Looking for how to counter centaur spam in Age of Mythology: Retold? Look no further than Thor Forset hersirs!! #aom #ageofmythology #retold #centaurs #hersirs #hearttouching
Hmmm... I could do that. I didn't record them but I did stream them, so maybe I can download the VOD. Perhaps I find one or two good games and review! The last game vs Magic was really good
Yea it is wrong mentioned in the tooltips, Hall of Thanes give +15% speed to heros, so the textbox makes actually sense. great play, thx for the video!
SOOOOO sweeet. I love it. i have the proplem that my micro is to bad atm to army split i am glad when i can micro the axeman to fokus infantire in group figths. yeah but watching you play shows dat fundamentals are so important and you can go very far with that. Maybe we meet somday on ladder!
You maybe could have built fewer trolls and just placed another healing spring in the middle of the map this particular game. I'm not sure if its something to plan for or whether it's entirely worthwhile - but in positions where you're this far ahead, just sitting healing while gold starving is maybe better than anything else you can do with the favour in classical age.
Hey, I do eventually get a healing spring in the middle! I'm honestly not sure if it's worth spending so much favor on, but like you say, it's extremely useful!
@@HUSKSUPPE Hey thanks for the response! I saw the spring after the center TC, but like you said even at that point you could have done anything you wanted you were so far ahead. I just wonder whether a second spring is a better use for the metric tonnes of favor you generate with hammer of thunder hersir - I have a hard time using it efficiently in the classical age, and trolls feel relatively middling and slow for this quick hersir+hirdman army.
looks really interesting! Big downside that you need to use dwarven mine or leave your base for 2nd gold a lot earlier, but I think it has a lot of potential. Haven't played around with it myself just yet...
They have access to Freyja, so you can just mass raiding cavalry with medium upgrade and thundering hooves. They are good vs both centaurs and hippeus! If he goes hoplites instead of hippeus, you go hersirs + TA!
I wonder if opponent could catch you off guard with full on hoplite+toxotes transition (with emphasis on toxotes) after his initial centaur + heroes poke, as you don't really have vision on his production buildings until pushing into his base (at which point you've made investment into hirdmen). Would full hersir still do well enough against that? I suppose those wouldn't be Hades toxotes, but still.
Hersirs with all these Thor upgrades are honestly not bad! They won't win vs hoplite toxotes, but then they are faster, so you can decide when to fight. And if you get heroic with FW they will win against hop+tox for sure!
Hey Suppe, I've been doing that build vs centaurs, but the real issue are the Poseidon centaurs which are 5.9 Base speed and have equally speedy hippeus that Bodyblock and slow down your heros even further . How do you deal with that ?
ye, poseidon makes things harder! They can even add the +10% movement speed from Spirited Charge. The good thing about facing poseidon is that he is slower to get started. He gets favor slower and doesn't start with 10 favor. So vs Poseidon you can maybe get away with doing a semi-fast heroic or something like that. You can then use Frost on his army and wall in the centaurs! idk, it's a tough matchup, and you are probably right that this is more useful vs zeus than pos.
Is this strategy effective in Egypt as well? I always find myself countered by the god powers of Anubis, snakes, and mummies, and I lose the game at the Tier 3 Mixdol Fortress.
Yeah, I think this is good vs egyptian too! Hirdman actually counter all the migdol units, but obviously dies quickly to chariot archer. You will also need TA if he makes axemen...
Love love love!! The editing for the intro. So good!
Thanks!!!
That's some high quality content
thanks! Still learning, there is so much more information I want to convey in an intro like this, but maybe over time I get better :)
shhh don't tell'em! I've been using this strat and it's amazing
hahaha, sorry!!! :D
That editing is crazy good!
Amazin contant man underrated af
havn't played AoM in nearly 20 years this was a great video to watch cheers mate
I think developers should add a feature when healthpoints drop below 20% wounded units move gradually slower the lower the health.
0:15 - Centaur be feelin' the music
really good vidoe and great editing in the start
Love this video ❤
Thank you!!
good information, thanks for sharing
SUPPE! Are you going to do a review of your games from the Tournament?
Hmmm... I could do that. I didn't record them but I did stream them, so maybe I can download the VOD. Perhaps I find one or two good games and review! The last game vs Magic was really good
Yea it is wrong mentioned in the tooltips, Hall of Thanes give +15% speed to heros, so the textbox makes actually sense. great play, thx for the video!
Legend! ❤
SOOOOO sweeet. I love it. i have the proplem that my micro is to bad atm to army split i am glad when i can micro the axeman to fokus infantire in group figths. yeah but watching you play shows dat fundamentals are so important and you can go very far with that. Maybe we meet somday on ladder!
haha, hope so! Good luck with it :)
i though you was casting boit ahaha, multiverse
You maybe could have built fewer trolls and just placed another healing spring in the middle of the map this particular game. I'm not sure if its something to plan for or whether it's entirely worthwhile - but in positions where you're this far ahead, just sitting healing while gold starving is maybe better than anything else you can do with the favour in classical age.
Hey, I do eventually get a healing spring in the middle! I'm honestly not sure if it's worth spending so much favor on, but like you say, it's extremely useful!
@@HUSKSUPPE Hey thanks for the response! I saw the spring after the center TC, but like you said even at that point you could have done anything you wanted you were so far ahead. I just wonder whether a second spring is a better use for the metric tonnes of favor you generate with hammer of thunder hersir - I have a hard time using it efficiently in the classical age, and trolls feel relatively middling and slow for this quick hersir+hirdman army.
7:10 it's game over
This does not feel like C tier
haha, I actually mentioned in my tier list video that on this particular map, Thor is probably at least A tier! Maybe S tier...
Do you think Loki could handle centaurs the same way without armory upgrades?
Yes!! I did this in two games during my Red Bull qualifier run. Perfectly viable with Loki too.
What's your opinion on full Dwarfs build?
looks really interesting! Big downside that you need to use dwarven mine or leave your base for 2nd gold a lot earlier, but I think it has a lot of potential.
Haven't played around with it myself just yet...
Any recommendations on what to do as Norse when you're playing a god without access to hall of thanes, like Freyr or Odin?
They have access to Freyja, so you can just mass raiding cavalry with medium upgrade and thundering hooves. They are good vs both centaurs and hippeus! If he goes hoplites instead of hippeus, you go hersirs + TA!
kinda seems OP. greeks have no unit to answer with
I wonder if opponent could catch you off guard with full on hoplite+toxotes transition (with emphasis on toxotes) after his initial centaur + heroes poke, as you don't really have vision on his production buildings until pushing into his base (at which point you've made investment into hirdmen). Would full hersir still do well enough against that? I suppose those wouldn't be Hades toxotes, but still.
Hersirs with all these Thor upgrades are honestly not bad! They won't win vs hoplite toxotes, but then they are faster, so you can decide when to fight. And if you get heroic with FW they will win against hop+tox for sure!
Hey Suppe, I've been doing that build vs centaurs, but the real issue are the Poseidon centaurs which are 5.9 Base speed and have equally speedy hippeus that Bodyblock and slow down your heros even further . How do you deal with that ?
ye, poseidon makes things harder! They can even add the +10% movement speed from Spirited Charge. The good thing about facing poseidon is that he is slower to get started. He gets favor slower and doesn't start with 10 favor. So vs Poseidon you can maybe get away with doing a semi-fast heroic or something like that. You can then use Frost on his army and wall in the centaurs! idk, it's a tough matchup, and you are probably right that this is more useful vs zeus than pos.
Oh nice, thanks for bringing that up. I wasn't sure if Poseidon only boosted human cav only or if centaurs counted too.
Lol nice flex, made Player looks like a noob here.
Is this strategy effective in Egypt as well? I always find myself countered by the god powers of Anubis, snakes, and mummies, and I lose the game at the Tier 3 Mixdol Fortress.
Yeah, I think this is good vs egyptian too! Hirdman actually counter all the migdol units, but obviously dies quickly to chariot archer. You will also need TA if he makes axemen...
2:50 stupid question but how do you pre-queue things lol?
right click to upgrades
right click the technology in the UI!
Prefer Loki hersir but I have defeated this style with eggy priest
eggy priests are a good counter, but you need heroic age! Their range is way too low in classical imo