Ride The Cyclone: The Ballad of Jane Doe
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2022
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![The Ballad of Jane Doe [Official Audio] from Ride the Cyclone The Musical featuring Emily Rohm](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HXbRfQAHfdg/mqdefault.jpg)
For people who haven’t seen the full video, before each characters song, the character pushes down the lever. This fills the frame of the stage with a series of baby photos before launching into a short scene of their childhood. For Jane, no photos show up, which is why the audience laughs and she tries the lever a second time.
OK now that makes me even sadder
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NOOOO 😭
So her current look is supposed to be based off of the doll she holds right? Since she doesn’t have an actual head?
@@lukemckenzie0121 yup she's apparently using the dolls head
Just realized Jane's hair is so aestheticly different is because she's using the dolls head to substitute her own missing one. That's why the doll she held was headless
That's why every time she makes a sudden movement her head wobbles
It’s also why she doesn’t have eyes
Or at least pitch black eyes
That actually makes so much sense.
OH
OH MY GODDDD THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
fun fact: ballads are normally made anonymously! so this being called The Ballad of Jane Doe really emphasizes the fact that she had no identity
More Fun facts to fuel your fancy: this is a lament because ballads have stories in them and Jane Doe Desperately wanted a story. That's why Karnak said "what they dreamt they were" :)
@@SaikiKFann and Karnak’s line is also tied to Noel’s lament, which is funnily enough, a ballad.
"The Ballad of..." as a song/poem title almost always has a name, though?
@@andrewsparkes6275 the name is a character name or story-esque name that deals with the song, not the writer’s name
@@jaydflay4809 Then what has the title of this song got to do with anything?
She’s upside down, spinning, flying, jumping around and not a single voice crack. God her talent is unmatched.
FRR
The amount of breath support has me in awe and envious tbh
@@wertaisdoingsomething4818 obviously because they don’t want to interrupt the signing and they want to enjoy the experience 😭
@@wertaisdoingsomething4818 ah, that makes sense. It was pretty weak but it is an off broadway audience so idrk 🤖
YES WHEN I WAS WATCHING I WAS IN ABSOLUTE DISBELIEF LIKE SINGING THOSE NOTES WHILE TWIRLING IN THE AIR
Her skirt is genius. Preventing flashing, and giving her an even more ghostly appearance by literally defying gravity.
She actually left stage during Ricky's song (space age bachelor man) to change her skirt to one that had some boning and technical stuff in it so it wouldn't fly up while she was upside down!
It’s extra chilling if you consider the parts where she’s in the air the path the coaster took, and her arpeggio notes are her screaming
What! I never knew this!
WOAH
I totally see it especially when it looks like she’s landing on her head at 5:11
Its so cool how they did that theres so much little details in this musical you almost never notice in the first watch its amazing!!!
I noticed that the first time I watched the musical lol
i’d like to mention how at 4:39 when she starts spinning, people have mentioned that the direction she goes in is supposed to be the rollercoaster track, but when we remember that they all died at the apex of the loop-de-loop and went flying in the air, i think the track is going backwards in an attempt for her to recollect her memories
also the fact that she might of hit everything going down
I really love the line "Time eats all his children in the end", bc it works on two levels
1. A reference to the myth of Kronos eating his children in Greek mythology
2. A reference back to her catchphrase, the tale of the lion eating his children out of jealousy for the attentions of the lioness
Yessssss
yeah but they got the refrence confused because kronos (with a k, the guy who ate his children) wasn't god of time, he was a harvest god. the time god in greek myth is chronos (ch. they are completely unrelated) they get confused very often
@@sejsuper4660 Ohh, I didn't realise, thanks for clearing that up!
@@sejsuper4660
They are kinda the same though.
I mean not but kinda?
Chronos is a primordial form of Kronos
@@thesparechannel6580 it’s ok everyone ends up making that mistake, and it would’ve been a really cool correlation if it was true
I find the “John and me” line devastating. There’s no John Doe in this musical, obviously, so referring to “John” is basically referring to the concept of every unidentified male person in history. The “and me, eternally Jane Doe” is her having to lump herself in with every single other Jane Doe in history. You can’t be an individual, you’re forever part of this whole, single entity. Not only did she lose her personal identity, she lost her human individuality. She essentially has dissolved into just a concept. It’s devastating and terrifying.
I think it's really interesting too because in a twisted way it's what she wants. Jane's whole song is about how badly she wants to have a life and be connected to people, and as she is the only person she could ever be connected with is a hypothetical John Doe as her partner.
i feel like because she mentions st peter perhaps the john she mentions is john doe but also st john who was beheaded like jane
John Doe is what male unidentified bodies are referred to as.
Maybe there was a boy on the ride that wasn’t found at all?
I remember when she's born as Penny Lamb she gets a brother, I don't remember his name tho
@ellojullo her brother is ezra lamb
The fact that she's hitting those notes while literally spinning through the air is fucking astonishing
RIGHTT??
Fun fact, Emily Rohm isn't actually hooked up to anythin on the stage, shes truly just flying around. We love to see a beuitiful method actor don't we?
wow! so talented! 🤩👐
a truly dedicated actor 🤭🤭🤭
SUCH dedication.
That's real talent
I like how she sounds kind of angry at, "and I'm asking why lord" because it's kind of like she gets upset over not having a story and almost demanding an explanation
I also like how they reference funerals as a kind of celebration, I can definitely see a character like her getting upset over no funeral for them
"some believe she was never in the choir at all" proceeds to have the best vocals out of all of them (imo)
Truuuuuuuue
I love that those extreme high notes after 4:35 are sung as if they're meant to represent the screaming of jane when she flew off the coaster
i think in a tiktok she said it was an accident because she was supposed to say 'why' but because of adrenaline she didnt
@@mjsfjshdhfhdy2498 do you have a link to it?
The way she literally did acrobatics in the air while belting soprano notes for the mildest applause I have ever heard…
I heard it was a dress rehearsal that only a few people went to but idrk
The fact that it is unknown if she was even in the choir and how she was the only one who was really mutilated is really creepy. I also think the fact that her high notes while she is flying are supposed to represent her screaming before her death is absolutely terrifying.
THAT THEORY…
WHY
DOES IT WORK
omg pls share more of that theory its so mhmmm i love ittt
This is why attendance lists are important
Lmao fr
DUDE-
LMAO
YOU DID NOT
I just realized that Jane is the only one whose fortune wasn’t read, meaning she’s the only one who could have lived, because Karnak saw that everyone would die, but did not know about Jane’s fate.
so her fate was to live?
wait nvmd i cant read
I know there are a lot of theories that she wasn’t on the rollercoaster but I just love how those scales she sings mirror the slow incline on the ride and the sudden, uncontrollable drop. That feels like a very intentional parallel especially when her hand drops to symbolise her death after the fall.
What theories?
@@nathaniellee5277 sorry for being 2 hrs late! but there are rumors about her not even being *on* the rollercoaster- that she was next to it and was hit by the actual car derailing and crashing into the park pathway
It would make sense for the car to hold only 4, but with all this representation it seems like she was on, he pitches, her hand motions, the moment where she’s floating symbolizing how she flew threw the air after it derailed
@@CrazyGamerDude17But we already know that even if Jane wasn't on it, there would be 5
When she flips upside down the first time it represents the first loop in the ride and the second loop when she stopped halfway she falls
OMG THAT MAKES SM SENSE
@@robinpilley5923 ik right😭
5:08 "Is this how I die Lord"
BROOO
THE WAY HER VOICE CHANGED AT THE “and im askin WHY LORD?” IS INCREDIBLE. and as someone who’s trying to learn this song for fun, i am flabbergasted by this preformanceee
THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING
THIS MUSICAL HITS BULLSEYE NEARLY EVERY TIME
@@NandoMations IT DOES!!!
3:22 this part alone is confirmation enough to me that Jane Doe WAS actually at the fair that day, when the music switched to typical funfair music, the fear sets in immediately- she remembers it
THAT’S why she’s gasping like that!
not to mention: "I hear the anguish of the street" It is scientifically proven that a decapitated head remains conscious for about 10-15 seconds, so she likely heard people screaming shortly after her head hit the ground
WHY IS NOONE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN SHE SAY, "Time eats all his children in the end," SHE POINTS TO THE AUDIENCE?!?!?!?
FR
I think Jane doe sang that since it’s a greek mythology fact where Cronus ate his children
@@Mayi._. nahh, its a reference to the beginning of the musical, where every characters ‘catchphrase’ is said. Jane talks about how when a lioness has cubs, the lion will get jealous of the attention the cubs are getting because the lioness will now refuse to make love with the lion again, so the lion eats the cubs. You might think the lioness would mourn the children, but no, the lioness makes love with the lion again as if the cubs never existed, and Jane talks about how that idea is terrifying to her.
@@Flanexia ohhh ok ty! Someone has told me it was a Greek mythology fact, sorry!
@@Mayi._. It's both actually!
Fun fact, the high notes of the song are meant to represent the screams of Jane doe as she was being decapitated on the roller coaster
Wait really?
@@Coffees_Catsyup yupppp they’re right
Hpw did they not find her head??
@@CRUSHONAVIRGIN Two options: it got lost under the rumble and the "from the ground, beneath my feet, i hear the anguish of the street" means that she somehow hears what the head would be hearing, it is close enough to hear the outside but is buried.
Or two, it literally got smashed and destroyed to the point that there weren't any parts that could get identified as a head
@@CRUSHONAVIRGINhonestly considering the speeds of roller coasters, her head could have been thrown anywhere.
She has this almost doll like quality, making her seem not quite human, like a shell of a person. The carousel-esque quality and the fly adds to it for me too. It’s so fitting for her character, because she is in a sense incomplete, without a name or a story.
If you see the beginning you realize she’s stolen the head of her doll cause she doesn’t have one. It so cool
Something intresting to note, "The BALLAD of Jane Doe" is actually in the style of a "Lament."
Whilst the song "Noel's LAMENT" is in the style of a "Ballad."
Ballad : a poem or song narrating a story in short stanzas. Traditional ballads are typically of unknown authorship, having been passed on orally from one generation to the next. (a slow sentimental or romantic song.)
Lament : a passionate expression of grief or sorrow ( for example Jane Doe's song is not telling a story, she is singing about her sorrow of dying being practially unknown as if she wasn't ever there in the first place. unlike Noel's Lament where it tells an actual story. )
Just something that I thought was cool.
Jane Doe’s Lament sounds pretty sick
The Ballad of Noel Grueber
what we thinking
actually, I think this was done on purpose!
Noel's Lament, while a ballad, is him lamenting the life he wished he had. He *wanted* the story he told, but could never have it.
The Ballad of Jane Doe, while a lament, has a lot of visuals that represent the accident itself that fell it's own story (her moving through the air to possibly mimic the coaster's path). She said it herself, she has no story, so acting out the story of her death while lamenting what she doesn't even remember is the closest to a story she has.
It was purposeful 😎
Noel's Ballad and The Lament Of Jane Doe sound so good.
even creepier how her high pitched "aahhs" are implied to be screams
Damn really
And when she falls
It’s crazy that they got an actual siren for this role
That made me spit my water, 10/10.
If I attempted this while spinning in the air then I would become part of the Cyclone accident
LMAOOOO BEST COMMENT
OH NOO 😭😭
💀
LMFAOOO
Fun fact: Apparently the "Oh why"s were originally supposed to be an octave lower but emily accidentally sang them an octave higher.
An octave lower would make singing this song so much easier 😢
I just realized. Jane Doe's eyes are meant to mimic a dolls eyes having fallen out. Empty sockets.
It's probably meant to mimic black button eyes, like her hair is styled like a doll. The doll's head is being used as a stand in
omg i love that cus eyes are the window to the soul
Her head is meant to represent her dolls head. Since hers is gone, it was replaced with her dolls, hence the reason her head is more perfect and pleasant. I think her eyes are meant to represent that she has no soul because of the saying, "the eyes are the windows to the soul"
Dear god, I thought it was crazy enough when she started floating, but that spin she did absolutely shattered my brain, dear lord shes so talented
i think they used wire but it looks like shes floating
@@sparklycrayonz they forsure used wire but its insanely hard to keep a note going when not on the floor, especially impossible when spinning
@@npc-333 its actually not wire, theres a tiktok by the lady who plays jane doe that shows how they did it, its a big mechanical arm thing shes strapped into c:
obviously still crazy impressive tho
@@clefairytails2842 could you try and find the tiktok? I'm super interested in seeing it now o:
absolutely obsessed with how her skirt doesn't move when she's flipped upside down. It makes it all so much more mechanical. She trapped in place and so is her skirt lol!
Fun-fact: during space age bachelor man they actually swapped out her skirt so the audience wouldn’t be flashed when she went upside down! :)
the way her voice sounds when she says "and im asking" will never stop giving me chills, this whole song is a masterpiece and the way she sings it is beautiful
fr! it’s crazy how easily she flips from a soft, operatic sound to a harder, jazzy sound.
I love it, it’s so unhinged which makes it perfect.
The fact that Jane's shadow looks like wings is fascinating. I don't know if the costume designer or the director thought of it or if it was just a coincidence.
Pretty sure it's intentional. Fits with her story, falling to her death + those biblical references and all
@@raspberrycrowns9494 now that you mention it, it makes sense now
OKAY BUT WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE SET DESIGN???? LIKE SHE WAS SINGING UPSIDE DOWN FLYING IN THE AIR??!??? AND THE LED UMBRELLAS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE STARS???? HELLLOO???
And the audience was literally so quiet
Wait what stairs???
@@emered5885 the umbrellas had lights on them to look like stars in the sky at night
@@Chrysalis-Cherrybloom I thought it said stairs lmao
@John Pirroni oh cool!
This musical has some of the strongest wigs Ive ever seen. First Noel’s managing to stay in place while constantly moving and twisting his body. Now Jane’s stays in place while she’s floating and upside down.
literally what I was wondering, how does his wig stay on?? hers I understand, they can glue it on, but his just gets plopped on him. I wonder if there's some kind of tape inside the cap that holds in on??
@@mischr13 I think its just VERY tight
I may be like with her skirt where they had wires to keep it in place
@@arsgoetia.8126someone who likes wigs here! if it were too tight it’d fall of just as easily as it would if it were loose! so it really must just be that this cast is full of magical people
somthing that no one really notices is that noels lanment is in the style of a ballad and the ballad of jane doe is in the style of a lament!
This is actually a really cool observation
Kinda shows how confused they are
it made me really sad when i realized the song represents her fall off the cyclone. she reaches her hand up as she falls, and the high notes are supposed to mimic her screams as she descends. and the last "ah" when she hits the bottom.
oh my god i never thought about that. that’s so sad and smart of the creators
I just realized that when she is in the air flying, she moves freely and not at all stiff like a doll unlike when she walks around. I’m sure that it has some meaning but I don’t know what
I feel it has something to do with the lyrics during the flight sequence. It's the humanity that's still in her wondering who she is, and why she doesn't know whe she was.
It may also be because everything else is afterwards when she doesn't remember who she is like an empty doll of a person, but the flight sequence feels like a re-living of the moments of her death where she is falling down from the ride.
It looks like she's a doll being played with
her flying is supposed to represent her falling through the air after she fell out of the cart- and when that happened, she was still human and (probably) alive, so it would make sense for her not moving like a doll anymore, but moving like a human, what she was while falling.
ive got no clue but what i do know is that her singing is still angelic while UPSIDE DOWN
how did they manage to make the flying parts so seamless?? It almost looks like the singer is genuinely floating and flying around like how a ghost would,, major props to everyone involved in this musical
Do you remember the account name?
Edit: found it
I’m pretty sure it’s that she’s sitting on a bicycle seat and attached to a harness at the torso, which is why her legs are pretty much always hip width apart or wider.
@@hanbanvlogs im pretty sure its a machine with an arm that attaches to something in her waist that's why it looks so smooth
@@Fionnnnna yeah it is! But she’s also sitting on something so she isn’t just hanging there and is more stable whilst singing
@@hanbanvlogs
The actor posted a video that showed how she did it!
why are we not talking about the fact that she sang half of this song IN THE AIR AND UPSIDE DOWN SPINNINGG ???? like oh my god I love Emily Rohm so much I aspire to be as good as that one day. incredible incredible song and performance. the audience was so underwhelming, I would've been standing, screaming and applauding like there was no tomorrow.
It's actually theater etiquette not to applaud after each song, just at intermission and at the end, but a lot of people don't follow that rule
you've totally got it! practice makes perfect! When your a big-shot and the best singer, remember me 🫶🏼
no, but actually. You can do this!
@L-M they were exaggerating
We are
The worst thing is to be forgotten. Not to die, but to die without anyone knowing who you were or what you wanted. Penny Lamb (for those who haven’t seen the musical, Jane Doe) died an unidentifiable death. No head, no face, no one to tell anyone her name or story. This song hurts, because she seems so casual about her death and so angry about her decapitation. The lyric “If this is how I die, why be left with no family and no friends?” just goes to show that. And on top of that, she doesn’t know who she is either. No head, no memory. Afraid of being forgotten and not knowing who you are. Poor Penny.
yeah :((( also wow your everywhere
@@XxsalemkatxX lmao i told you there is not a damn corner of this internet i haven’t touched
@@coyotix mood
It would be so much worse if she wasn’t decapitated, but still no one could identify her
@nathanpanusky2531 That's really sad
The break in her voice when she sings "isn't there anyone to tell me who I am?!" always hits me in the gut with emotion
It might have to do with the fact that she gets jerked up right at that part lol
@@lunatheluma3804true, but it really adds to the emotion as well. Regardless, that note still sounded great despite being upside down and then jerked up lol
I think we can all agree that the applaud from the audience was not NEARLY as loud as it needed to be.
Agreed
recordings often muffle applause, so the applaud was probably a lot louder than what we heard
i think this was a press recording, so there wasnt an actual full audience!!
Fun fact this is actual a lament and Noel's lament is actually a ballad
And the reason they’re switched is because that’s what they want to have. A lament is a song of tragedy and a ballad is a story told through song. Noel wants a tragedy and Jane wants a story to tell.
@@todorokis_trauma_kettlejust wanted to lyk this broke my heart in a million pieces
Born to be Jane
Forced to be an alto 😔
i’m an alto and i could sing this well, you just gotta use your head voice and mixed voice more
My life😂... I am bad at control and listening 😂 They said if I manage to be Alto then they said I could unlock my full potential....
That is literally so real 😭 born to be Ocean or Jane
Forced to be Constance
Able to be both 😶
@@Liane778 guess Jane can't use her head.
The fact that she sounds identical both live and in the studio recording is just incredible. Her voice is mind boggling
Her high notes are her screams as the ride is breaking the last high note is cut off cause that’s when her head left her body
That’s actually really cool
Also could i have the timestamp?
@@Caineedssleep 5:50 while she’s singing Jane doe
Haunting
Imagine you’re about to die on a rollercoaster when the girl next to you does an Ariana Grande then gets her head cut off-
@@Sillyfrogs now I can’t stop laughing why would you say that-
i just realized the reason why her doll doesn't have a head is because she's using its head-
and that's probably why she looks emotionless, she can't change her facial expressions because her face is plastic
the doll curls beady eyes and makeup
Her vocal performance is obviously incredible, but I think Emily Rohm deserves just as many flowers for her physical acting. Even before shes doing air-acrobatics, her movements rarely cease being uncanny and unnatural. Her head is jerky and almost disconnected from the rest of her body in the way it moves. She's stiff in most instances, standing stock-still while her head moves in an almost bird-like fashion. It's like something unsuccessfully trying to imitate human movement, but in a way that's more curious and childlike than sinister. Jane Doe is creepy, yeah, but looking at her I never fear once that she may be dangerous. It very well conveys the idea of a living doll, or someone who's completely disconnected from their body and humanity, but in a way that feels specific to the character instead of just being generic "creepy girl" fare.
OH MY GOD "TIME EATS ALL HIS CHILDREN IN THE END" IS A CALLBACK TO HER CATCHPHRASE!
OH MY GOODNESS I NEVER REALIZED THAT-
IM SO HAPPY THAT U SAID THAT- EVERY1 IS SAYING “GREEK MYTHOLOGY” LIKE NO-
Elaborate
@@bladeandkeeperyt In her catchphrase, Jane Doe says that a lion will sometimes get so jealous when the lioness has children and stops making love to him that he eats the children
While it is also her catchphrase, it does also relate back to Greek mythology. Kronos the King of Titans and the god of time is best known for eating his children which is meant to signify that no one can beat time. So both sides are correct. Honestly I was just geeking out over a greek mythology reference so sorry for the info dump.
Why is nobody talking about how hard it would've been to sing like that while spinning around and flying
We already did 1 year ago
Jane/Pennys story actually scares me. Like she fell off a rollercoster and got beheaded. That’s fucking terrifying, and just the way they got that through in a song just makes it more terrifying, the way she gets pulled in the air waving her hands around like she’s falling is just dark
The scariest part is this is a song that could be for anyone. Anyone could be Jane doe
@@Good_luck_. that too, it’s just so bizarre to think about
It’s bc of that, I’m not sure it’s possible for her to come back to life. Like she has no head so how will she come back? Will she have a new body?
@@Fayesnotthatcool4398I think that it will take her to before she got on the roller coaster and stop her somehow
@@Fayesnotthatcool4398I just assumed that she would be reincarnated into a new life.
I am so impressed by her ability to convey so much emotion through her voice and not use her face to show much emotion, because dolls can’t show emotion. Emily Rohm just plays this character so fantastically, all the details are perfect.
Plus singing those notes while floating around and being upside down.
girl demolished the song in the best way possible and got the wimpiest applause what
At the time it was a very small musical, the audience wasnt necessarily whimsey, it was just very small, and there werent a lot of people watching
At least we got a good clip without loud echoes from the crowd?
SPOILER ALERT Is the fact that i just realized that that's not her head, it looks like it's a doll face because IT IS a doll face, she doesn't have her face because she lost it in the accident so she's using her doll face that was shown on the beginning that's why it's more white than her body, that's why the doll hair and the rare makeup and that's why the doll is beheaded 💀
also the other 2 girls dont have something around their necks for their school outfits!!
note this is just a small detail i noticed heheh
Idk if this is just me but in the recording she sounds much sadder at the “and I’m asking why lord” part. But in this performance she sounds almost angry and frustrated.
The power of editing. The ones you see in clips and such have the audio distorted
maybe it's because in the recording she's sitting in a studio and in the performance she's actually moving
i heard one time that her high notes represent her screams from when the accident occurred
with fall fair suite her high notes are proof she was the last one who died. a decapitated head can live up to thirty seconds
i guess she slayed those screams /hj
to anyone who sees this: apparently jane doe's uniform skirt was made with rubber, to keep it from flipping when she was upside down
Where did you hear that?
Yeah that does not even make sense. A part of the stage crew commented on another video that the skirt is sewn to the shorts underneath
Me when I spread misinformation on the internet:
I’m very glad she got picked. She deserved to live life to the fullest, for all of them.
But I was always so confused about that- she had no head...
Doesn't reanimation have limits?
@@opmad5593not reanimation! Reincarnation to another, new life
@@Artist_Dakota oh my gosh... now everything makes so much sense. Why it's in set the future a bit, why he was able to "learn" her name all of the sudden!
THANK YOU!!
It just makes sense that jane doe's head is a doll. It's just a substitution, it would be hard to portray a character with no actual head, and it be weird theatre visual wise
yea she carries around a doll w/out a head thru the whole show, implying she took the head of her doll as a substitute (its also likely she won the doll at the carnival)
@autismcreatureirl I never even considered that she won that doll in a carnival game 🤯. Makes me wonder how its head got big enough to replace her head though...
Heres everything i gathered on Jane Doe;
Turns out, she was beheaded on the ride, which was the screaming vocals (minus the ones where it drops since its her falling in the coaster). So without her head she lost her memories, they also cannot identify her; which explains her being called “Jane” aka the equivalent of John doe (unidentifiable “Male”). She sings about John because they are both essentially *nobodies*. It also adds how John was a famous priest who was beheaded. She has this “perfect hair” and the wobbliness to her head because due to the fact she lost it, she had to take a dolls head (which we see her holding a headless doll at a point). She was in the last cart so she heard everyone die and then was beheaded, explaining the line “i felt the ground beneath my feet, the anguish of the street (a choir never complete)” Losing her head, means it will never be whole again. In the scene you see at one part before she *flies* there are dark shadows behind her looking like wings because she is a *fallen angel* basically. Her song is the most “choir esk” due to the fact thats all she knows about herself. other then that, shes nothing... its not a Ballad its a Lament.. she *wants* to *be*, but she can’t. Jane is the most impressionable and easiest to manipulate (which the fortune dude does) *because* of this fact.
This Musical is Genius...
And there's another song in the musical called Noel's Lament, which isn't a lament, but a ballad about Monqiue Gibeau.
The “just John and me” line is pretty clever (spoilers for number 3)
1. A Jane Doe in an unidentified female, and John Doe is the male equivalent
2. Saint John was a baptist who was famously beheaded
3. Johnny Moon from Legoland, who’s idolized by Jane’s past self and/or reincarnation, Penny.
This is very interesting! I was aware of the first fact but not the other two.
It’s possible I’m wrong, but I thought that she was Penny before dying, not after reincarnation.
@@josephsherby oh yeah I forgot which one
5:15 THE WAY SHE SAYS "is there anyone to tell me who i am" IS SO DAMN NICE TO MY EARS BRO
PLUS UPSIDEDOWN LIKE BRO
Ik right
THEY'RE WEARING FUNERAL ATTIRE BECAUSE SHE NEVER HAD ONE-
She had a funeral, just noone showed up except the people who held it
@@fablespielt8092I guess they meant she never had a proper funeral? (Loved ones, people mourning because they knew her and would miss her, etc)
it find it funny it's called a "ballad" because a ballad a poem that tells a story, and Jane doesn't have a story to tell, this would be more of a lament
and another thing, noel's lament is actually a ballad, since a lament is a passionate expression of grief and pain, but noel didn't actually experienced pain. he told a poem, a ballad
jane wanted to tell a story, while noel wanted pain. idk if it makes sense
The Ballad of Noel Gruber and Jane Doe's Lament
Ballads where usually wrote anonymously which makes sense for Jane doe’s song to be titled the ballad of Jane doe.
Interesting bit of irony! Clever enough that I wouldn't be surprised if that was intentional...
I saw somewhere that Noel wants a lament, he wants passion. And Jane wants a ballad, she wants a story.
Noel's greif and pain comes from never being able to live a life he wishes he could and dying with no sort of name to him, he wanted an interesting life where he could make an impact on others.
("Like him, I wish to burn out. Rather than fade away.")
He died before he could even really live.
I have the theory that Jane Doe was a neglected child and this is why nobody retrieved her body. Maybe Father Marcus took her under his wing and nurtured her singing abilities. He wanted her to have fun like the others kids and gave her an uniform so she can join in, and well, the tragedy happened.
theres actually a play called legoland thats basically a prequel to rtc ab penny lamb when she was alive- your theory is similar
spoilers i think (bc this isn’t part of the musical but spoils the ending) but her family was arrested for being a part of the largest marijuana growing ring in Saskatchewan. I assume she was sent to catholic school pretty close before the incident which is why they talk about other students not being able to recall her name or anything as well because she was new (before that she was homeschooled). there’s whole play about her and her brother getting out of there but it’s not well documented and i still need to read it lol
This song just constantly punches me in the gut.
Constantly thinking of all the people over the years who were dubbed John and Jane Doe.
Stripped of their personhood in the end. A forever mystery.
It's very sad. I hope they're resting in peace.
the way she hit a whistle tone on ACCIDENT
When did she do that?
@@poultrylover7594 the music wasnt written for her to go that high but she accidentally did an opt up during the workshop stage and the directors decided to keep it in!
@@kaleidoscopicc9155 in which part of the song though?
@@poultrylover7594At 5:21! It was supposed to be a lower octave in the 2015 Chicago run, but due to nerves i think, she sang it an octave higher by mistake and Jacob and Brooke kept it in because they liked it so much.
That's actually belting with head voice but it's still very impressive.
Fun fact none of you knew:
When a lioness has cubs, she stops making love to the lion. The lion gets jealous, sometimes so jealous that it eats the children. You would think this upsets the lioness, but quite the opposite, they make love again as if the children never existed. This terrifies me....
@@-Commit-arson- you ruined the FORNICATION UNDER CONSENT OF THE KING
*Mischa drops his jaw*
"And i'm askin...WHY LORDDD IF THIS HOW I DIE LORRDDD" Gives me chills I love it so much
sammmeeeeeeeeeee
I just realised that Jane floating is representing her falling from the rollercoaster, with the umbrellas being other rides.
The music at this point sort of sounds like carnival music if you listen closely. I think this is so cool
omg u just gave me crazy shivers. i didnt realize that at all
I just realized when she says "Like John and me" she's not talking about the Saint, she's talking about John Doe.
considering the story behind St John (I'm guessing John the baptist, IDK much about religious stories) it could be, as they both lost their heads and Jane's song definitely has some religious undertones (soul, the way it sounds like a christian funeral song, St. Peter ETC.)
I think it’s probably just meant to have a double meaning
Jane Doe is the name given to unidentified deceased females and when she referred to "John" in the song it has to do with the name unidentified deceased males are given which is John Smith. They are the universal names given to anyone unknown, just something common.
@@freddieday651 I thought it was Jane Doe and John Doe not Jane Doe and John Smith
@@freddieday651 I was taught it was John & Jane Doe...
She doesn't remember anything, so at the "I hear the anguish of the street" line, it's what she _hoped_ was true she *_hoped_* that people knew, or cared that she died.
I care🥺
Or she could hear from her decapitated head on the ground.
i always thought of the line as people reacting to her decapitated body and she could still hear as a decapitated head can still be conscious for up to 30 seconds
As great as the show is, Jane and Karnak just make me realise how badly i wish the whole musical was in this creepy victorian carnival style
Rightttt these two nust scratch the right part of the brain in such a delicious way, the vibes are just perfect with them! This kind of creepy, ethereal thing.
SAME, it was actually Jane Doe that got me to check out this musical in the first place! I initially thought that with the introduction + description of death that the whole theming of this was going to be "cast of creepy carnies tell you about their oddly fitting/ironic deaths at the carnival they worked at", with Jane being just /one/ of many spooks. All the same, I adored Ride the Cyclone. These kids made me bawl my eyes out LOL
there are some productions that take it more in that direction! thats definitely how id direct it if i ever were to.
i remember the actress herself of jane doe said that the original bg story of jane doe was that she was the conductor's secret child and that the choir conductor was supposed to ride the rollercoaster but instead jane doe did and ended up losing her life, striked by the guilt and grief, the conductor died shortly afterwards from a heart attack.
now this is just based from what i remembered in the tiktok when the actress herself was talking about the bg story
EDIT: this is based on the actress' own personal bg story for jane doe :>
that wasn’t ever written into the show in any form, that was just the actress’ personal thought on jane’s backstory! /nm
@@dxntloseurhead yesss!! like what u said
@@dxntloseurhead this has nothing to do with what yous were talking about what does /nm mean?
@@anniem4207 /nm means not mad
THAT WAS THE WEAKEST ASS CLAPPING AT THE END IVE EVER HEARD-
Don't worry, professional audio recording of plays just does that; it makes everything that's not on the stage super quiet. If you were to hear a bootleg version that someone had just recorded on their phone, you'd hear what the audience ACTUALLY sounded like. 😄
@@rachelsyrup thank God, I thought they were just some lazy slugs 🤣
@@rachelsyrup what kind of recording is this? Like who recorded it? And if it’s a professional recording or smth why can’t I find it anywhere? Every bootleg I’ve seen gets taken off
@@avasmith9349 copyright (probably)
@@avasmith9349 Maybe this recording is used as a teaching tool or a model for the next productions. Many musicals have this kind of recording for the next casts to learn in rehearsal.
She even moves in character!! There's this tim burton-y quality to her every movement... The professionalism is just *chef's kiss*
If the make rtc into a film I think Tim burton should direct and Emily Rohm to reprise her role as Jane doe
@@lukescutt1 omgg the idea of rtc getting a tim burton movie excites me way too much- ahdhajshqjjsjdjfjf
live laugh emily rohm
@@kaleidoscopicc9155yes😍😍😍
@@michelle.b9224 MISA PFP
the lungs on this woman are insane
Real
AKSHULLY it's more her very skilled vocal placement (larynx, mouth, tongue, lips). 😊
For sure the breath support plays a huge role, and in any case, she is one of the best darn stage singers I've seen a recording of in a great many years! ❤❤
"im so happy rn i could never come down!!"
"My Turn! :D"
"aWe mAn.."
💀
They're both so adorable. ^∆^
I like the theory that she was added so the other kids would vote for her and they could accept their own deaths, and that he couldn't actually bring anyone back. She was the main reason Ocean was able to accept her death in the end, afterall.
There is so much going on here that I need to say.
I have not seen Ride the Cyclone. I do not know the plot or anything else about it. However, without any prior knowledge of this musical I still know so much of this character. The actress embodies her beautifully and her voice is so haunting. The way she's able to sing with such power without any effort visible on her face or in her body language, the way her voice doesn't waver even as she's flipping around upside down and all over the stage. The costume work and the way her skirt stays fixed to her legs as if gravity is a mere suggestion to it. The lyrics manage to tell you how absolutely heartbroken and lost Jane feels without her ever even saying it outright. This song is absolutely fucking beautiful.
Absolutely this! I'd recommend the show, but do be warned that Jane has a shockingly minor presence despite being the most interesting character (to me, at least.) There are moments worth witnessing though. The tone can feel quite "whiplashy" at times, but it seems to be intentional with how vastly different each character's song and presentation is.
Ya know what’s worse than death? Being forgotten. We all live our lives doing stuff to try to find our place in the world and in the end, some of the gravestones have John Doe or Jane Doe ingraved.
“They say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time” -Banksy
It's heartbreaking to think that so many families never knew what happened to their loved ones. I hope all their souls find peace.
@@daughteroflust6666 same
I want to give the lighting and stage directors a soft smooch on the forehead for this whole musical, but the way jane's hair makes angel wings on the backdrop makes me go insane. if anyone knows of a wideview angle of this song I'd love to see it!
OMFG I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO SAW THAT
At 4:00 when she goes “and I’m asking why lord” it’s clear she’s angry at God for stealing the one thing she could’ve taken in death, her memories.
It’s the way she tried twice that has me lowkey sobbing every time. Like they were Fuckin’ teens man, shit hits different when you remember they were just kids and still childish y’know? Can you imagine being a kid and watching everyone else get a ‘turn’ and then it’s your turn and there’s just blank..? That’s a whole new kind of devastating imo.
DUDE IT FUCKING BREAKS ME EVERY TIME
It's devastating shit indeed.
right? i cried at least two times while watching the musical 💀
I love Jane's song the most. The fact that everyone else sang about their own desires/dreams but Jane could only sing about her anguish of having no identity. It's so hauntingly beautiful and I get the chills every time I listen to this. Also the way her voice was so clear and strong while flying through the air is so impressive, I'm in awe.
Also I just realized this, is Jane wearing her doll's head? That's why her face doesn't match her hands and her hair is a classic doll haircut.
Yep! It's why she appears with a headless doll
if you look at her eyes... are they full black? like that of a doll?
@@Mahathemime89 yep
Yeah because she lost her head in the accident
@@spacekiddo3034 she really replaces it with the dolls head.
was trying to go to bed, this started playing out of no where from my TURNED OFF computer
it's a sign
Its the ghost of jane doe
I think you need a ghost repellant talisman
I've had my laptop randomly restart while it's supposed to be asleep and play whole videos before, I know how terrifying that can be.
am I the only one that just found out the way she’s flying around is supposed to emulate the cyclone’s path when they all died??
wut.
3:01 oh my god i just realized that this part represents the roller coaster going up and up! and the tumbling down
phenomenal
no bc honestly the applause in this video when she was done was so bad idec they should have been SCREAMING for her at the end of that shit. as an actress, who has been lifted into the air before, it is so hard to sing like that, since you rarely have any GROUND to place ur feet on (feeling the ground under your feet is a HUGE component of belting) and the fact they SPUN HER IN CIRCLES and she still didnt crack or sound like.. well like shes literally being FLUNG AROUND IN THE AIR. one of the best technically advanced songs, i cannot imagine the practice and control she has to have to do this shit if i was there during that performance you wouldve heard me screaming at the end because god damn.
fr that was a lame ass audience I would've been standing up and throwing roses
Honestly the audience sounds like a small preview audience. She probably got better reactions from larger audiences
I feel like musical songs are steadily getting harder and harder. Vocalists be wildin' these days.
They always have been, just depends which musicals. Some are easier and some have always been harder.
I don’t know if anyone else realized this, Jane Doe’s head is her doll’s head. In the beginning we see her headless and when she enters she has this freakish doll appearance, her doll is headless as well.
Also the line “time eats all his children” is a reference to the Titan Kronos (also written as Chronos) who was the god of time who would eat his children so that a prophecy about his death/overthrow wouldn’t come to fruition
Everyone already knew this
@@klee_.fangirl I haven’t seen anyone talk about it and no one mentions the line about “time eats all his children in the end”
@@connyaaaa5555 I’m not trying to diss here but the myth of cronos is quite popular in western cultures. It also has a double meaning and not just an allusion to the myth since she also points at the audience at this part. The head thing is a popular theory in the fandom. These are well known so people don’t really talk about them like how no one really teaches someone that the sky is blue, but Peculiar Icon didn’t need to be rude about it, have a nice day/night :)
@@klee_.fangirl I didn't😕
But he didn’t though, he never ate zeus
And to think she most likely won the doll at the carnival the same carnival she died at
That's what I keep thinking!! :)
This audience did not give her the applause she deserved
My toxic trait is thinking I can do this
hehe same
You guys can do it
Here's how I do it: Unlock your whistle register, and you can hit the higher notes! I believe in you /gen
I ACTUALLY DID THIS FOR A CHOIR THING ⁉️ i had a really bad throat-ache afterwards
Joke’s on you, I’ve done it!! /j
(I performed this song but without the flipping part)
I love when the whole cast is singing and you can just hear Noel's voice louder in some scenes where he like overtakes everyone minus Jane 😭 I love Noel so much 🫶
LMAO this is why I listen to the live version his voice is so loud/pos
4:34 apparently these notes are meant to represent the moment the coaster went off
as in like the screams?? sry i’m curious thats so cool
yep, a theory (i think) about her last "ah" or whatever its called is when she hit the ground
Also!!! In the actual original version of this song, those notes arent even there! Apparently Emily just sang them during a rehearsal and they stuck! (Look up "The Ballad of Jane Doe 2015" for source on the first statement; second statement was found in RUclips comments, so take with a grain of salt). Just an interesting little tidbit :)