@@stoicodysseys6352 Glad you got results, but from the sound of it, that could be either placebo effect or something else you were doing, this is pretty damning for turkesterone.
I was thinking the same thing. he's probably not gonna bring it up at all. funny too since earlier Greg always used to favor the evidence base until this supplement showed up. completely switched his approach.
@@Xelbiuj Why does it matter what his physique looks like? Either he was being dishonest about what was in the supplements he was selling or he wasn't, the physical appearance of PictureFit has no bearing on that.
Its great how I became the face of Turkesterone even though Derek brought it to market. We all sold Turkesterone which passed all FDA required testing. It was later discovered using more sophistical testing using a mass spectrometer (which the FDA does not use) that rather than turkesterone it was in fact other Ecdysteroids which where in the product which are very similar in structure to Turkesterone. I and me then changed the label to better reflect whats in the bottle and never hid these facts or tried to cover it up. I never see anyone mention any of the other 100 or so companies who sold Turkesterone other then me and sometimes Derek. The 10’s of thousands of repeat buyers can attest that the product which contains ecdysteroids do in fact work. It’s kind of like this if you had been eating mackerel for a year straight and enjoyed it. It tasted good it had protein in it and we’re happy with the results and then a year later you found out that the mackeral was actually halibut and still tasted good and had protein in it that would be a similar comparison to what happened here. I mean I get it it’s so easy to hate on the people that sold it even though it’s not the people who sold it’s fault in the slightest because everything was tested third-party by the FDA required lab testing. But it makes for a way cooler story to say that Greg is such a horrible human being that he secretly was trying to scam out the audience to buy something that was like consuming dirt when in reality the product was amazing but the FDA never had the proper testing to see what was in it. There are so many different at the steroids and it’s going to take years to find out the best combination in dosing to yield the best results. But I can promise you 100% that I never lied about anything I never tried to trick anybody about anything and as soon as we found out we literally switch the labels on the bottles and that was 30,000 of those bottles that had to be relabelled because me and my company are as honest as any company you’ll ever find. Of course I expect a flood of hate messages here but that’s to be expected and I am OK with it and feel free to shit on me as much as you want because obviously it’s going to make you feel better because in general people rather see successful people go down then try to understand what actually happened and respect a person for being honest about it. I do think it’s absolutely amazing that I get to be the face of turkesterone even though I never discovered it and there’s more famous people than me who are selling it who do people don’t even mention and so I clearly did something right and was honest the entire time and so I have zero difficulty sleeping at night because I know I am not Trying to deceive anyone
lol no one is jealous of you succeeding your a legal scammer you deserve to be robbed of all your money hes exposing you for charging for something that doesn't work
Lol, you rip people off. You're a scammer it doesn't work, and you know it. Hopefully, yougo bankrupt 60 bucks for 20 servings of protein plus shipping insanity
One of the things that is not answered by "it depends". Even if it could be proven to have some anbolic effects, it is not yet proven as of the present. Also, interestingly, a placebo like this is nowhere near as toxic as SARMS/steroids.
@@cadestrum I do agree it's not. But let's be real. These companies are making big bucks from selling snake oil, so for sure they will care about being exposed. At the very least, they will get the video demonetized, when it generates the most revenue. Then you have to deal with the legal notifications and whatnot... Picture bro ain't got time for that, unlike the legal team of big supplement companies.
the study doesn't specify the names of the products did some digging to find where they searched for the products and it looks like these are the 10 in the study Turkesterone Swole AF Turkesterone Wellness Primal Turkesterone+ HUMANX Turkesterone 500 mg S5 Supplement Labs Turkesterone 500 mg Gorilla Mind Turkesterone 500 mg Justified Laboratories Turkesterone Max 500 mg Justified Laboratories Turkesterone Max 500 mg Justified Laboratories Turkesterone Growth Stack Nutra Innovations Turkesterone & Tongkat Ali HUMANX
Yeah, but I’ve been taking it months and noticed decreased strength and endurance in the gym across all lifts as have 100 of my friends who have also took it in my advice
I never bought turk but I can't blame the fitness RUclipsrs for selling them. They aren't scientists. They just took data backed by other scientists and tried to make a supplement helpful for the public. Science changes all the time and many modern practices are way more unethical than this. So good for them for trying.
Turkesterone does have some mechanistic data behind it though (although i'm not sure how strong that is specifically) so i think that this is just a massively underdosed supplement that could be beneficial but it would simply be too expensive if dosed properly. Any thoughts about that? I've always believed that it does something, and still do but i don't think we have enough data that suggests your body just poops/pees it out and has extactly 0 interactions in a human.
I've been working out for 8 years straight, and decided to try Turkesterone my self 1 month ago. And tbh the progress ive made the last month is ridicilous (for a natty). Its almost like im getting newbie gains again. It may very well be placebo, and probably is - but who cares ive gained about as much strength the last month as i have the rest of this year.
Same. 8 years working out natty. Now, in my case, I'm stacking Turk with Tongkat Ali and Fadogia. So, I don't know if Turk by itself may be doing anything, or if the other supps are.. but one thing is for sure. Massive focus, aggression in the gym, and weirdly horny after the 2 week mark.
@Annoye Pls stop talking ur small asf🙏🏻. It does work it just depends how you respond to it, just like ibuta you can respond well or shit to it. Pls dont say anything with 0 personal experience.
A lot of the data commonly cited for Turk is actually ecdysterone. Since they are in the same family, some use them almost interchangeably. That said, the data is also uncompelling for ecdysterone,
Eh. The evidence is weak and inconsistent, but not totally non-existent. fore example, 'Significantly higher increases in muscle mass were observed in those participants that were dosed with ecdysterone. The same hypertrophic effects were also detected in vitro in C2C12 myotubes. Even more relevant with respect to sports performance, significantly more pronounced increases in one-repetition bench press performance were observed. No increase in biomarkers for liver or kidney toxicity was noticed. These data underline the effectivity of an ecdysterone supplementation with respect to sports performance." pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31123801/
You forgot to mention that the turkesterone, which is advertised on these products, appears to actually be ecdysterone, which might actually have some anabolic activity...
While I dont buy or condone Turkesterone, MPMD (DEREK) has said from the outset that he wasnt even sure if it had any effect and may in-fact have NO effect on muscle building HOWEVER, he felt like he'd seen a noticable difference BUT QUICKLY ADDED it could very well be psychological. He started selling to make it easier for anybody else wanting to try it but he kept up his video with said warning. Greg Doucette, MSc however was not so open about it and was pushing it hard. Then other "influencers" jumped on the bandwagon. Doucette (and now Nalewanyj) hopping on the supp bandwagon has really put me off subsribing to these guys. I still watch Sean's vid.s from time to time but Doucette definately lost a subscriber in me (so did mpmd but thats bc of his relentless "interviews" giving credence the ramblings of Dan Bilzerian and Joe Rogan) :/
If this blows up your comment replies, or makes PictureFit delete it because he might (understandably) not want anything political in his comment section, I apologise, but: Just wanted to say that it's nice (and unusual) to see a fellow fitness enthusiast who's a leftie like me (at least going by your subscriptions, many of which I share). It rarely happens so I just wanted to shout it out!
No for two reasons 1# the amount of ecdysteroid in general found in plants is so small you would need to destroy hundreds of pounds of plant material in order to get milligrams.. The cost per dose would be staggering. 2# You're not a plant so even if there was anything in there it wouldn't help you
@@joshuasharrock466 according to Taha-Salaime et al 2019, Ajuga plants can content 10mg/g fresh weight (roughly equal 100mglg dry weight). This is already within the relevent dosage. Plants certain can contain relevant amounts of compounds that may affect human metabolism. For instance, several meta analyses found soy isoflavones also activate estrogen receptor beta to decrease bone loss in elderly population
@@joshuasharrock466 "2# You're not a plant so even if there was anything in there it wouldn't help you" Not saying plant based supplements work..but your logic here is beyond flawed. You literally digest and absorb life sustaining simple polysaccharides and nutrients from plants..try not being retarded.
Not for everyone, everyone's experience varies. For me, 3-4 days of Turkesterone 1000 mg (2 pills) (gorillamind or doublewood brands) gave me 5 lbs max more on top of bench-press, 2 more reps, recovery down to 2-3 days, a bit of motivation. I do not have to cycle because it's only half a week. Yes, i did blood work as well, got 100 ng/dl more. Worked for me, not sure if it works for others.
It's not even supposed to increase testosterone levels. It's supposed to interact with estrogen receptors. That being said, you got results because of your hard work, sleeping habits and good nutrition. The turkesterone did nothing.
Hello I always watch your videos... Can you make a quick video for working out for night shift schedule at work.. I always work out after night shift work.. Is it okay?
Didn't you say that one study in 2006 said there is no effect while one in 2019 said there is a substaintial effect on performance and size? And that we generally just need more data to decide if there are real benefits from turkesterone? Then why are you blatantly saying there are no benefits to it at all? Isn't that a bold statement from a guy that goes by the data?
It was later found in the 2019 study that the supplement they tested had almost no ecdysterone in it at all. This is a good reminder that a lot of studies are steaming hot garbage.
More research will always be great, but doesn't mean I won't call it for what it has been the past few years. Neither the the 2006 nor 2019 study gave us info on Turk itself since both investigated a different ecdy. Turk data has never been there and now that the hype is virtually dead, I doubt any resources will be spent on investigating it outside of any ongoing research (which of course if available, I'll be sure to cover). Check back in 10 years when the ecdy hype kicks back up.
Ironically, the only way one could "believe" it works are the ones who believed a RUclips video, because there's factually no evidence out there at the moment to show it does anything whatsoever 😂🤝🏾.
Well, I'll take the placebo effect then. When I've tried turkesterone as a powder (tastes horrible) and capsule, I've gotten noticeable strength gains that I've been able to also mostly keep after the cycle. Might as well gotten them without the turkesterone, but I'm talking about 10-30% depending on the exercise. I can't say about the muscle size.
Quinoa has ecdysterone in it naturally.. atleast you know youre getting actual ecdysterone... 2 raw ozs of it per day shoukd give ypu enough ecdy to see results. Im on day 5 of eating quinoa everyday.. hopefully I should see some improvements
I bought some from more plates more dates and I’ll leave a review after one month. I know the controversy with this supplement and it is a hit or miss with people but I’ll be transparent when I’m back after a month.
hey bro, ive been running turk for awhile and its been pretty good for me, im about to add ecdy. Tell me how your cycle goes bro. I also dont know why this supplement is controversial either since it DOES work it just depends on if your a good or bad responder.
@@VOYD733 yea it’s working after a week of taking it I broke PRs. I added Tongkat Ali and fadogia agrestis as well and I’ve been hitting every workout harder than I ever had in my life and I’m rarely ever sore for longer than a day sometimes I’m not sore at all. I’ve gotten bigger too but that could be the creatine. I overloaded for a week and got swole. Regardless of gains, I have so much more energy, focus motivation and I got so much stronger from that stack. Highly recommend.
Picture fit, can you make a video on tongkat ali and fadogia agrestis. I was planning to buy them but saw a ton of negative and an equal amount of positive coverage about it. The min amount thats available in amazon is a 3 months supply so i cant even try this myself to check of it works for me
curious, what about HTLT supps ectybuilder that claims to of infused ectybuilder synthesis with turktesterone, reason for the this is that turk is useless by itself anyway, was extremely curious if you've tested this out
My understanding of the current state of the evidence: - due to supplements not being regulated, you're probably not getting any ecdysteroids in your capsules - the very limited evidence for ecdysteroids having any effects in humans is weak and seems to support either a complex of ecdysteroids or some other ecdysteroid(s) as being responsible for any effect they might have, rather than turkesterone specifically -what effects seem to show up in studies are inconsistent across studies and quite small, being neither significant nor statistically significant in the overwhelming majority of studies - most studies have been of poor quality In summary, there's little to know evidence and no strong evidence for either efficacy or significant side effects from turkesterone or other ecdysteroids in humans.
But the real supplement exists? Does it work? An influencer i trust who wasnt trying to push a specific brand said it does IF you actually get the real stuff
@@austinmartin9099 Its completley dependant on individual responses, Worked great for me and im about to add ecdy, Infact, when paired with ecdy, the results can be comparable to a low dose of anavar (If you respond well to it)
I advise you to try it and if it doesnt work then stop running it so that you can save money, for me it worked very well and im going to add ecdysterone. If you do notice anything, then feel free to do what ever you want. Turkesterone does infact work, just depends if you respond good or bad to it.
3:00 I want to take your word for it based on this thing called "trust" - however, when the premise is "these influencers lied to you", yet you refer to us as your "good friends" while informing on how to spend money. Huge, blazing red flag right there. We're not your friends. Just watching and enjoying someone's content does not substitute a functional relationship with a friend. You are a source of information on the internet, and have not earned the title of friend with anyone here for this.
Woah super butthurt man is butthurt, who cares if he’s not a ‘friend’ does little to harm the veracity of the information, why are you focusing on this tangent?
So you're SAYING that in the Study that NONE of the pills had Turkesterone or much less than they said they did? Well,.Then you aren't really doing a Turkesterone TEST 🙄~ Epic FAIL~
What about the eck (eckysteroid) something that's in some of the influencers snake oil mixes? Was that tested also? Supposedly these snake oil products were mixed with a bunch of similar things at all are supposed to enhance your bodybuilding efforts.
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No coach greg were harmed during the filming of this video
Literally unsubcribed because of his grifting for Turkesterone
Biggest scammer in the last 10 years
He will be lying Harder Than Last Time!
6 pounds of muscles gained
I’ve tried Greg’s protein powder. Holy fk most disgusting powder I’ve ever taken. Sand.
Send this video to Greg Doucette
You can't imagine how much I hate Greg, always hating on everyone and crying with his annoying voice.
I'm sure he'll try to perform some mental gymnastics to still peddle his snake oil to suckers
@@drissmounir6503he’s not that that bad
He’s teo years -bucking behin d!
I dont need people screaming in my face thank you.
I’m glad I follow fitness RUclipsrs who keep me in the know with all the garbage supplements out there.
This sounded too good to be true from the get go. Especially since Greg decided to make it his own product. 🤪
Nah. This guy's wrong. It worked great for me
@@stoicodysseys6352 Glad you got results, but from the sound of it, that could be either placebo effect or something else you were doing, this is pretty damning for turkesterone.
Waiting for Greg Doucette to angrily deny any of this
now he sells it 😮
Elotestostorone had me dying 😂
Lmaooo same 😂😂😂
Hey greg, when you do a screechy reaction video in response to this one try not to let the hypocrisy give you an aneurysm
Lmao well said
true...even mpmd did a vid on turkesterone saying it might work as well as trt or something.....then he pitched his product
I was thinking the same thing. he's probably not gonna bring it up at all. funny too since earlier Greg always used to favor the evidence base until this supplement showed up. completely switched his approach.
Why would Greg respond to someone afraid to show their personal results in fitness?
@@Xelbiuj Why does it matter what his physique looks like? Either he was being dishonest about what was in the supplements he was selling or he wasn't, the physical appearance of PictureFit has no bearing on that.
Greg is gonna have an aneurysm after watching this video, you know he will
He's just going to keep quite now lol coz he knows it's shit.
He has as aneurysm every time he speaks 😂
Its great how I became the face of Turkesterone even though Derek brought it to market. We all sold Turkesterone which passed all FDA required testing.
It was later discovered using more sophistical testing using a mass spectrometer (which the FDA does not use) that rather than turkesterone it was in fact other Ecdysteroids which where in the product which are very similar in structure to Turkesterone.
I and me then changed the label to better reflect whats in the bottle and never hid these facts or tried to cover it up.
I never see anyone mention any of the other 100 or so companies who sold Turkesterone other then me and sometimes Derek.
The 10’s of thousands of repeat buyers can attest that the product which contains ecdysteroids do in fact work.
It’s kind of like this if you had been eating mackerel for a year straight and enjoyed it. It tasted good it had protein in it and we’re happy with the results and then a year later you found out that the mackeral was actually halibut and still tasted good and had protein in it that would be a similar comparison to what happened here.
I mean I get it it’s so easy to hate on the people that sold it even though it’s not the people who sold it’s fault in the slightest because everything was tested third-party by the FDA required lab testing. But it makes for a way cooler story to say that Greg is such a horrible human being that he secretly was trying to scam out the audience to buy something that was like consuming dirt when in reality the product was amazing but the FDA never had the proper testing to see what was in it.
There are so many different at the steroids and it’s going to take years to find out the best combination in dosing to yield the best results.
But I can promise you 100% that I never lied about anything I never tried to trick anybody about anything and as soon as we found out we literally switch the labels on the bottles and that was 30,000 of those bottles that had to be relabelled because me and my company are as honest as any company you’ll ever find.
Of course I expect a flood of hate messages here but that’s to be expected and I am OK with it and feel free to shit on me as much as you want because obviously it’s going to make you feel better because in general people rather see successful people go down then try to understand what actually happened and respect a person for being honest about it.
I do think it’s absolutely amazing that I get to be the face of turkesterone even though I never discovered it and there’s more famous people than me who are selling it who do people don’t even mention and so I clearly did something right and was honest the entire time and so I have zero difficulty sleeping at night because I know I am not Trying to deceive anyone
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
lol no one is jealous of you succeeding your a legal scammer you deserve to be robbed of all your money hes exposing you for charging for something that doesn't work
Lol, you rip people off. You're a scammer it doesn't work, and you know it. Hopefully, yougo bankrupt 60 bucks for 20 servings of protein plus shipping insanity
Lol dude
3:10 is you scamming ripping people off. I've saved tons of people being scammed from you
One of the things that is not answered by "it depends". Even if it could be proven to have some anbolic effects, it is not yet proven as of the present. Also, interestingly, a placebo like this is nowhere near as toxic as SARMS/steroids.
at least they work
@@allandecastroferreira9359 true
@@allandecastroferreira9359 like atleats with sarms you get your moneys worth
There's a very short muscular man screaming his high pitched voice off right now at this video...
Thank you for putting this video up
Hearing Picfits voice is always so calming ❤
Given that 95% of fitness RUclipsrs/influencers I follow are science based, I've not been lied to :)
so basically jeff nipard, greg doucette, keltie oconner, natacha ocean lol.... they're all on the no BS call out the garbage train haha
@@jonsmith9728I like Greg but he sells Tukesterone himself
@@jonsmith9728don't forget more derek more delts lol
Well 2 of those „science“ channels sold these Turk Supps that were heavily underdosed.
@@thewaffle187 true that
Turdesterone. I feel bad for all the people who wasted their money
I don't. Because they were warned time and time again but just called every skeptic a hater and dropped their money anyway.
I don't think you should avoid naming names.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Avoiding legal issues is key
@@daikatarokamegawa542 Yeah no one wants to deal with the legal battles but it'll definitely be frivolous, it's not defamation if it's based on facts.
@@cadestrum
I do agree it's not. But let's be real. These companies are making big bucks from selling snake oil, so for sure they will care about being exposed.
At the very least, they will get the video demonetized, when it generates the most revenue. Then you have to deal with the legal notifications and whatnot... Picture bro ain't got time for that, unlike the legal team of big supplement companies.
the study doesn't specify the names of the products
did some digging to find where they searched for the products and it looks like these are the 10 in the study
Turkesterone
Swole AF
Turkesterone
Wellness Primal
Turkesterone+
HUMANX
Turkesterone 500 mg
S5 Supplement Labs
Turkesterone 500 mg
Gorilla Mind
Turkesterone 500 mg
Justified Laboratories
Turkesterone Max 500 mg
Justified Laboratories
Turkesterone Max 500 mg
Justified Laboratories
Turkesterone Growth Stack
Nutra Innovations
Turkesterone & Tongkat Ali
HUMANX
Great video! You should do a hole video about "natural testosterone boosters", such as tribulus terrestris, long jack, peruvian maca etc
Those are libido boosters
I wonder if any of those brands will be refunding their customers' money?
I thought this was just a new country that Putin was trying to develop to put himself in.
Turkmenistaneron
I’ve been taking it months and noticed increased strength and endurance in the gym across all lifts as have friends who have also took it in my advice
Yeah, but I’ve been taking it months and noticed decreased strength and endurance in the gym across all lifts as have 100 of my friends who have also took it in my advice
My dad has been taking it for almost a year. He still doesn’t love me though.
@@Arbfor don’t be so facetious
Same here. Some ppl like this guy like to talk to talk. The shit works
@@ggod4185 everybody I’ve recommended it to irl have noticed benefits too
I never bought turk but I can't blame the fitness RUclipsrs for selling them. They aren't scientists. They just took data backed by other scientists and tried to make a supplement helpful for the public. Science changes all the time and many modern practices are way more unethical than this. So good for them for trying.
Anybody over 30 who's still falling for this is either too stupid to be influencing anyone or getting PAID!
Tried to make a supplement helpful to their bank balances...
😂@@aslam7952
Then why follow the science if its changing all the time? You make science sound like nothing more than an opinion based on bullshit.
Just because molecules are similar in structure doesn't mean they act even remotely close when in the body.
Greg is really quite after this dropped
Turkesterone does have some mechanistic data behind it though (although i'm not sure how strong that is specifically) so i think that this is just a massively underdosed supplement that could be beneficial but it would simply be too expensive if dosed properly. Any thoughts about that? I've always believed that it does something, and still do but i don't think we have enough data that suggests your body just poops/pees it out and has extactly 0 interactions in a human.
Are there any studies with actual verified doses?
It works
Coach Parrot saved his ass by renaming his supplement and saying it contains a blend of sterones.
I'm happy I held off on buying it. I was waiting for more research and studies.
b-b-but... Greg said... 🥺
I've been working out for 8 years straight, and decided to try Turkesterone my self 1 month ago. And tbh the progress ive made the last month is ridicilous (for a natty). Its almost like im getting newbie gains again. It may very well be placebo, and probably is - but who cares ive gained about as much strength the last month as i have the rest of this year.
Same. 8 years working out natty. Now, in my case, I'm stacking Turk with Tongkat Ali and Fadogia. So, I don't know if Turk by itself may be doing anything, or if the other supps are.. but one thing is for sure. Massive focus, aggression in the gym, and weirdly horny after the 2 week mark.
@@n7Andythe tongkat might help but i bet my dick 80 percent of that is placebo. Placebo is a real effect tho so theres that
It works. Everyone who says it doesn't loves quoting studies they've had nothing to do with, or don't train properly, or ear horribly. It works.
@Annoye Pls stop talking ur small asf🙏🏻. It does work it just depends how you respond to it, just like ibuta you can respond well or shit to it. Pls dont say anything with 0 personal experience.
How is it allowed for them to do that, it should be considered a crime
It’s fraud, atleast the four that had no trace at all.
Cant wait for the Greg reaction lol
Very informative. That's why In my videos I never suggest people taking turkesterone.
Greg already had his own tested and found this out, admitted it, changed the product name, and made a video explaining
Derek (mpmd) has some explaining to do 😡
@@CoolSilver Yea he also sells it….
Yeah everyone is ragging on Greg but not Derek. The guy is just as steeped in bro science but has this facade of legitimacy for some reason.
I couldnt believe Derek was promoting and selling this shit
I clicked harder than last time and now I’m gonna be saving more money than last time 💴
Sorry Mr. Picturefit but you're off on this one.Turk works - I melt it and add it to my 600mg of tren/week and the gainz are amazing! 💪
You had us on the first half
Nope. It woks at 650mg of tren
Rewriting my script.
It works
Why could you not name the companies? Seems like that would be helpful.
What about ecdysterone? Edit: since they’re basically the same thing
A lot of the data commonly cited for Turk is actually ecdysterone. Since they are in the same family, some use them almost interchangeably. That said, the data is also uncompelling for ecdysterone,
theres no way that more plates more dates would shill for a fake supplement. just no way bro.
Eh. The evidence is weak and inconsistent, but not totally non-existent.
fore example,
'Significantly higher increases in muscle mass were observed in those participants that were dosed with ecdysterone. The same hypertrophic effects were also detected in vitro in C2C12 myotubes. Even more relevant with respect to sports performance, significantly more pronounced increases in one-repetition bench press performance were observed. No increase in biomarkers for liver or kidney toxicity was noticed. These data underline the effectivity of an ecdysterone supplementation with respect to sports performance."
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31123801/
he is that stupid..and so are you yes wow reality
This small time RUclipsr needs to make money somehow right
You forgot to mention that the turkesterone, which is advertised on these products, appears to actually be ecdysterone, which might actually have some anabolic activity...
Great video!! I can always know that you'll release the best content for your viewers. Keep on persevering!!
While I dont buy or condone Turkesterone, MPMD (DEREK) has said from the outset that he wasnt even sure if it had any effect and may in-fact have NO effect on muscle building HOWEVER, he felt like he'd seen a noticable difference BUT QUICKLY ADDED it could very well be psychological. He started selling to make it easier for anybody else wanting to try it but he kept up his video with said warning. Greg Doucette, MSc however was not so open about it and was pushing it hard. Then other "influencers" jumped on the bandwagon. Doucette (and now Nalewanyj) hopping on the supp bandwagon has really put me off subsribing to these guys. I still watch Sean's vid.s from time to time but Doucette definately lost a subscriber in me (so did mpmd but thats bc of his relentless "interviews" giving credence the ramblings of Dan Bilzerian and Joe Rogan) :/
When has Sean supported Turkesterone? ruclips.net/user/shortsNJM2saKUp4c
If this blows up your comment replies, or makes PictureFit delete it because he might (understandably) not want anything political in his comment section, I apologise, but: Just wanted to say that it's nice (and unusual) to see a fellow fitness enthusiast who's a leftie like me (at least going by your subscriptions, many of which I share). It rarely happens so I just wanted to shout it out!
IMO, kind of wild to sell anything where even I cannot confidently say is effective.
Is this a repost or are you guys using an internet explorer? Jk, we know is a scam for very long time, but some people may not. Great video.
How about ecdysteroids in general? Do the products analyzed had no ecdysteroids at all or just not Turk but contain other ecdysteroids?
No for two reasons
1# the amount of ecdysteroid in general found in plants is so small you would need to destroy hundreds of pounds of plant material in order to get milligrams.. The cost per dose would be staggering.
2# You're not a plant so even if there was anything in there it wouldn't help you
@@joshuasharrock466 according to Taha-Salaime et al 2019, Ajuga plants can content 10mg/g fresh weight (roughly equal 100mglg dry weight). This is already within the relevent dosage.
Plants certain can contain relevant amounts of compounds that may affect human metabolism. For instance, several meta analyses found soy isoflavones also activate estrogen receptor beta to decrease bone loss in elderly population
@@joshuasharrock466 "2# You're not a plant so even if there was anything in there it wouldn't help you"
Not saying plant based supplements work..but your logic here is beyond flawed. You literally digest and absorb life sustaining simple polysaccharides and nutrients from plants..try not being retarded.
WHAT ABOUT ECDYSTERONE IS IT THE SAME
You can take the question mark off the thumbnail
Ah yes the turk boom of 2021 how well I recall
Can you do a video on Taurine?
Not for everyone, everyone's experience varies. For me, 3-4 days of Turkesterone 1000 mg (2 pills) (gorillamind or doublewood brands) gave me 5 lbs max more on top of bench-press, 2 more reps, recovery down to 2-3 days, a bit of motivation. I do not have to cycle because it's only half a week. Yes, i did blood work as well, got 100 ng/dl more. Worked for me, not sure if it works for others.
It's not even supposed to increase testosterone levels. It's supposed to interact with estrogen receptors. That being said, you got results because of your hard work, sleeping habits and good nutrition. The turkesterone did nothing.
Did you gain muscle though?
@@bradfordmcdermott2063 Small gains.
You mean the latest "in" supplement influencers are being paid to hype isnt all its cracked up to be??? Ah well im sure the next one will work!
Sal at Mind Pump claims that it works for only 45-60 days, then it is useless.
Where can I find the link to buy elotestosterone?
Wait! Isn't turkesterone a type of testosterone from turkeys?
Hello I always watch your videos... Can you make a quick video for working out for night shift schedule at work.. I always work out after night shift work.. Is it okay?
Tried it for three months and did nothing
It loses it effects after 60 days.
Didn't you say that one study in 2006 said there is no effect while one in 2019 said there is a substaintial effect on performance and size? And that we generally just need more data to decide if there are real benefits from turkesterone? Then why are you blatantly saying there are no benefits to it at all? Isn't that a bold statement from a guy that goes by the data?
It was later found in the 2019 study that the supplement they tested had almost no ecdysterone in it at all. This is a good reminder that a lot of studies are steaming hot garbage.
Bump, because I’m genuinely curious
More research will always be great, but doesn't mean I won't call it for what it has been the past few years. Neither the the 2006 nor 2019 study gave us info on Turk itself since both investigated a different ecdy. Turk data has never been there and now that the hype is virtually dead, I doubt any resources will be spent on investigating it outside of any ongoing research (which of course if available, I'll be sure to cover). Check back in 10 years when the ecdy hype kicks back up.
@@PictureFit Really appreciate the reply. So much weird misinformation about turk online, so this clear it a lot. Cheers :)
Creatine
Caffeine
Protein
All you need...
Solid.
no PEDs all you need
@@dragonleg8700 that comes with a huge price the others come with a less price
Easily Class Action worthy.
All the people taking it and claiming they got stronger, leaner and bigger... SIGNIFICANT placebo or they were lying to sell more lol
Coach Greg gonna bring the hammer🤣
It's rather odd, it seems to work for me
Did you gain muscle though?
I use it while on trt and it gives me more energy, and fuller muscles. It's funny how people will just believe a RUclips video.
Will it shrink your boobs? I want to shrink my boobs.
Ironically, the only way one could "believe" it works are the ones who believed a RUclips video, because there's factually no evidence out there at the moment to show it does anything whatsoever 😂🤝🏾.
Well, I'll take the placebo effect then. When I've tried turkesterone as a powder (tastes horrible) and capsule, I've gotten noticeable strength gains that I've been able to also mostly keep after the cycle. Might as well gotten them without the turkesterone, but I'm talking about 10-30% depending on the exercise. I can't say about the muscle size.
Bro is scared of bulking and takes bunk supplements instead
@@shaiman5190 couldn't be more wrong.
The one I bought at amazon it works perfect i been doing double workout and that's not a placebo this is real
Did you gain muscle? Whats the brand name?
Can you do video on new fame thing that going on? Like train 1-3 days per week rest other days and see x2 growth?
What about combining quinoa WITH weight training?
Wtf are u talking about lmao
Quinoa has ecdysterone in it naturally.. atleast you know youre getting actual ecdysterone... 2 raw ozs of it per day shoukd give ypu enough ecdy to see results. Im on day 5 of eating quinoa everyday.. hopefully I should see some improvements
Keep us updated. The fx on me is it gives that drive to train.
I know for a people grasping at straws like this are definitely tiny and don’t have impressive physiques
I bought some from more plates more dates and I’ll leave a review after one month. I know the controversy with this supplement and it is a hit or miss with people but I’ll be transparent when I’m back after a month.
hey bro, ive been running turk for awhile and its been pretty good for me, im about to add ecdy. Tell me how your cycle goes bro. I also dont know why this supplement is controversial either since it DOES work it just depends on if your a good or bad responder.
@@VOYD733 yea it’s working after a week of taking it I broke PRs. I added Tongkat Ali and fadogia agrestis as well and I’ve been hitting every workout harder than I ever had in my life and I’m rarely ever sore for longer than a day sometimes I’m not sore at all. I’ve gotten bigger too but that could be the creatine. I overloaded for a week and got swole. Regardless of gains, I have so much more energy, focus motivation and I got so much stronger from that stack. Highly recommend.
@@CourierSix9where you buy your supplements from
All the Turkesterone stans from his first video are malding rn
This is such old news lol
Picture fit, can you make a video on tongkat ali and fadogia agrestis. I was planning to buy them but saw a ton of negative and an equal amount of positive coverage about it.
The min amount thats available in amazon is a 3 months supply so i cant even try this myself to check of it works for me
Doesn't work ashwaganda in som brands Are more effektive but not good.
Cant beat hmb and creatine
实践是检验真理唯一的标准
we all know which one he’s referring to ! 🤣🤣🤣
can you do a video of laxogenin please?
But they did find more ecdysterone.
No plates...
curious, what about HTLT supps ectybuilder that claims to of infused ectybuilder synthesis with turktesterone, reason for the this is that turk is useless by itself anyway, was extremely curious if you've tested this out
Its all bullshit. Greg just renamed his turk to this to avoid the heat for now.
I wonder if coach Greg would make a video of this.
We got you, Jeff Nippard!
Jeff has called turk trash in multiple videos
My understanding of the current state of the evidence:
- due to supplements not being regulated, you're probably not getting any ecdysteroids in your capsules
- the very limited evidence for ecdysteroids having any effects in humans is weak and seems to support either a complex of ecdysteroids or some other ecdysteroid(s) as being responsible for any effect they might have, rather than turkesterone specifically
-what effects seem to show up in studies are inconsistent across studies and quite small, being neither significant nor statistically significant in the overwhelming majority of studies
- most studies have been of poor quality
In summary, there's little to know evidence and no strong evidence for either efficacy or significant side effects from turkesterone or other ecdysteroids in humans.
Solid summary.
Fun fact: i looked up danger zone
As in the song
Thanks youtube
Highway to turkesterone
MPMD where you at?
More plates more dates will be pissed
Can you prove any of this other then that one study. You sound emotional 😂
The herbal plant definitely does some stuff but its not steroid tier.
What about deer antler velvet anyone heard of that?
Coach Greg proves not ❤
But the real supplement exists?
Does it work?
An influencer i trust who wasnt trying to push a specific brand said it does IF you actually get the real stuff
There is absolutely no evidence that it does anything.
@@austinmartin9099 Its completley dependant on individual responses, Worked great for me and im about to add ecdy, Infact, when paired with ecdy, the results can be comparable to a low dose of anavar (If you respond well to it)
I advise you to try it and if it doesnt work then stop running it so that you can save money, for me it worked very well and im going to add ecdysterone. If you do notice anything, then feel free to do what ever you want. Turkesterone does infact work, just depends if you respond good or bad to it.
Do a talk on sarms
you sound like RAMPAGE at poker vlog
I want my money back
Where's my tinfoil hat, RUclips suppressing the truth!
3:00 I want to take your word for it based on this thing called "trust" - however, when the premise is "these influencers lied to you", yet you refer to us as your "good friends" while informing on how to spend money. Huge, blazing red flag right there. We're not your friends. Just watching and enjoying someone's content does not substitute a functional relationship with a friend. You are a source of information on the internet, and have not earned the title of friend with anyone here for this.
Woah super butthurt man is butthurt, who cares if he’s not a ‘friend’ does little to harm the veracity of the information, why are you focusing on this tangent?
Sorry you feel that way amigo.
@@PictureFithe doesn't speak for us. You're my friend
Someone send me the link to elotetosterone
So you're SAYING that in the Study that NONE of the pills had Turkesterone or much less than they said they did?
Well,.Then you aren't really doing a Turkesterone TEST 🙄~
Epic FAIL~
Greg's half wealth is based on selling this snake oil😂
Also Derek from mpmd
Internet Explorer news
Does this cartoon even lift
What about the eck (eckysteroid) something that's in some of the influencers snake oil mixes? Was that tested also?
Supposedly these snake oil products were mixed with a bunch of similar things at all are supposed to enhance your bodybuilding efforts.
It doesn't matter because ecdysteroids have been trialed before and shown to do absolutely bupkis.
Have a debate with Derek more plates more dates...
What a shocker!!! 😒
Anyone thought of injecting testosterone into plants? If their turkesterone would work on humans, maybe the reverse is also true? 😅
You're like 2 years late on this video lol