew who your medic was, who your engineer was, sniper, and support. Hell, I can tell out a medic in BF:H alot better than in Bf2042.
I love Battlefield a lot, hands down. But from what I've seen so far, it feels like a glorified Modern Warfare.
This is the type of game where you wait a year to see if they fix it in the ways it needs before deciding to buy or not.