Comparing 6000 WATT Resistors, Infratech versus Bromic Heaters

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
  • Who knew Infrared Heaters could be so complex?! Thanks to my sponsor www.infratech-usa.com we shall figure it out! Follow them at / infratechusa
    Want to win a heater? Enter here: forms.gle/UmHWTpzDxP8XYukx6
    Here’s my home address to pick up MY heaters: electroboom.com/share/address...
    Get my new MERCH: electroboom.creator-spring.com
    Thanks for your support @ / electroboom
    Post your submissions to: / electroboom
    My Facebook: / electroboom
    My Twitter: / electroboomguy
    My other articles: www.electroboom.com/
    Thanks to CircuitSpecialists.com and keysight.com for proving my essential lab tools and giveaways.
    Checkout my Amazon picks (my affiliate link): www.amazon.com/shop/Electroboom
    Below are my Super Patrons with support to the extreme!
    Nicholas Moller at www.usbmemorydirect.com
    Sam Lutfi
    Peter Membrey
    J4yC33
    My sponsors and top patrons: www.electroboom.com/?page_id=727
    Enter your school for tools: goo.gl/forms/VAgRre8rLVvA1cEi2
    By: Mehdi Sadaghdar
    0:00 Intro
    1:08 Assembling Bromic Infrared Heater
    3:43 Assembling Infratech Infrared Heater
    5:16 Attempt to Turn on the Heaters
    7:50 Explaining Outdoor Infrared Heaters
    9:30 Infratech vs Bromic Comparison Document
    13:06 Testing Heaters Temperature Profile
    18:37 Analysing Bromic’s Feedback
    19:26 Comparison Conclusion
  • НаукаНаука

Комментарии • 3,1 тыс.

  • @wow-roblox8370
    @wow-roblox8370 2 года назад +5337

    “it doesn’t block any radiation at all” casually breaking the laws of physics here, nice!

    • @wow-roblox8370
      @wow-roblox8370 2 года назад +305

      Also, it is black… meaning I can see that it absorbs light radiation…

    • @Maric18
      @Maric18 2 года назад +230

      yeah lol i was about to comment "if it doesnt block any radiation how come i can see it?"

    • @FAB1150
      @FAB1150 2 года назад +154

      I mean, it _could_ have been a material which is transparent to IR. It isn't, but it could

    • @thestralspirit
      @thestralspirit 2 года назад +91

      @@Maric18 you can see lots of things that are transparent to infrared radiation. Or I can reverse this statement. Water is a great example of something that is transparent in optical and almost completely opaque to infrared

    • @svampebob007
      @svampebob007 2 года назад +40

      @@thestralspirit plastic bags are opaque to visible light, but transparent to infrared.
      I'm guessing their guard is made of plastic? 😅

  • @danielfernandes1010
    @danielfernandes1010 2 года назад +1827

    "If there is a way, electricity will find it."
    Golden words.

  • @melihcelik9797
    @melihcelik9797 Год назад +463

    You forget that he is an excellent engineer from the usual videos. The testing was on point, and data presentation was really understandable, and made rhe comparison more alive.

  • @maker0824
    @maker0824 Год назад +297

    Gotta love the “lifetime warrantee” that ends after 7 years

    • @andrewd1455
      @andrewd1455 Год назад +33

      1 year warranty on the parts that matter.....

    • @yobtnirp
      @yobtnirp Год назад +17

      Yup cause a humans lifetime is only 7 years

    • @2009dudeman
      @2009dudeman Год назад +4

      Thats heading towards the concept of "Lifetime fluid" in cars that used CVT transmissions. Lifetime just meant the trans fluid lasted as long as the transmission. When one was dead so was the other.

    • @MrCh0o
      @MrCh0o Год назад

      @@andrewd1455 I dunno about that, I think heating elements matter just as much in that instance. The rest is just the structural metal bits, where I'd imagine a failure would likely occur extremely early if at all; the reflector and the insulation where about the only thing that could go wrong would be having holes in the insulation from the get-go or the reflector literally falling off as soon as you install the thing; and then there's a bit of wires running through the device with no circuitry whatsoever, but it's just wires with one end coming out to connect to the heating element and the other to connect to the power source - the only major failure I can envision for these is insulation melting off over a long period of time, which I guess is a valid concern.
      Still, the heating elements and the structural metal are probably the largest contributors to the cost, and out of these two the heating elements are much more likely to fail, especially over a period of time, I'd imagine (from the quartz having imperfections that eventually cause it to crack, to the wire wrapped around it having quality issues which might lead to uneven heat distribution)

    • @MrRedsjack
      @MrRedsjack Год назад +3

      It's a dog lifetime 😂😂😂

  • @marsgizmo
    @marsgizmo 2 года назад +2712

    We need to have "Certified by Mehdi", that will be the only needed certification and most practical one 😎
    Great comparison!

    • @Mckawaiiswag
      @Mckawaiiswag 2 года назад +3

      Oof

    • @alsa7irTh
      @alsa7irTh 2 года назад +14

      Nice saying, but you need to know that the certifications comes by test with standard method not by just experimenting ;). However, I really believe that mehdi can come with his own standard test method if he wanted to :)

    • @Tinil0
      @Tinil0 2 года назад +23

      You got the wrong person, this is obviously Medhi not Mehdi. The addressed package confirms it.

    • @marsgizmo
      @marsgizmo 2 года назад +2

      @@Tinil0 haha 😄

    • @Nosiu
      @Nosiu 2 года назад +6

      Mehdified*

  • @pesterenan
    @pesterenan 2 года назад +2190

    You did a fair comparison with a lot of points and even pointed out what they were doing wrong! So awesome!

    • @MrRulz-oc1pv
      @MrRulz-oc1pv 2 года назад +40

      funny would it be if both are from the same company just fake names lol.

    • @mateuspires7282
      @mateuspires7282 2 года назад +4

      Salve Renan

    • @homebrew07
      @homebrew07 2 года назад +2

      @@MrRulz-oc1pv I feel like that would violate US Anti Trust laws

    • @iwinrar5207
      @iwinrar5207 2 года назад +2

      @@homebrew07 sadly stuff like that happens all the time. Sometimes they will put in small print but often not so much

    • @contoh-oj9eq
      @contoh-oj9eq 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/ceh6b9fekf4/видео.html

  • @91795jc
    @91795jc 2 года назад +67

    20:15 - I was worried there for a second, then I checked the link.

    • @slworld
      @slworld Год назад +9

      Haha "You think im crazy?" 😅

    • @danek_hren
      @danek_hren Год назад +2

      Lol, I also clicked on it

    • @brightypg3d988
      @brightypg3d988 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@slworldcrazy? I was crazy once.

    • @Cheesecake-2018
      @Cheesecake-2018 7 месяцев назад

      @@brightypg3d988they locked me in a room

    • @lemonsniffs
      @lemonsniffs 3 месяца назад

      @@brightypg3d988 They locked me in a room.

  • @scumbaag
    @scumbaag Год назад +19

    The motif/cage on the front is there to keep any large pieces from falling if the element breaks, keeping fingers away is more of a bonus. I worked in a factory years ago, and one of the tubes in a light broke one day, about 35-40 feet above us. There were no cages on the lights as per OSHA regulations- a coworker of mine happened to be hunched over working on something directly under. The intact 3/4 remainder of the broken light was vertical when it hit the lower side of his back. It went almost straight through, deep enough to puncture his liver. He recovered, and got a nice fat check after all was said and done.

    • @MrCh0o
      @MrCh0o Год назад +1

      Ouch. Can't imagine getting cookie-cuttered by a tube of glass down my liver, yikes

  • @maxlin7986
    @maxlin7986 2 года назад +2202

    I have a feeling that Infratech knew about the Bromic Heaters document and wanted you to help them debunk them, that's why they were so confident.
    At 9:47, that asterisk really sounded my asterisk detector, since one asterisk can just say "as long as package has been dropped from 3,000,000 light years."

    • @stefanvalchev8066
      @stefanvalchev8066 2 года назад +19

      i think there is a scenario to beat the competitor of INFRATECH.Not good mate

    • @emilianoperezdominguez8642
      @emilianoperezdominguez8642 2 года назад +15

      0:31 the LEGENDARY can MADE LAUGH, the BEST OLD TIMES

    • @jeremyduplessis2334
      @jeremyduplessis2334 2 года назад +1

      You mean rectovey

    • @long_tissue
      @long_tissue 2 года назад +18

      The problem then, is that they gave Mehdi a different model than the one Bromic is "comparing" to

    • @NeinStein
      @NeinStein 2 года назад +2

      One problem when one can chose the competition at will

  • @GadgetAddict
    @GadgetAddict 2 года назад +1553

    Lifetime warranty*
    * 1 year parts, 7 years elements
    Even cats have a longer "lifetime" than that.

    • @ponchorodriges8460
      @ponchorodriges8460 2 года назад +173

      they send a hitman after 7 years

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 2 года назад +29

      Maybe they have low expectations of humanity's survival. Frankly, so do I. ;-)

    • @Michael-kp4bd
      @Michael-kp4bd 2 года назад +15

      @@ponchorodriges8460 lmao if they put that much effort into their warranties, they’d probably have the most competent customer service in the industry (Ignoring the side effects of having to get murdered)

    • @BenjaminCronce
      @BenjaminCronce 2 года назад +21

      Reminds me of a car transmission oil that "didn't need to be changed because it lasted the lifetime of the transmission". What they didn't tell you is the expected lifetime of the transmission is 100k miles (aka warranty coverage) assuming you don't change the oil. But it'll last much much longer if you actually change the oil.

    • @virt1one
      @virt1one 2 года назад

      And in the buiness, that's what we call FRAUD. You can't just lie, drop an asterisk beside it, and explain that it's a lie at the bottom in fine print. You can only go so far with an asterisk like that, and that one crosses the line.
      Also those reflectors had the same profile and looked pretty similar. Unless there's some material or thickness differences, I agree, nothing "magical about them". Probably made on the same assembly line, one's just cut a little longer.
      Clearly they were trying to BS you about the guard on the front not blocking radiation. I hate it when tech support just lies to my face.

  • @epicrodtezla3228
    @epicrodtezla3228 2 года назад +40

    Am currently doing diploma in electrical and electronics Engineering but you are one of the Engineers on youtube that always inspire me to learn and advance more especially the way you deeply analysis and experiment in a humourous way thanx you Mr. Medhi 🙂🙂

  • @trevinated
    @trevinated Год назад +2

    Just discovered your channel while looking for heating options for my deck. I'm in surrey, so basically same temps outside as you.
    Love your content, and it's given me some thing to consider. Thanks !

  • @grekygrek
    @grekygrek 2 года назад +1518

    This is legendary....the way you measured, mapped, and presented the data was incredible. Very professional and always hilarious. Good stuff brother.

    • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
      @BariumCobaltNitrog3n 2 года назад +5

      That seat heater!

    • @Jerseygamer880
      @Jerseygamer880 2 года назад +2

      So professional when he get shocked but your right

    • @grekygrek
      @grekygrek 2 года назад +15

      @@Jerseygamer880 he's the most professional at getting shocked bro lol

    • @Zandonus
      @Zandonus 2 года назад

      It was credible*. And hilarious.

    • @grekygrek
      @grekygrek Год назад

      @@Zandonus but i am not implying that it was easy to believe...but rather that the amount of work was awesome. So...not really a correction...

  • @r374rb3d
    @r374rb3d 2 года назад +148

    Mehdi: "...I'll leave my address in the description..."
    Me: Are you insane dude? *checks description* A link? Is it a rickroll? *clicks anyway because i need to know*
    Oh... I should have expected that :)

    • @nishchaygupta2653
      @nishchaygupta2653 2 года назад +24

      Lmao I went to check too since I too was shocked that he put his address in the description. It was a good laugh.

    • @MartinFinnerup
      @MartinFinnerup 2 года назад +14

      Good. I was starting to think I was the only one who thought that would be insane. xD
      It's a good thing Mehdi isn't (that) dumb.

    • @hexagonist23
      @hexagonist23 2 года назад +1

      Actually it isn't too difficult to derive his address from the videos. He shows the surroundings of his house which can easily be used to find the address.

    • @mastershooter64
      @mastershooter64 2 года назад +1

      @@hexagonist23 Technically we have the address of every single person on earth, google earth lol we can see the whole earth

    • @ThePlumbeus
      @ThePlumbeus 2 года назад

      Got me too. Still worth clicking though.

  • @waynehixenbaugh2159
    @waynehixenbaugh2159 Год назад

    Love the video and all the effort and data you put forth. I was heading down the Bromic path but you have changed my mind. I have a large 20x26 porch so I'm gonna need a few Heaters. Keep it up!!

  • @Zerkini
    @Zerkini 2 года назад

    I've honestly been watching your videos for a while. Every time I watch one I enjoy it. That's for both the informative and comedy portions! Only today have I subscribed. I wasn't sure I was ready to take the next step with you. I have commitment issues with youtube content creators. But you've earned it. Thanks for the laughs and the videos.

  • @LordHonkInc
    @LordHonkInc 2 года назад +359

    Gotta love that companies can just define "lifetime warranty" to be an arbitrary number of years in the fine print. I get that "lifetime" is _technically_ not a standardized unit of time, but come on. That's like the old saying "give a man a fire and he'll be warm for the night; set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life"

    • @Trahloc
      @Trahloc 2 года назад +30

      That seems *exactly* how they define lifetime.

    • @ruben_balea
      @ruben_balea 2 года назад +14

      Lifetime warranty is more or less like limited edition...

    • @K3M15A
      @K3M15A 2 года назад +37

      some define lifetime warranty as the lifetime of the product, and it only remains a product for as long as they want, after which it is no longer a product, therefore its lifetime is over. so yes, very arbitrary, and utterly meaningless

    • @TrueHolarctic
      @TrueHolarctic 2 года назад +2

      In us companies are obliged to cover warranties for up to ~4 years after that its up to the goodwill of the manufacturer

    • @Trahloc
      @Trahloc 2 года назад +11

      @@TrueHolarctic Happen to know based on what regulation / court case / law / etc? I'd love to have that as a reference when I call up customer service. The most popular warranty protection I'm aware of is Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act but that doesn't have any requirement for 4 years to my knowledge unless that was established in a court case somewhere?

  • @TheTobiasandersen95
    @TheTobiasandersen95 2 года назад +370

    Yea okay - I was like "No way he's posting his home address, that's a mess waiting to happen!" But I see I was worried no reason :D
    And yes, I may think you're a bit crazy Mehdi, you almost lit ur pants on fire for a seatwarmer :D It's okay tho, I love you for it

  • @masonoliver8818
    @masonoliver8818 2 года назад +1

    I do electrical for a big restaurant in Dallas that has around 20 infratech heaters the same size as what you got and the elements last around 2 winters being used for around 12 hours a day, 4-5 months of the year. Changing these out is fairly easy but the main problem we always come across is the crimps on the end of the wires that go on the filaments burn up rather quickly and leave a good chance to short to the casing of the heater once the wire melts off

  • @ucantSQ
    @ucantSQ 2 года назад +7

    The only man who can make space heaters interesting for twenty minutes.

  • @CensoredByYouTube.
    @CensoredByYouTube. 2 года назад +469

    Should have measured temperature off the top of the units while they were running. If the Bromic's top was cooler for _its surface area/Watts consumed_ than the Infratech's, it would help support their claim of a more efficient reflector.

    • @jacobellinger8027
      @jacobellinger8027 2 года назад +1

      he'd have to turn the whole thing upside-down because heat from the open end rises.

    • @fukkitful
      @fukkitful 2 года назад +30

      @@jacobellinger8027 Shouldn't matter, which every unit had a more efficient reflector would still be cooler. Infrared doesn't heat the air.

    • @nelsontraversi8307
      @nelsontraversi8307 2 года назад +2

      @@jacobellinger8027 could he mount it on the vertical way.. and measure front and back?

    • @bardsamok9221
      @bardsamok9221 8 месяцев назад

      It doesn't have a superior reflector, it's marketing lies. This is already explained and obvious from the energy draw and heat output. If you're still confused watch the video again.

  • @greatwhitenorthcanada9600
    @greatwhitenorthcanada9600 2 года назад +623

    WAGO connectors are what you need for testing stuff. Easy to switch between and NEC approved.

    • @DISOPtv
      @DISOPtv 2 года назад +97

      Um, sparks are this guys MO, so no

    • @dragpix
      @dragpix 2 года назад +26

      where is the fun in that though haha

    • @BlokeOzzie
      @BlokeOzzie 2 года назад +45

      Mmmm, I love WAGO beef.

    • @georgebayliss3291
      @georgebayliss3291 2 года назад +6

      @@BlokeOzzie I wish I could give you more than one like.

    • @TehBIGrat
      @TehBIGrat 2 года назад +15

      Connectors? You are not from around here are you?

  • @Owen_loves_Butters
    @Owen_loves_Butters 2 года назад +4

    7:06 and this is one reason we use split phase power, both hot wires are at 120V potential to ground, but 180° out of phase so across the two, you get 240V. If you get shocked, unless you touch both hot wires (which almost never happens), you'll never get a 240V shock.

  • @enricgarrigasanchez260
    @enricgarrigasanchez260 2 года назад +4

    You are amazing. You made a completely unbiased (and very thorough) report by testing the heaters yourself. And at the end you even just give them for free. Well sir thank you for existing

  • @goodgollygod3167
    @goodgollygod3167 2 года назад +829

    Bro this dude always delivers remember "Hes and electrical engineer which means he can do anything"

    • @satwiksahu486
      @satwiksahu486 2 года назад +38

      Reminds me of that Mould effect video where he gave my personal favorite quote "this is a mechanical problem and as an electrical engineer I am overqualified to deal with it"

    • @moya9450
      @moya9450 2 года назад +14

      @Ben 🅥 Please don't spam. You just gained a dislike

    • @Eric-zz5ij
      @Eric-zz5ij 2 года назад +11

      @@moya9450 OH NO! A DISLIKE! WHATEVER WILL THE BOT DO?

    • @sammiller6631
      @sammiller6631 2 года назад +1

      @@Eric-zz5ij They won't do much, once they get reported enough.

    • @moya9450
      @moya9450 2 года назад

      @@Eric-zz5ij Probably you like Spams

  • @borninator
    @borninator 2 года назад +410

    This is some cold hard science in a video about heaters. Love the 3d charts. 🔥

    • @EagleZH23
      @EagleZH23 2 года назад +6

      @Don't read profile photo I won't

    • @quack1119
      @quack1119 2 года назад +4

      @Ben 🅥 no

    • @JustPyroYT
      @JustPyroYT 2 года назад +2

      @Don't read profile photo no Problem.

    • @JustPyroYT
      @JustPyroYT 2 года назад +6

      @Ben 🅥 Tank you for the Chance of giving you a dislike :)

    • @karstenbley4608
      @karstenbley4608 2 года назад +3

      Dafuq how is this comment posted 18hr ago but the video only 30 min ago

  • @johnsebastian963
    @johnsebastian963 Год назад

    What a well organized and informative video. Presented a wide variety of useful information perfectly. Keep up the great work.

  • @3v068
    @3v068 2 года назад +1

    Mehdi, thank you so much for your videos. Even with your trolling videos, you do teach valuable lessons with electricity, and electronics that lots of people should really know! You have even helped me with starting my own electronics projects, so thank you so much! Keep making stuff.

  • @tau9632
    @tau9632 2 года назад +193

    I wasn't expecting much from this video, technology or science-wise.. but you show that a curious mind can put on the scientific lense and look at *anything* to understand it better, more deeply, and figure out causes for things we see in the world.. awesome!

    • @bigrob966
      @bigrob966 2 года назад +6

      ... Have you never seen Medhi at work?

    • @truthsRsung
      @truthsRsung 2 года назад +1

      U must be a new here.
      Welcome.

  • @switchthechannel6317
    @switchthechannel6317 2 года назад +271

    This has to be one of Mehdi's best videos; very long, with tons of experimental data. I hope he does more like this.

    • @hackerulroman
      @hackerulroman 2 года назад +7

      And, even so, the best part isn’t even in the video itself. It’s in the link for the address

    • @koro000
      @koro000 2 года назад +3

      Wrong person buddy this is clearly Medhi.

    • @richardpike8748
      @richardpike8748 Год назад

      @@hackerulroman yes I clicked that too out of curiosity, it's hilarious

  • @alexpaulhaywood9464
    @alexpaulhaywood9464 2 года назад +9

    For temporary connections, Wago 222 or 221 you will find very handy as they won't damage the conductors and are available at 32 and 40 amps. The 222's have a testing point too.

    • @trace9130
      @trace9130 Месяц назад

      But he won't have as many chances to make sparks and explosions. lol

  • @thehuntered
    @thehuntered Год назад

    I've seen many of your videos for their entertainment value, but this one with the breakdown of your testing is what got me to subscribe, cheers boss, looking forward to seeing more

  • @amanrehman8281
    @amanrehman8281 2 года назад +86

    I paused the video halfway to come down here and say: I have never seen anyone work so hard on any review paid/unpaid and work so damn hard to make a fair comparison. And you mention that paid conversation as well. You have my respect, sir.

    • @AttilaTheHun333333
      @AttilaTheHun333333 2 года назад +20

      You think he's crazy?

    • @BrianDickens4
      @BrianDickens4 2 года назад +4

      @@AttilaTheHun333333 "Think"? 😋

    • @dalfifran7572
      @dalfifran7572 2 года назад +7

      @@AttilaTheHun333333 He's a bit crazy though... But not crazy enough to share his home address publicly. :D

    • @manadoria
      @manadoria 2 года назад +4

      You should check out Project Farm's channel on YT for some decent product comparisons.

    • @amanrehman8281
      @amanrehman8281 2 года назад

      @@AttilaTheHun333333 man all of you should've went along with it XD XD

  • @rhouser1280
    @rhouser1280 2 года назад +72

    0:30 That seat warmer video was one of the funniest video’s you made, I was crying when I watched that! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ornfreetaa2887
    @ornfreetaa2887 2 года назад +1

    This is by far the best product comparison video I have ever seen. Great work Mehdi

  • @dubaacrew
    @dubaacrew Год назад +5

    Absolutely enjoy all your videos. Learning and laughing at the same time!

  • @whitepanth3r
    @whitepanth3r 2 года назад +116

    I really appreciate the honest and accurate testing. You even go above and beyond what I would normally expect from a comparison video. Thank you

  • @thegingineer0
    @thegingineer0 2 года назад +64

    By evaluating the profile at 5 feet against the floor, I think that's more useful information, since that's the profile that would affect you a few feet off the ground it it's mounted at 8 feet. Or in other words, your face would feel that pattern, which is more important than the floor.

    • @seraphina985
      @seraphina985 2 года назад +2

      Indeed, also the vast majority of the cross sectional area of the human body is above the waist. Most of that being the torso so that is the area of your body that. You might not feel that as directly due to the insulating layers of your clothing but it is still contributing a lot to reducing the inevitable heat loss that would still occur even through your clothing. By heating the outer parts of your clothing even if it doesn't manage to reverse the temperature gradient through the layers of your clothing it will at least reduce it. This in effect would aid your clothing in reducing the body heat lost to the environment by reducing the thermal gradient that is drawing energy away from you. End result is a non trivial fraction of the heat the air is absorbing from the outer layers of your clothing was deposited there by the heater and thus is not being drawn from your skin. Since we experience temperature in those relative terms from receptors in our skin detecting that energy gain or loss this would also make you feel warmer even if it is less noticeable given the more significant heating of any exposed skin.

  • @senoleker
    @senoleker 2 года назад +7

    7:35 touch enabled gloves :) LOL

    • @ebtv445
      @ebtv445 Год назад

      When the imposter is sus!!

  • @axelchill5395
    @axelchill5395 2 года назад

    Incredible job. Very good measurements and information. Another high-quality video work 💪

  • @ncialex4009
    @ncialex4009 2 года назад +132

    "You'd have to talk to engineering on that"
    This does put a smile to my face

    • @danoconnell1833
      @danoconnell1833 2 года назад +12

      Agreed! It's a classic dodge.

    • @Boaty_McBoatface_
      @Boaty_McBoatface_ 2 года назад +42

      @@danoconnell1833 why should a customer service representative answer in depth questions surrounding the physics of the product when they aren't an engineer? I would love to give my customers all the answers, because I want them to be satisfied, but I'm also not gonna throw myself under the bus, by telling them the truth about something that would be better communicated by an engineer. I just fix things. The rep in the video just answers the phone and refers issues to the appropriate parties.

    • @danoconnell1833
      @danoconnell1833 2 года назад +6

      @@Boaty_McBoatface_ My answer doesn't apply to all reps. It's a dodge for companies that fudge the numbers in advertising.

    • @dimitar4y
      @dimitar4y 2 года назад

      @@Boaty_McBoatface_ You are much too young to see how much evil is packed behind such philosophies of demeaning a human into nothing more than a fucking answering machine to take you to the right department to get ripped off. It's no different than the guards at the camps directing the, "guests", where to go.

    • @ncialex4009
      @ncialex4009 2 года назад +3

      @@danoconnell1833 what i mean is little did the customer service know he's talking to an electrical engineering guy, not as an offense to those customer service.

  • @jaakkopontinen
    @jaakkopontinen 2 года назад +220

    The standout for me was how incredibly similar the products were. Makes sense, though, this sort of tech is surely pretty dialed down.

    • @Shaun.Stephens
      @Shaun.Stephens 2 года назад +30

      It's very mature tech. We had one of these radiant type heaters with reflector when I was a kid in the 1970s.

    • @Unethical.Dodgson
      @Unethical.Dodgson 2 года назад +7

      Yeah there's very little you can do to improve these now.
      Improving power factor, using material that is much smoother and free of perfections, and improving resistors is about as much as you can really do at this point.

    • @feldamar2
      @feldamar2 2 года назад +9

      @@Unethical.Dodgson Well there IS one element they could improve. The safety guard! With a more reflective coating and thinner profile they could keep the safety but reduce how much it absorbs/reflects infrared radiation. Honestly, that's really the only thing left you could really do. As you said, not much else to do.

    • @Tinil0
      @Tinil0 2 года назад +8

      Giant resistor with the parabolic mirror. Both are essentially "solved" for now so yeah, not much a company can do to get a competitive advantage, at least for performance. You would have to look at durability, customer service, quality of components (Although these are essentially identical too), and most importantly price. And I guess aesthetics, but you can't really reliably just "improve aesthetics" of your product, that's subjective.

    • @jaakkopontinen
      @jaakkopontinen 2 года назад +3

      Yeah, it's a race to make the lowest grade energy output (heat) in the most efficient way possible. Kind of a brain teaser, too, energy is dearly generated by heating water to generate steam to get momentum from a turbine in order to generate electricity, which then gets sent out only to be converted back into heat :P
      But that's the way it goes.

  • @TheSaintOMS
    @TheSaintOMS 2 года назад +7

    We need more honest and scientific reviews like this. Love it!

  • @nusermane1076
    @nusermane1076 2 года назад +214

    Don’t know if either of these companies was expecting such a engineering type of comparison 😅

    • @zawhernos2541
      @zawhernos2541 2 года назад +21

      If this level of comparison happened in smartphone world
      Lg would be still selling in millions

    • @flandrble
      @flandrble 2 года назад +12

      @@zawhernos2541 With LG gone, we will no longer have any smartphone innovation.

    • @zawhernos2541
      @zawhernos2541 2 года назад +8

      @@flandrble apple has that no port, no button, no hole innovation with eco friendly bs
      Don't worry
      We'll lose more 🙂

    • @blaircox1589
      @blaircox1589 2 года назад +1

      I didn't think I would like this, but more of these please

    • @XenZenSen
      @XenZenSen 2 года назад +4

      @@flandrble Sony is actually pretty good, so is Asus's gaming line, they're just pricy. I refuse to buy phones without headphone jacks ever again. It's so nice to have a modern too of the line phone with a good internal amp and a headphone jack.

  • @JustPyroYT
    @JustPyroYT 2 года назад +16

    "You think I'm Crazy?!!!"
    Yes, for a short Moment I thought that....

  • @lasagnahog7695
    @lasagnahog7695 2 года назад

    I really enjoy videos where experts review products. It's, like, Lock Picking Lawyer's whole schtick and it's really engaging. I'd watch a lot more of this sort of content.

  • @JayCJr_
    @JayCJr_ Год назад

    It's been a while since a last watched one of your videos and the quality jump, comparing to the good ol' ones is just atonishing.
    Happy to see everything is going well

  • @ishaanjoshi7420
    @ishaanjoshi7420 2 года назад +14

    7:41 his laugh ..lol

  • @lucaslittmarck2122
    @lucaslittmarck2122 2 года назад +255

    Great second test without the protective grill.
    What was the prices of the heaters?

    • @svampebob007
      @svampebob007 2 года назад +25

      If you have to ask....
      Then maybe ask google :)

    • @charlidog2
      @charlidog2 2 года назад +33

      Yeah. As close as they were, another point of comparison is needed. And price is a good one.

    • @yakovdavidovich7943
      @yakovdavidovich7943 2 года назад +18

      They both seem to be around the $700-900 zone, depending on size etc.

    • @proxyhx2075
      @proxyhx2075 2 года назад +2

      @@yakovdavidovich7943 That's reasonable

    • @engineer0239
      @engineer0239 2 года назад +12

      @@proxyhx2075 Idk... its basically a bit of quartzglass, sheet metal and nichrome wire. This should be very easy to produce. Its not over the moon, but its not great either.

  • @payamtorna2
    @payamtorna2 2 года назад

    Fantastic Mehdi jan! You really did a great job comparing these two heaters!

  • @sayori3939
    @sayori3939 Год назад

    Funnily enough when you talk so firmly with your accent it feels so natural and so good your voice randomly pops in my head whenever I'm messing with something dangerous

  • @sfsagasfsasdsagsfsaasf3868
    @sfsagasfsasdsagsfsaasf3868 2 года назад +42

    wow man thanks i picked up the heaters from your address. they work fine and now i totally wired them fine from watching ur prev video. Thankyou so much 👍

    • @cherriberri8373
      @cherriberri8373 2 года назад

      Sarcasm?

    • @DasAntiNaziBroetchen
      @DasAntiNaziBroetchen 2 года назад +1

      @@cherriberri8373 This fine person right here is just thankful to receive such a generous gift from Mehdi and all you can do is accuse them of sarcasm. Maybe you're just jealous.

  • @michaels543210
    @michaels543210 2 года назад +117

    As a fellow electrical enthiousiast, I approve of the applicable safety requirements during testing. I mean, it’s obvious not to touch any metal objects whatsoever during testlab scenarios. Though it should be mentioned no mechanical engineers are allowed on site.

    • @nloughner2015
      @nloughner2015 2 года назад +4

      I keep one hand behind my back...

    • @shubhampreetsingh8630
      @shubhampreetsingh8630 2 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @thomaswilliams690
      @thomaswilliams690 2 года назад +1

      Mechanical design engineers help produce everything that you can touch though. I think that it only takes an electrician to assemble.
      Seems like an electrical engineer is not necessary.
      I like how you were doing all the mechanical engineering and testing stuff....the right stuff rocket engineer. 😀😀😀😀

    • @nloughner2015
      @nloughner2015 2 года назад

      @@thomaswilliams690 I will give the electrical engineers some live here, us mechanicals couldnt do it alone, and I refuse to do lighting.

    • @michaels543210
      @michaels543210 2 года назад +1

      @@nloughner2015 I’ll happily fix that lighting for you. But please don’t let me assemble anything that requires more than a PZ2 screw driver. Or was it a PH2? Doesn’t matter, both work

  • @dougsteere6814
    @dougsteere6814 2 года назад

    Did like your comparisons I was looking to buy one of the heaters was sure that to get but this helps a lot thank you

  • @pafnutiytheartist
    @pafnutiytheartist Год назад +1

    Mehdi on wireless charger: Terribly inefficient, go save the planet.
    Mehdi on heating the outdoors with 6000 watts: Let me put up two whole videos and a giveaway on it.

  • @frosty9595
    @frosty9595 2 года назад +32

    You put far more effort into this than I expected. Well done.

  • @zephyfoxy
    @zephyfoxy 2 года назад +47

    It's kinda funny watching this because I live in Florida and I've already had the AC on for a few weeks now.

    • @user-jm1rl5nu9x
      @user-jm1rl5nu9x 2 года назад +1

      This video is just posted 20s ago, how can your comment be 17h ago

    • @MoslimMahmood
      @MoslimMahmood 2 года назад

      Patreon privileges damn

    • @mohit25
      @mohit25 2 года назад +1

      @@user-jm1rl5nu9x He is a channel member so he probably gets to see every video 24 hours before its public upload

    • @MoslimMahmood
      @MoslimMahmood 2 года назад +2

      @@user-jm1rl5nu9x unlisted for Patreons only

    • @Zanthum
      @Zanthum 2 года назад

      ... weeks? I've had it on for 2 months I think.

  • @gamingdruce643
    @gamingdruce643 2 года назад +8

    Wait what did medhi say😳
    5:52 o_o

  • @glytchd
    @glytchd 2 года назад +5

    @5:47 - 'I find the Infratech grill more sexy' (Paraphrased) - Agreed! that Grill looks alot more 'sexy' to my eyes, aswell. ;) Luv ur vidz ElectroBOOM!

  • @geniusandmad
    @geniusandmad 2 года назад +44

    "You think i am crazy" only some really curious people know.

    • @Martin-uf4ut
      @Martin-uf4ut 2 года назад +3

      yeah that photo on the link - lol

    • @garvkhanna4490
      @garvkhanna4490 2 года назад

      Yeah He is crazy 🤣🤣

    • @garvkhanna4490
      @garvkhanna4490 2 года назад

      @Darrell Maxie Check his address in the discription.

  • @Parisneo
    @Parisneo 2 года назад +52

    Cool! At first I was skeptic about how you can be fair while being paid, but the tests and explanations seem good enough to me. Nice video as usual.

  • @loopinnerthe
    @loopinnerthe Год назад

    Thank you for doing some proper analysis and showing us how to understand claims that manufacturers make. Well done both suppliers for allowing their products to suffer some impartial scrutiny. Great channel thank you for what you do.

  • @DieuDeMort
    @DieuDeMort 3 месяца назад

    Medhi going, "Remove the front cover... HOW?" Only to flip the heater over to see VERY OBVIOUS screws is something I do WAY too often, lmao

  • @YouTube
    @YouTube 2 года назад +1522

    extremely well made deep dive! ⚡

    • @hexagonist23
      @hexagonist23 2 года назад +665

      bring back the dislike button and get rid of this stupid shorts feature. this is RUclips, not tiktok.

    • @doodoofart1438
      @doodoofart1438 2 года назад +219

      Wait yt responded to a electro boom video 💀

    • @MOOGSTINE
      @MOOGSTINE 2 года назад +249

      You got some nerve showing your face around these parts.

    • @gabo21g7
      @gabo21g7 2 года назад +73

      Neat, I'm glad that at least someone at RUclips itself feels drawn to Electroboom.

    • @HakarDoski
      @HakarDoski 2 года назад +27

      Susan?

  • @Anarchistry
    @Anarchistry 2 года назад +57

    Even it is just a comparison video, it is also entertaining. Love d content

    • @TheLunarMan
      @TheLunarMan 2 года назад +2

      @Ben 🅥 Finally it's beer

    • @CoffeeAddictEvan
      @CoffeeAddictEvan 2 года назад +2

      I wish more comparison videos were like this

  • @Rob-cq1nf
    @Rob-cq1nf 2 года назад

    The data presentation was amazing! And as always very educational and entertaining 👍🔌🔌🔌

  • @bhaktibhandari7379
    @bhaktibhandari7379 2 года назад +8

    1:20 Nobody spares you, *Medhi*
    NOBODY!!
    Not even me

  • @Jon885
    @Jon885 2 года назад +6

    I was gonna say "He's crazy to put his address in the description! No way he actually did that." BAHAHAHAHA

  • @riefqisamudro
    @riefqisamudro 2 года назад +1

    I didn't expect this video to be some kind of elaborate research, but god dang it Mehdi I'm in love with your delivery; critical and scientific. You should make a scientific paper sometimes, the science community needs researcher like you!

  • @francescoquadrio5824
    @francescoquadrio5824 2 года назад

    That is well done testing! I tink this is very helpful to consumers and deserves to be more recognized

  • @TopCat2021
    @TopCat2021 2 года назад +3

    Great video, I learned alot as i haven't given much thought to the differences between heater designs since they are basically IR emitting resistors. Thanks for all the work you put into this video for the rest of us out there.

  • @RussellTeapot
    @RussellTeapot 2 года назад +26

    Usually it's "GIMME DA METER", today it's "GIMME DA HEATER"! No, I'm joking, I don't need the heaters. Pretty interesting comparison though, the idea of putting tape as measuring spots and the all test setup is brilliant!

  • @briancoulomb
    @briancoulomb Год назад +1

    I loved the in depth comparison! You should do a comparison of wago connectors vs wire nuts. I think you could definitely blow some stuff up and settle a heated debate amongst electricians.

  • @Zoldszakall
    @Zoldszakall 2 года назад +4

    me: did he really give out his home address?!
    /me clicks on link
    me not disappointed :D

  • @OsamahBhutta
    @OsamahBhutta 2 года назад +14

    This is probably the most comprehensive comparison of any product I've ever see. Would love to have him as one of my engineering professors.

  • @Ragzzy-R
    @Ragzzy-R 2 года назад +24

    This is by far my favourite video of Mehdi. It's amazingly well made. I would love for him to make more videos like this comparing consumer stuffs. And forget the heaters, I want that profiling tool from 02:07

  • @EpicWolverine
    @EpicWolverine 2 года назад +2

    The 3D visualization looked like a pain to take all that data but it was really useful, thank you!

  • @mrmomb
    @mrmomb 2 года назад +1

    This would work fantastic in my garage work room during the winter. I am currently using an 1500 wat electric IR heater and a 12 volt diesel heater.

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y 2 года назад +3

    1:05 the hand rubs, fist pump and that little pointy finger "I warned you" is. So. Damn. Full of emotion. Can't hire an actor to do this!

  • @midbc1midbc199
    @midbc1midbc199 2 года назад +13

    Bromic representative guy sure was stringing a tale a mile long
    Oh yeah our patented reflectors are made of stuff so good it hasn't been invented yet but we have it

  • @johnkufeldt3564
    @johnkufeldt3564 Год назад

    Good job on the comparison. Cheers from one Canadian to another. I wish I had had them both last week here in Calgary(Feb 2023).

  • @theplouf5533
    @theplouf5533 2 года назад +1

    I wonder if a long glass fresnel lens would work (which deflects but lets infrared waves through). This lens tupe can also be obtained by placing reflectors in line at different angles, like a mirrored grid.
    This would have the same role as the grid but would flatten the temperature curve to make the place warmer at the edges and keep the infrared waves out in the middle. On a table, for example, you are rarely in the middle.
    Sorry for translation, i'm french.

  • @unclemikeslocksmith5530
    @unclemikeslocksmith5530 2 года назад +4

    I love how you gave the both a fair test! You could literally do your own show on just comparing items and I'd never miss an episode!
    Love your videos!

  • @MagnumTechnicalAcademy
    @MagnumTechnicalAcademy 2 года назад +68

    What a well detailed analysis, as I enjoyed watching every minute in the video

  • @L0PREZ
    @L0PREZ 2 года назад

    my goodness I love the thoroughness in your videos.

  • @gnats32
    @gnats32 Год назад +1

    "Test lab scenario" is the "no homo" of doing science dangerously.

  • @SirRelith
    @SirRelith 2 года назад +5

    I love videos like this. Specially the 3D graphs at the end!
    Thanks for doing all this hard work. :)

  • @Valenorious
    @Valenorious 2 года назад +6

    Also the Infratech grid has wider openings, so for Mehdi it is easier to stick his fingers to get the pain effect. Bromic is too protective.

  • @Sandw0rm
    @Sandw0rm 2 года назад +1

    Excellent! This is how technical reviews should be.

  • @R2_D3
    @R2_D3 2 года назад

    ''Which means, they haven't seen my video making a seat warmer''.... That clip cracked me up!! ''Where the F' is it!!??'' 🤣

  • @Half_Finis
    @Half_Finis 2 года назад +11

    Never thought about buying one, and doubt they're avaliable in my country, but I watched all of this video because it was soooooo good. I feel like alot of reviewers of stuff don't even put in 20% of the effort that this took

  • @rob3125
    @rob3125 2 года назад +10

    06:52 Mehdi you definitely need to get some WAGO 221 connectors 😂

    • @wjames126
      @wjames126 2 года назад +5

      Almost like they were created just for this reason. (Though it would be less "BOOM" style.)

  • @DashkaMilashka015
    @DashkaMilashka015 2 года назад

    well, that was very very interesting. i think both companies would hire you for some things. you are really good at what you do man. keep it up!

  • @Interlooper_G
    @Interlooper_G 2 года назад

    video quality has definitely improved....and data representation was so much easier to understand (even if being technical) and obviously "FAIR" (except for the fact that you were holding the whiteboard upside down).....kinda missed the explosion shock when you turned on that button though....😂😂

  • @FayanG
    @FayanG 2 года назад +5

    6:15 if you don't know why it blew up. the end of the wire was touching the floor or a grounded material.(live wire shorted to ground)

  • @dennisgarber
    @dennisgarber 2 года назад +53

    Yeah, a very thin highly reflective grid, using the least material would block less heat. The fat black grid absorbs the ir and re emits as different wavelength heat to heat the air. I am proud of you for not buying the bs about the grid distributing the ir.

    • @dennisgarber
      @dennisgarber 2 года назад +2

      The 3d graph was impressive too!
      I was thinking, also about the need for a 220 gfci .

    • @svampebob007
      @svampebob007 2 года назад +5

      yeah I was thinking of chicken wire, you could even put glossy chicken wire, that way you can actually claim to reflect 90% of the IR... instead of painting it black for aesthetics.
      It's like listening to a customer I had today, she wanted to find a glue that was the same colour of her roof, so that she oculd glue bird spikes on her roof... her husband was trying to convince her that nobody would see it! I interjected... well the birds might will, I think he lost that battle anyway, they ended up with light gray instead of standard white 🤣

    • @virtualtools_3021
      @virtualtools_3021 2 года назад

      @@dennisgarber 2x 120v gfci (don't actually do this plz)

  • @raymorgan4657
    @raymorgan4657 2 года назад +1

    Great video as always. The first thing that comes to my mind however is the cost to run a 6000w heater for any length of time. Where I live 6 kwh per hour would be over a dollar per hour. Not a lot for occasional use I guess, but it would add up quick if used a lot.

    • @a64738
      @a64738 Год назад +1

      Here in North Norway electricity cost 1/100 of that, but you only need to move 1000km farther south to get 100 times higher prices thanks to your corrupt bandits of politicians selling all our electricity to Germany.

    • @Platzhalterxy
      @Platzhalterxy 11 месяцев назад

      meanwhile power price in germany is at least 40 to 60 cent per kwh. and they are working on increasing the prices eveb more

  • @magga553
    @magga553 2 года назад

    Mehdi has the best one word intros, just the word “Hi” is probably the best intro I’ve ever seen.

  • @TheWingAnthony
    @TheWingAnthony 2 года назад +49

    Wow that profiler tool looks awesome and is pretty satisfying to look at!

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 2 года назад

      Its called a profile gauge

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 2 года назад +7

    3:00 **Tink!** - "Oop?"