Did We Expect P2 in the Sprint? | 2024 Chinese GP F1 Akkodis Race Debrief
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- James gives us an honest review of our Chinese GP weekend in our @Akkodis Race Debrief, as F1 returned to the Shanghai International Circuit. He talks through the newly introduced parc fermé format, the first sprint race of the year and the steps we’re taking in Miami.
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I love that they do these debriefs. In life you'll have criticism and pressure to perform. All you can do is stay positive and keep pushing with maximum effort.
agree ...
Cameron, James. Another super Q&A, I always appreciate the honesty. Thank you!
Wishing everyone well moving forwards ❤🖤
It's good to see positive comments 😌
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Always great to have Mr. Allison for the debrief, keep pushing guys 👊🏾
That was a great debrief. Many organisations across the world could learn from talking so openly and honestly about the reality of the work they are doing. Kudos!
As always,I applaud the honest assessment given during the F1 Debriefs.I hope the upgrades for the Miami GP correlate with what is shown in CFD,simulator and the wind tunnel.
"and that day can't come soon enough..." thank you Mr.Allison for your honesty.
8:41 wow what honesty 👏 really appreciated 👏
Feel so sorry for James, such a good man who is trying so hard but can’t fix it.
One person can’t do it, need a team, and something there is lacking.
Keep in mind that this is the first car he’s built under these set of regs, therefore he’s at least 3yrs behind the others and only about 5 races in. I believe the team under his leadership would be able to turn things around.
its interesting that in the last 2 years the car was rear limited, but now theyre saying the car is front limited. i guess that speaks to the work the team has done with the rear suspension and floor, but has unveiled new problems at the front. the last rear limited circuit we went to was bahrain, so hopefully the car is more in its happy place there!
it just says they have no idea.. they have lost lot of engineers and the new lot is not good
exactly my thoughts when I heard them say it
@@nothngspermanent probably more so picking up the mantle after many great engineers left is not easy, I think we’ll only know when there’s a clean sheet and the current new engineers can get to work, but yes I agree Mercedes don’t seem as if they know how to fix the deficit or that it is so large that they cannot catch back up in season, plus being behind now on a concept by 3 years
@@sgript i disagree with your assessment . I am an engineer and its more of a science than arts. This is a clear failure of SOPs and hiring team. The fact that Aston(Force India) is beating Merc tells me the problems are very deep rooted
@@nothngspermanent Mercedes need to employ you (complement) and other positively minded individuals then. The Aston is a worse car than the Merc, its fast in qualifying but had the worst deg on its tire's.
Still in Lewis Hamilton we trust it's purple 💜
Cult
@@NicotineRosberg3-1😂😂
@@NicotineRosberg You must 🐐🧎 to the Greatest Of All Time
@@AZBCDEE 😂😂😂😂😂
Cringe
Thanks James to be realistic, humble and truthful, while keeping you smile and confidence.
Let's be a bit less greedy Lewis 💜💛 😊 I wish you the best 🤗
🤞for Miami !
December will come and they will be fooling everyone with it's been 3 years now w15 rubbish.... Mercedes will lose 90% of its fans with myself I'm already thinking about Ferrari in 2025 the whole of Brazil is here looking forward to it

James incredible honest and informative explanation i could listen to James all day. Lovit👍
I appreciate the honesty
Who was Mercedes before Hamilton? 🤔
Mercedes have been in Formula One since the dawn of the championship in the 1950's.
They had legendary drivers such as Fangio and Stirling Moss racing for them. Fangio winning two back to back titles.
There engines powered Mika Hakkinen's Mclaren to another two back to back wins in 98/99.
The Mercedes engine powered Lewis Hamilton to his first World Title in 2008 with Mclaren.
Before becoming the Mercedes AMG F1 team that we know today they also powered Jenson Button to his first and only World title in 09 with the Brawn GP team.
Lewis left Mclaren to race for Mercedes F1 team in 2013.
New regulations came into effect in 2014 and the Mercedes turbo hybrid engine dominated the series for many years to come.
Lewis went on to win the World Championship another 6 times (14,15,17,18,19,20) a magnificent record.
Losing only once in 2016 to his team m8 Nico Rosberg.
This is Mercedes!
I love how you guys still come up with these Q&A's despite the performance in the race. Lewis showed the raw talent in the rain where it equalized chances, on the dry... the two cars were sitting ducks. Unfortunate situation and I hope you guys come back stronger for the second part of the season, because right now there's not much George or Lewis can do.
Another GREAT debrief. Wishing you all the best!
Red Bull's secret, they carry out total quality control of each screw, part, component before, during and after the production of the car. In the virtual environment, in the wind tunnel and in the physical environment (pre-season tests and TL,s).
Jeez it's a heartbreak to see James soooo sad😭💔
Mercedes youtube channel, i respect you for doing all these debriefs though you know youll be belted by fans. Hards times ahead, but you'll definitely get through it...❤❤❤
I hope the upgrades work. The team really needs some immediate success
Can feel for Mr.Allison
But all is not lost
McLaren made a comeback last year
We can too
Great insight as always
As difficult as this is to watch, much respect to Mercedes and James for the transparency in these debriefs.
Woof...here we go
Hearing James speak is so refreshing after all the complaining Toto has been doing.
I’ve come to an expectation that the first couple of races every season are practically tests for really getting the car to do what we want and by the somewhat summer break will really see the car turn on. It’s going to take some more trial but it’s headed in the right direction I feel. 🤟🏾💜🖤💜
Keep pushing Team. Restructure, recruit. Get pitstop better. Ignore the critics, take it on the chin. But, please know we still believe in you and some of us will still be here in 2025 to support you and George.
Well if the upgrades for Miami don't work, it's all over for the season.
honest debrief😍😍😍
It's really heart breaking that we can't get our heads around ground effect 😢
Great video, but can I just pay a compliment to whomever did the lighting design for this set? Modern class.
How clean are those shoes
Is Lewis' car meant for the team's trials ? Seems every race on his car is like FP4/5 etc as you prepare the incoming number one drive,GR😮
the car is an absolute failture !! i believe W14 had the better concept to put the focus on !! there's no time to improve a completely new concept when in 26 we will have the new reg !!
We shall see.
You said in Jeddah thats the car is not good in high speed as per Norris pulling out 1 second in that sector, but you was good in the low speed. Now you are saying its no good in slow speed either? Whcih is it? or is it just overal not good at anything?
This took some time, but it's top notch.
After a few upgrades, all should be good.
Data Gatherers Petronas F1 Team
I am dead
0:00 James is going to execute Toto? 😮
I want Mr Allison to change the rear wing and side pod of the w15 please 🥺🙏
Mercedes should focus on 2026 when the new rules come into play and make sure that they are very well prepared to get the most of them, even though not all of these rules are clear yet. This period with the current rules, they can forget. RB had a better prep and some 'extracurriculars' and that will remain the same as what we saw in 2022 and 2023.
George drive a race without error 🤭😬🤭i giggled a little. Sorry 😂
Hopefully the upgrades bring good lap time
I am optimistic. I'd bank on Lewis getting into q3 this week.
The results of the weekend and the new parc fermé rules are a classic case of "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
Go Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Why don’t you answer the hard hitting questions rather that the soft one you do?
We understand the car better AMG F1 Team
4:03 Gotta thank Fernando for that one
Ver: 3:54 4:03 4:15 4:38 7:57 8:50 13:30
Not much faster in quali: 13:30
2023: 4:03 4:38 13:30
10:50 12:27
all good and well but in the end good results are needed. thats totally missing. so its still mission failed.
You must be repeating something from the last regulations that you think might still work
I don’t why this year after Hamilton news move to Ferrari, they deliberately made it difficult for him with the car.
(Ignore it)
Nah, The truth seems more to be that that Lewis is a bit clueless in setting up the car. The race car was worse than the Sprint car, after Lewis made setup changes, which he claimed to know exactly what needs to be done. LOL
We’ve changed the whole car, we’ve changed the floor, we’ve changed the front and back wing, we’ve changed where the driver sits, we’ve changed the suspension, we’ve changed the whole airflow. YOU’RE STILL COMPETING FOR 6TH!
5th*
They would be better of just sticking to the main concept that was giving them 2-3rd consistently
Engineering is hard.
With all due respect to all the amazing people at Mercedes they need to hire people specialising in ground effect.
Hamilton trying to find the magic button😂
James.....P2 in sprint qualy was Lewis merit; not the car
I really appreciate hearing from James. But hearing him speak only convinces me further that he seems to understand the problems with the car and how to fix them. I do not buy the whole story of not understanding the regulation changes. Don’t think they forgot how to build a fast car either. It just begs the question then, why hasn’t the car been fixed? What’s the real barrier to improving the performance of the car, materials, methods, manpower, machine or measurements?
Whoever is responsible for overseeing aero over the last 3 years they need to go, 3 years and still not understanding how to take advantage of ground affect just isn't good enough.
Lewis sure makes that car seems like there is a little hope
It was great for Lewis to get P2. As he fully deserves it. However it’s clear the car hasn’t improved since last year and has potentially gotten worse.
Bearing in mind that Merc were solidly 3rd best at minimum in Vegas and Abu Dhabi.
Since Lewis impending move to Ferrari is he already out of "sensitive" information and design decision? Why looks like both drivers are on completely different planets in same race? We know Lewis always like to fiddle setup but looks like engg team is not able to enforce enough 😢
COME ON GUYS!! that cat is way to Beautiful ti be such a "Bad Car"
First time seeing James Allison so downbeat, hope this team bounces back soon.
BUT DID YOU EXPECT P18
Toto wolf and James Allison ........ need to re-quote with university graduation that involve in motor engineering which could help Mercedes PETRONAS team ....... because those student might have a brilliant ideas to resolve what's Merdeces PETRONAS team facing ...... Toto wolf could took those graduation as practical employment......
It seems they didnot learn anything from 5 races
why are you not present in each and every race so that you can take a look at that maclaren and red bull.
For James, could you possibly tell us why you and the team were so bullish after testing, even claiming that you were faster than Ferrari on race pace? It is quite odd in hindsight because you have fallen very far behind them and others this season
Need to go back to the more informal approach it was much better and relatable. This feels too much like hey were just having a (heavily scripted) informal chat like a podcast or something... oh by the way here's all our sponsors. 🙄
This new W15 car needs a lot of improvements, it needs to have efficient floor downforce, good tire management and conservation, better cooling to avoid the shame of the Bahrain GP, less drag and more speed on straights, better stability and speed in corners. high, medium and low, more traction and mechanical grip when entering and exiting curves, lower center of gravity, better stability in curves. More PU power, especially from the ERS and MGU-K, MGH and Turbo. Mercedes should ask for technical advice from Gordon Murray's company, he is a master of ground effects, like Red Bull's Adrian Newey. Ferrari is advised by Rory Byrne, another master of aerodynamics and ground effects. Wolff, Horner is right, do you want help with the W15? Hire Gordon Murray and his advice. He knows and has designed ground effect cars. Mercedes' current engineers are incompetent! Mercedes must focus on the 2026 regulations, which begin on January 1, 2025. The date allowed by the FIA for the current teams on the grid to have authorization to develop the 2026 car, which is what matters, as no one in this current regulation will challenge Red Bull.
Merc can't win under the cost cap. They have to outspend teams to win.
Georges crash in Australia was his fault!
Kudos for still doing these sessions, because honestly Merc now is like a spoilt kid who will fail in each test no matter what
7 time world champion goat can't set up his car.
In my opinion with the cars brakes will work harder with hard tire and I wouldn't start with hard ever just burn the good tires off and get new ones
Lewis's set up is often wrong. Why is this constantly happening? Every race so far we have heard that Lewis's performance was compromised due to these wrong set up experiments. Why are the engineers not stepping in and saying, no Lewis, that is not right or we need to go less extreme?? This from the Daily Telegraph who explains it well:
"The decision-making process on Hamilton’s side of the garage has to be questioned. He took responsibility for the decision, but you would expect any radical set-up changes to be made after consultation with a larger group. This includes the key engineers with perhaps even Wolff involved, especially if there is an element of risk to it."
FFS can we you just STOP THE EXTREME SET-UP EXPERIMENTS ON LEWIS'S CAR!!!!
Lewis finished within 2 positions of where the car can finish. It doesn't matter what they do, Lewis is just trying to find some sort of performance, unfortunately Mercedes has just made another bad car. It doesn't matter if they finish p9 or p7. It's the same thing.
@@joshn1678 if it doesn't matter, then why isn't George doing it? He is the one in the car next year, so if they need to test extreme setups then use George. Lewis's races are continually compromised while George just sails away problem free.
Err... Lewis is setting the directions for the setup of his car and he gets it wrong more often than not.
only in Lewis I trust... the rest of it...😢
Another debrief avoiding the elephant in the room, just address why the car is slow, why is it still slow, why are redbull better, what is the plan to get there.
Still Lewis Rises 🙏🏽 amen
I’m rather sensing that Mercedes are actively sabotaging Sir Lewis Hamilton’s race car, since he announced he will be leaving to drive for Ferrari 🏎️ in 2025. In a tweet Hamilton claimed that peanut M&M’s were dropped into the footwell of his car on numerous occasions during the first 3 Grand Prix events of this year causing him to be distracted while driving and therefore losing valuable seconds during qualifying and races. Is this true ? 😳🤔
I can now understand why Rosberg didn't tell anyone he was retiring.
Mercedes is sabotaging Hamilton's car, yes that is and of course at each race they change the car for the worse and Hamilton falls to the back of the grid that is clear and a fact! Is Toto being dishonest by doing this to the driver who brought a lot of titles and money to Mercedes, who was Mercedes before Hamilton? So this year we should have gotten rid of this W15 rubbish
@@ricardofernandesduarte3515 Who was Mercedes before Hamilton? 🤔
Mercedes have been in Formula One since the dawn of the championship in the 1950's.
They had legendary drivers such as Fangio and Stirling Moss racing for them. Fangio winning two back to back titles.
There engines powered Mika Hakkinen's Mclaren to another two back to back wins in 98/99.
The Mercedes engine powered Lewis Hamilton to his first World Title in 2008 with Mclaren.
Before becoming the Mercedes AMG F1 team that we know today they also powered Jenson Button to his first and only World title in 09 with the Brawn GP team.
Lewis left Mclaren to race for Mercedes F1 team in 2013.
New regulations came into effect in 2014 and the Mercedes turbo hybrid engine dominated the series for many years to come.
Lewis went on to win the World Championship another 6 times (14,15,17,18,19,20) a magnificent record.
Losing only once in 2016 to his team m8 Nico Rosberg.
This is Mercedes!
Mercedes is making Hamilton make all those mistakes 😅
@@jonROCKworld No! Peanut M&M’s are 😜
See y'all in 2025 🫡✌️...
FORZA FERRARI 💪🔥🔥 ...
Going backwards? Explain this please as there's zero chance of finishing second in the constructors this season. So sad to watch every week.
I can't bear to watch anymore.
I just check the results after the race😢.
I will never understand why you (not only Merc but also Lewis himself) would turn the car that secured 2nd place in the Sprint - ahead of the likes of Alonso (who got P3 in qualifying afterwards!), the Ferraris, and the McLarens - upside down to mess everything up.
All this experimenting on Lewis's setups is really messing up his races. Every race so far he has had an issue because of a wrong setup choice. It's getting ridiculous. Lewis, his engineers and anyone else who is part of the decision making process needs to take a step back from the constant experimental setups. If Lewis feels comfortable in the car in a particular session, then DON'T CHANGE THE F*CKING CAR!!
It didn’t secure 2nd because it was the 2nd fastest though.
@@graviton6436 It was. He he drove away from Alonso, he drove away from everybody except Max, which was expected.
Why use Lewis car for experiments Y. If i was Lewis i was going to finish last every race!!.
The only reason LH got second is because of how he sets the car for himself win or lose. fgor Mercedes engioneers trying to gain any kind of credit for it is laughable.
Lewis has consistently ruined the cars pace on quali, race or both with changes he has chosen to make for himself. He's admitted it every single time. He's willing to risk all or nothing... And most of the time so far this season, he's ended up with nothing. But he's always happy to accept the blame for it. I'm sure he doesn't care much as it's not costing him race wins or a championship.
@@jakeandrews6296 🏆 I concur. and salute your sanity .o7 👍
You have a problem if that’s how you think , the team listened to Lewis and is the car as fast as you thought it will be ? It’s team work
@@eddykbee8308 The engineers have a base setup they can revert to , same with Georges car. A donkey is a donkey of a car. They are clueless and wouldnt allow Lewis to tweak the setup if they know they are categorically right. ( James Vowles ) was their golden ticket and they lost him to Williams)
After all LH gave them a WDC car (With james Vowles) not Nico, and not Michael.. Whats that you say? awaiting your sensible response!
@@alimantado373 James Vowles was was head of strategy and not engineering. The first thing Allison said was to praise Lewis for the sprint and not the engineers .
BRING BACK SEBASTIAN VETTEL
@ James Allison, when will u finally stop blaming 😔 others for your own mistakes? YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for the current team's situation, and it goes back to 2021... When u misread the change in rules. First it was Mike Elliott and now you're downgrading Hamilton's drive and choices? Come on man 👨...
Toto Wolff must have been a very very "good day" when he made the mistake of extending your contract...
It's a shame to keep the wrong leades on board.. only good at scapegoating ...
How about you use chapters in the video
What's up guys? Is the money going to the wrong place again?
Stop doing these until you are actually competitive
Fix the car.
Allison the most hyped and overrated engineer ever.....Elliot should never have been shown the door
Mercedes today is a disgrace! Arrogant and incompetent engineers! You need humility! Hamilton left because of this! Seek help from people who know how to manufacture ground-effect cars. Like Rory Byrne, Gordon Murray, Adrian Newey. Hire Newey and Pierre Waché before Ferrari does!
I hate the sprint format
Failcedes. The worst or nothing.
I would also like to mention my distaste for Michelle Foster on PF1. Many times I read comments there and did not feel the need but I connect with some Hamilton fans on our WhatsApp community and it is discussed there how often this woman (term used loosely) singles out Hamilton for her putrid bile of covert hatred and borderline xenophobia and I believe the team should address these regardless of if it were Hamilton or any other driver. Her sickening attacks are always coming from so-called past F1 stars or journos uncannily all are from either Belgium or The Netherlands and of course South Africa. We did our research and by the look of her photo, it explains her mentality. I recon the indigenous folks in her adopted country are treated the same? It is rather sickening. We are a group of 12 Hamilton fans and ask that any fan of Hamilton refrain from PF1 and the Express and Mail as a mark of respect for Hamilton he has contributed too much to F1 to be treated with such disrespect- As a European I ask why? I am ashamed to be in the same grouping of these.
Sir Lewis in my opinion is inordinately attacked by F1 fans. People try to discredit him a lot pointing to this that or the other thing. But come on now I'm really sure what's bothering them as they are usually very quiet when others do the same. It seems Lewis is judged by a different set of rules. That being said the comment section of PF1 hardly has 6 brain cells between them. It's just a large congregation of weirdos. I'm a Lewis fan. An African at that but I don't think ethnicity should be an issue. But basically I have no shadow of a doubt that most of these called f1 fans are on some bs 99% of the time. And they think we can't see it. I think it's more of a societal issue. And people should be kind to each other regardless. But I've come to believe respect in this sport is hard to come by. Especially if you happen to be Lewis. He gets it the worst. But those who ride for Lewis ride for him. So we'll keep the positive energy going. That was long winded but I'll close by saying it's what's in you not what's on you. Nipsey Hussle!!!
The car sucks. Again.
Mercedes are totally lost! They should break the bank and go get Newey
All of the excuses are sickening
FIX YOUR CAR!!!