Windows 10 Users Forced To Upgrade to Windows 11
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2022
- Windows 10 Users Forced To Upgrade to Windows 11
It seems Windows 10 users are being tricked and tempted by Microsoft to upgrade to Windows 11. These popups happen during the start up process of Windows and when at the desktop. You can decline, but its easy to make a mistake and when you restart you will have Windows 11 installed on your computer. A lot of people feel that Microsoft are trying to force them to upgrade to Windows 11 with these pop ups messages like, we recommend windows 11 for your device and restart to stay up to date.
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Joke's on them, my pc doesn't meet the requirements for Win 11.
Same lol. Can't imagine trying to skirt around Update and Shutdown every time.
Thats my laptop!
Requirements mean nothing I got Windows 11 installed on an Intel Atom N550 2 x 1.5 GHz, Pineview ; Graphics adapter. Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 3150 ; Memory 2GB. 2048 MB, 240GB SSD.
@@dexterdeath : True, and you know that very soon, they could lower the arbitrary requirements that they set for Windows 11 without telling anyone about and suddenly, your laptop/PC is capable of receiving Windows 11, and it will just automatically update without your permission; kind of like they did for a time with Windows 10....
The only problem is if linux works correctly for you.
I just love how Microsoft said windows 10 was the last version they will ever make, and it will just receive updates.
Windows 11 is a new version of Windows 10. Someone reported some internal Microsoft data that supports this.
@@RossNixon Debatable
@@RossNixon looks like reskinned windows 10 with worse right click menu
@@ZaHandle Yep, you got it. I am looking forward to some new things though. e.g. ability to run Android apps.
@@RossNixon I’m staying on 10 until most of the early problems are fixed
It's also worth noting like others have that there is no longer ever a "No" option for windows. It's always "skip" or "not now"
This is some sort of esoteric wording that makes it so when they force the updates, they can say "well, you never explicitly declined so...."
@Linden Reaper And it continues to look better with every single update from M$.
@Linden Reaper Why did Microsoft produce this crap to begin with? Why Couldn't they find any programmers that had common Since based with some intelligence??? Many of us don't have degrees in Microsoft subject matter???
use their ownstupidity against them , go to the bios and disable tpm and you wont have the requisites to update to 11
It's worse than that. They're explicitly stating that updating is not an option.
@Linden Reaper
- *"It's not the programmers' fault. Typically, it's the people who run the company who force the programmers to do things. if the programmers don't comply, they get fired."*
"I was just following orders" is not, and should _never_ be a valid excuse. Doing shitty things is doing shitty things, weather or not you _want_ to do it. Theres always a choice. People just doing what they are told without question is how shit like this happens in the first place. And it will only continue and get worse with the mindless compliance.
Can't be forced to upgrade when your PC doesn't meet the requirements to upgrade
Praise the lord for that
Mine met the requirements but glad I turned tpm and secure boot off.
Don't be so sure, I wouldn't put it past them to forget about that, make the upgrade happen and leave us with a computer that won't do anything without a reinstall.
@@romella_karmey My computer didn't meet the requirement because I lacked the TPM 2.0. My new laptop was already on windows 11 since I got it. It was the only requirement missing for my computer to have windows 11.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade if they remove the TPM requirements and force me to upgrade. I will just switch to linux and run VM's to emulate windows for the stuff I have that requires windows.
How ironic that TPM 2, the very thing we complained about, is the very same thing we are using to prevent an upgrade by not having TPM 2.0.
Because people actually do want to update to W11 so this is why they complained about it, though there are motherboards older than socket 1155 (Intel gen 2) which have all of the requirements for W11 already built in.
People "don't want" to upgrade to W11 because they need to buy another PC so the W11 suddenly becomes undesirable.
Still, based on the history of past Windows releases, W11 can't be good.
You know you can disable TPM 2.0 in the BIOS right?
@@Dandan-tg6tj Yeah. The need to buy a new PC was really a hype killer for some. And of course there's also the issue of what to do with unsupported PCs, just throw them away? I think there was even a Ryzen model that was not supported, throw that away too? I'd hate to be the owner of a PC like that.
But in retrospect, if I am that concerned with privacy and the privilege to make an offline account in Windows then I guess W11 isn't a loss. I'm still in W10 and I don't see the need to upgrade. I'm still playing 10 year old games.
I'm on the fence myself. I have a win10 machine that works mostly fine (I think there's a small annoying RAM issue or something that causes a game to crash once in a blue moon, probably Silicon Lottery type stuff). My computer does not have TPM 2.0 so I will never have to worry about w11. I may or may not want another PC at some point, but which OS? Eh, I think I would want to stick with 10. I don't like how that one screen says "Some features will not be available in W11" and "Some apps will have increased requirements" ... it's like "uh, why?" that and there's the "ok, why do I need w11 when 10 is working fine?" And with how the political stuff is going on these days... newer is always sus, because they add more spyware and junk in there to track what you're doing, putting backdoors into your system, etc. Not sure I want any of that.
@@Dhalin Imagine you run a full diagnostic on your PC and find out that one stick of RAM is faulty. You change that specific stick of RAM and you live your life happily ever after.
You may not even need to change a stick of RAM, it may be only the pins of RAM sticks who needed a little cleaning.
Your motherboard could have accumulated some moist dust somewhere and a professional cleaning might solve your problems.
It may be the video card who does some tricks now and then. I found out that because of the excessive heat most video cards shut down for a tiny bit or even completely.
Finally, there's a possibility your hard drive can have accumulated some bad sectors (SSDs can too).
There's a huge chance none of the above to be true but one of your drivers to glitch.
There's software to test everything, of course, but to read and understand the readings is not very straight-forward most of the times.
Long story short, you don't need another OS.
You can reinstall W10 64B anew and this should solve your problems.
Anyway make a backup of the data you want to keep and think hard if you missed any precious pictures or clips you may have forgotten where you stored them.
Only then install W10.
Can see microsoft did not learn from the past this was the same nonsense the pulled on windows 7 and windows 8 users with windows 10
Nope, they still doing the same crap
That's why I didn't take their "free" offer of W10, and stayed with W8.1
@@shaundavey5938 personally i would use windows 10 at least untill 2025 windows 11 is still far from optimised and is still buggy
Microsoft can pay a small fee to be allowed to do whatever it wants. The real issue lies in you still taking it up the ass.
@@JoshuaLodge2701 yep
F, i was like in the windows insider program, one morning i wake up and i just saw the windows 11 login page
since then i had a system corruption and a boot loop, and so many crashes
There's also a BIOS setting in most machines that makes your computer not meet the system requirements for Windows 11 - in which case, the joke's on them for having such high system requirements.
If I build a PC I think it will run Windows 10 but maybe if I'm lucky and I get really good parts it might run Windows 11.
@@therealloganyt237 i have a gaming pc that can run over a dozen independent programs, as well as spread a AAA game across all 3 monitors.... i DONT have windows 11 and dont plan on getting windows 11.... and microsoft cant 'make' me upgrade, because i never turned on (and never plan to as its the only way to 'opt out' of the forced update) the BIOS setting that windows 11 requires to be enabled befor it will install.
@@Gwydion_Wolf ur clearly not educated, win 11 has better CPU and RAM usage, I get better fps in win 11 than 10
regardless, its still weird theyre forcing people :( ive spent a ton of time customizing my windows 10 layout, and it looks like a lot of the options arent even available in 11, or id have to redo it all
its just not something im interested, im not a fan of how it looks
@@InternalxHD human eyes are not going to notice a 10 fps difference between 130 and 140 fps.
I simply don't like what they are doing with windows 11. They already tried forcing us onto the "cloud" with 10 one-drive. Win 11 does it even moreover by literally forcing you onto it as you have no actual "desktop", it's a one-drive view.
There was actually a short time in the past when Windows 7 users were updated to Windows 10 even when they declined the upgrade message! So they could easily do this in the future.
I WANT TO USE WINDOWS 7 AGAIN AND XP AND VISTA! FUCK WINDOWS 10 and 11
@@glh2000 It's going to be much harder now especially with newer systems as manufacturers are not making windows 7 compatible drivers and newer motherboards need USB 3 drivers even if they are running USB 2 ports! So you will have buy older systems to use Windows 7 but even then software is slowing losing compatibility for Windows 7. 😐
@@jackkraken3888 I know that very well. I Actually have a laptop with Windows 7
what about VM Ware Or Virtual Box?
@@dontmindbeingblindd For running Windows 7? It will run fine as far as I know but it's just not the same as running on a bare metal system.
You know another workaround is just turn off the TPM in the bios and then windows won’t think you are eligible for the upgrade.
That worked for me until I updated the bios on my mobo. I no longer have the option of turning TPM off. Bastards.
@@ScottGrammer Really? That’s interesting.
@@Edmundostudios It's an Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero motherboard. When I updated the bios a few weeks ago, the option for tuning off TPM disappeared. I was keeping it turned off just to avoid being pushed into Windows 11.
That's what I did. The TPM deal is bad news...
@@ScottGrammer Don't let Windows 11 win, go back to the earlier bios version if you can.
Being the trusting soul that I am I wonder WHY Microsoft are pushing me to 'upgrade?' to W11. Personally I would prefer to UPGRADE to W7.
I hear you
windows 7 simple quick install nice and clean
@@koioo2 But there is risk in installing win7 so be careful you should install win 10 it is safe and secure
@@FarHaN9 yes i know win 7 is old distro
I have a dual core PC with both W7 and W8.1 still on it, and flatly refused to accept their "free" W10. All is fine.
If they had not reduced the UI, cutting functionality, I wouldn't be so offended by the idea of a forced "upgrade".
Yes, it feels more like a downgrade than an upgrade.
Every time something updates without my consent, I feel like I just got raped.
@@misterkaos.357 Cry
@@misterkaos.357 it has been like this since windows 7. i think windows vista (as buggy as people claimed it to be) was the last "buy and keep" operating system that didnt try to urge you to upgrade with increasing force.
People need to wake up. If Microsoft con you or force you to upgrade, especially if it causes problems, you need to let everyone know. High time a class action was taken against Microsoft.
SteamOS should be getting more attention.
@@thelanecampbell what's SteamOS???
@@therealloganyt237 it's the version of Linux created by Valve for running windows games. I imagine it can run a lot of windows productivity apps as well should someone decide to try. It doesn't stalk you like Windows 10+ do.
Let's be optimistic. If windows keeps trying to turn my pc into an Iphone... I'll install Linux. Maybe with critical mass, developers will start making games on Linux. And then Windows will wither and die.
@@melanieenmats iPhone*
I love how they let users stay on Windows 10 and get updates until 2025 but then try and force people to Windows 11 anyways for no reason.
Oh... there's a reason. There's either MONEY to be made or MONEY being lost, but you can bet there's an incentive behind everything that doesn't make sense when people work overtime for you to get whatever it is they're pushing. There's also the possibility that Windows 11 has back door weaknesses that Windows 10 doesn't have. Ways for "them" to track, monitor and otherwise violate an individuals privacy.
Yes, it is ridiculous isnt it. Have not seen these messages yet, but I know they are coming. I know I will stay with Win 10 pro until both my systems crash and burn.
They have to get the market share otherwise they’ll be for ed to maintain windows 10
@@trevorforrester3142 🎯 on that last part
@@dathyr1 I'm a bit curious what will happen with my computer, as it's 7 years old and definitely not supported under 11. Windows 10 runs fine, apart from the ridiculous boot time, but it's not going to be supported under 11. Personally, I spend most of my time on FreeBSD, so it's not that big of a deal, but it's kind of annoying because I do use some Windows only software that doesn't have an open source equivalent.
MS did the same thing with Windows 10. First they make it sound like it's something you want. Then they try to confuse users into "upgrading." Then they'll actively force an upgrade.
@Linden Reaper And then get harassed by the linux community for being a windows user beforehand. The Linux community is such an elitist community full of inflated egos, it's not gonna be an enjoyable experience.
@Linden Reaper Found the elitist Linux user.
(I use Linux on several computers. I just hate what we're doing as a community because we are NOT growing with this elitism. DE hate, Wayland boycotting, noob hate, WM elitism, non-systemd elitism, it's stupid.)
@Linden Reaper Keep being the exact elitist I described, and you guys think your world of inflated egos will attract new users? No
@Linden Reaper Still elitist. You keep saying "whining" but I don't see you contributing anything though? Do you even contribute to open source projects?
@Linden Reaper I love how you ask this guy to "use Linux" yet you say "less people should use Linux". You guys are HYPOCRITES. You will never learn. All you can do is call people "fools" due to your superiority complex.
See, this kind of scumminess is what makes me resistant to the idea of going to w11 in the first place. Microsoft needs to understand that if they want to convince me to go to w11, they need to be honest and upfront and stop it with the scummy tactics. Sure, do _one_ popup, make the decline button easy to see and never do it again, maybe put a link in Windows update or something for the day I do decide to do it finally on my own terms, and on my own time. Then maybe I'll think about it when I have free time and after I've been able to back up my data, get my drives ready etc. But trying to just dump it on me using tricky methods makes me back up and go "hmm why do they want me to do this so bad?" like... are they trying to push more spyware on me? Do they want my telemetry that bad that they want me to install TODAY? If that's the case, then eeeeeh, that's a big "NO THANKS".
But, we know they will NOT be honest. I am grateful my Surface Pro 3 will not upgrade and I will buy another pro 3 as a backup fro Win10.
yeah, they dont realize how much of a pain it is to see if you like something. especially when i know i just dont want to deal with the new UI
when im clicking all the decline buttons for a short moment it feels like if i cut the wrong wire a building will collapse.
They did something similar with the persistent popups on 7/8 to upgrade to 10, although what they're doing with 11 is way worse. I'm done with M$
Nah, they put a lot of spyware in windows 11 and want to get money off of you
Pretty sure that was how windows 10 was from windows 8 ... You could decline ... But the option was still there in the menue they just didn't harass you for it
The solution to this nonsense is as obvious as Microsoft's abuse of their market dominance. Either get used to using a different operating system (such as Mac OS or Linux) that'll let you use it on your terms because it's your PC, or get used to the idea that the computer you use is not your property and does not have to do what you want.
i reckon that is exactly what will happen. the statement won't be "more people run windows 10 than windows 11" , it will be "more people run mac or linux than windows"
Linux still has a large group of elitists that look down their nose at window's users trying to switch to Linux ask me how I know was the most miserable 6 month's in my tech life. The other issue stopping many people from trying is that many game's won't run and like it or not many many windows user's have large game libraries.
Yeah, Apple is FAMOUS for letting people do things how they want! /sarcasm
@@andrewaustin6369 Yeah, I know It's *way* less of a problem than it was ~15 years ago, but I do still encounter people with a low tolerance for newcomers. The support forum for the Distro I use (openSUSE) has many good and helpful people in it, but some of 'em still take a bit of getting used to. It's a bit of a background theme that the best way to make Linux advice more accessible is to just broaden the user base, but for that to happen, the current user base must not deter newcomers from sticking around by being a bag of bellends.
@@BlackSmokeDMax Yeah, Apple is notoriously inflexible; that's one of the reasons I don't use them, but it looks like-in a straight choice between Apple and Microsoft-Microsoft have decided to make people choose between inflexibility or just straight-up computer cuckoldry, and hoping that nothing more than inertia will make people choose to cuck themselves.
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Here i am first
Thanks for the heads up.
im turn of tpm v2.0 to stop this
Glad i haven't yet
gonna have ot take this and other tens offline then
permenantly
Looks like Microsoft didn't learn its lesson from the forced Windows 10 upgrades that they got sued for tsk tsk tsk
I know
@@Britec09 pl sue them again...keep sueing them again and again till they learn to behave with their customers
Clearly the fines need to be higher
Looks like wintoddlers didn't learn their lesson in "company can do whatever it wants for a small fee".
Lmao if you think that microsoft cares about the fine they got last time, you're delusional.
@@kirayoshikage4057 Right now until an OS that is user friendly, secure, and can run the programs most mainstream people need Microsoft has us all by the short hairs. While Steam is available on all three OS's Windows Mac, and Linux most of the big developers like Ubisoft only make windows versons of their games. The same can also be said for the big name app makers Quicken, Turbotax, H&R Block, Adobe, and so on get on board with this new OS Microsoft will continue to hold us hostage. And while there are web sites for some things like Turbotax some people refuse to accept change. In my IT experience I've dealt with people who were upset because new computers for the most part are not coming with Optical Drives anymore. I still deal with people who are upset at the whole subscription model for applications.
I'm coming from a FOSS software and os environment, and here I see that Microsoft is using such rubbish and cheap tactics. These tactics don't fly in FOSS.
Isn't this the EXACT thing that happened when Microsoft automatically updated users from Windows 7 to Windows 10? (yeah I know Windows 8 too, but no one used that)
I recall class action lawsuits a number of years ago over these ninja upgrades.
People would come into work, turn on their computers, and wouldn't be able to use it for 4 hours while Windows auto-updated to Windows 10 from Windows 7. There wasn't even a warning popup or anything. It just started updating upon booting. History repeats itself.
I used Win 8 - Windows 8.1 Pro actually and still do. It has extended support until next year. 8.1 turned out to be better than 7. I have it on 3 out of 4 machines still. It's actually a bit snappier than 11 - but that could be a hardware thing...my Win 8 machines are pretty up to date. We shall see if I get the "Windows 11" update non-sense. Have not decided if I will just switch OS (or what to). I am not really liking Windows 11 thus far.
yes
Yes, they did that to my mothers laptop (when she was still alive). She was pissed... old woman just raging mad her games were gone... her fave being taptiles. Her whole desktop changed. That was in 2019. Microsoft is a prick company that has some kind of god complex that, oh the consumers will like this change and that change... well the consumer doesn't have a choice.
@@galimirnund6543 I've been there and totally understand. Unfortunately there still is no good choice for compatibility and ease of use for the common end user. Most all specialized software for various industries is Windows only, sometimes Mac, and no one I deal with even knows what Linux is. So the choices are 1) Stick with Windows 2) Pay two to three times more and get a Mac, or try to muddle through 8,000 Linux distros to see if any are good or compatible, but that never happens.
@@piggsinablankie Or try WINE for Linux and see which Windows software will run on it.
Great heads up Brian. We must be more aware and scrutinize these messages. I can see how easy it would be to accidentally update to 11. Thank you Sir - Great Vid as always !
Absolutely!
@@Britec09
I think it's amazing how you're always keeping up on this stuff.
I love watching your Channel but I get so tired of update this do that do this and do that.
Keith
@@KTHKUHNKK That's Windows for you.
@@Britec09
Or should we say that's Microsoft.
@@Britec09 Thanks Brian for videos.. Haven't got that popup yet.. I'm up to date and where now thanks.
One of the problems with Windows 11 is that some software will quit running or can't be installed due to the software code that limits the software to w10 and older. The software will run ok if it was not for this limitation. Now the software has to be upgraded, software is purposely written so it will be obsolete in newer windows versions. It's a conspiracy.
That is untrue that is definitely untrue everything that works on Windows 10 works on when there's 11 there is there is no difference in that it's gonna work the same thing if you have some number someone with the 7 it's gonna work on Windows 11 And I am currently on Windows 11 and have Not ran into no compatibility issues whatsoever with any freaking games software software or anything everything just works
My oldest computer is 15 years old and runs just fine on Linux PoP OS.
My 2-in-one laptop has an Intel Petium Atom single core 1.6 Ghz cpu and trundells along happily with a Linux MX OS.
My newest daily driver is 9 years old and works fine with a Pepermint 10 Linux OS.
Yes I did need to learn a bit about Linux but it wasn't difficult even though I'm 66.
Exe order 66 : )
Freedom!!
did the same myself a while back with my desktop, never looked back, as much as people around me have said i should use windows
I got so sick of MS commanding my PC that I switched to Linux 1.5 years ago. It was the best OS based move I've ever done!
Good move did the same switched to Linux 13 years ago never looked back
Lol nice, welcome to the club. I was dual booting the two since around 2014-2015, then when Windows 10 first released and started messing up drivers from forced drivers update, I completely wiped Windows and ran fedora 100% of the time.
i wish I could do the same.
None of my PC's, laptops or those of my friends or my work meet the requirements of Windows 11. Interestingly Microsoft Update states " This PC doesn't currently meet the system requirements to run Windows 11". The interesting bit is the the word "Currently". This gives the impression that they may be forced to move the goal posts as huge numbers of perfectly serviceable computers cannot run Windows 11 and the relatively low take up will not look good. Moving the goalposts to ensure more computers are capable of running Windows 11 would appear to be Microsofts only option it also appears that a lot of people don't like Windows 11 as it doesn't appear to offer any benefit over Windows 10.
@Linden Reaper Linux needs more marketing. But we, the community is what is preventintg it from becoming mainstream.
Look at hp for instance. They recently started selling laptops with Pop! but many community members are angry and making false accusations that hp will mess up.
I wish i could fully dump windows. But i already use linux more than it these days.
@Linden Reaper Cause of work and stuff. But i use linux mostly
I have a very interesting new development from Microsoft on the windows 11 front i started it up this morning it would seem my old dell which has not been compatible since the launch has now suddenly become compatible with win 11, i am not going to attempt the upgrade of course. but this is an interesting development, This has only changed on the windows update page, and i did have a win 10 update yesterday, so i don't know if the upgrade would actually install i might go get the compatibility checker from MS and see if this now reports the same, but it would seem MS are pushing to get people to upgrade to win 11. I did run the ms compaibilty checker and it still says not compatible, on 3 counts cpu, safe boot and tpm. So i thought i will start the update just to see, and it only failed on safe boot and tpm, so it would seem MS are up to some jiggery pokery with win 11 compatibility
Those computers are either over 4 years old, or you need to change some settings in the bios. Assuming you actually want 11 which is just reskinned 10
My computer purchased less than a year ago keeps bothering me to install WIndows 11 and I defiantly refuse. As Windows 10 users we can make Microsoft regret their choice to artificially block the update on capable machines by keeping the uptake slow. Make Microsoft think twice before trying this obsolescence nonsense again.
Linux was a proficient enough system to use at Intel Corporation when I worked there. It is a highly efficient OS system. Unfortunately you are right most people don’t even know what Linux nor UNIX is. I worked at Sun Microsystems with UNIX systems and Intel Corporation with Linux systems.
True.....just told my doctor the VA's website doesn't work properly on Linux. He said what's Linux?
@@cugir321 😂 😂😂😂😂 and he’s the doctor of what….???😂😂😂😂
the next statement will be when they do know: "but, it's not a known brand/company, so how can you trust it? how do you get help if something isn't working?" i've had this shit every time i try to get FOSS software (or at least, open-source) introduced to someone. or ofc, there's the walled ecosystem game. i'm in a local service club and "how do i open this document? [odt] , i'm using an iphone/ipad" *facepalm* trying to share zipfiles is "but, potential for viruses because the format has updated" and so have the programs, especially 7zip, which is my go-to.
my mother is ofc, the one where "but, it's not associated with a company!" backwards logic.
it's also common for the "i don't care" (yet they expect all the problems fixed and to have explanations how to do simple tasks...)
then there's a generation being raised on freakin' chromebooks!
the reason i dont use linux is because its too hard for the average user to want to use it.
also 1/2 my apps work on it
I think Microsoft forced people to upgrade to Windows 11 when they said they'd stop supporting Windows 10 by 2025. Anything extra is just the cherry on top. The main problem with Windows 11 is TPM 2.0, which has been problematic to say the least. Running ftpm on an AMD system? You probably haven't been able to pass the health check app. It's been puzzling manufacturers because TPM is basically the only requirement, aside from having a certain level processor etc.
My desktop is already being shipped as outdated by 2025 because Microsoft decided to force users into using something that likely doesn't improve security anyways.
I guess Linux will suddenly get more popular for some people.
@@vogonp4287 Yep, already considering my options.
@@ardeof As a gamer I am not there yet...but definitely keeping my eye for Gaming on Linux. Fortunately, my desktop is too old to qualify for the update
@@TheAyanamiRei Luckily, with the strides steam is walking, gaming will become better.
@@TheAyanamiRei Gaming on Linux is definitely getting close. Some older games I play actually run better on Linux than Windows.
You're missing one key thing about this forced upgrade. For those, like me, where you're computer doesn't meet the requirements. How many do you think are going to go out and buy a new computer, or new computer parts, in order to upgrade to Win 11? This just won't force people to upgrade to Win11, it will force them to buy whole new computers for it.
Oh no your computer is old as shit and cant run modern software. Microsoft is totally forcing you to go and get a new PC!
Linux is the answer for this problem mostly... if it annoys you enough.
Yes. And I'm not a slave to corporations like that. Or would you like to also be forced to buy a new car or house because yours is old?
@@jarack3256 If it was too old to support a modern lifestyle, then yeah you should upgrade your car/home.
@@cronchcrunch You should. Your decision. There is nothing that says you must do so. Which is what Windows is saying here. You must upgrade in order to use our new supported system. This is straight up Microsoft telling you what to do.
Anyone you deal with in life who tried to deceive you like this is someone you would never trust again, yet people still put their lives in the hands of Microsoft. Other operating systems are available, and for most peoples needs do the job perfectly well.
Other operating systems might not work for other people that's the thing. It really depends on what you're doing.
Good thing we have choices, don't like Microsoft? DON"T USE any of their products, problem solved.
unfortunately i need a windows-based system for engineering school. solidworks, inventor, etc... you know how it is.
@@Parzzyval ah yes, solidworks and inventor... No other software can do same thing. You NEED this specific hammer and this specific nail, or DRM inside the nail will prevent you from hammering it into the wood! And yes, it has to be specific type of wood in case you thought you can choose your own.
@@kirayoshikage4057 In school you don't really have a choice. I studied as software developer in school and if you didn't do your work on the program that the teacher said your work would be land in the trash.
Enterprise ltsc FTW. No extra unnecessary software and no bloatware bullshits. Just pure Windows experience without interruption from Microsoft
Yes, especially if you modify the ISO with ISOTOOL... even better..
what's FTW?
@@Wc5231 abbreviation For The Win..
@@mariolp2999 oh
This is what happened to my parents computer, when I went to do some basic maintenance for them. I am partly to blame though because I wasn't paying too much attention to it when I clicked OK. Their laptop is a pretty nice one, so there hasn't been any issues.
Upgrade? More like a down grade like all version changes from Microsoft. Pick any version all the way back to 3.1 and you will realize they break more stuff than they fix with these so called upgrades.
Anyone old enough to remember when you could do cool things like apply audio backgrounds to emails?
And how long has it been since you seen a printer that could use fan fold printer paper and print out banners?
Every new version always breaks my expensive software and I'm pretty sure it's deliberate to force software developers to write new drivers that are compliant with the changes so Microsoft can charge the developers more money to get their new drivers certified.
This is nothing. Back when Windows 10 was released, Microsoft hid the upgrade within a normal update that nowhere and in any way mentioned containing the upgrade inside. This happened, besides me, to several of my friends and on some pcs in my then workplace: people would click on the update thinking it was just another normal one (again, because Windows 10 was *not* mentioned anywhere even remotely in the update’s name or anywhere else during the installation until it was too late to stop the process) and instead found their computer weighed and sometimes even crippled by the newly released Windows version.
yeah, thats pretty insane, i hope they get sued again for this
Thanks Brian.
This is deceptive/misleading of Microsoft. Shame on you Microsoft.
I agree
Microsoft have been doing this trick for years, they have done it with Windows 7 and 8 to get peoiple to update to ten, they tried to stop people running Windows 8 and 7 on new processors. Ms are scum, worse than Apple thses days, at least apple don't force people to have apple I.D like Ms force people to have a Ms account.
Ms don't care as they are making millions from companies using their cloud service,
i have been thinking about going for a Mac mini, just waiting to see if Apple updates it soon.
@@zyborg47
Apple also has demonstrated underhanded practices. I believe Linux OS would the best alternative. If one were to drop Microsoft. However, Linux also come with it's on bag of issues. I wish there was a way for the people to hold Microsoft accountable for their actions.
There's no way Microsoft is doing that.
Microsoft was always kind and thoughtful.
Now i have to toss my custom windows version with the 112 services and buy windows 11 with more than double.
More services more better! right?........
I'm beyond the level of sickness right now
Fortunately, linux isn't as difficult as it was in the past. Just check if your hardware is supported.
Windows 8.1 was the last good windows version (i didn't mind the start menu). Windows 10 and 11 are just designed to suck more dollars from people.
This will further contribute to climate change.
More people need to be educated about linux distros.
NO COMPANY IS KIND AND THOUGHTFUL! EVER!!!
The same dirty tricks were used to get people to update to Windows 10.
of course.
Just like they forced Windows 7 users to upgrade to Windows 10, now they are doing the same forcing Windows 10 users to upgrade to Windows 11
I have a dual core PC with both W7 and W8.1 still on it, and flatly refused to accept their "free" W10. All is fine.
and guys, stay on windows 7, that end of support is fake, i still use windows 7 without antivirus and is still fine, don't care if support has ended. Is a scam
@@Wc5231
Hello. I don't know anything about computer technology or even the programmes on it. All I do know is that I want to keep either W7 or W8.1 and replace one of them with Linux.
I'd prefer to keep W8.1 and use my W7 space for the Linux installation. What do you think about that? Thank you.
@@EIRE55 well, you can still use windows 7, but if someone tells you that supprt for windows 7 has ended, i recommend you ignore since i still use windows 7 on a laptop and is still fine, and i always forgot to install an antivirus, but i recommend you install an antivirus for protect your pc. Anyways, linux installation is in virtual machine or real pc, if is in virtual machine, you can find disc images files, if in a real pc, saldy you cant convert windows 7 to linux, only you can install linux on virtual machine, windows 8.1 is basically the same but aero glass is replaced with a simple design and new wallpapers. That's what i can say
@@Wc5231
Thank you very much for getting back to me.
I use a PC with a dual "something" (hard disk?), which has W7 on one, and W8.1 on the other.
Yes, I have Malwarebytes Antivirus installed on both, and I'm not particularly worried about the end of support on W7. I think W8.1 will soon lose support, too.
I'm not willing to update my Windows at any time, as I don't trust Microsoft at all, and have read many bad reports about W10 and even worse about W11.
Again, many thanks for your kind advice, as it's much appreciated. Stay well, wherever you are. Patricia 😊
I upgraded to Linux. So far all my games work just fine with Steam Proton and some even run better. Feels nice not being attached to Microsoft at all.
I'm on 8.1 and swapping to Mint within a year once I build my next PC.
@AshesOfSparta I've used it off an on for about 15 years.
@AshesOfSparta What I did was installed another hard disk just for Linux and used dual boot trying out different distros. I stuck with Manjaro with KDE. It does take some tinkering to get some bugs ironed out though. VM's are going to be much slower than running on bare-metal. Also if you enjoy gaming you can't really do that in a VM. I would just try out different distos and display managers and see what works best for you.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: as soon as there's a Linux OS that runs all my PC games, I'll make the switch in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, Microsoft has me by the balls, because I'm not willing to be able to only play about 5% of my library.
i was worried about this too, then i made the switch and and installed wine and all my games worked fine!
@@thomasrossbabin3671 I went back to look and it was a Ubuntu filter, specifically, so I don't have a metric for other Linux OSs, like Wine or wahtever.
If you use steam games you are already covered, their Proton thingy runs all my games effortlessly. I heard there is an unofficial launcher also for epic games but i didn't try that. And that wine the other guy said is always an option, it's a program that needs a little setting up tho.
@@clochard4074 I don't use steam.
@アグロペスカ - ジャカレ I'll have to look into Pop_OS, as well. And your english is fine.
Thanks for the info, very helpful.
great informative vid thanks Brian.. I'm still with 21h1 do i need to update to 21h2 as i recall you saying it had issues? Thanks again.
You can update if you wish
@@Britec09 ah so they've ironed out the probs? thanks
No worries: my PCs don't have a TRACKED Platform Module so Microsoft can sit-on-it-and-swivel!
I have a PC that meets the W11 spec but doesn't have the TPM module fitted and it downgraded to Windows 11 without any problems!
Saw your video on how to block this. Keep up the good work Brian.
Thank you for the heads up!
The moment I'm forced to use W11, is the day I migrate fully to a Linux distro like Mint 20
Even if they force me, i cant bcs pc doesnt support the security features.
They did managed to trick me into signing in with my microsoft account when i reinstalled windows but i went back to a local account
The same thing happens with Windows 7, you will wake up one morning and find that it is now Windows 10 or newer. At least on Windows 7 updates were easier to block
So if I have version 20H2 you´d recommend updating to 21H1 as soon as possible? And only THEN update to 21H2? I´m weary about performing any such update because my PC is rather old. I´m concerned the system might become unstable, rather than updated.
Does anybody remember when Windows 10 was going to be the last full version of Windows? I'm still using Windows 7 after I was forced to upgrade from XP. I have one mini PC with Windows 10 pre-installed, no bloatware surprisingly, and I won't be upgrading to 11 but Linux. It seems to me that Microsoft are in league with hardware manufacturers to create as much landfill E-waste as they can. Then you have printers, scanners, and other hardware which won't work on 11 because the manufacturers are also in cahoots to force you to buy new peripherals and won't supply new drivers. The more we allow this, the more they will do it.
Welcome to modernity, you can thank the Mark Zuckerberg's and Jeff Bezos's of the world for the current climate of things. Good replacements for the Gates era....or Hitler.
True. More people need to be educated about this.
Exactly.
I tried windows 11 twice (once on launch and once months later) and it is literally worse than windows 10 in some ways including performance and even RAM usage. There's bugs i found that still haven't been fixed including one that is more major in my opinion where all icons next to the clock (and including the clock) disappear randomly and even restarting explorer won't work in my case nor will restarting my pc but if i open a specific program like task manager it will come back as if nothing went wrong. The only workaround i can find is using explorer patcher and forcing a windows 10 style taskbar and menu. Whoever greenlit windows 11 needs to be fired especially when they also greenlit releasing it soo early in development. If a year or two delay was given it would have been better and even may have more features.
Great Info Thanks!
As best I can tell "Open File Location" is still missing from Win 11 and that is a feature that I use a number of times per day. I need to make more current backups of my win 10 systems so I could thwart MS doing a forced upgrade and do a restore back to Win 10. Win 11 is not ready for prime time yet.
Glad I turned off TPM and Secure boot. Windows 11 messed up my pc big time when the SSD broke. I have to suffer with HDD as a boot drive. I didn't miss Windows 11 a bit, though. Aside from the UI being aesthetically pleasing to the eyes just like MacBooks and iMacs...
i had W10 and W11 on
I have Windows 8 Build 8400 Debombed instead of Windows 11 or Windows 10
Maybe switch to fedora?
@@basilcat3111 i don't know what that is. I was born in Windows World 😂🤣😅
In other words, its basically a better windows imo.
They know they have a flop on their hands when they drown you with messages to try and get you to upgrade.
i dont its that since they did this with w10 too when it was coming out. they put messages on w7 and 8 users desktop.
Haven’t seen that yet but will look out for it. Thanks
Thanks for the heads up Brian I have one laptop that is compatible but don't want to upgrade just yet at least until my security suite lasts to anyway. What does bother me though is that while we are talking about upgrading to 11 there is talk about Windows 12? and it leaves one feeling not that secure in what they are doing with the OS.
I understand the reasoning behind it, but they are being too strict about it imo.
Get vaccinated.
@@Tardenglobe2346 What does this have to do with anything?
@@NicoTheCinderace You will get your vaccine.
Yeah, but they should never be doing this type of popup
@@Britec09 Yeah it's annoying that's for sure
I'd rather install Linux or something else. I don't like being forced to do anything.
@@MatragociuDavid Until you go afk and it shits on you
Thanks for the heads up! Informational as usual. We still need the tutorial on Windows 11 lite!
Last time I tried to upgrade my Windows 10, it screwed up all my icons on my desktop. I rolled it back to my previous version and have been delaying any upgrades!! Decided to buy a MacBook Pro and learn how to use a Mac.
This is why I migrated to Linux this year. I started using open source software on Windows to get used to and find anything I needed for alternatives to what I was using before. Then When I was finally comfortable I switched and felt right at home.
Ah yes but my distro is much better than yours. So there.
@@kensmith5694 obligatory Linux welcome committee lol. 👍
@Linden Reaper The comment was a joke aimed at other Linux users.
I did the same thing. Landed on Manjaro
That's why I made the switch from Windows to Linux. I've used Windows my whole life but, Microsoft has become very dictatorial in regards to their OS. Made the switch and never looked back. Get all my work done using libreoffice, sometimes office 365 for good measure from time to time.
I'm running the 21H1 build of Windows 10 on 4 year-old laptop and this sort of behaviour by Microsoft would push me more towards the Chrome OS if Windows 10 was no longer sensible to continue with.
There are applications and upgrades that don't work after these "Feature Updates" and Microsoft doesn't seem to care. especially in gaming circles. I broke my PC's windows update to take manual control over the process and I have no intention of upgrading to give it back to Microsoft.
i upgraded to 11 but i blocked like 95% of all the spyware, plus i made it look like win7
good lord , great video and yes they shouldn't force this, it could really confuse people
It's an absolute joke, Microsoft never disappoint with this kind of stuff
Thank you for that, on that very first message you show, in the bottom right hand corner, how would you close that message without installing it at any time?
Thanku loads,sir,very helpfull indeed
Most welcome
Why not simply disable your CPU's built-in TPM AKA FTPM option in the UEFI/BIOS? My PC has a built in TPM function but it is disabled so I do not get any Windows 11 eligibility messages and therefore as far as Microsoft is concerned, my PC can't run Windows 11.
why not simply install an OS that's meant for humans and not children
@@kirayoshikage4057 because other companies still build around children and not humans sadge (talking about a game I play only running on windows and actively banning vms)
I switched to Linux right before Win 7 end of life and haven't looked back. No regrets.
I'm still on Windows 7
I mean, this is the exact same sort of tactic they used to push Windows 10, so it comes as no surprise. These big companies no longer really respect the customer, and this isn't unique to Microsoft.
brilliant, thank you!!
Can't wait to see what happens when Win10 hits end of life. Good video.
Me to
Honestly I'm glad I don't meet the system requirements. I mean a desktop motherboard from 2010 and a laptop from 2013 won't support TPM 2.0 anyway so I'm out of the question 😉
Same here, but my system runs really well (and fast). Buggered if I'm going to replace the mobo, CPU and memory just because someone tells me Win 11 is a MUST! I shit on their dead parrots.
I messed around in the registry and now I don't have to deal with these stupid windows 11 notifications. Unfortunately that also means that I'm going to be stuck on my current version of Windows 10
THANK YOU for this !
What is so odd about Windows 11 marketing is how different it is from say, Windows 95. People lined up for hours before 95 was available, and many didn't really know what 95 was, but the marketing made them want it, anyway. And they had to buy it. This was the days of a rather small internet, so the marketing was by TV.
Now the internet is huge, with many channels warning the user of many Windows updates, especially 11.And Microsoft is marketing direct to the user. I was on the Insider program for a long time, from Windows 8 and up and got many more updates that the normal user. I always let Microsoft install them. Now and then there would be a minor issue. Once my PC would log me in and then stick on the screen before the desktop. Sometimes took a few reboots.
Even if you get a message with an 11 invite doesn't mean it will install, if Microsoft hasn't done a scan of your PC. I have Windows 11 on 5 out of 6 machines, and only one is fully compatible. I wanted Win 11 on the rest, so I performed the available hacks to get it. I like it. I even installed it on an 11 year old Sony laptop with a spin drive and 4GB of RAM. Once I cloned the drive to an SSD, it is actually reasonably quick, considering the processor.
I have never had a data loss by upgrading to a newer version of Windows, in spite of the number of PCs that have been updated multiple times. The Sony had a massive loss of all Windows user data years ago (Win 7, I think), but I have a feeling the person using it at the time downloaded something bad.
It's because WIndows 95 was completely unlike previous versions of Windows that were basically just a separate addon shell, a more updated version of the dosshell program that had been included previously. It brought a bunch of the stuff that Mac OS had already had, along with new cool features. At this point, there's simply not that much that could be added to any OS that would warrant that. I suppose if somebody gets VR to work properly, that might do it, but the opportunities for that level of excitement are just that much harder to find.
Well, unfortunately, most users don't know what linux is. The majority of people turn on a computer to get work done. While linux distros excell at that and are easier to use than windows these days, there's still one thing missing. Computers that have linux distros preinstalled. Look at what hp is doing now with their dev one laptop, selling it with pop os!
Except still not 100% as good as Windows for PC Gaming last time I checked. Honestly...I could see this backfiring on Windows BIG! Most ESPECIALLY for those doing PC Gaming with more focus and upgrades on Linux Gaming
What the hell does distros mean…???
@@joeeaton2422 "distros" is short for "distributions". I am typing this on a Linux Mint system. That means I got it from them. There are many others out there. Each one comes with what the distributor thinks is the best combination of stuff on top of the basic Linux system. They are all free so you can try out several before settling on the one that fits your needs the best.
Knowing what Linux is, and being comfortable with it, are two different things. The fact is that Linux is NOT easier to use, and depending what you use the computer for you may be making some significant trade offs.
@@sa3270 What i mean is that it doesn't endlessly nag you to fix stuff, like for instance, force updates on you.
Just a question I have Windows 10 now but someday maybe i'll update to Windows 11, and i have in W10 now MPO Disbled and if i update to W11 will MPO settings reset or will my MPO W10 MPO cause any big issues?
Never, ever had this message or any of this kind. My hardware definitely meets requirements for installing W11 but I didn't have to, ever. Notifications are turned off so probably this must be the reason. I really don't understand why notifications should be running on a PC... I never used notifications and I never felt any loss because of it.
I'm an IT pro so I'm not using my PC only for basics, yet I never needed notifications.
Version 20H2 has reached end of service, so you should upgrade to Windows 10 21H2. You don't need to upgrade to Windows 11 (21H2) yet because Windows 10 is supported until 2025
Odd, I have one with 10 21H2 and just got an upgrade shoved in from the updates on it's own today. Now to roll back and remove it from updates. WTF?
@@weseehowcommiegoogleis3770 Linux doesn't give you that much stress.
Normally when I see titles like this one, I choff at it. You're not forced to do it. But that pop up in the corner is inherently designed to mislead you. It doesn't say anything about the update it's trying to install being windows 11. Dirty, dirty trick by MS
Yup they forced my upgrade, charged me $200, refused to give me a product key as it's tied to my account, and then deactivated it when I replaced my fried mobo. Awesome stuff MS.
I tried to update a 1511 system last year, nothing worked except a full clean install of the whole system.
Oh it's Microsoft we all know about them 😂
Nice video Brian
You know it!
Windows back in my days used to be fun to use ..... Not Any More !
I have The latest version of Windows 11 on my PC while having no issues. Why would you want to avoid updates?
I clicked on Pause Updates. The next day I turned on my computer it was updating. It appeared to take control & I couldn't turn it off?
My computer does not meet the requirements for 11. You don't know how glad I am about this. I will very happy to wait till end of service - matter of fact on my last PC I was using XP and 8 months before end of support for it I decided to see how long I could push it. Well finally when no company supported it anymore the OS literally got so corrupt that it literally died rather quickly after more than 2 years. During the last 6 months or so I was putting in at least 25 hours/week keeping it alive. Was it worth it/YES - Would I do it again/NO. The first year was ok but I just kept spending more and more time keeping it alive - at some points towards the end I was putting a solid 25 hours/week(ug). For those that do not update, this is not the best of ideas. I've had this computer for 4 years now and any 10 Pro Update I got was just fine, with minor resseting of text etc. This feature you are explaining does not bode well with me as MS has gone too far trying to push people into 11. 11 is not ready to be available with all of the complaints, bad programming and fixes. MS should have levt well enough alone and just added proven features, perhaps calling the new Updates 10.1 Updates and roll them out slowly when they actually work. 👍 As usual
Windows 11 is the best, no problems whatsoever, it has been ready for a long time.
@@Nick41622 do you enjoy the built in adds? you know ms sold out and will be selling live add space inside of built in windows applications now LOL
@@livingroom.computer No I never see any ads, you are doing something wrong if you see ads.
@livingroom computer You don't have a clue.🤣
@@Nick41622 please do your research. they just haven't activated the paid add space yet. the patents are filed, and the add servers are already setup.
I'm so glad that I stayed with my Win7 Pro, its still being used on a daily basis with no problems ;-)
It's not getting security fixes. With modern attacks, you won't know if you have a problem.
@@alanzoarne6530 It ALL depends on what security scanners you've got in place and running on the machine, I've never personally relied on just the Microsoft security fixes to do the protecting for me ;-)
@@alanzoarne6530 or you can use your brain and problem solved 🤨 why are you so dramatic?
@@plug4uk696 Security scanners are looking for Win 10 flaws. There's no market for improved Win 7 scanners, so no one makes them.
@@alanzoarne6530 Incorrect!! Win 7 security flaws/systems are still been monitored by reputable software companies.
How many problems have you encountered since switching over to your new OS I wonder ?
I personally haven't had ANY problems with running my Win 7 PC 24/7 so I'm either very lucky or I'm in CONTROL of what is allowed to be run on my system unlike Win 10/11 owners ;-)
Also there's no way to skip optional updates and see which ones you want to install. Once you click on check for updates, windows update installs *everything*
You don't get that message unless your computer is compactable for the update, but they sure swap you with updates for Windows 10
Every update is less control over your own computer.
So to all the people who didn't understand why some of us never even switched to Win 8:
This is the reason why. Some of us told you so, and we have been telling you so for YEARS.
Windows 8.1 you still have full control
True .. true and True !! Wow talk about “them,” trying to shove it down your throat !! 😂😂
I’ve got 10-Pro fully updated on my primary (SSD), and machine. However on a separate (Legacy) mechanical drive, I have 11-Pro whereas I swap them out for comparison purposes
Thanks for the very informative video.. as always. Looking for your next video(s). Cheers my friend. !! 🍻 👍👍 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ (p.s. no I have not seen these pop-ups as of yet.)
Have a lovely weekend
Mate, I accidentally updated to Windows 11. Don’t know what to do. Is this called in place upgrade? I want to install Microsoft Flight Simulator. Do I need a fresh Windows 11 installation or the one I have should be good?
Thank you for sharing this tutorial
All of or most of my steam games working on Linux can't come soon enough. Come on Steam OS!!
More telemetry is all I see. Upgrade so Microsoft can get more data from that they can't get from 10. If this was on Windows 7 or 8 I can understand, but Windows 10 is good until 2025/6. So there's no reason except shady practices.
Is it possible to do a vm?
@@basilcat3111 You might be able to buy not sure. Steam OS isn't out yet so I guess you can try when it releases.
Sounds like a wonderful time for people to experiment with Linux. Recommend Mint or Ubuntu for newcomers. Its very easy to play with without committing to a full transition if you want to test it out first. There are plenty of guides on how to set up these Operating Systems on Virtual Box and see if its a good fit for you. Thank you for the informative video Britec.
Yeah, my tower is not only not compatible for windows 11, my pc refuses to fully take the 21H2 update, goes through the whole process of trying to install anyways, then fails and uninstalls what it did.
Thank you for the talking about the Windows 10 users forced to upgrade to Windows 11.