Absolutely! Stuff like the Straight-Six Lada engine, the custom turbocharger made from a starter motor, the custom made wheels... they have so many projects which turned out successful by now!
Yes from my experience most are designed to travel downwards faster than coming back up, to prevent the bounce back/return effects, so passengers feel the drop and slow rise, instead of updown motion discomfort 😮
Having the compression damping the same as the extension is unusual for a road car. Drag race shocks for the rear are sometimes noted as "50/50" meaning they have the same damping in both directions.
I built some shocks for my Tamiya Super sabre RC buggy, they came with various pistons with different size and number of holes, some small, some larger. Smaller holes allow less oil to pass through making the shock stiffer. Larger holes make the oil pass through quicker making them softer. You can of course put thicker or thinner viscosity oil in the shocks to really fine tune them. So you could have a small hole in the piston with a thinner oil to give a softer ride than a thicker oil would give with the same piston.
You can also add a port to put some gas pressure in the shock... it keeps the oil from foaming. Usually uses Nitrogen, at not that high as pressure, like 80-100 psi or so.
I would fit some kind of one way valve on half the holes on the downward stroke of the shocks, so it will have a harder time returning back up, like a "reed valve" system. I'm not sure on the up-down ratio, but that would be a start to getting the movement up and down velocity not being equal.
I think that they are supposed to travel down much easier than coming up, as I noticed from the new trail bike shocks I fitted to the rear of my Special 650 road bike, my girlfriend was not happy, because she enjoyed the bouncing going through Brisbane city crossroads 😂 a good test is to push hard down on the front or back of the car, and release immediately so it should go back up and then down to stop at original position, but if it moves in more than 2strokes after release, then it needs shocks replaced.
@@Sekir80 faster recovery or faster drop. Depending on terrain type it helps extra. The military have gone one up and made the flowrate dynamic by electric coils.
I know you have those big magnets, would like to see if you could make an eddy current brake on the driveshaft and not use the regular friction brakes?
Install new (solid) pistons & a port on each end of the shocks, make 2 more new shocks for the front, then plumb a hydro system powered by the steering pump. (hydro = hydraulics = make the car jump!)
Is there any thing you guys can't do ,,,, lada with turbo and nitro yes please,,, stock 1500 cc lada engine ,you guys never stop to amaze me BRILLIANT FAE SCOTLAND UK 😢😮😅😅
There is this phenomenon called Lenz’s Law. Dropping a piece of aluminum through a copper tube, it doesn’t just fall, it slows down. Why not find a way to make that work for a shock absorber?
Try motorcycle front suspension legs those you can change the rubber seal and fluid and have inner springs some allowed to bleed the air thru some bleeder valves
👌😂👍Lmfao! This guy’s are always full of surprises! And they never disappoint! I’m loving it!🙏♥️👏👏👏😂👍keep’em coming! 😂👉I call them “old Russian man emu shocks!”
Fact. Lada's were cars made by the Soviet Union with the intend of every one of it's citizens owning one. Needless to say the plan failed, now they are relics turned into Frankenstein machines by garage 54.
I did a little research on shock absorbers (I wanted to know exactly what kind of oil they use, but couldn't get the information). In the process, I discovered "tapered chain shock absorbers." They seem to be so new, I could only find research papers about them, and I still don't know how they work, just that they use some sort of solid-state technology to dampen shocks. Well, anyway, if you decide to try the idea, I'd love to see how it works.
@eric_swiger Was the research paper you came across from Cornell University called "Experimental evidence of shock mitigation in a Hertzian tapered chain"? I was curious and had a look for your quoted "tapered chain shock absorbers" and that was the only thing I could find that could have been what you were talking about
I'd like to see you try your DYI shock absorbers with your massive lead weights in the tires. That would be really interesting. And see if it breaks the shocks or brakes mounts.
You guys should really take all your best projects and combine them to make a Garage 54 homemade car.
Now that would be something to watch.
Exactly what I thought watching this video.
Garage 54 could reach the moon in a Lada
Absolutely! Stuff like the Straight-Six Lada engine, the custom turbocharger made from a starter motor, the custom made wheels... they have so many projects which turned out successful by now!
Yeah, it would make a bad ass looking post apocalyptic car. @@DarkestVampire92
the "pistons" inside shock absorbers often have valves with "springs", regulating the speed or oil flow in both directions.
Yes from my experience most are designed to travel downwards faster than coming back up, to prevent the bounce back/return effects, so passengers feel the drop and slow rise, instead of updown motion discomfort 😮
@@simonallan9941 I have seen and worked inside a very known shock absorber manufacturers factory.
Great segment !
A future design, perhaps....Instead of holes for the by-pass, use an external tube with a valve, so the shock can be adjusted.
I wish I could download your experiment list off RUclips. Got a funny feeling we might be needing some of this knowledge in the near future.
Best to put an exterior oil exchange line in for custom shocks. Then you can put a valve of some kind to regulate the transfer rate.
Yup, a pair of them so they can separately tune up and down rates.
Add a fill & drain bolt hole to change fluid ?
Having the compression damping the same as the extension is unusual for a road car. Drag race shocks for the rear are sometimes noted as "50/50" meaning they have the same damping in both directions.
thanks for that knowledge nugget
And the front shocks are 90/10 allowing for quick extension, but slow compression.
@@cmsracing Never a good idea to let the front end rise up in a drag race.
Welcome to the 4 link world that pulls the nose down from the rear end.
You guys never DAMPEN my day it’s always a SHOCK to see what you have planned next
classic
I built some shocks for my Tamiya Super sabre RC buggy, they came with various pistons with different size and number of holes, some small, some larger.
Smaller holes allow less oil to pass through making the shock stiffer. Larger holes make the oil pass through quicker making them softer.
You can of course put thicker or thinner viscosity oil in the shocks to really fine tune them.
So you could have a small hole in the piston with a thinner oil to give a softer ride than a thicker oil would give with the same piston.
Or make bypass shocks.
Try making a DIY Citroen style hydro-pneumatic suspension.
You can also add a port to put some gas pressure in the shock... it keeps the oil from foaming. Usually uses Nitrogen, at not that high as pressure, like 80-100 psi or so.
This was one of the best projects so far.
I would fit some kind of one way valve on half the holes on the downward stroke of the shocks, so it will have a harder time returning back up, like a "reed valve" system. I'm not sure on the up-down ratio, but that would be a start to getting the movement up and down velocity not being equal.
You guys are awesome coming up with ideas that work and function . good job machining those parts well put together project kudos to you guys.
A complete success and your team of engineers a very good job the shock absorbers worked very well
Nice 1 guys!! Those work very well!!
Notification SQUAD!! Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥
😬 I’m cringing at that comment 😂
Good job on the four holes Sergei . They look perfect . :)
I think that they are supposed to travel down much easier than coming up, as I noticed from the new trail bike shocks I fitted to the rear of my Special 650 road bike, my girlfriend was not happy, because she enjoyed the bouncing going through Brisbane city crossroads 😂 a good test is to push hard down on the front or back of the car, and release immediately so it should go back up and then down to stop at original position, but if it moves in more than 2strokes after release, then it needs shocks replaced.
Great work guys, thanks for sharing.
a small reed valve with two differently sized holes would've made a one way valve to "increase" the flowrate in one direction of the piston travel.
And why is that desirable?
@@Sekir80 faster recovery or faster drop. Depending on terrain type it helps extra. The military have gone one up and made the flowrate dynamic by electric coils.
Instead of all the holes put a one way ball valve and one hole to see if it makes a big difference the compression will be hard but quick to rebound
Put a spring loaded oil pump check valve on one of the holes for tunability
When drilling the holes for fluid to pass through ..
Should have fitted carb jets to the holes... then have adjustable damping ❤❤❤
Can you see what rpm you can get a lada engine to hit? Lighten everything and double valve springs etc
should tap into the shock and make a small adjustable ballast capsule so you dont need to keep drilling holes .
I would recommend starting from scratch as opposed to cutting into a shock/strut that's quite likely gas-charged. Just safer that way... 💥💥
I know you have those big magnets, would like to see if you could make an eddy current brake on the driveshaft and not use the regular friction brakes?
This is how rc cars have their shocks also. Perfect
Install new (solid) pistons & a port on each end of the shocks, make 2 more new shocks for the front, then plumb a hydro system powered by the steering pump.
(hydro = hydraulics = make the car jump!)
stabilizer links would help a lot for the whole body rocking
You guys sure are creative.
I thought the roads in my town was bad, wow.
0:38 😂 the taillights fell off
Can you guys please try and make your own windshield wipers
great show and really intelligent mechanics But AWSOM Music too :-)
Well done, very interesting!!
what about adding some sort of rebound spring to the inside or create coil over set up...
Very well done.
Literally shook the tail light out!!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey G54 could you try using refined coconut oil as engine oil ? I heard some good reviews about it and would like to see how it really is.
Guys make a bulletproof ,home-made armored lada it should be a really interesting experiment :D
Is there any thing you guys can't do ,,,, lada with turbo and nitro yes please,,, stock 1500 cc lada engine ,you guys never stop to amaze me BRILLIANT FAE SCOTLAND UK 😢😮😅😅
NO crazy foaming ? Curious, was that vegetable oil? Do this with custom adjustable valves Air cylinders now !!
What about a preload adjustable shock those look more like they are positioned for stabilizer shocks.....and what about gas vs oil...
Great work 😍😍😍
There is this phenomenon called Lenz’s Law.
Dropping a piece of aluminum through a copper tube, it doesn’t just fall, it slows down.
Why not find a way to make that work for a shock absorber?
Actually I learn a lot about shock obsorber, great job guys 🤌
good music overlays
Fill them with a mix of water and cornstarch
Solid!
Top KEK!
Peace be with you.
Heil KeK!
@@carwashadamcooper1538 KEK!
Since doing hydraulic shocks what about trying making air shocks
Try motorcycle front suspension legs those you can change the rubber seal and fluid and have inner springs some allowed to bleed the air thru some bleeder valves
Next time should try make own air bag/shock system 😮
I think a very interesting thing it will be to make a inline 7 engine by yourself
A threaded refillable shock maybe interesting
You should put a very large water, cooled, motorcycle engine in a Lada. Yamaha R1 engine
👌😂👍Lmfao! This guy’s are always full of surprises! And they never disappoint! I’m loving it!🙏♥️👏👏👏😂👍keep’em coming! 😂👉I call them “old Russian man emu shocks!”
Fact. Lada's were cars made by the Soviet Union with the intend of every one of it's citizens owning one. Needless to say the plan failed, now they are relics turned into Frankenstein machines by garage 54.
How soon can we purchase Garage54 shocks as Merch?
Well that's one way to keep us in suspense........ :P
I did a little research on shock absorbers (I wanted to know exactly what kind of oil they use, but couldn't get the information). In the process, I discovered "tapered chain shock absorbers." They seem to be so new, I could only find research papers about them, and I still don't know how they work, just that they use some sort of solid-state technology to dampen shocks. Well, anyway, if you decide to try the idea, I'd love to see how it works.
My guess would be probably a generic hydraulic oil of some kind. (As It would have to be very heat resistant and probably a lower viscosity.)
@eric_swiger Was the research paper you came across from Cornell University called "Experimental evidence of shock mitigation in a Hertzian tapered chain"?
I was curious and had a look for your quoted "tapered chain shock absorbers" and that was the only thing I could find that could have been what you were talking about
Good idea to make 4 shocks and try again not just 2
why panhard rod when you can staggerred 4 link trailing arm to live axle?
I'd like to see you try your DYI shock absorbers with your massive lead weights in the tires. That would be really interesting. And see if it breaks the shocks or brakes mounts.
I think the car would be very shaken up from the experience. Probably would refuse to run after that.
Now you made it
Make the shocks adjustable via while driving like the expensive cars got.
Now make a Lada race car, with custom brakes, shocks, wheels, everything you can
You know how you made your own game for phone.
You should make a PC version
Just grab some KYB shocks they'll outlast most things you put them on..they are high, but badass...
I wondered if the oil would get hot or overheat during all the compression. I never really though how a shock worked.
Yes any shock can be overheated
Can you use gallium on an aluminum engine block?
watched the video made me wonder if shocks could be repaired and apparently some can
you want to face and polish the ID of that pipe... LOL, thats where 1/2 your friction is right?
now i wanna build my own
now make DIY military shocks - ferrofluid xd
outstanding!
Improve everything on a Lada by doing all the work and making all the parts yourselves. No bought in parts.
Now try different types of oil, or water, or mango thick juice? 😉
Or smirnoff 😇
You can try put lithium grease in it
it seems fun to join garage 54
Can you make gas shock absorbers?
Tesla powered Lada??? Would be a cool idea?
Now we need the introduction of "BMI" shock absorbers!
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Instead of drilling the small holes straight down the piston, try drilling them at and angle instead……don’t ask me at what degree 😅
impressive results - 107%
tractor does not have shocks or springs, and it drives just fine
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They travel at much lower speed 😅
really? :) they have mass inertia stability bonus compared to a light weight Lada@@lamarstunts1846
easily up to 60kmh/h and more, and literally fly on the field@@lamarstunts1846
Hi guys yourl should make coilovers
You are very good RUclipsrs, I love your videos, can I get a comment heart?❤
Make your own air bag suspension 😅
Your guys do extremely well. Now build a car or a truck 🚚 🛻 🤔 ❤peace and long life everyone. 😊🎉🎉🎉🎉At Garage 54.
LMAO your roads look just like here in pennsylvania USA
Try diy gas filled shock absorber
Make the worlds tallest drivable car
Combine all your good projects that where a successful success and build 1 car..
Make pneumatic brakes for a lada
Here I am changing shim stacks like an idiot. I could just make my own dampers
You should build lowrider
I want u to build a bike but with a lifan110cc on it😊
I would add 3% to that for 111% 😁
No doubt you can make own socks its just mather how long they last....
so monotube?