@@UltimEVB yes they are , but not your avg air superiority , highly Maneuvers. They are meant to use their speed and altitude to their advantage , do their job and get the fk out of there as fast as possible
It's missiles had 8g max pull (in comparison to Sparrows and R-23/R-24 with 15-25g depending on model). It's radar had no look down shoot down capability and was pure SRC, no doppler, and extremely unreliable. It was also subsonic at low altitude, the engines had incredibly poor performance until above 5km. Imo in terms of Soviet interceptors for it's time the MiG-23 was far better. In terms of war thunder I don't think the mig25 would be added as it'd be effectively useless in the game itself, mig31 only so if we get much bigger maps than the tiny ones we have right now.
@@snowchi2792 I think the mig-25 has missiles that pull 8gs because the Valkyrie, to my knowledge, can’t pull off a kvoucher bell. It’s meant to intercept bombers (especially made for Valkyrie) not fighters but for the time it would be a great plane for defence.
It had best radar and better missile to BVR that f35 fnabois like to show off. It did it half century ago. Mig 31 fires hypersonics now while f15 is on to retirement
The Soviets quickly learned that they shouldn't lie about the capability of their equipment and boast about it the Americans took those personally and created a flying monster
The soviets didn't even say anything about it. The US projected its own expectations on it. Also,the f-15 design was created before the mig 25. Additionally, the mig 25 is very dangerous and challenging to the f-15
We were worried russia had the f15 before us but nah thry hade a flying schoolbus in terms of maneuverability so we went ahead and made a plane with a kd so positive it makes the f22 jealous
Speed didn’t quite help it enough to do better than 8-8-1 lol. F-15’s sitting there with 102-0-0, and the F-15E has 1-0-3. It normally wouldn’t have an air to air kill since that’s the regular F-15’s job, but an Iraqi chopper was approaching and the F-15E famously had an extra bomb. Btw, kill records for fighters are listed as kills -> deaths by air -> deaths by SAM/ground fire, and the F-15 is one of only two fighters in history to have a flawless record, the other being the Harrier, since the British racked up Argentinian jets during the Falklands War. And even then, the Harrier’s only got 21-0-3.
@@meteorknight999 I never said that the MiG-25 was made for the F-15, but a lot of Vatniks don’t know that. But let’s compare the MiG-31 and F-15. First off, hypersonics aren’t a thing in air-to-air combat. MiG-31 only has hypersonic ATGMs, and even then, Russia lies out its ass all the time, so the capabilities of them are questionable. But while the F-15 has a proven combat record over decades of fighting in contested airspace, the MiG-31 has no records I can find, even though it is operating in the Russo-Ukrainian War as we speak. What I do know is its engines don’t have the greatest service life, which is kinda important to, I don’t know, flying?
@@meteorknight999 The F-15 wasn't a copy of the MiG-25. Both designs were similar but their purpose were far FAR different that what you think. The design for the F-15 dated even before the MiG-25 was designed. So your argument of the F-15 being a copy is null.
Here come the F-15 glazers. The f-15 has a high kd because of its wide service opportunities and fighting 3rd gen aircraft. The su-27 can compact f-5,f-4s,and starfighters all day but that doesn't come close to making it special. Additionally,if you're talking about the guided bomb incident, that was the guided bomb. Not that plane. It would have been the same shit across f-18, f-16,etc. Also the mig 25 in some battles I know has gone 1-0 against multiple us 4th gens with Iraqi pilots. And that flying with 1 wing/engine thing? That's less effective with the cobra. If you have to fly with one it means the enemy can finish the job if they have the time.
@@Remix2366 They fought a few MiG-29s in Iraq and won every time. If I remember correctly, they beat out a few MiG-25s as well. The MiG-25 did shoot down one F/A-18, but that was about it for its Gulf War combat effectiveness. Also, I’m not sure if I mentioned the flying with one wing/engine thing, we’re not talking about it still being in combat with one engine and one wing, we’re talking about it still flying with one engine and one wing, which is almost unheard of.
@@Sethdarunner if the strategy doesn't matter then what is its structural survival matter? Ego doesn't win wars. If the plane has to go on the ground without the pilots/planes consent using physical force that's a shoot down. If the plane is taken out of operation by the enemy ,even if just for months its dead for those months
@@meteorknight999 I see you on every one of these comments, trying to cope real hard. It wasn't a copy, the MiG 25 just sparked faster development of the F15. Both are much different in purpose.
@@overlyzealous274 you see me in dreams too prob cheap copy f15 fanboi it doesnt change f15 is cheap copy. Simp for your fighter that isnt even original
@@meteorknight999 they're designed for different roles. One's a multirole fighter and one's an interceptor. F15 was designed by a different design beaurau that had almost no information on the MiG 25. The MiG 25 was oversold on its capabilities and had horrible turning performance, unlike the F15 which had better mobility than any other US fighter at the time. It's called competition, and the need for an answer to what your enemy has. Simples.
Imagine taking long to desgin a good propaganda plane only for your enemy to desgin the best plane in the world at that time to defeat your propaganda plane (the mig25 was shit irl)
Everyone would accept that the enemy has an superior aircraft. If you just prepare to fight against an enemy aircraft superior to you, there will be a better chance you’d win with your creation
F15 still is cheap copy of mig25 altho The jealousy is clear by your comment. Soviets called mig25 interceptor you made imaginary enemy copy pasted mig25 then invaded iraq a weaker enemy
@@meteorknight999The F15 is nowhere near a a cheap copy of the MiG. The MiG was an interceptor whilst the USA managed to make a multirole fighter-bomber that is still in service, unlike the MiG 25.
MiG 25 was a very good interceptor,but the F-15 is very intresting.Even that the Soviets send MiG 25 to absolultly any communist country.I think it has a ratio of 4 or 5 to 1.The F-15- 104-0 seems exagerated but i dont know.
Its the best fighter because it has a better service history than the Mirage 2000 and the Gripen. The Gripen never had a combat history and the Mirage 2000 had a shorter one. Compared the them, the F-15 served in multiple countries in a dozen conflicts, serving in Desert Storm, Lebanon War, Enduring Freedom, and more.
F15 or MiG25? (Also Yes Audio is Taken From Mustards F15 Video Definetly check it out its fking Amazing)
F-15 is still 104-0
So F-15
You should definitely make some educational videos with you voicing them, it would be... beautiful
Both are good F-15 in its capabilities and MIG-25 in its speed and missiles maybe
AIM-7 : I'm going to make you angry.
So i like soviet planes best but they both have different purposes!
I like both equal
Definitely the best interceptor ( Not fighter ) for its time .
Bro😔 Interceptors are fighters😞
@@UltimEVB yes they are , but not your avg air superiority , highly Maneuvers. They are meant to use their speed and altitude to their advantage , do their job and get the fk out of there as fast as possible
@@UltimEVB Not rlly. Interceptors need speed, not too much range needed, you get my point
It's missiles had 8g max pull (in comparison to Sparrows and R-23/R-24 with 15-25g depending on model). It's radar had no look down shoot down capability and was pure SRC, no doppler, and extremely unreliable.
It was also subsonic at low altitude, the engines had incredibly poor performance until above 5km.
Imo in terms of Soviet interceptors for it's time the MiG-23 was far better.
In terms of war thunder I don't think the mig25 would be added as it'd be effectively useless in the game itself, mig31 only so if we get much bigger maps than the tiny ones we have right now.
@@snowchi2792 I think the mig-25 has missiles that pull 8gs because the Valkyrie, to my knowledge, can’t pull off a kvoucher bell. It’s meant to intercept bombers (especially made for Valkyrie) not fighters but for the time it would be a great plane for defence.
F15 and mig 25 looks similar but one can only run and the other can turn
It had best radar and better missile to BVR that f35 fnabois like to show off. It did it half century ago. Mig 31 fires hypersonics now while f15 is on to retirement
@@meteorknight999 the mig 25 is already retired 💀
The f15 is nowhere near retirement as the f15 EX is the next upcoming f15 upgrade
@@meteorknight999don’t russian radars immediately break
@@meteorknight999It had good radar that lacked peripheral vision, its radar was designed to only track what was in front of it, nothing else.
@@meteorknight999104-0 while all your “greatest” Russian jets are being turned to scrap in Ukraine
Bro just dropped the hardest mig-25 and f-15 edit and thought we wouldnt notice
I love mustard he makes all his sentences sound epic af and his vids are amazinggg
Litteraly one user making almost every vechicle in warthunder
He didn't make it there's user missions you can find on war thunder website
The fastest brick ever
Yes because the B-52 can do a cobra
@@Lucapanfil no but mig-25 still remain a brick
@@allessiobuonfiglio6702 yes but it still won’t need to be anything more than 1.
Bc its an interceptor@@allessiobuonfiglio6702
"for a brick, he flew pretty good!" - sergeant Avery Johnson
The f-15 is what the mig-25 was supposed to be
Wrong
The MiG-25 was supposed to be an anti bomber interceptor.
meanwhile during the f15s development, the SR 71 is making Russia waste missiles
Yesterday iwent to the airport with my son my friend was fighter pilot he showed this masterpiece to us
What they created: a vessel to hold the demon lord of the round table
I would grind for the foxbat for one reason
My beloved speedy brick
Mustard is the GOAT when it comes to aviation
Its crazy to see how this evolved to the khinzal shooting mig31s
Yea, MiG-31 - the unmatched fighter with civil houses. Truly a great successor of Foxbat
Mustard is absolutely amazing bro
McDonal teamed up with Douglas and produced the greatest air superiority fighter, The F-15
The MiG-25 was what everyone thought was the best plane until the F-15 rolled off the assembly line
Mustard is an amazing channel
Might as well call it a missile with wings coz it did literally use cruse missile engines
That is true.
and the claw is AIM-120
like dam
Incredible video, I can’t believe my two favorite RUclipsrs have been meshed into one video!
The Soviets quickly learned that they shouldn't lie about the capability of their equipment and boast about it the Americans took those personally and created a flying monster
The soviets didn't even say anything about it. The US projected its own expectations on it. Also,the f-15 design was created before the mig 25. Additionally, the mig 25 is very dangerous and challenging to the f-15
Its funny how from lie.. they made the biggest enemy at that time
We were worried russia had the f15 before us but nah thry hade a flying schoolbus in terms of maneuverability so we went ahead and made a plane with a kd so positive it makes the f22 jealous
Speed didn’t quite help it enough to do better than 8-8-1 lol. F-15’s sitting there with 102-0-0, and the F-15E has 1-0-3. It normally wouldn’t have an air to air kill since that’s the regular F-15’s job, but an Iraqi chopper was approaching and the F-15E famously had an extra bomb. Btw, kill records for fighters are listed as kills -> deaths by air -> deaths by SAM/ground fire, and the F-15 is one of only two fighters in history to have a flawless record, the other being the Harrier, since the British racked up Argentinian jets during the Falklands War. And even then, the Harrier’s only got 21-0-3.
Mig25 wasnt made for f15 since f15 was a copy
Mig31 with hypersonics is what you want to compare not mig25 unilaterally copied
@@meteorknight999 I never said that the MiG-25 was made for the F-15, but a lot of Vatniks don’t know that. But let’s compare the MiG-31 and F-15. First off, hypersonics aren’t a thing in air-to-air combat. MiG-31 only has hypersonic ATGMs, and even then, Russia lies out its ass all the time, so the capabilities of them are questionable. But while the F-15 has a proven combat record over decades of fighting in contested airspace, the MiG-31 has no records I can find, even though it is operating in the Russo-Ukrainian War as we speak. What I do know is its engines don’t have the greatest service life, which is kinda important to, I don’t know, flying?
@@meteorknight999 The F-15 wasn't a copy of the MiG-25. Both designs were similar but their purpose were far FAR different that what you think.
The design for the F-15 dated even before the MiG-25 was designed. So your argument of the F-15 being a copy is null.
Here come the F-15 glazers.
The f-15 has a high kd because of its wide service opportunities and fighting 3rd gen aircraft. The su-27 can compact f-5,f-4s,and starfighters all day but that doesn't come close to making it special. Additionally,if you're talking about the guided bomb incident, that was the guided bomb. Not that plane. It would have been the same shit across f-18, f-16,etc. Also the mig 25 in some battles I know has gone 1-0 against multiple us 4th gens with Iraqi pilots. And that flying with 1 wing/engine thing? That's less effective with the cobra. If you have to fly with one it means the enemy can finish the job if they have the time.
@@Remix2366 They fought a few MiG-29s in Iraq and won every time. If I remember correctly, they beat out a few MiG-25s as well. The MiG-25 did shoot down one F/A-18, but that was about it for its Gulf War combat effectiveness. Also, I’m not sure if I mentioned the flying with one wing/engine thing, we’re not talking about it still being in combat with one engine and one wing, we’re talking about it still flying with one engine and one wing, which is almost unheard of.
The eagle was better than the tomcat
The F15 is still around after about 104 kills and no losses
104 kills and no context,bud. It was fighting 3rd gen most of the time and it was shot down by the fox
@@Remix2366 valid. But it hasn’t been shot down yet. And it’s a deadly BVR fighter with a large payload
@@Sethdarunner uhh yes it has. It was shot and forced to go down. Therefore shot down. That's a strategic kill.
@@Remix2366 no that’s not a kill. A kill is a crash. The F15 is not shot down. We’re not talking strategic kills. We’re talking actual kills.
@@Sethdarunner if the strategy doesn't matter then what is its structural survival matter? Ego doesn't win wars. If the plane has to go on the ground without the pilots/planes consent using physical force that's a shoot down. If the plane is taken out of operation by the enemy ,even if just for months its dead for those months
Also a fact; F-15 didn’t see a real war
Mustard is yummy and cool. Also the MiG 25 was pure dog crap
Please please please colab with mustard to add these cinematically to his vids or yours
Mach 3 fighter update when⁉️ F8u-3 vs mig-25
The thing is the soviets lied about there capabilitys
So the USA despite knowing its a lie
As a show of strength proved that they could out do the lie
No it was interceptor with BVR capability
US copy pasted mig25 to make f15 like its identifying as chinese
@@meteorknight999 I see you on every one of these comments, trying to cope real hard. It wasn't a copy, the MiG 25 just sparked faster development of the F15. Both are much different in purpose.
@@overlyzealous274 you see me in dreams too prob cheap copy f15 fanboi it doesnt change f15 is cheap copy. Simp for your fighter that isnt even original
@@meteorknight999 they're designed for different roles. One's a multirole fighter and one's an interceptor. F15 was designed by a different design beaurau that had almost no information on the MiG 25. The MiG 25 was oversold on its capabilities and had horrible turning performance, unlike the F15 which had better mobility than any other US fighter at the time. It's called competition, and the need for an answer to what your enemy has. Simples.
@@meteorknight999im no F-15 fanboy but can you not just admit that you're wrong and move on? It wasn't that good of a jet
Imagine taking long to desgin a good propaganda plane only for your enemy to desgin the best plane in the world at that time to defeat your propaganda plane (the mig25 was shit irl)
Even if it wasn't good, who in their right mind would accept that your enemy has built a good plane This is propaganda to me
Everyone would accept that the enemy has an superior aircraft. If you just prepare to fight against an enemy aircraft superior to you, there will be a better chance you’d win with your creation
It wasn't a propaganda airplane, the Soviet made it for interception missions in absolute secrecy which obviously made the western powers concerned
F15 still is cheap copy of mig25 altho
The jealousy is clear by your comment. Soviets called mig25 interceptor you made imaginary enemy copy pasted mig25 then invaded iraq a weaker enemy
@@meteorknight999The F15 is nowhere near a a cheap copy of the MiG. The MiG was an interceptor whilst the USA managed to make a multirole fighter-bomber that is still in service, unlike the MiG 25.
Me: OH. NO.
NO! NO!!! NOOOOOOOO-
Mig 25 would have made the first kill of an F15, but somehow F15 managed to return to the base so theoretically it doesn't count right?
Nope dosent
The f14 b is the best counter to anything if flown right (not like Tom cruise)
The mig 25 must be added to the game fr
Remember how IAF blasted with mach 3 speed of Pakistan and PAF couldn't do a thing about it
Best fighter jet in American propaganda. But still best fighter until F-22
MiG 25 was a very good interceptor,but the F-15 is very intresting.Even that the Soviets send MiG 25 to absolultly any communist country.I think it has a ratio of 4 or 5 to 1.The F-15- 104-0 seems exagerated but i dont know.
Guess who got another sub
105-0 😐
like and comment on this if you are gay
*meant to be best bomber interceptor. Like wth is the b-52 do? A cobra? A kvoucher bell?
US got so scared they made the f15
@@SOLDIER_SKID yep they didn’t know mig-25 was an interceptor prob
@@Lucapanfilstill can’t even do that, bombers can probably turn better
@@Idkwhattoput151 The smartest US bias propaganda spreader:
Wait i remember this voice i think its from yarnhub
Nah, it’s mustard
Did u use referee mode?
This audio is from mustard right?
Yes it's mentioned in pinend comment and in the video
Sorry i am blind
@@anshmahagade349np
hey dude your server in that’s expried i would like to join:(
Just go to my channels about me section and ull find the link there
104:0 look out below
No credit to mustard?
There is
In the video and in the Pinned Comment
@@Dark_Productions sorry
Yet an Iraqi Mig-25 blew a wing off from an F-15 , the latter made it home with an epic close call story !
... f15 ? Best fighter ...?
BRU never heard of the mirage or the grippen i guess ...
Its the best fighter because it has a better service history than the Mirage 2000 and the Gripen. The Gripen never had a combat history and the Mirage 2000 had a shorter one. Compared the them, the F-15 served in multiple countries in a dozen conflicts, serving in Desert Storm, Lebanon War, Enduring Freedom, and more.
104 kills
0 losses
btw this voice is stolen from Mustard the MIG-25 foxbat video
Literally Have told Its from Mustards video in both pinned comment and The Video itself
Comment your BR for air main
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Mine is 4.7
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Same @@Maus.128.75
F15
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I think I'm cooler
Yes you are .
yes
You have those long range missiles for awacs
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That is just biased
Yeah and now look at the Russian military what a pathetic joke.
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