Doing a comparison between the sig P320 and the Sig P320 M17. Overall I really love both pistols but if I could only have one I’d honestly take the M17
Its shorter so that Sig can use the same grip module for the M18 as well. That way when they put the M18 compact slide on it and it falls flush with the smaller slide. This also adds the versatility for the military to change the slide/upper as they need to for the specifics of the mission they're being tasked with. That way Sig can save money by only making one frame size(carry is the size and different control sizes...small/med/large) and the military can save money by only purchasing slides and barrels instead of a completely new serialized firearm module. Each member depending on their job could potentially be issued a frame, and then both the longer M17 slide and the shorter M18 where they can switch between the two if needs arise.
Nope. Trigger is the seeialized part. Frame is completely interchangeable as well. Trigger group can come out of frame so you can change frame modules as well so it’s more versatile for different military soldiers say a woman with small hands, they can change the frame to one with a smaller grip. Really not sure why they used a shorter frame for m17. Because the marines received the m18 and the army got the m17. Since the trigger is the serialized part, the army can order as many new frames as needed for cheap without needing to buy a whole new firearm making it more modular
The military will never buy replacement slides or frames... the contracts are for pistols only. They literally can only buy "wearable, replacement parts" such as springs and magazines... Should a gun get so worn or broken that it needs a new frame or slide, they are contractually obligated to replace it with a new gun. That's just how military contracts work. ...and being able to swap slides and fire control groups was not even at all part of the MHS requirements. They will never be inter-mingled because the two different sizes pistols are issued to two entirely different Branches of the Military as noted above.
Damn that's what I get for not buying from an informed Sig rep. I asked a local town salesman if the M17 model had any internal differences from the civilian P320, specifically for durability, hot loads, etc. Was told that aside from the rear sight cuts on the slide, the shorter grip, the thumb safety, and the tan finish, they were identical. Knew I shoulda just went with the M17, oh well lmao.
They didn't extend the frame all the way to the end because it's modular, so if you got a shorter slide and barrel, you now have the M18. It's like the P365 and P365XL variants where you can interchange the slides and frames with each other. So if they extended the frame to the end, they no longer have modularity with the M18.
I bought this gun recently and the force it takes to operate the safety is more than it takes to release the slide so I’ve never knocked the safety releasing the slide.
The military has actually sold its original versions of the m17 and changes have been made here and there. They actually are getting the same version we get now with the back controls . The gold controls on the commemoration versions were the v1s that were the early issues versions and the trial versions. Newer updates models are identical ti the civilian versions now. At least what I’ve heard
I believe they used the shorter frame so they can use a compact slide on it. The shorter frame will accept the full size slide and the compact size slide. If they used the longer full size frame..then they wouldnt be able to run the compact slide. The shorter frame works for both slides.
I think the reason for the shortened rail is because people usually use the first and second slot for lights and lasers, and weight reduction is more like the second-not-big-of-a-deal reason.
Take them both to the range for accuracy comparison test. I like both guns and would prefer the M17 if I could shoot it marginally better than the regular p320.
I like a manual safety. I got an M17 fcu and put it in a Compact RXP slide with a Wilson Combat Carry 2 grip module. It fits the compact slide but uses the 17 rnd mags.
Very good review showing the differences. I really like that Safari lands holster you have! When you're on their website, which P320 model did you select to work with the M17? It's pretty obvious which one it is, but I just want to double check before hitting the order button. Thanks!!
Nice comparison. I LOVE my M-17... When I first bought, thought the grip might be a little small for my "paw", so ordered the "Wilson Combat", upon receiving the Sig, I found everything fit perfectly, so I left it original and started having fun. Going to try Vortex's new pistol red dot... but I hear ya, love them irons. Take care and Happy Shooting
@@colddeadhands7202 m17 has a gross and squishy feeling trigger lol. M&p is miles better and crisper than the m17. The m17 is just lighter. The actual break feels like there’s a sponge behind it
Purchased my M-17 w/o safety in Fl. for $700, 1-17 & 2-21 round magazines. The slide is a poor coating but i'll most likely have to cerakote it after a couple thousand rounds.
will the 6378 SLS safarland holster fit a stock m17 with no rmr? i have the pistol and in the future will be putting a RMR on it, but dont want to have to buy two holsters
T N. Yes you can. I saw another guy take a 320 compact and added it to his m17 to make an M18 clone (not exact because of the sight rail) because he will be issues the M18 and wanted to practice with something as close as he can with it
Region 1 Resistance depends on the frame, slide and barrel. Certain slides won’t fit certain frames, and some frames aren’t rated for certain calibers.
They did not extend the dust cover so they can interchange parts between the m18 and m17. I own the p320 xcarry which is the more updated version off the p320 compact/m18
But the m18 and m17 are issued to two different military branches so I don’t see how they will be swapping parts. Army got the m17 contract and marines got a m18 contract
Nothing wrong with the P320 (find handgun) but I too prefer my M17/M18 for the reasons you mentioned. To me, the P365 XL feels like the subcompact+ version of the P320 (first subcompact that feels and fires like a larger handgun) so it's my IWB carry, which is most of the time. Love it! As you mentioned, the M17 is just a fun, fun, fun weapon to shoot while plinking. Sadly, I carry it rarely because, when I do, I taking on my Beretta M9A4 OWB. Moreover, during the winter months I'll conceal the M18 (98% the same gun with a smaller profile) or CZ P07 under my jacket. Regardless, it's a fine weapon...wish I was one of those guy who could carry it IWB. Enjoyed.
I purchased the M17. I love it. Shoots very well. Biggest issue is finding a proper holster (OWB). Some producers said the M17 would work in a certain holster (are you reading this Alien gear)?
You can also purchase the Safariland holster system that was designed for it with the military contract (I believe it's called the 7TS). They come in both ALS and SLS retention options. That's what I've been issued and it feels great. Not that I'm saying the Ragnarok is a bad holster either. I love mine too. =]
They teach that in the Army. When you draw it, your thumb is on the safety and ready to be switched. It's one fluid motion and works well. As an Army pilot, I fly with the M17 on my chest, and Im a big fan of it.
got mine for $650 with 2 mags, still worth. Put a DPP on it, got a few extra mags, a 21 and 2 of the clear cheap mags (another 17 and a lol30), got a ALS holster as well and slapped an Olight on it. Great pistol.
Picked my M17 for $535 and got the two 21 round mags for free through Sig. End up buying the black carry grip Module wish i would have went with the full size to reach the end of the slide.
I got my M-17 this past weekend put a couple hundred rounds through it and fell in love. I paid 600 before taxes at Cabela's, got two of the 21 round mags for it plus the 17 round and a holster. Really great deal, don't know if that's a U.S only thing, but it's a fantastic fire arm. Super accurate and very comfortable to shoot. Couldn't recommend it more
Damn son Canada be robbing you guys. I just bought the Sig P320 M18 for $640. The M17 was the same price but the M18 just felt so much better in the hand. As to why they went with the carry grip size I believe it's so they can switch between the M18 and M17 slide depending on mission requirements without needing a whole new grip module.
Oh and the M18 came with 1, 17 round mag and 2, 21 round mags whereas the M17 only came with 2, 17 round mags. Just another selling point to me to get the M18 over the M17.
I live in Ohio and I paid right around the same price for the M18 and I've shot both and I do prefer the 17 over the 18 I think simply because the length but to me it just feels better it shoots better quicker to cite but the good thing about the sig Sauer is I don't have to buy a whole other gun I can just buy the upper slide and the barrel and the guide pin assembly and then I have a m17 and an M18 I love the sig Sauer and I do love the 320 series
It is a "Carry" Grip Module. The reason is the M18 uses the same Grip Module. M18 is the military "Carry" version, and the USMC chose it. I got my M17 new in box for $450 shipped.
Yes it is I have just recently fell in love myself with the 320 series I picked up a few on the red box refurbished ones and at the time I also got a Glock 17 G5 MOS and was busy with that upgrades holster etc. but when I went and shot the 320 again it was just awesome so I just ordered the sub compact conversion kit and am looking for grips and holsters I already ordered a als like you have and your right there just great I have a few too awesome vid man keep it up thanks!!
@@lessforloans ya really can't go ring with the Sig 320 series great gun But while the gun may not be to expensive mags are and certain other upgrades and such and especially now with prices the way they are. But if you can afford it go for it you definitely won't regret it. Iv got Hollow Sons on all my Glocks now that can take them and put Johnny glock combat/carry triggers in all of them I'm just doing all the small stuff now until prices go down
Anthony Boccarossa the military one has special coated internals for corrosion resistance and a much heavier slide to help it handle the military’s hotter loads
In the military, the 4 weapons safety rules must always be observed, and their weapons safety rules are slightly different than civilians. Treat every weapon as if it is loaded Never point your weapon at anything you do not intent to shoot Keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you intend to fire. Most Marines remember it by "Treat, Never, Keep, Keep."
I do private security in Tx USA. My Sig M17 with one 17 round and two 21 rounds came out to be $703.00 Not bad at all. And it was a tax deduction as well.
I own the full size X , in black w/ no safety...I like it better than the m17 and it's cheaper...first time shooting it I grouped 17 rounds in a 4" circle at 10 yds....almost no muzzle lift!
That’s what I’m looking at. I have a hen 5 g17 and was looking to either trade it or maybe just keep it and pick it up So you really like it over a Glock?
I don't know why Sig even carries the full grip module anymore. The carry module does everything the full module does and works for both the 4.7 and 3.9 slides.
Jimmini what is your opinion on the controversy with the p320? I was able to handle one at the gun store yesterday and honestly loved everything about it but then I got home and saw all the controversy. Not too sure what to do.
@@connerp6369 I doubt they’re accidentally happening. Any case I’ve seen is bad holster or they user is doing something to the gun that they probably shouldn’t
I cringed when I found out the Canadian law takes almost 50% of its intended capacity. So dumb that people believe that capacity makes some magical difference in lethality if a criminal had to reload more. But at least you guys up north can still enjoy recreational shooting.
Yeah im gonna snap its really pissing me off having all these retarded magazines. Makes tem feel like a waste of money when it holds half of what it should. And things are about to get way worse with dingle berry trudeau in charge. Goodbye semi auto "black rifles" And soon after hand guns im sure Maybe i can get a wood finish cerakote on my colt le6920. Then it will be less dangerous and fully suited for hunting game and not people...
I would assume SIG is using the same sized frame on both the M18 and M17, thus the shorter rail on the M17 but it reaches the end of barrel on the M18. Probably to maximize tooling / production costs.
agree but sigs just have the absolute worst finish durability I've ever seen. You can scratch the nitron finish just setting the gun on a table. I have a glock and M&P about 20 years old that look brand new. My year old p320 looks like i drug i threw it down a mountain.
I don’t want a safety on my pistol unless its a single hammer action. And you can’t find a black no safety version. Plus with all the P320 custom possibilities its not really that appealing unless you want an military collector gun or a simple P320. Then again you can also customize it at a later time… So just having the fire control unit means the skies the limit…
So you're saying with the holster wear, it's going to look AWESOME when it's all worn in and used properly. Just enjoy a good group and a great gun that wears in classily. Sig makes good stuff.
Its shorter so that Sig can use the same grip module for the M18 as well. That way when they put the M18 compact slide on it and it falls flush with the smaller slide. This also adds the versatility for the military to change the slide/upper as they need to for the specifics of the mission they're being tasked with. That way Sig can save money by only making one frame size(carry is the size and different control sizes...small/med/large) and the military can save money by only purchasing slides and barrels instead of a completely new serialized firearm module. Each member depending on their job could potentially be issued a frame, and then both the longer M17 slide and the shorter M18 where they can switch between the two if needs arise.
Thanks, ur awesome for that
Nope. Trigger is the seeialized part. Frame is completely interchangeable as well. Trigger group can come out of frame so you can change frame modules as well so it’s more versatile for different military soldiers say a woman with small hands, they can change the frame to one with a smaller grip. Really not sure why they used a shorter frame for m17. Because the marines received the m18 and the army got the m17. Since the trigger is the serialized part, the army can order as many new frames as needed for cheap without needing to buy a whole new firearm making it more modular
M18 and m17 were issued to 2 different military branches. So they won’t be switching slides
The military will never buy replacement slides or frames... the contracts are for pistols only. They literally can only buy "wearable, replacement parts" such as springs and magazines... Should a gun get so worn or broken that it needs a new frame or slide, they are contractually obligated to replace it with a new gun. That's just how military contracts work.
...and being able to swap slides and fire control groups was not even at all part of the MHS requirements. They will never be inter-mingled because the two different sizes pistols are issued to two entirely different Branches of the Military as noted above.
When Canadians can get guns that Californians can't... feels bad.
So why cant yall get this pistol? I saw someone else say this but i dont know Cali laws. Im in PA
Not anymore.
@@insanity4082 bru lol
If I got it in NJ sure you can in CA
@@Fdesouza nope, California has an approved firearms list where you can only buy pistol models that have been registered legally.
Great comparison and review! Love stumbling across Canadian reviews like yours.... keep up the good work!
Damn that's what I get for not buying from an informed Sig rep.
I asked a local town salesman if the M17 model had any internal differences from the civilian P320, specifically for durability, hot loads, etc.
Was told that aside from the rear sight cuts on the slide, the shorter grip, the thumb safety, and the tan finish, they were identical.
Knew I shoulda just went with the M17, oh well lmao.
They didn't extend the frame all the way to the end because it's modular, so if you got a shorter slide and barrel, you now have the M18. It's like the P365 and P365XL variants where you can interchange the slides and frames with each other. So if they extended the frame to the end, they no longer have modularity with the M18.
Great video. Just what I was looking for.
The safety just looks like it would get in the way of the slide release. Glad they're making a no manual safety version.
I bought this gun recently and the force it takes to operate the safety is more than it takes to release the slide so I’ve never knocked the safety releasing the slide.
doesn't get in the way of slide release feels very natural would highly recommend this unit to any one .
Great review and good job comparing
The military has actually sold its original versions of the m17 and changes have been made here and there. They actually are getting the same version we get now with the back controls . The gold controls on the commemoration versions were the v1s that were the early issues versions and the trial versions. Newer updates models are identical ti the civilian versions now. At least what I’ve heard
I believe they used the shorter frame so they can use a compact slide on it. The shorter frame will accept the full size slide and the compact size slide. If they used the longer full size frame..then they wouldnt be able to run the compact slide. The shorter frame works for both slides.
I think the reason for the shortened rail is because people usually use the first and second slot for lights and lasers, and weight reduction is more like the second-not-big-of-a-deal reason.
Great review, thank you
You can put a shorter slide on the M17
As a beretta guy myself too, I do like the M17. Will definitely pick one up :D
Wait, I didn't know you could own those in Canada.
Take them both to the range for accuracy comparison test. I like both guns and would prefer the M17 if I could shoot it marginally better than the regular p320.
I like a manual safety. I got an M17 fcu and put it in a Compact RXP slide with a Wilson Combat Carry 2 grip module. It fits the compact slide but uses the 17 rnd mags.
Great review!
In texas and I got the M-17 for $640 after taxes! Thank god I'm not in canada!
Washington State I paid 609$ and got 3 magazines 2 21 rounds and a 17 round mag
Jacob Harnden Woah where at??
Lol. I guess you enjoy paying ridiculous healthcare costs. Enjoy
@@alexthefong yeah we don't die waiting in line its p cool
In Louisiana I paid 580 brand new for the M18. Came with 2 21 rd and 1 17 rd mags. But now I'd rather the M17.
I paid 500 out the door for my m17. Love the gun. I run it with a safariland drop leg holster. Works great for when im out on the motorcycle
Were you able to purchase this online for $500?
Thanks
@@highfi3726 at a local gun shop
From leyroy out of his trunk? No way that cheap!
funny we use safari land holsters in the army too not much of a fan of them tho
Very good review showing the differences. I really like that Safari lands holster you have! When you're on their website, which P320 model did you select to work with the M17? It's pretty obvious which one it is, but I just want to double check before hitting the order button. Thanks!!
Thomas Usowski I got the model 7378 7TS model. It’s for the standard P320 not the M17 specifically but as you saw it still works well
Rail is prob cut for less bulk up front... looks WAY better with the full size rail though...
Yes m16 is with the money. The chamber flag and safety make it perfect. The 320 compact is my carry gun, the m18 is my truck pistol…win/win!!!
Nice comparison.
I LOVE my M-17...
When I first bought, thought the grip might be a little small for my "paw", so ordered the "Wilson Combat", upon receiving the Sig, I found everything fit perfectly, so I left it original and started having fun.
Going to try Vortex's new pistol red dot... but I hear ya, love them irons.
Take care and Happy Shooting
Nice video dude.. cheers from brazil! I would go for the m17 as well
I love my p320. Got one last month and haven't touched my M&P since.
I have the S&W M2 compact and I absolutely love it. I shoot flawlessly with it. How does the 320 hold up?
P320 has a much better trigger than the M&P.
Apex trigger would be needed for a M&P.
@@colddeadhands7202 m17 has a gross and squishy feeling trigger lol. M&p is miles better and crisper than the m17. The m17 is just lighter. The actual break feels like there’s a sponge behind it
Although the rail is shorter on the M17 I do as well like the way that it looks a little better
Purchased my M-17 w/o safety in Fl. for $700, 1-17 & 2-21 round magazines. The slide is a poor coating but i'll most likely have to cerakote it after a couple thousand rounds.
will the 6378 SLS safarland holster fit a stock m17 with no rmr? i have the pistol and in the future will be putting a RMR on it, but dont want to have to buy two holsters
I believe the frame is cut so you can convert it to a shorter carry size
@@deadeyeddanny so if i get a painted 320 compact frame, I can put it on the m17?
T N. Yes you can. I saw another guy take a 320 compact and added it to his m17 to make an M18 clone (not exact because of the sight rail) because he will be issues the M18 and wanted to practice with something as close as he can with it
Region 1 Resistance depends on the frame, slide and barrel. Certain slides won’t fit certain frames, and some frames aren’t rated for certain calibers.
They did not extend the dust cover so they can interchange parts between the m18 and m17. I own the p320 xcarry which is the more updated version off the p320 compact/m18
But the m18 and m17 are issued to two different military branches so I don’t see how they will be swapping parts. Army got the m17 contract and marines got a m18 contract
Nothing wrong with the P320 (find handgun) but I too prefer my M17/M18 for the reasons you mentioned. To me, the P365 XL feels like the subcompact+ version of the P320 (first subcompact that feels and fires like a larger handgun) so it's my IWB carry, which is most of the time. Love it! As you mentioned, the M17 is just a fun, fun, fun weapon to shoot while plinking. Sadly, I carry it rarely because, when I do, I taking on my Beretta M9A4 OWB. Moreover, during the winter months I'll conceal the M18 (98% the same gun with a smaller profile) or CZ P07 under my jacket. Regardless, it's a fine weapon...wish I was one of those guy who could carry it IWB. Enjoyed.
The frame is cut short for a more adaptable conceal carry.
I purchased the M17. I love it. Shoots very well. Biggest issue is finding a proper holster (OWB). Some producers said the M17 would work in a certain holster (are you reading this Alien gear)?
Trex arms ragnarok bro！Best owb holster IMO
You can also purchase the Safariland holster system that was designed for it with the military contract (I believe it's called the 7TS). They come in both ALS and SLS retention options. That's what I've been issued and it feels great. Not that I'm saying the Ragnarok is a bad holster either. I love mine too. =]
Safariland 7378
I may have missed it in the video but are there any internal differences between the two models?
And thanks for the video!
I have the M17 P320 and I’m loving it
I've got a Beretta 92x RDO full size. The P320 is next on my list. Just curious is the barrel length on these the same as a full size Beretta?
They teach that in the Army. When you draw it, your thumb is on the safety and ready to be switched. It's one fluid motion and works well. As an Army pilot, I fly with the M17 on my chest, and Im a big fan of it.
Bought the m17 with 3 mags and a holster in the states for $640
got mine for $650 with 2 mags, still worth. Put a DPP on it, got a few extra mags, a 21 and 2 of the clear cheap mags (another 17 and a lol30), got a ALS holster as well and slapped an Olight on it. Great pistol.
Picked my M17 for $535 and got the two 21 round mags for free through Sig. End up buying the black carry grip Module wish i would have went with the full size to reach the end of the slide.
I got the sig Sauer m17 for $650 with 2 17 mags and 2 21 round mags.
Nice
Yup i got mine custom engraved for $720
I got my M-17 this past weekend put a couple hundred rounds through it and fell in love. I paid 600 before taxes at Cabela's, got two of the 21 round mags for it plus the 17 round and a holster. Really great deal, don't know if that's a U.S only thing, but it's a fantastic fire arm. Super accurate and very comfortable to shoot. Couldn't recommend it more
The lower module is shorter because it's compatible with the M18
Saftey and color is really it lol. I’ve had and field stripped both
I’m seeing 2 versions of the m17 one with the safety like yours and one without ? Know why
because some people do not want a manual safety.
just build ur own how you want it. thats the great thing about sig modularity
You mentioned a Safariland holster for your M17. Having trouble finding on. whats the model number and where did you find it in Canada?
Amazon. Safariland 7378 ALS
I’m not a fan of the sights on the m17. They don’t really jump out at you in the day time.
Damn son Canada be robbing you guys. I just bought the Sig P320 M18 for $640. The M17 was the same price but the M18 just felt so much better in the hand. As to why they went with the carry grip size I believe it's so they can switch between the M18 and M17 slide depending on mission requirements without needing a whole new grip module.
Oh and the M18 came with 1, 17 round mag and 2, 21 round mags whereas the M17 only came with 2, 17 round mags. Just another selling point to me to get the M18 over the M17.
Canada isn't robbing us, its the exchange rate. $640 USD comes out to about $860 CAD.
I live in Ohio and I paid right around the same price for the M18 and I've shot both and I do prefer the 17 over the 18 I think simply because the length but to me it just feels better it shoots better quicker to cite but the good thing about the sig Sauer is I don't have to buy a whole other gun I can just buy the upper slide and the barrel and the guide pin assembly and then I have a m17 and an M18 I love the sig Sauer and I do love the 320 series
Good content I just bought the M17 last one in my area
It is a "Carry" Grip Module. The reason is the M18 uses the same Grip Module. M18 is the military "Carry" version, and the USMC chose it.
I got my M17 new in box for $450 shipped.
Where from?
@@ModernMinutemen my M17 came from an individual, but I just got my P320 Carry .40 for $369 from CDNN. They still have some in stock.
@@M4A3 yea, CDNN has a bunch of used ones on sale right now. Was just interested how you got a new M17 for under $500
@@ModernMinutemen a guy I know has cancer, and he needed quick cash. I couldn't pass it up. I need a subcompact upper, know of any?
love the video i thought $650 for the M18 was crazy lol the 320 here is about $499 in texas
Sir, Do you have the link for that holster?
I paid $599 at GrabAGun, picked up my M17 yesterday at my FLL dealer
Felipe deSouza it’s the Safariland 7378TS
Will the m17 grip module fit on the fullsize p320 or is it to short? Wasnt sure if the slides are the same length.
The slide on the p320 is bigger then the m17s slide
609$ with two 21 round mags and a 17 round mag Washington State
Far out. Where?
@@BaronSaturday66 sportco in Fife washington my buddy got the m18 the other day there too
Yes it is I have just recently fell in love myself with the 320 series I picked up a few on the red box refurbished ones and at the time I also got a Glock 17 G5 MOS and was busy with that upgrades holster etc. but when I went and shot the 320 again it was just awesome so I just ordered the sub compact conversion kit and am looking for grips and holsters I already ordered a als like you have and your right there just great I have a few too awesome vid man keep it up thanks!!
What do you prefer now n days. G17? I love mine but I’ve had my eye on the 320x full
@@lessforloans ya really can't go ring with the Sig 320 series great gun But while the gun may not be to expensive mags are and certain other upgrades and such and especially now with prices the way they are. But if you can afford it go for it you definitely won't regret it. Iv got Hollow Sons on all my Glocks now that can take them and put Johnny glock combat/carry triggers in all of them I'm just doing all the small stuff now until prices go down
@@MegaMastiffman right on. So what pistol do you like more?
is the fcu for the m17 still modular? like can i buy a x5 legion body and switch it out?
Yup you can
Which one is stronger?
The sig M17 can convert to the M18. Which the M18 has a shorter barrel.
Hello sir. I would like to ask what is the complete name of your holster?
Santos Jiro it’s the safariland 7378 7TS ALS
@@vkyle91x Is the M17 finish Ceracote?
I bought a m18 today it and the m17 was 629.99 each in Kentucky
Where can I get a extended mag for my P320
Just bought my M17 today. Traded in my M&P 2.0 9mm.. my question, what's the difference in the civilian model and the military variant ??
Anthony Boccarossa the military one has special coated internals for corrosion resistance and a much heavier slide to help it handle the military’s hotter loads
@@vkyle91x oh, and the military version also has a different takedown system so only an armour (with the right tools) can take the frame off.
Sig P320
$590
In South Texas last week
In the military, the 4 weapons safety rules must always be observed, and their weapons safety rules are slightly different than civilians.
Treat every weapon as if it is loaded
Never point your weapon at anything you do not intent to shoot
Keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire
Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you intend to fire.
Most Marines remember it by "Treat, Never, Keep, Keep."
Erik Hammer that’s sorta not what I learned.
Hooah
Always be aware of your target and what lies behind
I do private security in Tx USA. My Sig M17 with one 17 round and two 21 rounds came out to be $703.00
Not bad at all. And it was a tax deduction as well.
What’s the difference in triggers and shooting though? Do they run the same trigger and assemblies internally?
Brian Shockley run pretty well the same and yes I’m pretty sure it’s the same trigger setup in both guns
absolutely love my M17 is well worth what i paid for it shoots Fa nominal no issues as of yet!
Love it
I own the full size X , in black w/ no safety...I like it better than the m17 and it's cheaper...first time shooting it I grouped 17 rounds in a 4" circle at 10 yds....almost no muzzle lift!
That’s what I’m looking at. I have a hen 5 g17 and was looking to either trade it or maybe just keep it and pick it up
So you really like it over a Glock?
Nothing a good drill bit won't solve. Do you have drill bit laws?
Just bought my m17 for 640 in Wisconsin
I don't know why Sig even carries the full grip module anymore. The carry module does everything the full module does and works for both the 4.7 and 3.9 slides.
Girly hands. Most boys are now raised by women.
Divorce destroyed families.
Jimmini what is your opinion on the controversy with the p320? I was able to handle one at the gun store yesterday and honestly loved everything about it but then I got home and saw all the controversy. Not too sure what to do.
That’s been dealt with ages ago
@@vkyle91x I don’t mean the drop safety but all the “accidental discharges” happening?
@@connerp6369 I doubt they’re accidentally happening. Any case I’ve seen is bad holster or they user is doing something to the gun that they probably shouldn’t
@@vkyle91x is this one of your EDC firearms? If you don’t mind me asking how long have you owned them for?
@@connerp6369 I live in Canada we don’t have carry laws here. Owned then for years never had an issue
Do they both fit in the same holster?
PardenBoyz for the most part yes
Nice review! I cannot decide between the p320 or p226 legion
krenier if the money isn’t a factor I’d personally go with the legion. I’ve shot it sever times and it’s a fantastic gun to shoot.
vkyle91x the next question is the standard legion or the SAO hum 🤔
krenier that’s a tough call lol, personally I’d go standard but that’s me
@@vkyle91x Yeah that''s a tough call , i must try bolt and decide after
Either choice will not disappoint!!
What's up with these P320s misfiring in ones holster but the M17 doesn't
That was fixed a long time ago.
M17 is great,but I'll stick with my standard full size whichever way you take sig all the way is the best
I cringed when I found out the Canadian law takes almost 50% of its intended capacity. So dumb that people believe that capacity makes some magical difference in lethality if a criminal had to reload more. But at least you guys up north can still enjoy recreational shooting.
Yah Canada is a joke hopefully things change here
Yeah im gonna snap its really pissing me off having all these retarded magazines. Makes tem feel like a waste of money when it holds half of what it should.
And things are about to get way worse with dingle berry trudeau in charge.
Goodbye semi auto "black rifles"
And soon after hand guns im sure
Maybe i can get a wood finish cerakote on my colt le6920.
Then it will be less dangerous and fully suited for hunting game and not people...
Not much different in my shitty state of nj
I would assume SIG is using the same sized frame on both the M18 and M17, thus the shorter rail on the M17 but it reaches the end of barrel on the M18. Probably to maximize tooling / production costs.
Which has a better trigger
M17 does have a better trigger
What model holster is that ?
Roy Davila Safariland 7378 7TS ALS holster
I love finish wear. Gives it character. Also they didn’t use an extended grip module because (I think) the M17 module works with the M18 upper.
agree but sigs just have the absolute worst finish durability I've ever seen. You can scratch the nitron finish just setting the gun on a table. I have a glock and M&P about 20 years old that look brand new. My year old p320 looks like i drug i threw it down a mountain.
What make and model is your holster? Thanks.
Safariland 7378 ALS
Thank you!
So, I just ordered both the ALS and the SLS... just because I had to.
High class problems. Lol
$650 here in the U.S. for the M17
I don’t want a safety on my pistol unless its a single hammer action. And you can’t find a black no safety version. Plus with all the P320 custom possibilities its not really that appealing unless you want an military collector gun or a simple P320. Then again you can also customize it at a later time… So just having the fire control unit means the skies the limit…
The first difference everyone points out is the color. Really?
Scratches and holster ware don’t change the way it operates. It’s a tool it’s gonna get banged up. Sweet pistols you got
i got M17 week ago only 605.....why your more expensive?
xi chen because I live in Canada
Ops,ok ,sorry man NVM
So you're saying with the holster wear, it's going to look AWESOME when it's all worn in and used properly. Just enjoy a good group and a great gun that wears in classily. Sig makes good stuff.
Dang I just got my m17 it was 650
Rain Song73 I’m not sure what your asking
Rain Song73 it was in stock at my local academy sports
I paid $599
“Im a beretta guy but this gun is so much better”. Your a sig guy bro. Congratulations, you are no longer a fuck boy.
I instantly started cringing when I saw the M18 mag in the M17
Sooo. Hows it going with all the tyrannical laws now?
Very shit, but some US states also start banning "assault weapons ".
Can you use the mags from the p320 in the M17?
Jose Baray you sure can
@@vkyle91x thank you! Greatly appreciated.
You paid $890+ for that gun?? Lol I got it for $640 after taxes 😂
Dakota Clark I’m guessing you’re also not in Canada
vkyle91x no I’m in Florida, I guess the fact you’re in a different country might cost you a bit more
Dakota Clark that is correct, taxes, import fees and such
Just paid $689.00 for mine so after taxes $714.00 out the door.
Good price, where did you buy it ?
@@usphisics 9 Forward Local Gun store in Oxford N.C.
Since when the fuck did Canadians be allowed to purchase handguns?
I got mine for 720
The module is cut back for weight reduction.