Hahaha the flat earther/conspiracy nuts defense mechanism! "do your own research!" and silently hope people are too lazy to actually do research. Well, I guess Earth 2 and Flat Earth do have a lot in common. 😉
@@FeuerblutRM Been watching every video I've found about Earth 2 since 3 days ago. You're absolutely right. In fact if Earth 2 devs, sorry, investors, do really want scam income, they should release a flat version of it.
Yeah I can see that happening. With the fact that Benson is hated by almost everyone, there is no other reason to have him on the team other than to be a blame sponge. Even if the two original developers don't come out of it unscathed, Benson have a much more infamous track record than the two.
Asmongold pointed out the exact trick there using while watching one of your previous video's, guy used to run scams and he just instantly recognized the technique, making something blatantly look like a scam is a handy way to separate the knowledgeable from the gullible thus rendering it easier to separate the gullible from their money.
even yandere dev has more skill then these clowns he just is far to lazy to actually use it i swear the easter egg transformation he added in like sans and saitama have better gameplay then his actual game in the last decade
@@wilmagregg3131 seriously! If he actually put some damn effort into his game, took the advice of the people who have gone through and optimized the game because they want to see it improve, then it could be fantasticly hilarious!
It's like when people sell photos of items on ebay, and they sneak the word "photo" somewhere in the description while trying to make it sound like they're selling the _actual_ item. Legally it's not a scam, but realistically it is.
Actually a number of people doing that lost hard in small claims court. Usually a judge takes one look and sides with the buyer. Really it comes down to was the item in question worth the time/money to take the guy to court. It has also been used in the opposite since too, to sell things they technically couldn't sell. It was common with MMORPG accounts and such back in the early to mid 2000's. Where they would sell something like a pen for 200 bucks and throw in a game account free as a gift.
So, now Earth 2 only misses Kaspian, the Dreamworld dudes and the Digital Homicide dudes for an epic Scamvengers crossover! Let's go Earth 2, make it happen!! :D
His new game, monogon: echoes, is just another asset flip. Apparently that is the basis of hiring him. Since you know UE4, you'll recognize it right off the bat.
Also, for the "rugpull" statement, keep in mind just because they have your permission through a EULA or similar agreement they would have to demonstrate it's legally enforceable if a large enough case is made. Or if a lawyer could argue that it's not a legally enforceable statement or agreement. An extreme example would be the southpark episode where everyone agreed to become a part of the "Apple centipede" thing by signing the EULA. Something like that would not fly because that's not a legally enforceable claim. Mandatory, I am not a lawyer and you should also not count on the above if you think it may be a scam or is likely to be done, however for the ignorant people that don't understand what they've agreed to, there is a chance they may get money back or at least have some kind of settlement.
One of my biggest gripes with unreal engine is that it's so easy to just drop someone into a field, sell it and say "guys loool this game is great and totally not a scam" You get actual good developers, but for every good developer, there are two more lazy shithead scammers
...wow, I mean I knew our expectations for Earth2 were low but holy fuck. This is a whole new level of... well actually don't think we have words for this.
I might be crazy, but I kind of see a master plan here. They hired this asinine scammer for a quick demo to inject some more life into this. They then slowly or maybe fast come up with all sorts of excuses and end up pushing the entire responsibility of the project on top of the known scammer. They then run away hoping the project has enough life left that they won't be implicated when it all comes crashing down. I can't be arsed to remember or research who the devs of earth 2 are, just refering to them seems to be enough effort for the situation.
I'm certainly not the first to think something of the sort, an earlier comment suggested the same thing, with just less detail. Though the thing that sticks out now is just how attached the hired scammer can get to the stuff he works on, enough to go to battle with critics over it and not afraid to use really low tactics. On top of the original dev team team just passing the flag and vanishing, I think they're hoping the guy will make enough of an ass of himself to create the smoke curtain the original devs hope for.
There is some hope for those getting scammed, TOS did not always stay in concrete, a Judge or such authority can overrule an TOS if he thinks they are predatory or unfair or breach the laws.
Here's the thing about scams: It's not defined as a scam until the Courts define it as such. Just because it doesn't meet the legal definition, doesn't mean it's not a scam, it just means it's not a scam YET.
During the Dreamworld scam stuff, Asmongold (who used to scam people on WoW from their gold) said that scammers need a sort of "filter" (language, bad grammar or certain key-words) to separate the idiots from the skeptics and that way the skeptics and smarter people leave and the idiots stay behind and form their own bubble. The demo was probably that. These guys knew that JSH's video would pull away people, so they supposedly made a demo to keep the idiots with the money around
the problem with legal definitions is that governments are far too slow at adapting them while scammers/criminals are very quick at inventing new ways that should fall under those definitions.
You just gotta love that tire screech on gravel in that driving a buggy to show physics demo that is not about driving a buggy and not about showing physics 😂
I just love how they hire someone that made an entire asset flip after Earth 2 released their trailer that looked like they just bought a bunch of assets and put them on a map
A deedpoll can be done in like 15 minuets (In UK, and many US state) and most don't understand how easy it is to find your old name (This is coming from a trans person who was in politics, if someone can ruin your life, they will try) so I think they are just this stupid hoping that a new name will fool people/ go below radar. I suspect that identity crimes won't come in given the nature of legal names however all this info makes a court battle a lot more winnable
Mushrooms in the sun. hell yeah. the amount of thought put into details of this game. :D I used the mushroom's recently in unreal engine. so i can for sure say free assets are used
Hey Callum, if you have time. Can you please do a video on how 'whale hunter' developers write (RNG) code to favor them. I want people to see how easy it is to screw people over with digital RNG goods, Thanks.
Callum I just wanted you to know I leave your channel on loop and go to sleep every night listening to you talk. I also have fantastic dreams as a result. Thank you!
I’ll also point out that yes there are heavy Ponzi and MLM components here, but also pretty awful price fixing. It’s not illegal only by virtue that it’s not real land. If this was real land there would be potential criminal and civil cases against them.
Oh I would not rule out him disappearing for 5-15 just yet. They may have made some huge errors in directly linking their unregulated and fraudulent financial instruments to the US dollar. I’m not sure what the Australian Laws are governing Securities Fraud, although I assume they are similar to the US, UK, and Canada’s. But some of what they are doing here probably also puts them in range of the US Securities and Exchange Commission. And “it’s just a game bro!” Doesn’t work on them.
In the USA false advertising is illegal and telling players they will get x and delivering y is illegal. So, by law these "game developers" that promise to provide a functionality in exchange for investor money and so not provide that functionality are in liability and can be sued. Start up the class action suits, they're totally viable.
That new dev used to work on a garrys mod server years ago on some Australian role play server, which also had stolen content. He Worked with a guy called Heavy Bob.
I have been watching this thinking... hmmm I wonder if it could get any worse, well think I got that proof today. Good job on the video and if this stuff keeps popping up I can see us getting more and more entertainment out of it.
I honestly feel so bad for real developers now. These scams being brought to light are going to make everyone suspicious and not want to fund a project in fear of it being a scam. Though, I'm sure real developers can at least half back-up their projects.
For how honest that gameplay trailer was... Really, they shouldve just committed and played a splice of The Matrix and Ready Player One's theatrical trailers and said "yeah, that. COMING SOON"
3:12 I don't think they're stupid. I think they read the room very well. That no one would even bother to read the ToS and that the community would take more than 6 months to even realize what they have signed up for. If the E2 developers now pack their luggage and go to the Bahamas, they would probably get away with it. Maybe this is just a troll because they know. They must have had very profound legal advise before they set this up. Btw, they should also hire the DreamWorld devs to form a perfect circle.
There is one other point i dont get: they claim that even now there is trading of land tiles. Im asking myself: why? Why do i buy a more expensive tile, that is only more expensive because some other Player? Investor? owns it, instead of just byuing on of the cheaper, non occcupied tiles??? Okay, i can think of some 'hey thats my house in the real world' things going on, but in these massive 100th of millions sice??
I am a simple man: A scam is a scam, regardless of the technical category it might or might not belong to: Promises were made they cannot deliver on, the whole edollar principle is, as demonstrated by Josh Strife Hayes, just a way to insure that it will always be the investors who lose, not the company.
The problem is that people start to pay for something which doesn't exist. Even amazons "new world" is a scam until it releases. So why would you pay for nothing with a high risk losing it.
Linguist here: People like to forget that how a word is used has equal to greater weight than a words dictionary definition. If enough people call it a scam, like it or not, it is one
Someone help me out here, I know it's frowned up on and probably illegal to say you're in the military when you're not. Is this the same in this case where he's like "I'm going away to join the Australian military"? When he clearly isn't, since this could cause problems since a lot of people may actually think he's in the Australian military. From what I'm seeing he's sound like a right piece of work.
I'm going to assume they did intentionally knowing it'd get these channels all over it. At this point I think they see all this as beneficial to their....."project". The whole, "any publicity is good publicity"!
I've not even finished the video but LORD. It just gets WORSE. It's ridiculous how this is developing- are we SURE this is the same guy?? Because who the hell claims to be going to the AUSTRALIAN ARMY as a COVER
If scam doesn't fit how about this word; *fraud -* *noun* *noun: fraud; plural noun: frauds* *wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.*
Earth 2 players : d0 YoUr 0Wn ReSeArCh!!!!!!!
Callum : Does research...
Earth 2 players : N0 sTaHp!
If they are players where is the game play 😂
@@Hiihtopipa ahah same 😂😂 they aren't "players", right now they are just "investors" 😂😂😂😂
Heck their own ToS is the research. It's everything but honest.
Hahaha the flat earther/conspiracy nuts defense mechanism!
"do your own research!" and silently hope people are too lazy to actually do research.
Well, I guess Earth 2 and Flat Earth do have a lot in common. 😉
@@FeuerblutRM Been watching every video I've found about Earth 2 since 3 days ago.
You're absolutely right.
In fact if Earth 2 devs, sorry, investors, do really want scam income, they should release a flat version of it.
scapegoat on demand.
say "all failure of E2 is due to him", then sack him and say "now we are clear".
externalization of accountability.
Yeah I can see that happening. With the fact that Benson is hated by almost everyone, there is no other reason to have him on the team other than to be a blame sponge. Even if the two original developers don't come out of it unscathed, Benson have a much more infamous track record than the two.
Sounds like they already have a plan to hang everything on this guy when they take off with the money.
More likely they will pin the blame on him, as he is a dev.
If Benson is getting actual legal consequences, I'd say it wouldn't be a total loss.
Asmongold pointed out the exact trick there using while watching one of your previous video's, guy used to run scams and he just instantly recognized the technique, making something blatantly look like a scam is a handy way to separate the knowledgeable from the gullible thus rendering it easier to separate the gullible from their money.
Why am I not surprised asmongold used to run scams...
dont know how anybody watches those videos, he never adds anything to the discussion, its exploitative
Scammers hire scammers, amazing. They're hire YanDev soon.
1:1 scale earth and poorly animated anime girls? I’m sold
Add Jao and Dondi.
even yandere dev has more skill then these clowns he just is far to lazy to actually use it i swear the easter egg transformation he added in like sans and saitama have better gameplay then his actual game in the last decade
Yandev is on a completely different level now, lmao, that's a name I forgot about in a while
@@wilmagregg3131 seriously! If he actually put some damn effort into his game, took the advice of the people who have gone through and optimized the game because they want to see it improve, then it could be fantasticly hilarious!
It's like when people sell photos of items on ebay, and they sneak the word "photo" somewhere in the description while trying to make it sound like they're selling the _actual_ item.
Legally it's not a scam, but realistically it is.
Have you ever heard of the legal system? The devil is always in the details.
Actually a number of people doing that lost hard in small claims court. Usually a judge takes one look and sides with the buyer. Really it comes down to was the item in question worth the time/money to take the guy to court. It has also been used in the opposite since too, to sell things they technically couldn't sell. It was common with MMORPG accounts and such back in the early to mid 2000's. Where they would sell something like a pen for 200 bucks and throw in a game account free as a gift.
@@nikushim6665 Very interesting.
There are many nonames on youtube but for the first ttime I've seen an actual one
So, now Earth 2 only misses Kaspian, the Dreamworld dudes and the Digital Homicide dudes for an epic Scamvengers crossover! Let's go Earth 2, make it happen!! :D
Give them time, do not rush them...
Next hires: Yandere Dev, Randy Pitchford
imma note this down in case i wanna make a scam
@@DeliciousFriendHastur dont forget to hire todd rogers and billy mitchell to "speedrun" your game for world records
@@andhieyusuf7008 randy made a good half-life expansion but thats it
Earth 2: Oh no we "accidentally" hire a scammer, anyways
Earth2: We hiring people for our project, you just need to have an experience as a scammer. more despicable more better.
His new game, monogon: echoes, is just another asset flip. Apparently that is the basis of hiring him. Since you know UE4, you'll recognize it right off the bat.
Also, for the "rugpull" statement, keep in mind just because they have your permission through a EULA or similar agreement they would have to demonstrate it's legally enforceable if a large enough case is made. Or if a lawyer could argue that it's not a legally enforceable statement or agreement.
An extreme example would be the southpark episode where everyone agreed to become a part of the "Apple centipede" thing by signing the EULA. Something like that would not fly because that's not a legally enforceable claim.
Mandatory, I am not a lawyer and you should also not count on the above if you think it may be a scam or is likely to be done, however for the ignorant people that don't understand what they've agreed to, there is a chance they may get money back or at least have some kind of settlement.
Keep going, I love this E2 series...
I can't stop laughing at how the whole situation unravel.
One of my biggest gripes with unreal engine is that it's so easy to just drop someone into a field, sell it and say "guys loool this game is great and totally not a scam"
You get actual good developers, but for every good developer, there are two more lazy shithead scammers
...wow, I mean I knew our expectations for Earth2 were low but holy fuck. This is a whole new level of... well actually don't think we have words for this.
I might be crazy, but I kind of see a master plan here.
They hired this asinine scammer for a quick demo to inject some more life into this.
They then slowly or maybe fast come up with all sorts of excuses and end up pushing the entire responsibility of the project on top of the known scammer.
They then run away hoping the project has enough life left that they won't be implicated when it all comes crashing down.
I can't be arsed to remember or research who the devs of earth 2 are, just refering to them seems to be enough effort for the situation.
Not crazy - but smart! You really might be onto something! hope your comment gets enough likes so everyone can see it!
I'm certainly not the first to think something of the sort, an earlier comment suggested the same thing, with just less detail.
Though the thing that sticks out now is just how attached the hired scammer can get to the stuff he works on, enough to go to battle with critics over it and not afraid to use really low tactics.
On top of the original dev team team just passing the flag and vanishing, I think they're hoping the guy will make enough of an ass of himself to create the smoke curtain the original devs hope for.
Big Fry's gonna love this. All this needs is Sergey Titov.
I believe BigFry was the first one to tweet about that... now to wait for a new video.
You guys are late. He already made a vid on this earlier today lol
He did, hours ago when he made a video about it lol
Titov is a legend. Do not use the name in vain.
They must hire Berkan Denizyaran, the director of HL2 mod Hunt Down the Freeman
People like yourself and KiraTV are doing important work here, I wish you and your channel the best!
There is some hope for those getting scammed, TOS did not always stay in concrete, a Judge or such authority can overrule an TOS if he thinks they are predatory or unfair or breach the laws.
Here's the thing about scams: It's not defined as a scam until the Courts define it as such. Just because it doesn't meet the legal definition, doesn't mean it's not a scam, it just means it's not a scam YET.
We're so lucky this year, we can follow E3 and now E2 during summer !
During the Dreamworld scam stuff, Asmongold (who used to scam people on WoW from their gold) said that scammers need a sort of "filter" (language, bad grammar or certain key-words) to separate the idiots from the skeptics and that way the skeptics and smarter people leave and the idiots stay behind and form their own bubble.
The demo was probably that. These guys knew that JSH's video would pull away people, so they supposedly made a demo to keep the idiots with the money around
I wonder how Arya Reality is going to spin this and say it's a good thing they hired this guy.
They're spinning it that it's a second chance for the little shitweasel.
With his smarmy attitude most probably "look guys i shit money you can trust me"
Something like "they wouldn't hire a scammer if they were a scam, that would be too obvious".
"If you don't know what a scam is, I'll explain. A scam is a gift from a wealthier person."
Arya Realty, probably
the problem with legal definitions is that governments are far too slow at adapting them while scammers/criminals are very quick at inventing new ways that should fall under those definitions.
They said fuck it, let's make it official
You just gotta love that tire screech on gravel in that driving a buggy to show physics demo that is not about driving a buggy and not about showing physics 😂
You are the Hero among us, Callum. Keep up the incredible work, mate! We're all cheering you on!
among us sus
If these pratices are allowed to endure, they will infect every future mmo. The assurance of making millions without taking any risk is too tempting.
I just love how they hire someone that made an entire asset flip after Earth 2 released their trailer that looked like they just bought a bunch of assets and put them on a map
Thank you for continuing the crusade against Video Game scams post-Dreamworld.
just found your channel and have to say I am enjoying it no punches being pulled.
Kira will love this.
How in the world? No real gamer would ever get involved with this. It is so completely a bullshit scam. Good vid Callum, ty.
I almost fell for this scam early this year but good thing I ended up thinking it was too good to be true 😩
Good analysis you’re doing gods work calling out these weirdos
Oh damn, I remember that mess! And they hire him. Hahaha this is wild!
Next you know they're gonna onboard the Dreamworld staff.
And the Dreamworld staff will be on their team, forming an Ouroborous of scammers
Fantastic reporting here Callum. You're very smart guy. You figure stuff out pretty fast.
I'm thinking they're setting him up to be a nice practical patsie to lay future blame on.
As Hanlon's Razor goes, attribute not to malice what *can* be attributed to stupidity.
We have indeed passed the limits of that "Can."
It’s an “Isaac’s box scam” last I heard
Is that the scam of the money machine that take 6 hours to copy a dollar?
A deedpoll can be done in like 15 minuets (In UK, and many US state) and most don't understand how easy it is to find your old name (This is coming from a trans person who was in politics, if someone can ruin your life, they will try) so I think they are just this stupid hoping that a new name will fool people/ go below radar. I suspect that identity crimes won't come in given the nature of legal names however all this info makes a court battle a lot more winnable
Mushrooms in the sun. hell yeah. the amount of thought put into details of this game. :D
I used the mushroom's recently in unreal engine. so i can for sure say free assets are used
Varius Benson is such a Disney villain name omg 😆
Hey Callum, if you have time. Can you please do a video on how 'whale hunter' developers write (RNG) code to favor them. I want people to see how easy it is to screw people over with digital RNG goods, Thanks.
Callum I just wanted you to know I leave your channel on loop and go to sleep every night listening to you talk. I also have fantastic dreams as a result. Thank you!
I'm surprised more people aren't abusing this power youtube gives them.
I’ll also point out that yes there are heavy Ponzi and MLM components here, but also pretty awful price fixing. It’s not illegal only by virtue that it’s not real land. If this was real land there would be potential criminal and civil cases against them.
bro you are growing super fast you legit just had a little over 1k subs maybe a month ago good shit keep up the grind
He can't handle criticism because it's messing with his scam. It's nothing to criticize.
It's possible they are unaware of this guy. It's pretty common for scammers to not know about each other in many cases.
Dreamworld vs Earth2 which will be the bigger shitshow, boy I can't wait to find out
Man, this is getting rich... Dropping a sub. Keep up the good work man.
As if sending in privacy take downs of all criticism wasnt obvious enough
I'm living on the edge, I stood up when he told me to take a seat
"Hey all, just letting you know that I'm going to disappear for 4 years"
>doesn't
Oh I would not rule out him disappearing for 5-15 just yet. They may have made some huge errors in directly linking their unregulated and fraudulent financial instruments to the US dollar. I’m not sure what the Australian Laws are governing Securities Fraud, although I assume they are similar to the US, UK, and Canada’s. But some of what they are doing here probably also puts them in range of the US Securities and Exchange Commission. And “it’s just a game bro!” Doesn’t work on them.
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Thank you for your service heh
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In the USA false advertising is illegal and telling players they will get x and delivering y is illegal. So, by law these "game developers" that promise to provide a functionality in exchange for investor money and so not provide that functionality are in liability and can be sued. Start up the class action suits, they're totally viable.
Good Video, keep up the good work :) The Internet really needs People like you, Josh and Kira!
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That new dev used to work on a garrys mod server years ago on some Australian role play server, which also had stolen content.
He Worked with a guy called Heavy Bob.
The biggest innovation this "Game's" development has produced is a new scam category.
Lets name it 'Bensonian Scheme'. Named after the guy that just joined in.
I have been watching this thinking... hmmm I wonder if it could get any worse, well think I got that proof today. Good job on the video and if this stuff keeps popping up I can see us getting more and more entertainment out of it.
I honestly feel so bad for real developers now. These scams being brought to light are going to make everyone suspicious and not want to fund a project in fear of it being a scam.
Though, I'm sure real developers can at least half back-up their projects.
Congrats on your fast growth! I subbed when I saw you on DJ Slopes channel. You're doing great. Keep up the good work.
Earth 2 and massively screwed up go hand and hand
Gotta love that attention to clarity
Never underestimate stupidity. They basically beat the odds to make it to adulthood.
if some random ass "entrepreneur" calls himself "CEO", you know he's a joke
For how honest that gameplay trailer was... Really, they shouldve just committed and played a splice of The Matrix and Ready Player One's theatrical trailers and said "yeah, that. COMING SOON"
You should look at MAV and explore when a game dev goes from legitimate to "scammer" through sheer attrition
2 dislikes in the video, I've spotted Zac and Garrison, Callum
6:30 You know Tanner is evil, when you see @everyone
If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck n quacks like a duck....
unmitigated shambles
I.. I can't look away
Are they gonna hire Caspian next?? lol Earth 2 would have a whole boat of scam artists in the gaming community and could run a monopoly
"In-Game Footage" in the corner. irony.jpg
3:12 I don't think they're stupid. I think they read the room very well. That no one would even bother to read the ToS and that the community would take more than 6 months to even realize what they have signed up for. If the E2 developers now pack their luggage and go to the Bahamas, they would probably get away with it. Maybe this is just a troll because they know. They must have had very profound legal advise before they set this up.
Btw, they should also hire the DreamWorld devs to form a perfect circle.
There is one other point i dont get: they claim that even now there is trading of land tiles. Im asking myself: why? Why do i buy a more expensive tile, that is only more expensive because some other Player? Investor? owns it, instead of just byuing on of the cheaper, non occcupied tiles??? Okay, i can think of some 'hey thats my house in the real world' things going on, but in these massive 100th of millions sice??
Lol, before seeing your video I also called it a s***show below BigFry's video xD Unbelievable those E2 guys.
0:42
Not stupid yes
But they believe we are stupid , that's the difference
I am a simple man: A scam is a scam, regardless of the technical category it might or might not belong to: Promises were made they cannot deliver on, the whole edollar principle is, as demonstrated by Josh Strife Hayes, just a way to insure that it will always be the investors who lose, not the company.
Thinnest of hairs? Is Onision one of the devs by chance?
The problem is that people start to pay for something which doesn't exist. Even amazons "new world" is a scam until it releases. So why would you pay for nothing with a high risk losing it.
10:17 Wait... that's just the stock market.
"I've spoken..." BRUH! -.-
We're in the endgame now...
Linguist here:
People like to forget that how a word is used has equal to greater weight than a words dictionary definition. If enough people call it a scam, like it or not, it is one
Who's better at getting people into a scam than a scammer?
Someone help me out here, I know it's frowned up on and probably illegal to say you're in the military when you're not. Is this the same in this case where he's like "I'm going away to join the Australian military"? When he clearly isn't, since this could cause problems since a lot of people may actually think he's in the Australian military. From what I'm seeing he's sound like a right piece of work.
I'm going to assume they did intentionally knowing it'd get these channels all over it. At this point I think they see all this as beneficial to their....."project". The whole, "any publicity is good publicity"!
man with a picture of elon musk in the background talking about scammers is just lol worthy
Scam show displaying the current king of scams makes sense to me. Am I missing something?
"if your not in a seat i suggest you take a seat now"... Does the toilet count?
Let the story arc of earth 2 continue, who will win out of this, is the scammer going to secretly rob them this is like season 2 but more content
When i first saw the video title, i thought they hired Zachary Kaplan !! lol!
"He's set himself up for absolute failure."
Don't call it an absolute failure or else Digital Homicide will sue you.
I've not even finished the video but LORD. It just gets WORSE. It's ridiculous how this is developing- are we SURE this is the same guy?? Because who the hell claims to be going to the AUSTRALIAN ARMY as a COVER
If scam doesn't fit how about this word;
*fraud -*
*noun*
*noun: fraud; plural noun: frauds*
*wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.*
Why is that guy not behind bars? I mean, it just sounds to me like the legal definition of a scam and ponzi/pyramid scheme need to be changed.
you have to pay attention to the volume when you show footage from youtube videos.this is not first time tho.
I'm locked in bro. Looking forward to this. How bad can it get?
How Bad-a-a-a-ah-d can it get
im gonna guess flat earth bad.