How Justin Herbert Proved Everybody (Me) Absolutely Wrong
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2021
- Justin Herbert proved me absolutely wrong.
Last year’s episode on Justin Herbert: • Justin Herbert is the ...
This week’s film breakdown analyzes Los Angeles Chargers Quarterback Justin Herbert. Last year coming out of Oregon, I scouted Herbert and predicted he was going to be a bust, but.. boy was I wrong. After Herbert broke rookie records and won the NFL’s offensive rookie of the year, I wanted to dissect where and why my evaluation went so wrong. This episode uses the all-22 coaches film to analyze Los Angeles Chargers Quarterback Justin Herbert.
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Last year’s episode on Justin Herbert: ruclips.net/video/5Qj_TIx1FuA/видео.html
All the more reason why I love your videos. You're not afraid to admit you totally got it wrong and show why. Hats off to you Alex. Keep up the great videos
@@grodstose not sure if you're aware but football is a team sport. You aren't going to win many games if your offensive line is trash and your defense doesn't do much to help. Not to mention any injuries they might've incurred. You can't go by the win/loss column to tell whether or not 1 particular player is good or not
@@grodstose tom brady isn't given more money than everybody on his team it's the recivers ,it's the linebackers the RB's Tom brady is getting million dollar 1 or two years that's small compared to Antonio brown who got 6 mill for 1 year and Justin Herbert was in his ROKKIE year and he did amazing so what's to say that he's overrated tell me
The draft is not an exact science. Even the so call experts (i.e. Kiper, Mcshay) have some head scratching type of evaluations that leave me wondering "what the heck were they thinking". I also didn't see JH notching the OROTY award. What evaluators can't see is inside the players heart and see their work ethic, determination or the drive to become the very best they can be. For every Justin Herbert or Tom Brady you get a JaMarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf. You just never know!
@@grodstose the bucs weren't a horrible team to begin with though, they were 7-9 in 2019 with Winston. They added Brady, Gronk, Brown, drafted Wirfs etc. While Brady is the GOAT, he didn't do it all alone.
We should have known herbert was good when the team doctor was willing to kill Tyrod Taylor.
@Justin Herbert fake me smh
Lol yo I'm so confused right now
Yea the I hear the Doc was charged with "Premeditated Herbert". Sentenced to 3 years 150k to the New England Patriots to stab Cam Newton.
Lol oh man Iam trying to take a dump here and you’re not making it easy for me.
Emperor Justinian, will wreak havoc on the NFL, with his rowdy band of Super Chargers, following in tow. SB or Bust!!!
I’m appreciative of everyone that’s admitting how they were wrong about my boy
@@grodstose they also had a smooth brained head coach that threw about 5 of those 9 lost games... and that’s not a metric of success lmao RG3 made the playoff his rookie year ? what does that mean to his ability ? fucking idiot
@@grodstose i’m sorry what? so does that mean since deshaun watson only won 4 games and daniel jones won 6 does that mean jones is better? herbert was playing under anthony lynn, do u know how many blown leads they had this season? and that defense is injured af. the quarterback position is important, but you can’t compare QBs based on wins
@@grodstose So apparently Mitch Trubisky is better than Jimmy Garoppolo? That's what you're inferring
@@grodstose Okay, but Rex Grossman won 13 games in 2006. You're saying his 2006 season was just as good as Pat Mahomes this year?
@@grodstose Like, just take a minute to let that settle. Maybe then you'll see how weak of a point that was
At least Alex Rollins was willing to make an apology video after he got his prediction wrong.
@@grodstose deashaun went 4-12 and everyone knows he’s elite u don’t make sense
@@grodstose so by your logic Jared Goff is a top 5 qb?
@@grodstose go to sleep kid
@@grodstose Didn’t Aaron Rodgers go 6-9-1 one year guess He not a Hall of Famer see how bad that logic is
@@grodstose what?! He broke every rookie record and had like 36 touchdowns in the worst O-Line in the league with a mediocre coach. And he was the most pressured besides Daniel Jones.
The biggest element from Herbert's Oregon tape that was largely ignored by analysts pre-draft was the total lack of receiving talent at his disposal. There wasn't a single draft-calibre WR in Herbert's senior year, yet he still put up excellent numbers across the board and led his team to the Rose Bowl.
Max Browne made a really great point that his lack of receiving talent at Oregon is what forced him to hone his skills to be able to make those tight window throws. He didn't have the benefit of throwing to wide open guys all season.
The starting wideouts got hurt his senior year so he was playing with backups who couldn't catch covid. Definitely hurt his production and didn't show his true talent and potential.
@@bmdub yeah the QBs from Alabama have had it easy throwing to all those 1st round recievers. Someone would always be wide open making their job easy.
@@clownindan Could you imagine if you swapped tua and Herbert's respective teams? I think it's very likely lsu doesn't win the championship and it's another runaway year for bama with herbie winning the Heisman. Shit just get Moorehead to Oregon one year sooner to give herbert a competent offense and it would be a night and day difference. Obviously too many people be scouting the team and not the player.
@@bmdub herbert would have put up madden numbers if he was throwing to the bama wideouts.
Herbert with an improved O-line will be scary.
And they added a few weapons in the draft. I really think josh palmer is going to be a stud and 3rd round steal. If mckitty can add production they got a stout offense.
their O-line should be much better this season, barring anything catastrophic happening before the season
Indeed he is
@@justindeleon10102 years later and he's still one of the most hit qbs 😭
@@aaronsams8605 yeah, the Chargers always seem to either have O-Line injuries or just poor O-Line play in general. Hoping that changes with Harbaugh. But that said, I still think the chargers really need to go WR in the first round, especially after losing both Keenan Allen and Mike Williams.
Those crazy physically gifted qbs with work ethic are top tier
This a blanket statement which is completely wrong. Herbert is more the exception in the rule
@@mroverdose14 not really...Cam Newton and Josh Allen plus herbert
@@Kazaam818 You really want me to create a list of talented players with work ethic that failed?!
It would take the entire day just to type it
Shit Brady and bress that lacked talent (physical talent) were probably the best QBs of the last 2 or 3 decades.
@@mroverdose14 not done yet? We waiting
Massive respect for revisiting your previous Herbert video and admitting where you went wrong.
lol literally right after he got drafted I talked SOOOOO much shit as a broncos fan and now look at us and look at the chargers 😭😂😭😭 KILL me lmfaooooo
You and me both bro 😂 good for JH!
Dumb ass
Hey don't give up on drew lock.... saying this as a charger fan :)
@@clownindan saying this also as a charger fan I would suggest the Broncos going for a play on a rod since he says he wants out of Green Bay and Broncos got a good amount of draft capital so would be a good play
I wanna start by saying I'm a Chargers fan. I don't think Lock is the long term answer for the Broncos, but I think he can get better than he currently is. I fully expected the Broncos to draft Justin Fields to replace Lock, and was very surprised when they went defense in the first round.
As an Oregon fan , it felt amazing to see Herbert flourish so well when so many doubted him , I’m not really a chargers fan but they can be the 2nd favorite team 😂
New coaching staff ayee
We've been waiting on this one ladies and gents.
3:19 shows how bad the chargers o line was too. Max protect 7, Chiefs rush with just 4 and they still instantly get pressure
I was waiting for your apology video 😂😂
A lot of people were 😂
I love that you accept your mistake and tell us why you thought that. You make my Saturday morning better. Keep it up!!
Appreciate it Jorge!! Just calling it like I see it
Major props for adjusting and making changes with new information. You’re the man
Thanks Matej!
thanks for explaining the intricate technical details in an easy-to-understand way. loving the channel
Thanks brother!
Man, I was waiting for you to post this the entire year. Props to you for owning up to your mistakes and learning to be a better evaluator.
Not everyone has the guts to admit their own mistakes. Massive respect.
Appreciate that bro!!
Immediately knew he was special when I played against him in high school. Hopefully he’ll have a long successful career.
Hats off to Herbert. I didn't believe in him either, but the improvement he showed from college to the pros is simply astounding. He made absolutely insane leaps mentally, and I think getting him out of that limiting scheme helped him too. The Oregon offense was so built around screens that it became easy to think that they didn't trust the guy to do much else. But as it turns out, he could. And hats off to the Chargers coaching staff too, who had him ready so early. Both them and Herbert himself made this happen, so all credit in the world to them for that.
I still don't really disagree with my own opinion of him coming out, because his college tape truly was all over the place, riddled with basic errors, weird mechanics and baffling throws, in addition to the amazing throws. Now he's cut down dramatically on the mistakes, cleaned up his release so he doesn't skymail as many throws, and he's processing things quickly and effectively. Amazing progress from him. Again, I'm just incredibly impressed by the progress he made between the end of the college season and the start of the NFL season. Night and day.
Oregon O want built around screens. Get a clue
The off the field character: Herbert's academic success and mentoring others. Dedicated to learning.
Head coach shuffle: dealing with a new system every year and the new coach's learning curve and still excelling.
Being able to admit when you’re wrong. Good man.
U a real one for accepting this, everyone makes mistakes but only few admit it
See PFF...
As a bolt fan thank you for this vid alex
I’m new to this channel. I’m a huge Chargers fan. I got to say. This was a very well put together explanation and break down of several different plays. Great editing skills as well. I’m not familiar with you but you seem more educated in this field and better spoken about the NFL than most of the guys I watch on tv who talk about this great sport. Great work! As a Chargers, fan, I am hoping against all hope that he doesn’t become a one hit wonder. I don’t think he will but other Chargers fans know our luck in the past with anything that seems to be a for sure thing.
Appreciate that BR! I think there's cause for concern not because of Herbert's ability, but the recent historical precedent of young QB's having great rookie seasons and then regressing (RG3, Baker). I'm not worried about Herbert though, Chargers fans like yourself should be stoked!
I love the fact that you are openly owning up to your mistake. I was quite suprised that Herbert dominated since I usually trust your evaluation a lot. I'm so happy for Justin though. Chargers fans should be thrilled. Also, are you glad that your 49ers decided to take Trey Lance? I personally believe that the whole Mac Jones thing was just a big smoke screen.
Thanks T! I was too, but like you said, happy for JH 100%. I thought it was going to be Fields all along.. I think Mike Lombardi is a very credible source and he said he heard everyone 49ers wanted Mac, so idk. I like that they took Lance over Jones, but I think he's the biggest project of the top 5 QBs with arguably the most upside. Give him time to sit and learn and I like the pick
thanks for owning up on this! Go BOLTS!
Hindsight is 20/20. To be fair, in your original video you came to a logical (albeit wrong) hypothesis based on the evidence you had at the time. I wouldn't have gone so far as to call him a bust, but I certainly didn't see him being this good at any point during his career, let alone his second year. And as a Raiders fan, that really sucks.
Thanks Marty! Looking back on the original piece there were aspects of my analysis that were still true, but the overall take was obviously horrible. I've learned a lot from it and have used it to grow, all I can do!
He proved me wrong too. The tape didn't show he could be as good as he is
I agree with this
Going back and watching his film still shocks me, he was inconsistent at everything. Kid works his ass off to get better and he did
you would’ve had to have watched his entire career to get an accurate display of his game, not just select games and clips.
@@dmor9717 it was hard to tell, he never really got to sling it in that Oregon offense. Christobal and arroyo didn’t use him properly, having him run screen plays, and dump offs to the rb.
@@Numbers21589302 they didn’t let him rip it a lot but he had a good amount of quality throws downfield. he wasn’t a heisman contender heading into his junior year for no reason.
WOW!! I knew he was pressured a lot but 58% of the time vs the Bucs is insane, he was never phased, by the time the last game of the season came around he seemed like a ten year vet the way he controlled the offense and team
I don't know what he did but he improved his pocket presence dramatically since college. He really looked like a solid vet out there
Life is about learning, and those who can will go far. Enjoyed the video, thank you!
Appreciate it bro!!
@@AlexRollinsNFL keep them coming, all the best from New Zealand 🇳🇿
It’s so rare to see people admitting to their mistakes, most people just push through and act like they got nothing wrong.
IE: Rob Parker taking about TB falling off a cliff
Thank you for owning up to it. Props my man. Seriously
Follow up videos like this are another reason why you are so great Alex. Appreciated.
Thank you Paul! Gotta keep it real!
Ay man! Thank you for saying the truth and he proved you wrong! Love your content man.
Appreciate that bro!
I liked him more than Tua and my friends called me stupid. That Chiefs I knew he was special.
Big respect to anyone who is willing to admit they were wrong, and look at why.
Alex, it takes a big man to admit when they are wrong. I too was wrong about Herbie, the man is balling out. Subbed!
Much respect to you Alex 👍🏽⚡⚡
Thanks for analyzing how he improved and adapted to the NFL. I am sure the Chargers were high on him and shipped out Rivers.
I am so glad my request finally came through!
Been waiting on this. Now I can start watching your content again.
It feels good to know that when it comes down to QB vs QB as the X-factor most Sundays... we got our guy ⚡️🆙
Congrats!
Go Bolts! great vid :)
NEVER CLICKED SO FAST IN MY LIFE!!! AlexRollins with legendary commentary and great analysis. Big props to you for being collected and critical of your content. Subbed!
Thanks brother!! Keepin it 💯 at all times no matter what
I'm a Raider fan who thought he was going to be a massive bust.
I'm not even mad, good for him.
Same and same!
As a Charger fan, many videos like this made me not want Herbert. Now, looking back after his historic rookie season, I watch these videos with the joy of knowing how wrong we were. Herbert is my guy!
Go Bolts!
Bro me too I wasn’t even happy when we got him I wanted to trade back and get Jordon Love 🤦🏻 I would have been fired
Finally. Props for making the update video
Alex man I’ve learned so much from you it’s crazy. Been watching your channel for 2 years now. I talk to my friends all the time about different formations, plays etc. Keep doing what you do Alex much love fam!
I love to hear that Will! Thanks for rocking with me man!
And with that, SOS, Brett, and Alex have all admitted to being wrong. All is right with the world.
Where did Brett admit to it?
@@jackpabich763 I heard it was in a podcast, but I remember in one video he talked about how being an analyst isn't easy, and mentioned Herbert as one of his misses. I think it was where he talked about how he thinks he cursed the Chiefs by praising them.
@@napalmblaziken Ah. Okay. Thanks! just because I didn't see a dedicated video about it
Ive seen brett on reddit openly saying he really messed up his analysis on herbert. He also said it changed the way he now evaluates qbs looking at their coaching and receiver talent.
The kid is truly amazing and fun to watch. Yes, he has a bullet arm, or a canon arm, but man, that sucker has a built in radar for those missiles he throws. Talk about accurate. Dang. He’ll be near impossible to beat with a few more years under his belt and he starts calling his own plays. That’s scary right there.
Finesse and touch. DARKE may me gonna be a monster
I think us Chargers fans need a formal apology for that hit piece you made on Herbs last year.
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Most Chargers fan wanted Tua or Simmons drafted. no lies.
Lawrence Alejandro not me I’m a Bama fan & knew tua was a system qb
@@marncyn Not this Chargers fan ! My brother a Chiefs fan put me onto Justin , way before the draft ! I watched his high lights , Bowl win , Senior Bowl play & he looked way { BETTER } then ANY QB at the combine & I was hooked , all we NEEDED was for the Dolphins to help us out & BOY did they ....LOL ? PS this is our teams 2nk Duck QB we have taken & if he winds up were the 1st one is , then WE got another HOFer , but , only time will tell & a ROTY winner , a HOFer doesn't make !
you're a real one for this Alex
What truly AMAZED me about Justin Herbert was his ability to stay cool when he would ball out and either put the team in a position to win or put em up enough where a comeback was unlikely ONLY for both to happen week in and week out. Missed FG’s, freak plays, bad coaching…Herbert stayed cool when so many QB’s rookie or vet would flip out. Imagine if Aaron Rogers was on the Chargers last season….dude he called his teammates out few seasons ago because they weren’t stepping up thus costing games lol!! This was on another level. Even Herbert’s head coach made it known that he hadn’t earned a starting role until he was forced to because of how insanely well he was playing. It was messed up how the Dr’s cost Taylor’s starting job BUT it is NOT Herberts fault for coming in and balling out.
Been looking for this video ever since you told me it'd be around draft time in the other Justin Herbert video. Nice.
I've always valued work ethic as one of the top QB (or really any position) traits. 90% of busts are either work ethic problems or tragic injuries. Cant really guard against the latter. If the player is willing to work really hard to get better, and if they are really devoted, they will get better.
Hindsight is 20/20, they say😅 happy that he worked out though!
Ayyyye it finally came! Been lookin forward to this one for months
That Keenan pass against the chiefs with a second and a half to throw it is still his best pass and proved INSTANTLY that Herbie was on another level. Unreal throw.⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
He makes throws that only Rodgers mahomes and maybe josh Allen can make. I remember he threw a pass to Keenan Allen against the jets on a broken play, he had a split second to fit the ball in a window that wasn’t there but saw Keenan break back and I swear it was picked, but it got there so quick and next thing you know Keenan has it. Insane arm talent and processing, especially for a rookie.
@@Numbers21589302 that ball sounded like a cannon hitting Keenan on the numbers.
Facts!
Nice to see everyone spin a 180 for my guy. Like I said on your last year vid, hes the best qb in that draft class and dont fault the player for a system he plays in.
Good stuff and always good to see and when we ALL admit our mistakes he was a difficult evaluation
One thing that I noticed when he was playing at Oregon is that his passing was too hot and hard for the calibre of receivers there in after they lost their top receivers. After half the passes were being dropped, the had him "turn down" his arm...And his accuracy and confidence suffered for it. There were a lot of problems with the Oregon offense..... Herbert wasn't able to drive there. He actually appeared to decline, but that wasn't because of him.
I remember before the draft looking into who the chargers were going to draft and seeing his name come up more often than not, and looking into him I was excited to be getting such a talented young quarterback. Of course my brother, who arguably is way more into stats than I am, was not pleased as he said “all Oregon quarterbacks turn out to be busts” but I had a gut feeling this guy was going to be our quarterback, that he was gonna bring the chargers into a better and more competitive place even if it took time.
And he beat any expectation I had, he’s a beast and I genuinely cannot wait to see just how much better he is by the end of this year, or in 5 years. Sooner of later the majority of the nfl will give him the props he deserves like they did to Mahomes.
Excellent video
Thanks brother! Congrats on your guy, he looks.. pretty dam good
Honestly no one saw what Herbert would become bit Herbert . Proud that he’s my teams QB
great vid alex love the non biased non bitter analysis
I appreciate that Traina! I'm gonna call it like I see it no matter what 💯
this is the Apology we needed
I wasn't sure about any one not named philip rivers leading the team, but I was sold after the KC game. His only rookie mistake was throwing that deep pick rather than just running for the first down, but his confidence that he could make the throw says a lot about his mentality.
Yup. Buck da Boltz, baby
Absolutely awesome. Great content every week
Thank you Jaden!!
I waited on this video for so long thanks for making it great job
Wow a journalist that owns up to a wrong take ? Amazing 👏
Alex, that’s why we respect you man. You keep it real. Keep up the good work. Drafting a QB has more to do with fit and what the OC can do to make you great, than just great talent. Look at Brian Daboll and Josh Allen
Amazing video! I loved all the the plays that you broke down; Herbert's the real deal!
Appreciate it Ryan!
he finally did it!! respect
Have been waiting for this video
Great video!
Yesssirrrr, been waiting for this one
I was wrong about Herbert as well but as a Chargers fan I’m so happy I was wrong.
At the end of the day y'all are winning!
awesome video man
Alright man good job, I have to respect the class. Bolt up brotha #Just10
scary thing for the league is he might not be fully developed yet and the chargers are improving their offensive line and got a new coach.
Add to that this year I believe the chargers have Super Bowl upside in my mind. An la bowl between the chargers and rams might happen really it’s a hot take but I have an la bowl in the big game as my early super bowl prediction
@@ariswerdlow1411 the battle for la superbowl would be pretty damn cool.
@@clownindan oh yeah
Great comeback big dawg
glad you ran this back turbo
Another W episode. Appreciate you !!
Much love as always JT!
As a chargers fan this is the happiest I've been in years 🙏
Congrats!
Went to a Ducks game with my son. Coach only let HERBERT throw the ball 3 times in the 1st half. Mario Cristibol just wanted to run the ball. He had no idea how to use a great quarterback like HERBERT. Miami thinks they are getting a great coach. They will be very disappointed.
I cannot lie, I've been WAITING for this one 😭🔥
Nailed the outro alex
Thoughts on his performance this season? Maybe a part three Vid 👀 Love the breakdowns keep up the great work
Thanks JJ! Definitely got to do a part 3 video, dude is playing out of his mind
I actually said Herbert would be the best QB from the class
Thank you for this ⚡
Sure thing Kijonnae!
@@ramenlover1727 I messed up by only watching games from his Senior season, so perhaps a more thorough evaluation (hard when I only have a week to put out an episode) would have helped show some more of his strengths. I am still surprised that the same QB from that senior year has turned into somebody THIS good
Thank you for this.
Probably helped that once he went from being a student athlete to a pro athlete, Herbert could use all of his brain power to focus on football as he was getting top marks in his classes at Oregon which took out a lot of time and energy that most players would use to study film and do any extra off field workouts.
OROTY BABY BOLT GANG Just had a helluva draft too😈⚡️‼️💯
I absolutely did not like the Herbert pick. He proved me wrong like it was personal. The o-line looks vastly improved this year so hopefully he progresses with his in pocket presence and mechanics. And the run game should also be much better because of the o-line which will hopefully also help (obviously).
My 2nd fav team , after packers .. Hope herbert improve next season and chargers have a great season . Go Bolts
My new favorite quarterback since Dan Fouts! Justin Herbert is the real deal! Can’t wait to get the Herbert NFL jersey in Royal Blue! ⚡️✌️🇺🇸⚡️👍
Idk y everyone thought he was gunna suck I felt he was gunna be gud but he was still better than my expectations.
I thought he would be really good but after a year or so riding the bench. I never expected him to jump right in and play so well his rookie year.
Who's everyone?
Well, unlike most youtubers, he actually said he was wrong, and I can appreciate that, that is a sign of a real man
Appreciate it Gavin!
@@AlexRollinsNFL we meet again…
I can not stop saying this, Alex your videos are the GOAT. Do you work with the NFL? and if you don't. The NFL is missing out. Geart video.
Thanks Cristian! I'm a one man team and I'm on a mission!
I called it!! I felt that most projected 1 picks overall have a down season due to pressure. Similar to a sophomore slump.
This is a nice video to watch. I saw every game he played at Oregon ,and even went to a game at autzen where he started. I had a ton of belief in his ability, and even I didn't see him being this food so fast. As much as I love Oregon, that university doesn't have clue 1 of how to get the best out of each qb they have , and his draft status suffered because of it . But people should have realized he had the intelligence to process defenses just by talking to him and know how elite academically he was/is. Your video was video 1 of the fodder people threw shade at as the top hater of him lol. So super good on you to not only accept the whif, but show why and show how it's made you better at your job because of it. Good stuff man!