The Best On-Camera Shotgun Microphone: Sony ECM-B1M
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Finding a simple way to get great audio (especially in unpredictable environments) is always a challenge. The Sony ECM-B1M isn’t cheap, but it’s definitely the best overall video mic I’ve found and this video explains why!
Thank you @PeterLindgren1 for introducing me to the B1M. If you haven’t checked out Peter's channel, be sure to do so (plus you'll get to hear this mic in acton a lot)!
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0:59 - What About Smaller/Cheaper Mics?
1:38 - Sony vs. Rode Videomic NTG Features
3:49 - Sony Mic Controls
4:48 - Low Cut & Noise Cut Filters
6:13 - Directional Pickup Paterns
7:38 - Auto Audio (My Favorite Feature!)
9:46 - Pay Attention To Attenuation
11:04 - But Is It Really Worth The Price?
12:37 - Downsides To The Rode Videomic NTG
14:22 - Shock Mount Noise & Effectiveness
15:23 - Portability
16:06 - The Sony’s Biggest Issue: Availability
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Episode 315: The Best On-Camera Microphone You Can Get? 
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Great video, as usual! 👏😎
I literally ordered the ECM-B10 yesterday 😅 I wasn’t sure if I should get the B1M, but for more difficult places, I’m using a proper long shotgun.
Always important to know your specific needs! The B10 seems like a great super compact choice.
Small, no battery, no cables, quick setup, omni directional switch. I am sold! Ordered today! Thanks, Tom.
Glad you found one! I absolutely love mine 👍
The most helpful video thus far! Been battling using the manual setting and switched to auto and booom was like magic sounds great. Mind Blown
They thank man! That means a lot coming from you.
Great vid - I use the B1M for my field recordings and have been very happy with it. Super small and light and easy.
The convenience is absolutely worth the price 👍
I've never seen a channel with such well thought out, yet still equally as visually interesting, as this one. Really appreciate all the time you invest in putting out such first class content!
Wow, what an incredibly nice thing to read! Thank you so much Justin!
You made me buy a mkh 50 and now you’re making me buy a B1M!
Hey at least you're going to sound great 😬
Tom why are you videos so perfect every time! I have been so busy so I am catching up on some videos now and I forgot how stunning your editing and content was. Always so good!
Awwwww shucks, thank you Ash! And congrats again on all your channel's success! you've been doing such an incredible job with everything.
Awesome video! Thank you!!!
So glad it was helpful 👍
ok just stop... I am so jealous of you patio area. I just picked up the ECM-B10M and freaking LOVE it!! Also CONGRATULATIONS on 100k!!!
You don't get to fly helicopters to glaciers and then be jealous of me 😁
Fair point!
the little intro card is really nice at: 0:40 . the entire video was awesome, keep up the great work
I love playing around with those intros 😎
Thanks for this video.
You’re welcome Simon!
You’ve won me over with this explanation. Idk why I wasn’t subscribed. Great work!
Thanks Cody! I really appreciate that!
One day I would love to have one of these mics the K3M and auto mode is just gold! Sounds so good with no work! Great video
Sony really does some great stuff with audio. I forget that they've been making audio gear for more than half a century at this point, so they know what they're doing 👍
I just received the ECM-B10 and am blown away by it. Almost perfect out of the box.
I haven’t used that one but based on the reviews it’s just as awesome 👍
My favorite thing about your videos is your word play...and of course your office which is the perfect balance of color.
Thank you Dana! I really appreciate that! I spent last weekend redoing one of the side walls and now I'm so so happy with the office space! 😁
Great presentation of this mic. Not getting it because I'm saving up for the FX-3, whohoooo, but also because I already have a VideoMic NTG that I looove. You're the master of pin-pointing the possible issues and the real life examples are top notch. Oh, did I just notice the big 34" curved LG monitor in... vertical mode? Great solution for a long script I guess..
Ahh yes…the big beautiful monitor fell and broke immediately after filming this video. There’s a whole thing about it on my other channel 🤦🏻♂️
But yes, save for the FX3! That audio handle is so fantastic.
@@tombuck Oops, off to the other channel.....
Thanks for the explanation of this microphone! I wanted to brush it off when I first saw it...but I kept coming back to look at it. Not having any cables?! THAT is the biggest thing that attracts me!!!
Me too! I completely disregarded it. It wasn’t until I saw how well it worked for Peter that I realized it was a genuinely smart option.
You got me at “Cicadas buzzing in the desert. It's like I'm in an anime.”😂 Sounds great!
Nice one! Have you tried the newer, smaller B10 Sony mic and how does the sound compare? Will you do a comparison of these 2 mics too, pls?
I haven't tried that one, but the reviews are great for it. From what I understand, this one has a bit more reach, so that's why I wanted it for my needs.
I missed the boat on this mic when I purchased a Sony A7RIV system. It was in stock then, but I wasn't really shooting video, so I passed on it. I regretted that a year later...and poof...they were gone...out of stock. I got lucky 9 months ago when one in mint condition popped up on KEH for 319. I jumped on it without hesitation...and it's been so nice to use. Like you said...set it and forget it. The sound is very clean.
Oh nice! Glad you were able to find one! And at a good price too 👍
You are not alone...you are surrounded by the spirit of The Aquabats.
It's a good spirit to be surrounded by 😁
Hi Tom, thanks for this comprehensive review. Is this mic (or ECM B10) compatible and good for Sony a6600?
Both mics should be compatible with the a6600 as long as you set the mic's Digital/Analog switch to analog. I haven't used the B10 myself, but from all the reviews I've seen it sounds every bit as good as the B1M 👍
@@tombuck thank you bro!
Great Video!! Wondering if when using the ECM-B10 on the hot shoe can the camera mic port be used at the same time with a tentacle sync for timecode?
As far as I'm aware (and I could be wrong), the adding a mic to the hot shoe totally disables the built in jack- this is why the XLR handles/adapters also have a 3.5mm input.
17:14 I am afraid to branch out so decided to try it tree times and see what happens. :)
It’s good to STICK with what works. 👍
Hey Tom! Have you found ever found a way to record audio to both the camera and the computer at the same time using the rode ntg? Whenever I connect the NTG to usb c it makes the other output really distorted and basically just computer noises. Not sure if this is an issue with my setup or just not possible with these mics
Hey Tom, another great in depth video. Thank you for that. I NOTED your NOTEPAD 😃and it looks amazing. Do you have your script on that? Can you please make a video of your notepad? What brand it is! and how you use it for your videos? Thanks in advance
Thank you Omid! The Notepad is just the Apple Notes app. It has a great checklist feature that's perfect for bullet points, and I really like that it moves between computer/phone/iPad. 👍
I got dizzy a couple times.
Yay Roadcaster Pro is mounted now.
No Drums 😮, but impressed by the lack of echo on the MKH 50, demonstrated by cut over to the Sony in the same space.
The 50 is fantastic. I’m working on another video comparing it to the MKH416 and the 50 really shines.
Nice video, I think I'm going to pick this up to use in analog mode with the FDR-AX700. What model or size Deadcat windscreen are you using with it? Thanks!
It comes with a deadcat 👍
Great video Tom, I love these Sony mics just for no wires and batteries! I just got the new ECM-B10 and its brilliant! What is it with Sony and their names though! 😂
Thanks Scott! I saw that you uploaded a video yesterday. Great minds think alike 😁
How heavy is the Song mix? I got a sennheiser mk400 and it’s a heavy set up for vlog
Nicely done 👏👏👏 I like your puns !!
Hey thanks!
will shooting in vertical still have good audio quality? thanks!
Great video. How would you mount a monitor on FX3 now that the hotshoe is taken by the mic. Is there a good way to position Atmos on it?
I have the Kondor Blue little extension thing for the handle, which adds some mounting holes and a NATO rail. It's great!
@@tombuck thank you Tom, do you have this rig shown in any of the videos? I could not find it on your channel. I'm trying to understand how you have the monitor positioned as it would probably have to be off to the side?
Great vid. What arm / connector (VESA, et.c) are you using to hold the Rodecaster 2?
Any VESA arm will work, but this is the one I have: geni.us/aPPb
@@tombuck Thanks! Trying to get a bit more desk space
So I've been using a gopro to film our rock band and the high SPL's just wreck the gopro's mic. I've been relying on an old Zoom H2N for room audio and mixing it with the sound from the mixer to get a somewhat decent result but the Zoom is starting to act flaky so I grabbed the Sennheiser MKE440 stereo mic and the results are great but all you get is a 3 way toggle switch for the levels so it's still hit or miss.
I've finally caved and ordered a Sony AX43A to use as the main band camera and am also considering grabbing this mic to go with it but wondering if it's really worth that investment if I already have the Sennheiser? With the Sony's ability to set mic level and monitor the input levels on the screen, that seems like it would be easy to keep an eye on that during sound check and adjust the gain in the camera accordingly and that would be fine but with batteries, a cable and somewhat large footprint, the B1M is still a consideration but don't know if it does improve the sound, will it improve ENOUGH to make it worth the price tag?
The Sony microphone looks good, but I am always nervous about using anything but a lav mic.
I exclusively use those for audio because I can move around so freely with them and I usually only need my voice for videos. Also let's me get away with far less sound treatment for rooms indoors. For important videos, I combine the the Zoom F2 BT with the Zoom lav that came with it and sync it to the camera audio. If I am far away from the camera, I hide the Wireless Go + Go lav somewhere on my body for syncing and as a backup microphone. For less important videos, I just use the Wireless Go + lav mic and feed the audio directly into my camera. I noticed that the audio from the Zoom audio recorder is a lot crisper and cleaner. I don't know if it the Wireless Go or the camera degrades the audio, but the difference is like day and night. It's good enough for a simple live stream, but I would never use it for more professional work now that I know how good the F2 is.
Definitely a great option. I really need to work on my lab mic skills. I feel like I always position them or set them wrong and end up with bad results.
@@tombuck I am far from being an expert myself. I just tape them against the inside of my t-shirt at about chest height and in combination with the F2, there is very little that can go wrong. During one of my videos both me whispering as well as the ear-deafening roar of jet engines were perfectly recorded. 32 bit audio is convenient.
How do they work for live music . Should record some live music with your phone .then again with your mic set up
Is it crazy to think about changing out my mv7 for this for desk only use?
I don't think so! It won't reject as much noise because of the added distance, but it's definitely usable. Check out any of Peter Lindgren's videos from the past 2 years where he's doing a talking head segment- this is the only mic he uses and the audio sounds great.
Hello. I need some info, please. Can i rely on the Auto sound setting, on Sony Alpha Series, paired with the Sony ECM-B10/B1M microphone mounted on the digital hot shoe? Can i get worriless good quality sound? I usually shoot on various and rapidly changing scenarios, with very loud to normal volume, and almost no time to adjust instantly. Thanks!
I use the Auto setting most of the time, and it works really well. If you're in a loud environment, you can switch on the -10 setting to add in a little cushion.
@@tombuck Thank you, Tom!
I have been crying for Sony to introduce a smart hot shoe extension cable so this microphone can be mounted elsewhere other than directly on top of a camera, especially when the camera is rigged up 🥲
That's got to be possible, right? It'd definitely be a helpful thing to have.
@@tombuck The XLR-K1M and XLR-K3M comes with that cable - but they aren't sold separately.
Is the new one they just launched? I was looking at their latest mics and having only Sony cameras could be good because of the hot shoe connected.
The new one is a bit smaller, so it doesn't have the same reach. Kind of like the Videomic Go vs. Videomic NTG. I definitely want as much reach as possible with a mic 👍
I have the sony a7iii and this mic is not compatible with the digital feature only the analog. Is it still worth the price to get?
Would love to see an XXL version....
I just scared my coworkers, laughing at your "shake test". hahaha that was great.
I hope it didn't...shake them up too much 😎
@Tom Buck - Is there a reason why you took the B1M over the newer B10?
At the time I wanted more reach, which the B1M is supposed to have. Although in all the reviews I've seen since, I haven't really heard a difference to be honest.
Hey Tom, I’m looking for a professional sounding mic that can do 2 things. Be in-camera for a doc setup and be used for indoor interviews boomed over the talent. Would this be the mic I’m looking for or do you have another recommendation?
I don't think this would be a good choice since it HAS to be on the camera to function. I'd definitely recommend checking out the Rode Videomic NTG, which is super versatile and works great as a boom mic too.
The extra 100 gets you a multi shoe mic and a completely wireless and battery less solution for on the go shooters. I’ve had the cheaper version of the Sony, however I’ve switched to a cheap movo for now that I’m testing out and had the wire. I think it’s time to save up for the Sony. For me I have many mics and boomed them everywhere, but really want something that I can throw on the camera and go.
That's a really good way to put the extra $100 into perspective.
How about Sennheiser MKE 440 compare to these? I plan to use them for headshot, environment, and I hope I can use the mic to experiment and record singing and instrutments too. Can I use these Sony mics on non Sony camera? I plan to get the Sennheiser MKE 440 on a camcorder I plan to buy too, Panasonic HC-X1500, the camcorder has an optional grip with LED and 2 XLR input, that Sennheiser MKE 440 seem like one of its kind and better stand standard shotgun mic, do you think so and if so, does thee grip still necessary because it going to be bulky and it mainly is to attach a standard shotgun mic and does the XLR going to provide noticeable better than. The 3.5mm jack input mics? And also us 32 bits record necessary over 24 or 16 bits?
hey there...I got the FX30 and I love it. I didn't get the XLR handle for now but plugging in my Rode Micro into the camera gives me good audio. For interviews I use a Sennheiser wireless into the mini mic plug and it's ok. But during wedding receptions I want to capture more ominidirectional audio-the music and the atmosphere. Using the micro is ok but if I turn the camera away from the DJ's speakers I lose some of the sound's vitality I think...I guess I need a mic that has directional and also allows for ominidirectional recording..this one seems to do it...I would use it exclusively with my Sony FX30...is this the best solution for my situation? The price is a bit high for me ...does the B10 also has an ominidirectional pattern setting? Thanks
B10 is the same as B1M. The main diffrence is that there is more reach with the B1M. There is more capsule on this mic. I saw a video on wedding gig with the B10 and it sound great.
@@lephotographeeclaire thanks. I think I will try the B10...
I love my B1M but it’s not usable for waking as there’s a bumping sound it creates. For that I grab my Deity D3 Pro. But the B1M is so easy and I just leave it on auto most of the time. It’s just so easy.
It's almost absurd how easy it is overall!
Great overview! That answered a lot of my questions around the B1M (e.g. auto level, battery drain on the camera, etc.). It's tough to beat the value and versatility of the VideoMic NTG (that's been my go-to), but the Sony looks like a great option.
The Videomic really is the best overall value, but if you've got a Sony camera this does solve the few gripes I had with the NTG.
Do they work for Android phone
Might be my next mic. Great review Tom. BTW I'm using my new channel to comment. I have the same issue with my rode
Hey hey, new channel name! Nice!
Dang, I love this thing but I don’t think I’d be able to use it with a cage on my camera. Very cool, though!
Yeah, that’s the bummer since it has to be directly connected to the hot shoe 😑
Cool
Hi, Thank you for video. Do you think when we use the ECM-B10 microphone on camera sony alpha ,we can connect headphones to the sony camera to have audio feedback?
Yep, you can still monitor your audio 👍
@@tombuck thank you for your answer !
Off topic... I'd love to know where you found that great black & purple shirt!
I have a couple of them because they're so cheap! amzn.to/3K5wO6m
Hi Tom, just picked up the B1M, but see there is a newer model, the M1, have you tried it yet and if so do you rate the new 8 pattern function? Thank you.
I haven't used the M1, but from what I understand it is a bit different from the B1M (not so much a replacement as an alternative). If you primarily need directional audio in front of the camera, tbe B1M is a champ!
The dad jokes just won you a new subscriber 👍🏼🤙🏼
Usually they cost me subscribers, so I appreciate that 😁
Still banging the drum for the Rode SVMX. #stereogang
Regarding the B1, I just wish they made it more low profile. The notion of using my MI shoe has always intrigued me for cable management reasons. If only it weren't so tall!
I think the "tallness" of the mic is due to the shock mount. I'd like it to be a little more low profile too, but I guess I'd rather have the stability. It's still quite compact overall, thankfully.
I don't think Great Sensitivity went with the Great Power statement! 😆 but hey we got 2 jokes in by the 2 minute mark so I'll take it!! 😎👍🏽 Good breakdown Tee Bee...
11:27 I've seen that mic when singers recording their song in music studio. 🤣
Ahh yes, the Shure Super 55! It's really awesome.
I think it suits you well!
Thanks! If anything I wish it had a bit more bass response, but I love the convenience and overall quality.
@@tombuck Q: Tom has his "pro" content channel.. Heather's "pro" discussion content is this one ... ..I would like to ask to all, if you don't agree, they should do during a month experiment, twice a week: week 1-reacting movies; week 2-reacting fun content; week 3-reacting music videos ..week 4 reacting everything else and strange.. ..how many would like that experiment?
I just did a very important recording yesterday and decided to start arranging and editing the footage today, only to find that there is NO SOUND AT ALL
The rode NTG WAS plugged in... just not all the way. DEAD SILENT 120GB footage.
I just came back to this video and I hate myself for going cheap and choosing the NTG.
I’m so sorry, this is such a frustrating situation to be in. I’ve definitely been there myself more than once.
@@tombuck Your vids have some of the best sound quality ever! Thanks for the comment!
The ECM-B10 would probably have better availability right now being a newer product if you don't need the longer reach of the B1M
I think it is more widely available, but in my case the extra reach was really important.
The amount of eye rolling I have to do for every pun and dad joke makes my eyeball muslces hard as steel after some time
That's a great workout 💪
@@tombuck keep it up :)
The Auto thing was cool for me as well. I never used Auto settings, but with this Mic, it works extremely well. You set it, and forget it.
It reminds me of autofocus in cameras. I learned NEVER to use it for video, but then over time it got really good and I had to learn that it was actually a usable tool.
Left a like for the joke in intro 😂
Thanks for doing the shake test at the end and saying that... I make 🌽 lol so this mic is a no go
Just wish I could twist to face me easily.
good video. alot of dad jokes. will be buying the mic
It's a great one! You might want to check out the smaller B10 if you're on a budget.
@@tombuck thanks for the reply biggest issue for me is just a6000 not having audio port and flip facing screen! Very frustrating
Help. Could you and Heather do a 2 person interview with this mic from say 5-10 feet so we hear it? I debated using this mic (if you can find one) for two person trade show interviews. My Saraminic Blink is a PITA to set up! This would be a killer answer.
I’m sure that’ll happen in time, but for now check out this video from Peter: ruclips.net/video/4sVYy0Z7ee0/видео.html
Skip to the 3 minute mark to hear two people talking. This is the only mic he uses, so check out some of his other videos too. 👍
@@tombuck very helpful, thank you and grateful you responding so quickly. I have a ZVe10 with digial shoe mount. I wonder if there is tradeshow background noise vs in studio if it would work ok? Your db setting explanation leads me to believe it's possible. Of course I could use Rode or Saramonic wireless but such a PITA to set up, especially when you are asking to do an interview with another person and time is limited with them.
and great resource, i'll flip through more of his videos, thanks for suggesting that.
Aw, Sonies do have a different hotshoe!
Or do they?
I heard that these Sony microphones are worst (or maybe the best?) at having a strange hotshoe and it's not even in universal like what the others is supposed to be. (But mine do have a Sony Handycam from 2011, Which it has an active interface shoe)
But I do heard that they made some mics with basic hotshoe type back in around the 90s or 2000s, They do sound really good as these new boys. (And they are stereo microphones)
Sony has definitely evolved their hotshoe over time (I have an old Handycam that had a mic kind of like this, but it's a totally different design). I think they've been pretty consistent with their mirrorless cameras though, and it'll still accommodate any standard shoe-mounted accessories.
@@tombuck I do like standard hotshoe, Btw.
Sony ECM-B1M in stock on B&C Camera at least for me.
Oh nice! It pops in and out of stock, but doesn't stay in for long.
If you get a rubber band (black in color to make it look good ) and wrap it by the shock mount, boom all problems solved.
12:50 THIS
😂😂😂 With great power hey🤣
Filters and directionality don’t make much difference.
So the reason the Sony Mic is so good has nothing to do with the Mic really. It has to do with the digital interface. As you know Camera 1/8” mic input are not all that great. So by bypassing there own ‘weak’ 1/8” mic they improve the sound. If you compare that Mic to say MKH running into the FX3 audio handle and then well it not all that exceptional. Don’t get the wrong that it’s not a good Mic, because it is. Sony has experience making Mic’s If they would improve there 1/8” preamp then well all mic would sound better. And not to pick on Sony most camera have weak audio. Even high end camera because in a high end video work the audio is being done by Audio engineers and recorders like the Sound Device 888
This makes sense. Camera audio inputs are typically disappointing, so bypassing that entirely is a good idea.
@@tombuck Just living up to your "Matt is smart comment..." LOL
I bought one from Best Buy
Not a good idea, to invest in a microphone that is platform sensitive. Great video!
I paid more to have a clean no wires mic.
The B1M says Expected Availability: March 01, 2023
Check the Google shopping results, it does pop up from time. B&C had it in stock yesterday 👍
Sony gets their names from robots.
That makes the most sense, honestly.
The “micro” type all are terrible. I am constantly blown away with the positive reviews of the rose micro.
For under $100 with no battery and the ability to work as a USB mic, they’re pretty handy to have.
DISLIKE beam forming microphones. Just go the good old fashioned type.
Ahh, I actually didn't know that's what a mic like this was called. Normally I'm an "old fashioned" guy myself, but the versatility of this is something that I haven't found in another mic.
Out of stock until 2023
Definitely check Google shopping a few times each week, it DOES pop up from time to time.
@@tombuck Back in stock on B&C Camera!
I appreciate the content, but from a viewers perspective the over usage of all the puns and play-on-words is actually a bit exhausting. Every time you do it, it makes the viewer audibly step back subconsciously and forces them to re-engage with what you're saying again as you continue. Once is great, twice is fine, but any more than that and it becomes a distraction. I know it's silly, but I actually have a really difficult time watching your content because of it. I find it audibly exhausting.
Thanks for the feedback. I definitely would hate for my videos to be exhausting, but goofy jokes and things are just a part of my personality. They’ve helped me connect with students and viewers for many years, so while it might not be for everyone, it’s what’s natural for me.
@@tombucki absolutely love your play on words… up there with Bob Dylan who I think must be a fellow subscriber 😂