I love the "No" variant better, because both the player and Kris _agree_ that this is FUBAR and they allow them to say it like it is. It's just like that rare moment of synchronicity.
something makes me feel weird about ralsei. It feels like he knows something that we don't. I have a feeling that he is going to play a bigger role in chapter 3.
Something to think about... in the snowgrave route, when you reach Noelle's room, Ralsei does the transition to make the player go to Susie's point of view. 'Don't you wonder', etc, etc. But it doesn't switch. And here's the key thing, *_Ralsei recognises that we don't switch._* He repeats what he said in hopes it would make us switch. Then starts to wait after seeing it didn't work. And when Susie reemerges again afterwards, he says 'Wait, we were supposed to-', most likely in reference to switching POVs. Meaning he knows about us switching POVs. He also asks Susie about what happened in there afterwards, maybe trying to let us, the player, know what happened in there as we didn't see it? Or possibly could *he* see what we see when we switch to Susie's POV, which is why he asks about what happened in there. And maybe, just maybe, when we're watching Susie, Kris is in control as our soul isn't with them. And both times we switched to Susie's POV, Ralsei and Kris have been left alone with eachother. What could they be talking about... Especially considering the 'So that's why...' we see after both times we switch back to Kris's POV in the Normal Route
@@Tesseract61987He also has shown he has lied to Kris and Susie. He claimed in chapter 1 that he’d never left the dark world and had never met anyone. Yet he knew Susie and Kris by name, in chapter 2 he knew there was an east classroom and that contained the card castle people. His explanation for knowing where and how to get to cyber world is non existent, and has brushed off a lot of major events for no reason. He def knows more than he’s letting on, i dont think he’s evil i think he is just aware of the player controlling Kris and is trying to keep us in the dark as much as possible. This would also be why in this scene if you say yes he acts like nothings wrong with Kris. Could be smth more tho. Interestingly, the character tea that you can get from the vendor in cyber city, depending on the relationship it changes how much it heals. like if noelle drinks Susie's tea its like 400 hp cuz she has a crush on her. Kris drinking susies is like 120 same thing vice versa. Whats weird is no matter how well u treat ralsei, kris drinking his tea is a whopping like 60 hp. literally the only one lower than that is noelle and ralsei who i dont think have even spoke. Kris for whatever reason really doesnt like ralsei (possibly because of resemblance to brother but why would he hate asriel?)
What about this ... Ralsei is a complete liar, he lied to us about the dark fountains and is actually interested in opening new fountains to get more subjects (power). And accordingly, he will be the final villain and works in cahoots with the soulless Kris. Therefore, the only way to effectively fight him is to follow the path of Genocide and not allow him to gain new subjects. And that is why it's critically important for us (the player) to make Noelle strong and so that she listens to US and not Kris. Because we will use her in the final confrontation with Ralsei and soulless Kris.
Freedom is a big concept in Deltarune. Jevil, Spamton, and Kris are all not free, in their own sad ways. Jevil spent almost his whole life locked in his cage, believing he was free. He wasn't, but he managed to convince himself that he was the ONLY free one while everyone outside was trapped. This coincides with him being a joker, as they can usually beat every card in the game but are rarely used. This is similar to Jevil's situation, where he do anything but had been locked in a cage the entire time, not allowed to do his things. Meanwhile, Spamton and Kris know they are not free. Spamton is controlled by who-knows-what, and Kris is controlled by the player. Spamton even painted the walls of his shop to look like the outside world. While Jevil persuaded himself to think he was free and succeeded, Spamton and Kris persuaded themselves to believe they were free but failed. This was why Kris was so shaken up and fighting Spamton. They saw Spamton's insanity and how their situation was the same.
@@archetypalheart7572 definetly!! Thats probably what got Kris so shaken up- imagen what theyre thanking right now. Theyre probably thinking that they will never have control becuse if they do brake free they will just die!
If you want to feel even more guilty during the game, keep in mind the fact that Kris is a child or at best a teenager. They can't be more than 14. In childhood, apparently, they were quite easy to manipulate, but with age this trait disappeared. And now, Kris, who has already learned not to trust everyone, is simply being taken under control from nothing. Even when Susie asks Kris specifically if they are okay, the choice of answer is left to the player. They can't even call for help.
I think they’re older than that. Berdly has a part time job and most places you gotta be at least 15 to work. Plus Kris can somewhat drive as seen in the part with Queen and Noelle. Id wager they are closer to 15-17, no older than 18 probably in Junior or year around 16-17
This is such a chilling animation. I especially like how when Susie says "broke," it looks more like she's referring to Kris breaking rather than Spamton. I thought that was a nice touch. I got goosebumps!
I just got Deltarune on my little brother's Nintendo and when doing Ras's dummy fight. I didn't want to hug the dummy for Kris's sake but I had no choice to do it since I tried checking it multiplie times didn't work to spare it. I'm sorry Kris. 😭
This is so awesome! I love your designs of the characters, and my favorite little detail is Spamton's glasses turning to static when they break. Great work :D
Or that at some point we get the option to willfully leave his body from time to time so he can do a bit more, untie some of the strings, give him a bit of freedom, and maybe have a healthy soul to body relationship (of course that would be hard coded so whatever Kris does doesn't advance the story and can't get in a battle) and that the chapters advanced a bit differently with that factor, if you take any snowgrave like route that option just jumps out the window, but if you play Pascifist, it could bring a whole 'nother meaning to souless Pascifist
@@martinmoraurena4155 Makes sense, the Genocide route is the idea that the Player is a evil peice of crap, knowingly causing chaos to the world of deltarune. - the Pacifist route is the Good Player who understands what is going on, and they want to help the world and Kris along with it. Chapter 2 already killed off berdly, and soon the entire town will be dead. either by our own hands, or the influenced actions of our own party members like Noelle, who we slowly corroupt into Making her cast snowgrave on berdly. this game is gonna be very META and I'm all here for it. and no, I have never done any of the Genocide routes in either game.
@@martinmoraurena4155hey, they use they/them. I’m sorry for correcting you, but it’s frustrating to see people go “I hope Kris gets their freedom!” and then…. not use their pronouns?? You’re saying that Kris is their own person, but then you’re just ignoring the information we get about them?
AHHHHHHH THIS ANIMATION (animatic?) IS SO COOLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!! I LOVE THE SUBTLE SHIFTING IN THE CHARACTERS POSES AND THE WAY YOU INTERPRETED THE SCENES TO LOOK MORE DRAMATIC. UGHHHHH AND THE SOUND EFFECTS AND MUSIC. One of my fave dt animatics, no, my FAVOURITE dt animatic so far
I really liked this! I do love the "NO!" variant more cause both the player and Kris agree this possession is not good and we just allow Kris to speak freely and in-sync with us. A rare but meaningful moment of synchronicity.
I understand Susie mentioning strings and puppets, because Spamton directly mentioned them and was talking about them constantly. But... hands??? Hands are associated with Gaster and Windings, not with Spamton.
I think Kris (the REAL Kris, not us controlling him) saw Spamton as a genuine friend, and was horrified seeing what happened to him. That, and it reminded him of his own situation “being on strings like a puppet”.
I love the "No" variant better, because both the player and Kris _agree_ that this is FUBAR and they allow them to say it like it is. It's just like that rare moment of synchronicity.
Same
Bro ur not smart
same fr🔥
had to look up what fubar meant lmfao
it means:
Fucked
Up
Beyond
All
Recognition
Us: Holy shit what the hell even happened?!
Kris: *traumatized*
That "Before the Story" really hit.
Exactly what I was thinking
Its just once upon a time with a different soundfont but yes
something makes me feel weird about ralsei. It feels like he knows something that we don't. I have a feeling that he is going to play a bigger role in chapter 3.
Something to think about... in the snowgrave route, when you reach Noelle's room, Ralsei does the transition to make the player go to Susie's point of view. 'Don't you wonder', etc, etc. But it doesn't switch. And here's the key thing, *_Ralsei recognises that we don't switch._* He repeats what he said in hopes it would make us switch. Then starts to wait after seeing it didn't work. And when Susie reemerges again afterwards, he says 'Wait, we were supposed to-', most likely in reference to switching POVs. Meaning he knows about us switching POVs.
He also asks Susie about what happened in there afterwards, maybe trying to let us, the player, know what happened in there as we didn't see it? Or possibly could *he* see what we see when we switch to Susie's POV, which is why he asks about what happened in there. And maybe, just maybe, when we're watching Susie, Kris is in control as our soul isn't with them. And both times we switched to Susie's POV, Ralsei and Kris have been left alone with eachother. What could they be talking about... Especially considering the 'So that's why...' we see after both times we switch back to Kris's POV in the Normal Route
@@Tesseract61987He also has shown he has lied to Kris and Susie. He claimed in chapter 1 that he’d never left the dark world and had never met anyone. Yet he knew Susie and Kris by name, in chapter 2 he knew there was an east classroom and that contained the card castle people. His explanation for knowing where and how to get to cyber world is non existent, and has brushed off a lot of major events for no reason. He def knows more than he’s letting on, i dont think he’s evil i think he is just aware of the player controlling Kris and is trying to keep us in the dark as much as possible. This would also be why in this scene if you say yes he acts like nothings wrong with Kris.
Could be smth more tho. Interestingly, the character tea that you can get from the vendor in cyber city, depending on the relationship it changes how much it heals.
like if noelle drinks Susie's tea its like 400 hp cuz she has a crush on her. Kris drinking susies is like 120
same thing vice versa. Whats weird is no matter how well u treat ralsei, kris drinking his tea is a whopping like 60 hp. literally the only one lower than that is noelle and ralsei who i dont think have even spoke. Kris for whatever reason really doesnt
like ralsei (possibly because of resemblance to brother but why would he hate asriel?)
What about this ... Ralsei is a complete liar, he lied to us about the dark fountains and is actually interested in opening new fountains to get more subjects (power). And accordingly, he will be the final villain and works in cahoots with the soulless Kris. Therefore, the only way to effectively fight him is to follow the path of Genocide and not allow him to gain new subjects. And that is why it's critically important for us (the player) to make Noelle strong and so that she listens to US and not Kris. Because we will use her in the final confrontation with Ralsei and soulless Kris.
@@Tesseract61987 "Kris is in control as our soul isn't with him" who's him
@@PeterBoyMC Ah, sorry. Ill fix it now
Freedom is a big concept in Deltarune.
Jevil, Spamton, and Kris are all not free, in their own sad ways.
Jevil spent almost his whole life locked in his cage, believing he was free. He wasn't, but he managed to convince himself that he was the ONLY free one while everyone outside was trapped. This coincides with him being a joker, as they can usually beat every card in the game but are rarely used. This is similar to Jevil's situation, where he do anything but had been locked in a cage the entire time, not allowed to do his things.
Meanwhile, Spamton and Kris know they are not free. Spamton is controlled by who-knows-what, and Kris is controlled by the player.
Spamton even painted the walls of his shop to look like the outside world. While Jevil persuaded himself to think he was free and succeeded, Spamton and Kris persuaded themselves to believe they were free but failed.
This was why Kris was so shaken up and fighting Spamton. They saw Spamton's insanity and how their situation was the same.
And seeing Spamton NEO collapse probably made Kris wonder if that would happen to them without our control
@@archetypalheart7572 definetly!! Thats probably what got Kris so shaken up- imagen what theyre thanking right now. Theyre probably thinking that they will never have control becuse if they do brake free they will just die!
@@stormfiretheog9183also explains why kris puts the souls pack after they take it out
I didn't realize until you said it that Spamton's shop could be painted like that for a reason. Cool insight!
In a way I’d say we aren’t free either, we are forced to exist in a body that isn’t our own, some may exploit it but others make the best
If you want to feel even more guilty during the game, keep in mind the fact that Kris is a child or at best a teenager. They can't be more than 14. In childhood, apparently, they were quite easy to manipulate, but with age this trait disappeared. And now, Kris, who has already learned not to trust everyone, is simply being taken under control from nothing. Even when Susie asks Kris specifically if they are okay, the choice of answer is left to the player. They can't even call for help.
I think they’re older than that. Berdly has a part time job and most places you gotta be at least 15 to work. Plus Kris can somewhat drive as seen in the part with Queen and Noelle. Id wager they are closer to 15-17, no older than 18 probably in Junior or year around 16-17
Well, he needs a pro gamer to fight the secret bosses and get the equipment or at least a guide so Kris does it without player’s help
I love that about the game...
17, I'd guess?
This is such a chilling animation. I especially like how when Susie says "broke," it looks more like she's referring to Kris breaking rather than Spamton. I thought that was a nice touch. I got goosebumps!
Please do a follow up to when you say “No”. It’s my *favorite* :)
I just got Deltarune on my little brother's Nintendo and when doing Ras's dummy fight. I didn't want to hug the dummy for Kris's sake but I had no choice to do it since I tried checking it multiplie times didn't work to spare it. I'm sorry Kris. 😭
* i .... i'm so ok don't cry ok 😟
@@WhiteMatterForShorts or attacking
@@KrisUltrainstinto80 oh hey another me, cool. how are you?
I don't get it, if you are talking about Ralsei dummy tutorial I don't know why hugging it is something bad or that you should avoid "For Kris's sake"
The two scenes with the red-eye-blur (resembling strings too) was great.
i love the silly shots of the dealmaker reflecting on kris' mood
This is so awesome! I love your designs of the characters, and my favorite little detail is Spamton's glasses turning to static when they break. Great work :D
It's an interesting, weird and dark video. Congrats to the whole team that made it!
This video deserves more attention.
now i need this animation but answering "no"
Underrated Animation
C’mon, man
The feels
Don’t give me such a terminal case of the feels
I know this is all serious and honestly really good animation(?) but I love how Kris is the shortest one
this scene was already cute asf but this made it cuter i love it
Interesting how the glasses were full of TV static when they got crushed
I Do want what is best for Kris in the end...I hope we can relay that to him at somepoint.
Or that at some point we get the option to willfully leave his body from time to time so he can do a bit more, untie some of the strings, give him a bit of freedom, and maybe have a healthy soul to body relationship (of course that would be hard coded so whatever Kris does doesn't advance the story and can't get in a battle) and that the chapters advanced a bit differently with that factor, if you take any snowgrave like route that option just jumps out the window, but if you play Pascifist, it could bring a whole 'nother meaning to souless Pascifist
@@martinmoraurena4155 Makes sense, the Genocide route is the idea that the Player is a evil peice of crap, knowingly causing chaos to the world of deltarune.
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the Pacifist route is the Good Player who understands what is going on, and they want to help the world and Kris along with it.
Chapter 2 already killed off berdly, and soon the entire town will be dead.
either by our own hands, or the influenced actions of our own party members like Noelle, who we slowly corroupt into Making her cast snowgrave on berdly.
this game is gonna be very META and I'm all here for it.
and no, I have never done any of the Genocide routes in either game.
them
@@martinmoraurena4155hey, they use they/them. I’m sorry for correcting you, but it’s frustrating to see people go “I hope Kris gets their freedom!” and then…. not use their pronouns?? You’re saying that Kris is their own person, but then you’re just ignoring the information we get about them?
Love how the steps make the medoly in the pre-fight music of jevil and Spamton (that two low notes then a high one loop)
AHHHHHHH THIS ANIMATION (animatic?) IS SO COOLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!! I LOVE THE SUBTLE SHIFTING IN THE CHARACTERS POSES AND THE WAY YOU INTERPRETED THE SCENES TO LOOK MORE DRAMATIC. UGHHHHH AND THE SOUND EFFECTS AND MUSIC. One of my fave dt animatics, no, my FAVOURITE dt animatic so far
im way too obsessed with this silly goober THE ANGST IS JUST ✨✨✨✨
This is amazing!! I'm really surprised that it doesn't have more views
Me : Kris im not the threat here towards you
Others : *Snowgrave exist for a reason*
oh my god this is so cool!! i love the way you did facial expressions. and your framing is great!!
I really liked this! I do love the "NO!" variant more cause both the player and Kris agree this possession is not good and we just allow Kris to speak freely and in-sync with us. A rare but meaningful moment of synchronicity.
This was really good. Shame it doesn't have more views. But it was recommended to me today, so maybe that means more people will see it soon.
Amazing animation! I love it. It was so sad and heartwarming at the same time...
This is SO underrated 😭
My friends cheering me up when I feel down like this fr
I really like the detail of Kris being uncomfortable with Ralsei's offer of the scarf with the romantic(?) undertone. Good stuff.
Susie hug by chapter 8, it will happen dammit!!
Wow, cool! :>
it doesnt matter if its not a high budget quality animation, its so good. GJ
Wonderfully done! I love it!
pretty well, good luck further
I wanna see how it turns out if you choose No instead. Great animation!
Ooohh now that hits it, just right!
Spamton is just like me!
Only i have schizophrenia
Love it!❤❤❤
This is so good… please make more deltarune content 🙏
Awesome job with this.
This is wonderful.
Dude Before The Story is so nostalgic to me😭
Really well done!
Love the No variant so much
woah. i love thisss
WHY DOES IT MAKE ME SADDDDDD
Hamton.
This is so cool
Ralsei, Master of Denial, honestly after this Chapter, I don´t trust him anymore
This is a great video I loved it :)
Woah!
good
I understand Susie mentioning strings and puppets, because Spamton directly mentioned them and was talking about them constantly. But... hands??? Hands are associated with Gaster and Windings, not with Spamton.
Of course it turned out cool...
oooooh kris
[kris] [KRIS] new content
I think Kris (the REAL Kris, not us controlling him) saw Spamton as a genuine friend, and was horrified seeing what happened to him. That, and it reminded him of his own situation “being on strings like a puppet”.
this gives me very bad vibes about ralsei
I HAVE NEVER CLICKED SO FAST IN MY LIFE
I Choose to say No
Where's the fight?
this is *after * the Spamton Neo fight :)
cool
wow.
* i get cold .....?❄😔