John McWhorter on "Black Fragility" | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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    Linguistics professor and "Nine Nasty Words" author John McWhorter joins Bill Maher for a common-sense conversation about race.
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  • @yousefayub8747
    @yousefayub8747 3 года назад +611

    Black diversity. As a black man, I've been waiting for someone to say that to an audience for a long time.

    • @MsDudette21
      @MsDudette21 3 года назад +17

      Same! Good god people are so stupid these days. I'm glad there is someone making sense

    • @chinajoe272
      @chinajoe272 3 года назад +31

      Its very minority group. 85% are monolithic non free thinking people who vote religiously for Democrats who've oppressed them for 200 years

    • @creativewriter3887
      @creativewriter3887 3 года назад +8

      @@chinajoe272 As opposed to the Republicans who have consistently voted AGAINST any policy that is not White, Elitist and Racist. Even now, they're voting more to keep more money in their pockets and oppose anything that would create wage and civil equality--- which is WHY they hate Critical Race Theory and support the most racist and vile components of society. For a "pro life" party they sure as hell do EVERYTHING to ensure poverty, war, subjugation, voter suppression and means to prevent vaccination of minorities and such; all while playing the victim! I mean equating wearing a mask to wearing the Star of David in Nazi germany. WTF. Meanwhile 600,000 people have DIED from Covid. OH but this isn't oppression and death?

    • @RubyTwilite
      @RubyTwilite 3 года назад +11

      Unfortunately you have entitled condescending politicians saying "If you don't know who to vote for, me or Trump then you ain't black!" where was the outrage over that? Because outrage has become an emotional shakedown- give us what we want or we'll burn cities down, a tool to be used by politicians which is why Que Mala and celebrities were bailing out protesters. The reality is they didn't give a damn about all the black and immigrant owned businesses that were destroyed or and people who were killed. When will people see this and wake up to the fact that they are being used.

    • @RubyTwilite
      @RubyTwilite 3 года назад +8

      @Curiouser11 I find the GOP has been asleep and Dems have been infiltrated by extremists who now have the loudest voices. There is no dialogue, no discussion. No dissent permitted. Remember when Diane Feinstein shook hands with Lindsey Graham and said its was very nice negotiating? The left called for her to retire because how dare she be civil. That is very sad. I wasn't happy with Trump's tweets but I'm especially not happy with the push toward Socialism. I have friends from eastern europe who are freaking out because they recognize the rhetoric and know where it leads. I don't see civility returning because incivility has been profitable- look at how much money BLM has raised.

  • @JohnSmith-tk7nt
    @JohnSmith-tk7nt 3 года назад +2343

    This is a criminally short interview from a guy who could teach bills audience alot

    • @danpeak
      @danpeak 3 года назад +54

      The conversation went on for another 10 mins on tv.

    • @LucasOfBayPark
      @LucasOfBayPark 3 года назад +33

      Here's the link to the full show/interview, picking up where this one left off: ruclips.net/video/SgMfq223a0E/видео.html

    • @teflongoon
      @teflongoon 3 года назад +30

      The scope of whom he could teach extends faaaaaaar beyond Bill's audience.

    • @stephenmel8630
      @stephenmel8630 3 года назад +38

      @4 Lights There Are , what do you mean by "a single better idea"? His entire point was that Black America is not a homogeneous group of victims, yet this book portrays them as such. There is a lot to unpack there. Our current president stated "Unlike the African American community, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly diverse attitudes about different things." There is a huge portion of the country that portrays black folks as all the same - including the author of White Fragility.

    • @JerBlackmer
      @JerBlackmer 3 года назад +23

      @4 Lights There Are the better idea is to tell people to quit being babies....and condescending to people of color...... that was pretty obvious

  • @mrt094
    @mrt094 3 года назад +36

    THANK YOU. As a black person I feel the exact same way but when I look at the reactions and beliefs of my peers it felt like I was going crazy.

  • @SoulCityAM
    @SoulCityAM 3 года назад +238

    Finally someone authentic and real on national television. I hope he gets more recognition.

    • @oceania2385
      @oceania2385 3 года назад +6

      McWhorter and Glenn Loury have a regular show on "blogging heads TV" on youtube. They're both brilliant have amazing insight.

    • @Based_Proletariat
      @Based_Proletariat 3 года назад +3

      “Brilliant” mean he says what
      appeals to your white fragility.
      Truth hurts.

    • @lutherblissett8780
      @lutherblissett8780 3 года назад +7

      @@Based_Proletariat - you clowns are hilarious.

    • @PoldarkGodzilla
      @PoldarkGodzilla 3 года назад +1

      @@Based_Proletariat zzzz

    • @gmpm
      @gmpm 2 года назад +1

      Recognition, hey… recognition for what?

  • @Epiousios18
    @Epiousios18 3 года назад +178

    He's 55? He looks great, good for him. Great discussion as well.

    • @adaminfinity1733
      @adaminfinity1733 3 года назад +12

      Black don't crack (black people age slowly because of more melanin)

    • @brasshouse-og
      @brasshouse-og 3 года назад +2

      Pretty sure I will look like a sack of potatoes at 55. He does look great.

    • @jimmerskrimmerfriddet3246
      @jimmerskrimmerfriddet3246 3 года назад +3

      “Shade don’t fade”

    • @germanrud9904
      @germanrud9904 3 года назад +2

      @@adaminfinity1733 pretty sure everyone ages just about the same bro.. external appearance is different and I've seen people of all races tread both ends of the looks spectrum

    • @adaminfinity1733
      @adaminfinity1733 3 года назад +2

      @@germanrud9904 yes but the more melanin someone has generally means that their skin ages slowly. This is because darker skin has natural SPF. I think dark skinned black people have a natural SPF of about 30.

  • @ericthegreat7125
    @ericthegreat7125 3 года назад +111

    John and Glenn Loury are voices of reason in a crazy time.

  • @DGDfan13
    @DGDfan13 3 года назад +1408

    The fact that people still take anything on Twitter seriously is mind blowing.
    Why tf are we letting TWITTER dictate a highly nuanced situation? Weird.

    • @tommyanomaly6193
      @tommyanomaly6193 3 года назад +4

      @@patrickd1989 Yes!

    • @ashleysmith7238
      @ashleysmith7238 3 года назад +8

      True for comments in RUclips as well lol

    • @cassiecat7038
      @cassiecat7038 3 года назад +15

      Unfortunately the media takes it seriously 😒 I really don’t get why.

    • @tommyanomaly6193
      @tommyanomaly6193 3 года назад +39

      @@cassiecat7038 Because sensationalism sells and the media is a business.

    • @DGDfan13
      @DGDfan13 3 года назад +6

      @@tommyanomaly6193 Truers. Which is sad, we NEED the media to investigate as well as inform. Unfortunate that money corrupts all

  • @maxhess3151
    @maxhess3151 3 года назад +333

    "Doing the work" is the one phrase that pisses me off the most. It's a completely empty phrase.

    • @jacques.cousteau
      @jacques.cousteau 3 года назад +29

      Sound cultish too, like something out of the Scientology playbook

    • @Nashawkeye
      @Nashawkeye 3 года назад +11

      A very Kamala thing to say.

    • @Batham55
      @Batham55 3 года назад +23

      It's because when they say I'm "doing the work" it really means "I want to APPEAR to be doing the work so please treat me like one of the 'good ones'"

    • @joshhoffman5233
      @joshhoffman5233 3 года назад +19

      “My truth” is another one I can’t stand. I get what some people mean, but I’ve also seen it abused by a genuine psychopath so I can’t stand hearing it. Scarred. But it got me thinking wtf does that mean. There’s truth, there’s perspectives, valid perspectives, there’s bullshit, there are multiple truths. When did a perspective have to become “my truth?” I guess it can’t be “a truth” because that’d be claiming real knowledge. If you want it to be a way but not amenable to rationality it has to be “mine” perhaps.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 3 года назад +1

      I don’t subscribe to that slogan, but I’m pretty sure it’s a common sense slogan.

  • @Ho11is2Ho11ywood
    @Ho11is2Ho11ywood 3 года назад +15

    I, like many, would love to hear a longer interview but this can all be summed up into one sentence. "Black people are not a monolith."

    • @glimmrgirl
      @glimmrgirl 3 года назад +1

      Have you heard of ‘the Glenn show’ at bloggingheads tv, here on RUclips? John and Glenn have been discussing this topic for almost a decade. It’s always a pleasure to listen to them both. I highly recommend it.

  • @jamesr3505
    @jamesr3505 3 года назад +143

    Please put the whole vid up. I know it’s catchy to end on the applause line, but this was an amazing interview that needs to be circulated publicly.

    • @direwolf6234
      @direwolf6234 3 года назад +2

      too bad he wasn't able to talk about the book...maher's an idiot sometimes

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 3 года назад

      Lmao. Nothing amazing about this interview, incel.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 3 года назад

      Bunch of strawman arguments and shallow concepts.

    • @jamesr3505
      @jamesr3505 3 года назад +23

      @@blackout07blue Please, say literally anything with relevant content. For instance, mention a specific strawman argument. Anything other than the language of anger and ignorance.

    • @robd593
      @robd593 3 года назад +17

      @@jamesr3505 don’t bother, he can’t. He’s the exact type of victim they’re referring to.

  • @robr.5044
    @robr.5044 2 года назад +8

    It is good to know that many people are starting to see through this idea and others of its kind.

  • @streamtec88
    @streamtec88 3 года назад +137

    I’ve been listening to his podcast “Lexicon Valley” for almost 4 years now. Highly recommend!

    • @dg7815
      @dg7815 3 года назад +6

      Woah, my clone beat me here by less than a minute.

    • @YourLocalCopiumDealer
      @YourLocalCopiumDealer 3 года назад +10

      His conversations with Glenn Loury at bloggingheads is amazing too.

    • @RUTHLESSambition5
      @RUTHLESSambition5 3 года назад +2

      Just anothet Uncle Tim😂😂 Being used by whites to go at your own people.. Oldest trick in the book. Fox uses Candace,Leo like clock work

    • @YourLocalCopiumDealer
      @YourLocalCopiumDealer 3 года назад +13

      @@RUTHLESSambition5 How dare he think for himself. Doesn't he know that black intellectuals aren't allowed to do that? Buddy, you are the problem.

    • @tabbiwytch1313
      @tabbiwytch1313 3 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing that - certainly would love to listen to more of what he has to say.

  • @johndoh5316
    @johndoh5316 3 года назад +7

    Mr. McWhorter has been awesome for years. I remember him from CSPAN.

  • @markkerr204
    @markkerr204 Год назад +3

    I can't believe I am just finding out about McWhorter now. I feel the exact same way as Bill does when it comes to John. He's a hero whether he realizes it or not. Not because he's black, but because he's willing to speak his mind and reflect deeply on complicated topics. Even if it makes him unpopular.

  • @martinhodell8465
    @martinhodell8465 3 года назад +76

    I'm glad he mentioned Coleman Hughes- who got an unfair hearing on Bill's show, upstaged by a more charismatic, more conventional thinking guy.

    • @mohammedrashid8250
      @mohammedrashid8250 3 года назад +12

      Really? Because Coleman came off much better from what I've seen.

    • @martinhodell8465
      @martinhodell8465 3 года назад +11

      @@mohammedrashid8250 watch the episode. Coleman did his thing- smart, fair, unassuming-- but the crowd was against him and the other guest steamrolled him (quite unfairly, but that's mob rule). No one wins over Bill's audience with logic--that isn't the game.

    • @mohammedrashid8250
      @mohammedrashid8250 3 года назад +11

      @@martinhodell8465 I mean yeah Bill's audience didn't like him, but he clearly came off better to objective people. Just look at the comments.

    • @martinhodell8465
      @martinhodell8465 3 года назад +6

      @@mohammedrashid8250 You're right-- but I wish Bill would've given Coleman a more fair shake. They'd probably agree on 95% of things. But the way it went down was disrespectful. Bakari Sellers was arrogant and tried to steamroll Coleman.

    • @TerrorrLA
      @TerrorrLA 3 года назад +6

      Nah, Coleman Hughes killed it. It's thanks to that episode I ended up following Coleman Hughes.

  • @itsanit123
    @itsanit123 3 года назад +72

    I've liked him for years. I'm mixed race and this is the opinion of allot of black people. This is what my father and my grandfather who grew up during Jim Crow thought like.

    • @carmenchantilly9049
      @carmenchantilly9049 3 года назад +4

      Sadly good men like your father are the ones we don’t hear from enough. It sad that what is represented is the super stars in music and sports, gang/rapper hootchie momma inarticulate lot. It kills me that we don’t give voice to the amazing intelligent educated change makers, I’m mean can we get some airtime and respect for them!

    • @MrLGonzalez12
      @MrLGonzalez12 3 года назад +1

      Your father believed that he wasn’t oppressed and that he has a psychological disorder that causes him to pretend like a victim? Lol them white suprematists did a number on your grandfather lol

    • @christerry1773
      @christerry1773 3 года назад +1

      In your opinion whats the percentage ratio in the black community that lean more towards Johns ideology vs the opposite?

    • @MrLGonzalez12
      @MrLGonzalez12 3 года назад +1

      @@christerry1773 lmaoooo in my personal experience it’s 99% side with the real version of history that minorities have been systemically targeted for 500 years. But I know there’s a handful of black folks that have been brainwashed into believing white supremacist history like this. So I’d say it’s about 90/10

    • @lordsolar4323
      @lordsolar4323 3 года назад +1

      did you need to add mixed race..yeah you did you don’t understand john at all

  • @xelamercedes
    @xelamercedes 3 года назад +10

    ??? Fascinating. It's as though McWhorter and I read different books. Not every line of "White Fragility" resonated for me but as a Black woman over 60 who has personally experienced or witnessed most of what DiAngelo describes, there was definitely enough in the book to merit keeping it on my bookshelf. IMO it offers more than mere balance for a wobbly table.

    • @carlpolen7437
      @carlpolen7437 2 года назад +1

      Key word: "witnessed" Past tense. And yet the book was written in the last several years.

    • @toms8393
      @toms8393 2 года назад

      Victimhood resonates with some people. For others not so much.

  • @bigdaddyfilmmaker
    @bigdaddyfilmmaker 2 года назад +2

    Amen Brother.

  • @frankenbeans6930
    @frankenbeans6930 3 года назад +23

    First, I'm surprised bill even had mcwhorter on. Second, I'm surprised there was so much applause. Good job John 👍

    • @johnnyyork3796
      @johnnyyork3796 3 года назад +9

      Yea the audience clapping was full of shit though, they would be clapping for Robin DeAngelo saying the exact opposite if she were sitting there.

    • @bobshenix
      @bobshenix 3 года назад

      Gives me hope, but Johnny York is right...

    • @petermathis435
      @petermathis435 3 года назад +1

      Why are you surprised? Bill Maher is anti political correctness and silly religions whether they exist on the bible belt right or the woke left.

    • @johnnyyork3796
      @johnnyyork3796 3 года назад +1

      @@petermathis435 bill says he is yet he has people on and most of his panel believes that shit. He likes to throw an occasional bone to the other side and act like he is a truth teller for both sides.
      He and his audience is agreeing with what john is saying, but as soon as he has anyone else on that says the opposite, his trained seals clap and agree.

    • @frankenbeans6930
      @frankenbeans6930 3 года назад

      @@petermathis435 I'm surprised because Bill spends so much time arguing the other side of the issues with his usual panels of woke idiots. If he truly admires John and his ideas he needs to be braver and more honest with his guests and audience.

  • @GiratinaofFury
    @GiratinaofFury 3 года назад +5

    People playing the victim trivialises those who have genuinely suffered. Being a victim shouldn't be weaponised. All it does it disenfranchise those who once had sympathy towards you.
    Fight oppression, but don't become the oppressor.

  • @hithere748
    @hithere748 3 года назад +79

    That one guy is right, people in general do like to be a victim.

    • @ashanyc9146
      @ashanyc9146 3 года назад +10

      Yup. Trump is victim too. The election was stolen from him.

    • @hithere748
      @hithere748 3 года назад +1

      Trump actually is a victim tho lol.

    • @ceelo826
      @ceelo826 3 года назад +23

      @@hithere748 Only a victim of his own stupidity

    • @Fahrenheit4051
      @Fahrenheit4051 3 года назад +5

      Trump is a victim of both his own stupidity and the stupidity of the media. Not only was he extremely divisive and inflammatory (for example, downplaying COVID in public while privately being very concerned), he also had a very tenuous grip on reality - e.g. staring at the Sun (politically insignificant but telling), egging on the (grossly overblown) violence at the capitol while denouncing the (underreported) BLM violence, and suggesting the injection of disinfectant into the bloodstream as a treatment against COVID.
      At the same time, the media also launched a slew of unfair attacks, like pretending as if he's never denounced white supremacy and acting as if he's the most racist president ever while sweeping under the rug the fact that he got the largest minority support of any Republican presidential candidate in decades. He could do no right in their eyes because that would give him a victory. Our public discourse has become quite deranged, and we need more John McWhorters, Glen Lourys, Bret and Eric Weinsteins, John Stossels, Benjamin Boyces, James Lindsays, David Freiheits, and Coleman Hughes to set the record straight and debate in good faith.

    • @gamesman0118
      @gamesman0118 3 года назад +6

      Yes all those people who followed Trump believed they were victims. They saw others (read people not like them) as "takers". Because if you are a victim it excuses your personal failure. You aren't responsible for how your life isn't what you wanted it to be. I didn't go to college because of quotas not because I spent more time partying then studying. I didn't get the promotion because affirmative action not because I slacked off and did the bare minimum.

  • @honestjohn6418
    @honestjohn6418 3 года назад +3

    I love John McWhorter and Glenn Loury. Two of the best people in the conversation

  • @jschapp77
    @jschapp77 Год назад

    Stossel McWhorter full interview is another great introduction to Mr. McWhorter. That’s where I first heard of him. Big fan of both.

  • @lanetaglio
    @lanetaglio 2 года назад

    Refreshing,....and brilliantly communicated.

  • @neildennis7294
    @neildennis7294 2 года назад +3

    Discovered Michael McWhorter as a regular guest on Penn and Teller’s BS over a decade ago, and I still got mad respect for how calmly he approaches pointing out things we are “supposed” to be bothered by as the BS it is.

  • @MyishaJB
    @MyishaJB 3 года назад

    Preeeeech, Uncle Doc John!!!✊🏾🎉🙋🏾‍♀️🤟🏾🥳🥳🥳🥳

  • @UltraPoseidon
    @UltraPoseidon 3 года назад +13

    I really wanna see McWhorter debate someone like Te-Nashi Coates. I think that dialogue like that would be very healthy.

    • @empty_cognizance2234
      @empty_cognizance2234 3 года назад +3

      They actually talked for nearly an hour about 3 and a half years ago on the bloggingheads channel. Just search "Coates McWhorter" and it'll probably be in the first few. The vid quality's slightly rough though.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 3 года назад +2

      @@empty_cognizance2234 McWorter looked like an idiot when he did.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 3 года назад +1

      McWorter is just a bunch of strawman arguments.

  • @megg.6651
    @megg.6651 3 года назад +5

    THANK YOU for having John McWhorter on - MORE, PLEASE! (How about having on COLEMAN HUGHES?)

    • @brett5237
      @brett5237 3 года назад

      He was on at least once as a guest: ruclips.net/video/BmGmIY8znf4/видео.html

  • @ludvigeh
    @ludvigeh 3 года назад +8

    He’s so well-spoken and eloquent without even breaking a sweat. Absolute star.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 3 года назад +2

      Lmao. Is that impressive in your country?

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 3 года назад +1

      This was all strawman arguments.

    • @cherryorchard5600
      @cherryorchard5600 3 года назад +1

      In other words “he’s an asset to his race, he’s not like the typical black” wow

  • @hotstepper1649
    @hotstepper1649 3 года назад +3

    I love John! Discovered him a long time ago during the Jussie Smollett saga, go read his piece on that! It’s a laugh riot and super honest.

  • @cyclist68
    @cyclist68 3 года назад +1

    "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes an act of rebellion."

  • @JohnHawkins-he7mg
    @JohnHawkins-he7mg 3 года назад +7

    "It should be used to keep tables from wobbling, that is the only use for that book." A perfect summation of "White Fragility."👍😂

  • @rhythmdroid
    @rhythmdroid 3 года назад +2

    Gloriously nails Di Angelo and Kendi in less than 4 minutes. I'm amazed Maher hasn't been cancelled yet for having McWhorter spew such fiery truth on national television.

  • @DeusEx.Machina
    @DeusEx.Machina 3 года назад +30

    I know this is something lame fans say, but I seriously never clicked on a video so fast in my life. I have never heard of this man, but as soon as I read the title, I knew what he was going to talk about and as a black person, I have been waiting for a very long time for someone in my community to clarify that we are not garden flowers and that everyone is racist or wrong to say that a black person did something wrong.

    • @alementary4065
      @alementary4065 3 года назад +6

      Most reasonable people understand this. Rational voices are getting drowned out. John McWhorter, Coleman Hughes, Glenn Loury, Thomas Sowell, Jericho Green, Anthony Brian Logan, Candace Owens, Brandon Tatum, Aba & Preach...there are some great black voices out there that don't get the attention mental midgets like Ta-Nehisi Coates, Ibram X. Kendi, Michael E. Dyson, Nikole Hannah Jones, etc. get. Difference is, the ones I named are actually smart, not word salad processors.

    • @YourLocalCopiumDealer
      @YourLocalCopiumDealer 3 года назад +4

      If you liked this you should listen to his conversations with Glenn Loury at bloggingheads. Highly recommend it.

    • @jacobfromallstate4963
      @jacobfromallstate4963 3 года назад +1

      Fucking refreshing

    • @jacobfromallstate4963
      @jacobfromallstate4963 3 года назад +1

      @@alementary4065 love Aba and Preach

    • @alementary4065
      @alementary4065 3 года назад +1

      @Skippy Skipperson you can't have an honest discussion on race when only one race can be discussed.

  • @aliyahabrahams
    @aliyahabrahams 3 года назад +18

    I love this.

  • @EbluestarE
    @EbluestarE 3 года назад +2

    John is my hero too. He puts into words, perfectly, how I feel about this social dilemma. Read his book Losing The Race.

  • @DavidJ-iz8wl
    @DavidJ-iz8wl 3 года назад

    Excellent. Great role model for everyone, not just black Americans

  • @tamalawright7460
    @tamalawright7460 Год назад

    Bamm! John McWhorter NEVER disappoints me!

  • @kenwahler3277
    @kenwahler3277 3 года назад +7

    Finally you invite someone good

    • @direwolf6234
      @direwolf6234 3 года назад

      and then maher ignores the book completely

  • @LoxsannB
    @LoxsannB 2 года назад +1

    I just found some one I relate too 199%
    I’m also an obsessive black failed lawyer who needs things to make sense. & I fully agree

  • @r3jk8
    @r3jk8 3 года назад

    John McWhorter is astoundingly smart!!! Wow!!!

  • @tomhofmeister3246
    @tomhofmeister3246 3 года назад

    As always well spoken good sir

  • @user-sd5vh1mx5x
    @user-sd5vh1mx5x 3 года назад

    I once had a hard on for Noam Chomsky, which led me to The Great Courses: Understanding Linguistics: The Science of Language taught by John McWhorter. What an utter joy 🤩 🥲he has been since then. His insight into language and his common sense is truly refreshing! 🥰❤️luv him!

  • @JXY2019
    @JXY2019 3 года назад +6

    John McWhorter is fantastic. I actually discovered his linguistics work before I realized the valuable contribution he was making to or national dialogue on racial issues.

  • @briantrenchard8700
    @briantrenchard8700 3 года назад +1

    Excellent !

  • @chefboiardeeznutz9881
    @chefboiardeeznutz9881 3 года назад

    Never hear of this guy before. Glad I found this video.

  • @jacobzaranyika9334
    @jacobzaranyika9334 3 года назад

    Thank you 🙏 for your support Prof John. I am a HUGE fan.

  • @fdg92
    @fdg92 3 года назад

    Omgggggg!!! Been following McWhorter for what seems like forever and finally he got the spotlight he deserves! I love this guy 😍🤩

  • @alephnull7410
    @alephnull7410 3 года назад

    John McWhorter is the absolute f’n man of contemporary times.

  • @alunjones3860
    @alunjones3860 2 года назад +1

    I haven't read white fragility from cover to cover, but have probably read/heard most of it on social media. I agree it should be called black fragility.

  • @mr.stranger4951
    @mr.stranger4951 Год назад

    I think it's a great book and very beneficial.

  • @frausteiner8615
    @frausteiner8615 3 года назад +4

    Most black people definitely do feel this way. McWhorter and Maher just have to deny it to seem not racist.

    • @wolf7el356
      @wolf7el356 3 года назад +5

      Good to know that you're in communication with most Black people, must be pretty busy having to talk to so many of them all the time.

    • @BranDawg81
      @BranDawg81 3 года назад +1

      @@wolf7el356 and exhausting... The language barrier is crazy tough.

    • @kadourimdou43
      @kadourimdou43 3 года назад

      If you disagree you’re racist? 🤪

    • @frausteiner8615
      @frausteiner8615 3 года назад

      @@wolf7el356 Do black people not overwhelmingly support politicians who promote the "white privilege'" narrative?

    • @wolf7el356
      @wolf7el356 3 года назад

      @@frausteiner8615 You speak to most of them so you tell me?

  • @derrickjac
    @derrickjac 3 года назад

    I'm a proud McWhorter and Loury fan. The common sense and rejection of hyperliberal racial condescension is refreshing to say the least.
    "I'm doing the work" in a shrill voice had me weak!

  • @workingguy84
    @workingguy84 3 года назад

    I have just become aware of the man. I’m very impressed with both his honesty and his courage.

  • @stelladavis7832
    @stelladavis7832 3 года назад

    This, more of this!!

  • @antondelacruz9362
    @antondelacruz9362 2 года назад +1

    Basically what carlton said to the frat boys in fresh prince.

  • @Emk315
    @Emk315 3 года назад

    Many of us feel they way you feel Sir.

  • @ederrell6032
    @ederrell6032 3 года назад +7

    Alot of us feel that way we're just not on social media crying

  • @quinbagwell7515
    @quinbagwell7515 2 года назад

    McWhorter is an honest man, whom we should all listen to.

  • @lizp5004
    @lizp5004 3 года назад +6

    If y'all like this, you should watch/listen to his wkly podcast w/Glenn Loury. It's on bloggingheads. Ok çTV, but they also post clips &/or the full ep. on RUclips. Definitely would recommend: 10/10👌🏼

  • @mikeviall811
    @mikeviall811 3 года назад

    I disagree with much of what Maher says but I subscribed based on this interview. McWhorter is incredibly impressive.

  • @0BIWANCANNOLI
    @0BIWANCANNOLI 3 года назад +9

    2:19 😭😭😭

  • @kevinhartwig476
    @kevinhartwig476 3 года назад

    John is phenomenal and extremely intelligent. Listen to most podcasts that he is part of. Such a voice of reason, rational, and reality

  • @StephenIC
    @StephenIC 3 года назад +1

    How many in Bills audience read White Fragility and thought they were "educating themselves" lmao

  • @rhythmdroid
    @rhythmdroid 3 года назад +1

    Audience claps at his (spot on correct) comment about the book "White Fragility". If he said that behind a screen so the audience couldn't see his skin color, they'd assume he's white, proceed to be mortified and stunned and not know what to do.

  • @jimrose71
    @jimrose71 3 года назад

    food for thought. good food too

  • @pcbacklash_3261
    @pcbacklash_3261 2 года назад

    I love listening to John speak -- not just because he's obviously smart and articulate, but because he's 100% RIGHT!

  • @karlrussell7398
    @karlrussell7398 3 года назад

    In a 2001 article, McWhorter wrote that black attitudes, rather than white racism, were what held black people back

  • @jongurr2811
    @jongurr2811 2 года назад

    The seals clapping amazing

  • @estebanmolina6456
    @estebanmolina6456 3 года назад +5

    I hate how sheepish crowds are. These same people would clap for the “White Fragility” author if she was the very next guest.

    • @jenisejackson5408
      @jenisejackson5408 3 года назад +1

      Bill Maher would never have D'Angelo on his show.

    • @TheMack671
      @TheMack671 3 года назад

      I used to think only the Fox News viewers were reprogrammable meatbags. I guess Bill has them too.

    • @estebanmolina6456
      @estebanmolina6456 3 года назад

      @@jenisejackson5408 uhhhm, yes he would.

    • @estebanmolina6456
      @estebanmolina6456 3 года назад +1

      @@TheMack671 lol. A large percentage of all news viewers, no matter what station, left or right, are incredibly programmable. That’s why every news station does it.
      If you think it’s just Fox and not CNN and MSNBC too, then you need to wake up

  • @jonbilgutay2
    @jonbilgutay2 Год назад

    It sort of heartens me to see people call out propaganda that 'technically' supports them. I loved hearing Morgan Freeman saying he doesn't want a black history month, and videos of black people calling out the new Proud Family's 'slaves built this country'

  • @brittneyrichmond6724
    @brittneyrichmond6724 3 года назад

    Love him!!

  • @suesmith2183
    @suesmith2183 3 года назад

    Everybody is one of Maher's heroes, except when they're not!!

  • @weserphillip
    @weserphillip 3 года назад

    Good stuff

  • @deenzmartin6695
    @deenzmartin6695 3 года назад +1

    i didn't really understand the "failed lawyer" reference.

  • @lIlIllIIII
    @lIlIllIIII 3 года назад

    "I'm doing the work!"

  • @crazywacfunkys1xte6na84
    @crazywacfunkys1xte6na84 3 года назад

    Thomas sowell answers all this in detail people need to read up on him

  • @mickieshaw3801
    @mickieshaw3801 3 года назад

    Interesting segment.

  • @ImBABYJANEHUDSON
    @ImBABYJANEHUDSON 2 года назад

    John McWhorter is so fucking cool...love his podcast!

  • @earlycuyler9760
    @earlycuyler9760 Год назад

    Finally a black american man with a sense of personal responsibility, humimility, and a backbone... also hes dead on, year after year of BLM, twitter, ect the rest of the world looks at the black community as weak and incompetent. Bravo to this gentleman

  • @monsterchimp1669
    @monsterchimp1669 2 года назад

    I once told a black coworker about a conversation I had with a white woman who was trying to convince me black people can't be racist because racism is "power plus privelege". He was visibly upset, and I would have loved to see that woman explain to this man that he's a child, incapable of sin.

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 Год назад

      but power depends on the situation. In current times, in many situations, people who are black can be more powerful, esp by social rules (e.g. in conversation light skin is assumed to be racist, dark not), or physical numbers of people; or bc they could be wealthy. Power depends on situation, so the strict racist ideology here doesn't fit reality.

  • @ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293
    @ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 2 года назад +4

    I still find the obsession with having to refer to and 'identify' as 'black' really bizarre. NOBODY else on planet Earth is so obsessed with their appearance or race; it seems to have to apply to and be brought into EVERY conversation, every activity, every pass time, every social movement. It's utterly bizarre. How exhausting to have to politicise where your ancestors came from or how dark your skin tone so consciously and deliberately all the time. This 'blackness' is an American fixation and sadly, it's leaked all around the planet and caught on. It's almost like a version of OCD, like a tic, to 'other-ise' yourself all the time like this. Pointless and strange-- especially in America where these 'black' people are just regular Americans living in the only culture they've ever known. What's the point in 'other-ising' yourself like this? It's political, weaponisation of 'identity' which in this case is laugh out loud hilarious because, dude, you don't need to tell me you're 'black': I have eyes. 🥱

    • @ST8URCASE
      @ST8URCASE 2 года назад +2

      VERY WELL SAID!!! BRAVO!!

  • @marcusdarden1535
    @marcusdarden1535 2 года назад

    I know about that book "White Fragility" and nowhere in that book does it speak or even imply that Blacks should be coddled, as McWhorter suggests it does.

  • @msi8311
    @msi8311 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for differentiating literature from scholarship. That is a BIG issue and has been, especially in far right and far left groups.

  • @mitchmclennan4
    @mitchmclennan4 3 года назад +1

    I want McWhorter to debate DiAngelo so fucking badly it hurts. The world needs to see the verbal obliteration of one of the primary movers of the cult of woke and who better to do it than one of the "dispossessed" she claims to speak for.

  • @iconicamericano1131
    @iconicamericano1131 3 года назад +1

    This man should have his own youtube channel if he doesn't already

  • @merc9nine
    @merc9nine 3 года назад

    John is a legend. Check out his podcast with Glenn Loury

  • @corbini157
    @corbini157 3 года назад

    He and Glenn Lowry need their own show

  • @robertoseveno
    @robertoseveno 2 года назад

    I like this guy

  • @moniqueloomis9772
    @moniqueloomis9772 2 года назад

    I appreciate the effort. Buuuut, what he has said here isn't new or groundbreaking.

  • @19Slim68
    @19Slim68 3 года назад

    Have Thomas Sowell and Noam Chomsky on the show and have them debate. 😁

  • @sanghoonlee5171
    @sanghoonlee5171 3 года назад +2810

    "White Fragility should be used to keep table from wobbling. That's the only use for that book." 🤣

    • @EyeTunz
      @EyeTunz 3 года назад +27

      Pretty lame joke actually.

    • @blix101112
      @blix101112 3 года назад +193

      @@EyeTunz Kinda like your sense of humor---lame?

    • @EyeTunz
      @EyeTunz 3 года назад +13

      @@blix101112 good one.😐

    • @CourtneyHaynes
      @CourtneyHaynes 3 года назад +19

      he totally lied about the book. I think it has major problems, but he flat out made things up that aren't even in there.

    • @commanderinsleep2779
      @commanderinsleep2779 3 года назад +59

      Wow, the left bitching about “White Fragility” as they promulgated every ridiculous idea just to get me in power!

  • @jayj3000
    @jayj3000 3 года назад +189

    There's so many of us (who are black) that are just exhausted every time there's some new issue to rant and complain about. It really is a special sect of us, the overly-"conscious" usually HBCU grad that feels their purpose in life is to inspect for any all reason to air grievances. Even with the Michael Brown type of situations, many of us are so exhausted at street dudes doing dumb stuff to trigger wacky cops, and then the dreadlock army coming in with self righteous protest.

    • @TheJustina102085
      @TheJustina102085 Год назад

      It’s funny, I’m a white guy just as a preface, but my roommate for years was a black guy. He bitched so much about this argument for low expectations that I became an expert on the dissenting point of view from the mainstream. I personally never thought about things from that side but once I asked myself, “would I want that”, it all made sense to me. I certainly wouldn’t want bunch of white people saying attaining an ID is racist because I’m too dumb to find a DMV or that being on time is a white concept & shouldn’t expect telling time as something I can accomplish blah blah.. it’s going to take black and brown people to tell us ignorant white elites to F off haha
      anyways your comment made me think of my buddy.

    • @jamescolby7125
      @jamescolby7125 Год назад

      Some of those same points you touched on I'm exhausted about. But I'm also exhausted about people like you who don't seem to care about your own. People like you I fit in the same category as the dumb Street dudes who do stupid stuff to get cops attention, you're no different than them when it comes to the plight of black people in the United States. You just fit on the side where you're okay with others taking advantage of your people. If I had my way people like you and the so-called Thug be wiped off the face of the universe that way real black progressives could find a route to make change for the betterment of our people.

    • @zachsalvatore5175
      @zachsalvatore5175 Год назад +4

      Damn🤣who could’ve guessed it’d be the HBCU grads

    • @angusdog22
      @angusdog22 Год назад

      I agree . I really think it a small, well organized , well funded group of radical leftists ( black and white ) that are controlling the social discourse right now in America. Most regular people are just trying to make it in life and are disgusted with all this stuff .

    • @practicalgamer4991
      @practicalgamer4991 Год назад

      so what you’re saying is street dudes trigger cops into killing them ?

  • @hellmuth26
    @hellmuth26 3 года назад +1660

    Why is this only 4 minutes, should have given him the whole show.

    • @icantdrive75
      @icantdrive75 3 года назад +65

      The actual conversation went on for another 10 minutes and it was fantastic.

    • @YourLocalCopiumDealer
      @YourLocalCopiumDealer 3 года назад +9

      Bill has been cutting most of his interviews lately.

    • @Almost-Nothing
      @Almost-Nothing 3 года назад +4

      Sadly, you need to pay to watch it all

    • @janeaustin9540
      @janeaustin9540 3 года назад +18

      @@Almost-Nothing You can listen to the entire show as a podcast for free if you are OK not seeing it.

    • @DamirMohamed46
      @DamirMohamed46 3 года назад +22

      ​@@Almost-Nothing Not really. Here's the entire episode:
      ruclips.net/video/SgMfq223a0E/видео.html

  • @meinking22
    @meinking22 3 года назад +1257

    I'm a simple man...I see John McWhorter on RUclips and I click Play, every time.

    • @maximuskhan2100
      @maximuskhan2100 3 года назад +14

      I love him and Lowry; I want to sit on a porch with a shotgun in my lap next to Lowry and tell them all to get off our lawns! lol

    • @meinking22
      @meinking22 3 года назад +5

      @@maximuskhan2100 Lowry also rocks. Just common sense. I could listen to that dude all day long.

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo 3 года назад +4

      You are not a simple man, more like a copy cat.

    • @Andrew-zv4fm
      @Andrew-zv4fm 3 года назад +2

      I read this that you are a single man.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue 3 года назад +1

      Lol. He says nothing of substance.

  • @Ablestreet
    @Ablestreet 3 года назад +178

    Some Black people might agree with the book White Fragility and others may not. It would help the world a lot if people just saw a black person as just that, a black person. Not someone who is a carbon copy of all other black people. The same should be said for all white people, Asian people, Hispanic people and so on!

    • @srcolema07
      @srcolema07 3 года назад +1

    • @RubyTwilite
      @RubyTwilite 3 года назад +6

      You would think but the left thinks thats not enough. A black person who disagrees with them is called all sorts of racist names and not allowed to think for themselves, how condescending!

    • @Ablestreet
      @Ablestreet 3 года назад +7

      @@RubyTwilite Your comment is the opposite of the point I was making!

    • @mattstaj3632
      @mattstaj3632 3 года назад +2

      Well said...it really is that simple.

    • @jays6654
      @jays6654 3 года назад +1

      @@RubyTwilite that’s the best response you can come up with? Your white fragility shows right through ! SMDH

  • @angprt2
    @angprt2 3 года назад +286

    This was a good conversation. We need more guests like this that bring common sense back to the forefront

    • @cabayern9416
      @cabayern9416 2 года назад +2

      Yes!!!! He needs to speak everywhere!

    • @falseprogress
      @falseprogress Год назад +5

      McWhorter is also one of the best at "talking in parentheses" (adding a side note) without getting off his main points.

  • @g-tom1986
    @g-tom1986 3 года назад +10

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    • @lisamark7251
      @lisamark7251 3 года назад

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    • @danielkane851
      @danielkane851 3 года назад

      Bitcoin trading is a very lucrative way of making money online

    • @danielkane851
      @danielkane851 3 года назад

      But now and invest in Bitcoin

    • @angelinajoseph7167
      @angelinajoseph7167 3 года назад

      Trading crypto currency (bitcoin) is also a nice way to invest $1000 and change your life

    • @williamseric7691
      @williamseric7691 3 года назад

      Well with the crypto currency market favorable as it is, investing now wouldn't be a bad choice.

  • @williammiller8317
    @williammiller8317 3 года назад +25

    The soft bigotry of low expectations...

  • @shok24199
    @shok24199 3 года назад +498

    John _killed_ it here. He obviously prepared for this, because his lines are razor sharp.

    • @billsimms2511
      @billsimms2511 3 года назад +3

      Yes indeed his words packed punch here ..

    • @mspoints4fre123
      @mspoints4fre123 3 года назад +21

      John is always like this surprisingly. Dude is just super quick witted.

    • @jl4339
      @jl4339 3 года назад +3

      I wouldn't say, he "killed" it. He definitely needed more time to effectively to support his points with more examples, etc.

    • @jethro502
      @jethro502 3 года назад +7

      His mind is razor sharp, all his interviews are like that.

    • @mspoints4fre123
      @mspoints4fre123 3 года назад +4

      @Brian H When you have insane people like Joy Reid being run on CNN 24/7 this is what happens