You know, there's actually a danger to using snappy comebacks, when working with a partner or partners. One time, when I was working at a bar, I was in a standoff with a group of guys. Some regulars were backing me up. I'm Asian, and their leader was throwing all sorts of racial slurs at me. I'd been taking it, but then I kinda snapped. He called me a Nip, and I sorta unconsciously reached out and grabbed him by the throat. He was standing shocked, and I said, "That's Mister Nip to you." That's when I lost my backup, cause all the guys behind me were doubled up, laughing.
@@austinsmith5529 Well, it worked out, okay. They backed down. There's a psychological edge when your side isn't even taking the other side seriously. One time when I was outside the bar, me and my partner were facing off with a couple of guys, when two female regulars walked right up to me and gave me hugs, right in the middle of it. The second one turned to one of the guys opposite me and said, "Go on, hit him." The guys left. TBH, I didn't understand what was going on, myself. I went to the girl, afterward, and asked if she was mad at me. She said she didn't know what I meant. I asked why she told the guy to hit me. She said she wanted to see me kick his ass. I just busted out, laughing.
Their potential for working well together is probably why Grey didn't assign Bradford as Nolan's TO back when Grey was trying to harass him out of the LAPD. Bradford would respect Nolan's work ethic and experience and would not have tolerated Grey's toxic behavior towards his Boot.
when was the other times? there's a specific scene where bradford and nolan fight fought a guy in a parking lot between a truck but i forgot what episode it was
well what do you expect this guys are considered dangerous as they are part of the mob world but at the end of the day they are still untrained mobs that only knows how to shoot they didn't even know how to do a tactical entry/breaching since they stupidly rush in the house against a armed police
Right, reverse grip limits your reach. Slashing becomes awkward. You have to use it like a hatchet. Standard grip you can use it like fencing. Piercing strikes with your body back.
@@TheJimSkipper The way Nolan sets up his defense with that shirt around his arm makes me think the guy picked the right form of attack. Nolan's clearly setting up to bait him into a overextended thrust where he can then trap his wrist and wrestle the knife away. Cosidering Nolan also appears to have reach on him, it would probably happen too. Reverse grip makes it much harder to take the knife away, which when you're the only one with a knife, is kinda key to the fight. If it was knife on knife, I'd go standard grip maybe.
You know, there's actually a danger to using snappy comebacks, when working with a partner or partners. One time, when I was working at a bar, I was in a standoff with a group of guys. Some regulars were backing me up. I'm Asian, and their leader was throwing all sorts of racial slurs at me. I'd been taking it, but then I kinda snapped. He called me a Nip, and I sorta unconsciously reached out and grabbed him by the throat. He was standing shocked, and I said, "That's Mister Nip to you." That's when I lost my backup, cause all the guys behind me were doubled up, laughing.
@mattm.8252 That dude must have pissed himself as a reaction to that sudden change, i bet the normals that were chillen around drinking were laughing their butts off.
@@puthenveetilnoel that's exactly why you don't switch. Gave Nolan time to wrap his arm. Dude also risks dropping it if Nolan just throws his shirt at him when he goes to switch.
No. That's not how you hold a knife. You hold it with your thumb on the flat of the blade. If you just wrap your hand around the handle - it wobbles to much. With you thumb on the flat of the blade it's nice and firm in your grip. USMC Close Combat Training - 1970. .
That's for a specific type of knife and knife fighting. There are many styles. Some that use the reverse grip. It's better for trapping limbs. The Regular grip you described has the advantage of reach.
I thought nathan was talking that nonsense about the right way to hold a knife to bait the guy to changes grips mid fight like an idiot and bum rush him when his grip isn't secure
When he first asks if he’s holding the knife the “right way” 2:00 and is told it is the “right way” he has the edge of the blade toward himself. Next frame(s) show the edge outward.
In martial arts they actually do tell you to run away if they hold in reverse grip. Which always made no sense to me because there's different fighting styles for different ways to hold a knife
This is how people who exclusively watch action movies thing knife fighting works. How to hold a knife is going to be contextual. But generally, holding it with the blade facing up is preferable, because it allows greater distance and allows you to thrust repeatedly at speed. Holding it reversed has pretty limited utility and is really an action movie invention, so they can have actors doing fist fights with knives. It limits range, and it limits power. It limits what your options are. Knives are not intended to be used in this way. If you see someone holding a knife that way, it probably means they've watched too many action movies. Pretty much the only time it's advantageous to use a knife that way is if you're doing an overhead stab for some reason and at no other time.
Also, I think they used to tell you to hold a low stance with the knife hand out to the side a bit with the tip of the blade pointing towards the enemy. This way they can't see how long the knife is. This is like WW2 training video or something I've seen. It was pretty Interesting.
@@brianmclaren361 The ideal way to wield a knife, in almost all instances, is with your knife hand held out in front of you, and your other hand out of the way so it can't get hit by your opponent, but is still withing grabbing distance to use grappling techniques. The entire point of fighting with any kind of bladed weapon is to put yourself in a position where you can strike, but your opponent can't strike back. And that necessarily requires you to keep them at distance by using the weapon as a threat and maximizing your range. You don't want to straighten your arm out completely, because you want to be able to extend and change the distance of the fight if needed. You also want to angle your body away so that your opponent has to reach further to strike you. However, it's worth noting that getting into a "knife fight" is very unlikely. The most likely scenario if you're attacked by someone with a knife is that it's going to be an ambush, and you're going to be unarmed. In which case, defences are very limited no matter how they're gripping their knife. If someone attacks you with a knife, you're GOING to get cut; it's just a matter of how much you can mitigate it. I'm immediately skeptical of any martial art that teaches "knife defence". And when you look at such martial arts schools, they usually consist of choreographed routines of intercepting what's almost always an overhead stab, and then neatly spinning your opponent into a wrist lock that causes the knife to tumble from his grasp. That isn't reality. Grappling with your opponent and taking control of the knife weilding arm is certainly a reasonable technique; one MMA fighter I watched speculate on how he'd deal with a knife attack consisted of him throwing his jacket over the attacker's knife hand, then taking control of the arm and forcing his attacker against a wall to stop the moving. But there's no magic bullet and there's no one size fits all. For actual trained combatants, like soldiers, to be fighting with knives, pretty much everything has to have gone wrong.
@@seraphinaaizen6278 I heard one selfe defence trainer say in regards to knife defence that he used fake blood some really stress educing situations (others being hurt or screeming etc.) because he said that it was pretty much impossible to get out of a knifefight uncut so he wanted to get the students "used" to this situation so they can react to survive. Not win, but get out and survive thing is, even if you practice martial arts, you are not necessarily fit to fight for real. My trainer back in the days told me about a national champion of karate it was I believe who got brutally beaten and ended up in the hospital. That why I admire this like 0,5% of people that got the reflexes to defend themselves even if the attack comes out of left field
That's stupid. First, you want blade out, not towards yourself. Second, tip up is best for attacking; advancing slashes and thrusts. Tip down is best for defense and countering; hammerfist stabs. But, I really don't expect a Hollywood writer to know that.
I have never seen such a stupid answer. What is a fight about ? Offense AND Defense. If you have the knife point up you are stuck in attack and can not go in a defence pose as the knife now points to your face naturally due to how your hand moves. In defense pose knife points out and you can attack with fast strikes plus defend yourself without the risk of stabbing yourself. Knife down allows for switch between Offense and Defense, knife out makes you stuck in offense. Plus you severely lack situational awareness. Nolan prepared by wrapping his arm in a jacket to make it more resistant against the knife, allowing him to be defensive and offensive in hand to hand combat. Idi if you have ever seen a real pro fight, but the guy with no/ weak defense loses. So for so boldly accusing Hollywoods writers of having no idea, you yourself have not a single clue. I suggest you grab a plastic knife and move like you would fight, offensive and defensive. You will finde the knife in your face or too close to your other arm with blade up, while blade down points the blade away from you.
That’s right Hollywood can’t hire consultants who actually know how to shoot fight or how police procedure is in Los Angeles. But apparently you are some kind of expert
@@neilkurzman4907 no he’s not. His entire explanation is wrong as well as his conclusions. I suggest you grab a kitchen knife ( full too for safety) hold it blade up and try to get in a defensive pose. Good luck not taking your eye out
Every time I see Nathan Fillion, I can’t help but notice his striking resemblance to Nathan Drake from Uncharted. Isn’t it strange that they even share the same first name?😄
Man the way he was holding that knife is just cliche serial killer movie style, take one stab downward like that and hit a bone and I promise your hand wont stop with the knife, good way to suddenly find the very sharp blade in your palm. Gotta hold it away from you and tightly so that it doesnt yank out of your hand when it hits. Plus knives are more stabby stab instead of Mr Swish and Flick over here.
OK, you are wrong as all hell here, a blade can be held in multiple different ways, the main factor in if you're gonna get hurt is actually the contour of the handle and size of any guard. Plus knives are sharp the whole length of the blade, you refer to a dagger when you say that, their points being designed to pierce as opposed to being rounded. Fuckin wannabe knowitall
I mean, if you're looking to stab, then yes, I'd hold it frontwards, but thats also an easy way to over extend and lose your weapon. Unarmed knife defense is mostly about controlling and trapping the knife hand... a leading thrust like what you're describing can easily be intercepted via your wrist, and then you've got no leverage to keep the knife. Stabs make sense in a knife on knife fight, where reach is key. When only you have a knife, and you're fighting in a tight hallway against a trained opponent, the focus shifts to making sure you keep your advantage, no? The way he's holding it allows for better control in close, and allows you to keep the knife much closer to your center of gravity, making it much harder to take away. You close distance, grapple for superior position, then finish it with a powerful downward attack.
Ice pick grip has benefits especially with things like trapping limbs with the blade. Hammer grip has more reach. There are benefits to both as well as risks.
@@puthenveetilnoel especially if your using pikal or silat, i grew up in thailand thanks to my parents work and learned silat and kali from a young age, there really useful for real world applications in fights
ummm, it takes a while for a housee to burn, if you goo up stairs, and call in backup, unless your department is shit, they will arrive well before its burning.
But you still end up with half-burned down house. And there's a baby in the house (at least judging by the sounds), who is less likely to get hurt in a fight (sure, stray bullet still can happen), but burning house and smoke are much deadlier But anyway, it's just a show with a plotpoint/cool fight scene shenanigans x)
Okay, but that's not the right way to hold a knife, you want the point forward. Holding a knife with a reverse grip like that is artificially reducing your range and limiting your effective moves to downward stabs.
The guys he knocked out will wake up. And the guy laying next to the gun. Even if he cuffs him he can get up and leave lol.. but sure they dont have enough cuffs
I believe what he’s trying to say is if they’re holding it to the right way then you don’t have much of a chance. But if they’re holding it the wrong way you do.
No. There is no such thing taught in academy. They don't teach knife fighting at all in academy. What they teach you is to shoot before they can get to you or hope you're a faster runner than they are and you can get enough distance to turn and shoot or enough time for someone else to shoot them. They do teach a basic knife disarm but it doesn't really work on anyone that isn't holding still letting you do it. There are knife defense techniques taught in baton training but that doesn't quite apply here.
Little bro, you’ve never once been trained how to fight with a knife. You watch that one dude with the swords on RUclips that shit talks reverse grip because his girl fucked a reverse grip user, then reverse grip user kicked the guys ass, you don’t know what you’re talking about little bro
@@puthenveetilnoel true but most of those are shit, and even so those styles caution years of training and studying of the rules and conditions of combat, one of which is to know that fighting the way this guy did with a knife is extremely stupid.
@@Old666B17 Silat fighters are fucking deadly with a knife and the reverse grip is integral to that. Not to say the guy in the video is using any style like that. And even without using that style, there are benefits to using the knife reverse.
@@puthenveetilnoel yeah but reverse grip is used for opportunities to places like the inner thigh, or the neck or the side or ankles etc. not wild swings from the out set of the fight wich leave you wide open. silat fighters would never start with reverse grip either.
Another example of Hollywood not knowing what they're talking about. But then, from what I've seen, this entire series is a continuous example of Hollywood talking out of their collective asses.
Dude physically couldn't pick the bullet out. The kevlar snarls all around the thing, especially if it's a hollowpoint. It would take some good digging to get it out, and half the time you need a knife.
absolutely not the correct way to hole a knife. reverse grip limits your range, and makes it harder to stab someone, which is the goal. a slash is superficial compared to a puncture
His opponent wrapped his arm to match the knife hand though, so the real correct thing to do would have been switch the knife to his opposite hand unless he is completely untrained with his off hand. As to which grip theres different styles and situations that are advantageous for a variety of grips so having someone say "if they hold it the right way" is inherently silly unless you refer to the overly telegraphed serial killer technique. That said blade control is your friend and if my opponent displays decent close quarters technique i may be inclined to go for one im most practiced with while keeping my hands moving to limit there ability to predict my lead.
*Pretends to be a criminal from a spanish speaking country* *Delivers one of the worst accent ever seen in the story of cinema and shows* I bet you he had never spoke a single word in spanish.
I love Bradfords look of satisfaction. Shows gratitude, pride and respect
That was like I’m buyin this man a beer
I fucking love nolan “oh I wanna be Batman rich”😂😂😂
You know, there's actually a danger to using snappy comebacks, when working with a partner or partners. One time, when I was working at a bar, I was in a standoff with a group of guys. Some regulars were backing me up. I'm Asian, and their leader was throwing all sorts of racial slurs at me. I'd been taking it, but then I kinda snapped. He called me a Nip, and I sorta unconsciously reached out and grabbed him by the throat. He was standing shocked, and I said, "That's Mister Nip to you." That's when I lost my backup, cause all the guys behind me were doubled up, laughing.
@@mattm.8252That's epic and funny but also damn kinda like the fuck guy's
@@austinsmith5529 Well, it worked out, okay. They backed down. There's a psychological edge when your side isn't even taking the other side seriously.
One time when I was outside the bar, me and my partner were facing off with a couple of guys, when two female regulars walked right up to me and gave me hugs, right in the middle of it. The second one turned to one of the guys opposite me and said, "Go on, hit him." The guys left.
TBH, I didn't understand what was going on, myself. I went to the girl, afterward, and asked if she was mad at me. She said she didn't know what I meant. I asked why she told the guy to hit me. She said she wanted to see me kick his ass. I just busted out, laughing.
Shit we all wanna be batman rich 😂😂😂😂
@@mattm.8252 cornball
Nolan and Bradford team ups are unparalleled.
When the unstoppable force teams up with the immovable object
Their potential for working well together is probably why Grey didn't assign Bradford as Nolan's TO back when Grey was trying to harass him out of the LAPD. Bradford would respect Nolan's work ethic and experience and would not have tolerated Grey's toxic behavior towards his Boot.
@@tytoalbasoren9457 And the best part is you can't tell which is which. 🤣
when was the other times? there's a specific scene where bradford and nolan fight fought a guy in a parking lot between a truck but i forgot what episode it was
@@danielhaire6677 you overthink it too much. We are talking about a show where a guy take a bullet with a kevlar vest and move like it's nothing.
Bradford: Gun
Nolan: Home Alone
Pretty much in character 😂
I love the little "ow" the bad guy gives after his vest catches the bullet.
Dude digs the slug out of his chest & tosses it & it makes the sound of a shell casing as it hits the ground 😂
Glad I'm not the only one who caught that.
Not to mention, not how a vest works, you can't just dig a bullet out with your bare hands it gets imbedded in the layers of kevlar.
I caught that😂
He was wearing a vest to protect himself.
The show's sound editing and VFX are all over the place, but I give it a pass overall
He may not might be Batman but he gets to be green lantern
He got to be Malcolm Reynolds even before he became Nolan!
Are we forgetting The Detachable Kid?
@@SIS3W3N To be fair he was the voice of Green Lantern before being TDK
Ya know I love when Nolan is a smart ass Tim always joins in with this antics without much fuss but if other rookies do it he’s serious and unfazed
Yeah, gotta LEAD BY EXAMPLE, if you're being a clown, the young bucks following you will be Clown Jrs. lmao
He's worked with Nolan enough to know that he can handle himself so he's not worried about it
Love the knife scene but never seen a clip for it, thanks
Good scene, thanks for uploading it
First guy slips, falls and gets knocked out? What is this, Home Alone?
Nolan pourned cooking oil on the floor by the door. u can see the yellow shine from the oil which tripped up the bad doods.
@@billodonoghue9781 Yeah, but I wondered too why the first guy didnt stand up anymore. He must have fallen very badly.
well what do you expect this guys are considered dangerous as they are part of the mob world but at the end of the day they are still untrained mobs that only knows how to shoot they didn't even know how to do a tactical entry/breaching since they stupidly rush in the house against a armed police
@@rafaelstoll3305 Oil on his feet and the floor, and an officer with a gun next to him, fairly persuasive reasoning to not get up.
Tim: Was he holding it the right way?
Nolan: I don't know, I forgot which was the right way.
“Don’t even breathe” Goldddd
My one issue, is that there's more then one way to hold a knife well. Both styles, blade up and blade down, have their advantages.
Right, reverse grip limits your reach. Slashing becomes awkward. You have to use it like a hatchet.
Standard grip you can use it like fencing. Piercing strikes with your body back.
@@TheJimSkipper The way Nolan sets up his defense with that shirt around his arm makes me think the guy picked the right form of attack. Nolan's clearly setting up to bait him into a overextended thrust where he can then trap his wrist and wrestle the knife away. Cosidering Nolan also appears to have reach on him, it would probably happen too.
Reverse grip makes it much harder to take the knife away, which when you're the only one with a knife, is kinda key to the fight. If it was knife on knife, I'd go standard grip maybe.
In which style would be easier to defend against for an unarmed person
@@neilkurzman4907just run
@@TheJimSkipper Standard grip makes it likely to break or incapacitate the wrist.
Idk why Nolan want to be Batman when he already is.
Why would he want to be Batman when he’s already a Helljumper?
@@kingaiden1997 And a Spartan.
@@danielhaire6677 And a Green Lantern.
Man could probably build the batcave if he wanted to
@@JnEricsonxTwo green Lanterns. He also voiced Hal Jordan in animated projects.
Great scene. I love how cheesy it is 😂
You know, there's actually a danger to using snappy comebacks, when working with a partner or partners. One time, when I was working at a bar, I was in a standoff with a group of guys. Some regulars were backing me up. I'm Asian, and their leader was throwing all sorts of racial slurs at me. I'd been taking it, but then I kinda snapped. He called me a Nip, and I sorta unconsciously reached out and grabbed him by the throat. He was standing shocked, and I said, "That's Mister Nip to you." That's when I lost my backup, cause all the guys behind me were doubled up, laughing.
@mattm.8252 That dude must have pissed himself as a reaction to that sudden change, i bet the normals that were chillen around drinking were laughing their butts off.
a voice from the future past "i am of course wearing full body armour, i am not a moron!"
Loved the nod to home alone.
0:42 "ow.." bro acted like that didnt do nun.
Fr that would've broken a rib
Nathan Drake vs Talbot
Nolan north is nathan drake not fillion
Actually there is a short out there where he is Nathan drake.
@@christianwalser888 you should watch it. its great!
Ain’t a body in the verse can stop him.
He's proficient at fighting a guy with a sword...well he's pretty good...on second thought he's alright.
I also would like to be Batman rich.
ngl I would watch a whole series of them two being detectives together. I don't need any of the other cast.
"...and I don't get to be Batman." He says, sounding just like Batman 😂
He made an arrest with that daddy cop walk and those daddy cop arms. 😅
100% the wrong way. And you never waste time switching your grip once you have the knife out.
Icepick and Hammer grip both have their benefits and drawbacks.
@@puthenveetilnoel yes but once you pull it you keep the grip you pulled it on.
@@Drew7s Sure but this was an intimidation tactic. Nolan was also getting his " weapon" ready so he wasnt exactly rushing for time.
@@puthenveetilnoel that's exactly why you don't switch. Gave Nolan time to wrap his arm. Dude also risks dropping it if Nolan just throws his shirt at him when he goes to switch.
No.
That's not how you hold a knife.
You hold it with your thumb on the flat of the blade.
If you just wrap your hand around the handle - it wobbles to much.
With you thumb on the flat of the blade it's nice and firm in your grip.
USMC Close Combat Training - 1970.
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That was a trick.
That's for a specific type of knife and knife fighting. There are many styles. Some that use the reverse grip. It's better for trapping limbs. The Regular grip you described has the advantage of reach.
I thought nathan was talking that nonsense about the right way to hold a knife to bait the guy to changes grips mid fight like an idiot and bum rush him when his grip isn't secure
glad to see Fiasco moved up in the world - he used to be a Bizlats soldier
Thanks youtube, now I know how to hold a knife the "right" way!
"....lleguen mas polecia" 😂😂😂
He said something wrong? :D I don’t know Spanish so I’m clueless :D
@@richardezra3501 "policia", no "polecia". Es un detalle, pero suena muy mal especialmente en alguien que se supone que habla español.
When he first asks if he’s holding the knife the “right way” 2:00 and is told it is the “right way” he has the edge of the blade toward himself. Next frame(s) show the edge outward.
In martial arts they actually do tell you to run away if they hold in reverse grip. Which always made no sense to me because there's different fighting styles for different ways to hold a knife
This is how people who exclusively watch action movies thing knife fighting works.
How to hold a knife is going to be contextual. But generally, holding it with the blade facing up is preferable, because it allows greater distance and allows you to thrust repeatedly at speed. Holding it reversed has pretty limited utility and is really an action movie invention, so they can have actors doing fist fights with knives. It limits range, and it limits power. It limits what your options are. Knives are not intended to be used in this way. If you see someone holding a knife that way, it probably means they've watched too many action movies. Pretty much the only time it's advantageous to use a knife that way is if you're doing an overhead stab for some reason and at no other time.
Also, I think they used to tell you to hold a low stance with the knife hand out to the side a bit with the tip of the blade pointing towards the enemy.
This way they can't see how long the knife is.
This is like WW2 training video or something I've seen.
It was pretty Interesting.
@@brianmclaren361 The ideal way to wield a knife, in almost all instances, is with your knife hand held out in front of you, and your other hand out of the way so it can't get hit by your opponent, but is still withing grabbing distance to use grappling techniques.
The entire point of fighting with any kind of bladed weapon is to put yourself in a position where you can strike, but your opponent can't strike back. And that necessarily requires you to keep them at distance by using the weapon as a threat and maximizing your range. You don't want to straighten your arm out completely, because you want to be able to extend and change the distance of the fight if needed. You also want to angle your body away so that your opponent has to reach further to strike you.
However, it's worth noting that getting into a "knife fight" is very unlikely. The most likely scenario if you're attacked by someone with a knife is that it's going to be an ambush, and you're going to be unarmed. In which case, defences are very limited no matter how they're gripping their knife. If someone attacks you with a knife, you're GOING to get cut; it's just a matter of how much you can mitigate it.
I'm immediately skeptical of any martial art that teaches "knife defence". And when you look at such martial arts schools, they usually consist of choreographed routines of intercepting what's almost always an overhead stab, and then neatly spinning your opponent into a wrist lock that causes the knife to tumble from his grasp. That isn't reality.
Grappling with your opponent and taking control of the knife weilding arm is certainly a reasonable technique; one MMA fighter I watched speculate on how he'd deal with a knife attack consisted of him throwing his jacket over the attacker's knife hand, then taking control of the arm and forcing his attacker against a wall to stop the moving. But there's no magic bullet and there's no one size fits all.
For actual trained combatants, like soldiers, to be fighting with knives, pretty much everything has to have gone wrong.
@@seraphinaaizen6278 I heard one selfe defence trainer say in regards to knife defence that he used fake blood some really stress educing situations (others being hurt or screeming etc.) because he said that it was pretty much impossible to get out of a knifefight uncut so he wanted to get the students "used" to this situation so they can react to survive. Not win, but get out and survive
thing is, even if you practice martial arts, you are not necessarily fit to fight for real. My trainer back in the days told me about a national champion of karate it was I believe who got brutally beaten and ended up in the hospital.
That why I admire this like 0,5% of people that got the reflexes to defend themselves even if the attack comes out of left field
That's stupid. First, you want blade out, not towards yourself. Second, tip up is best for attacking; advancing slashes and thrusts. Tip down is best for defense and countering; hammerfist stabs. But, I really don't expect a Hollywood writer to know that.
I think that’s the point. What’s him to be psyched out and holds it the wrong way…
such a writing expert we got here... he literally gaslit him into holding it the wrong way. but oh you're so smart to notice
I have never seen such a stupid answer. What is a fight about ? Offense AND Defense. If you have the knife point up you are stuck in attack and can not go in a defence pose as the knife now points to your face naturally due to how your hand moves. In defense pose knife points out and you can attack with fast strikes plus defend yourself without the risk of stabbing yourself.
Knife down allows for switch between Offense and Defense, knife out makes you stuck in offense.
Plus you severely lack situational awareness. Nolan prepared by wrapping his arm in a jacket to make it more resistant against the knife, allowing him to be defensive and offensive in hand to hand combat. Idi if you have ever seen a real pro fight, but the guy with no/ weak defense loses.
So for so boldly accusing Hollywoods writers of having no idea, you yourself have not a single clue.
I suggest you grab a plastic knife and move like you would fight, offensive and defensive. You will finde the knife in your face or too close to your other arm with blade up, while blade down points the blade away from you.
That’s right Hollywood can’t hire consultants who actually know how to shoot fight or how police procedure is in Los Angeles.
But apparently you are some kind of expert
@@neilkurzman4907 no he’s not. His entire explanation is wrong as well as his conclusions. I suggest you grab a kitchen knife ( full too for safety) hold it blade up and try to get in a defensive pose. Good luck not taking your eye out
Bro just chucked a bullet that was shot at him that’s insane
Everyone in comments complaining about the right way to hold a knife even though the entire clip from start the finish is stupid.
That's because they're not complaining, they're enjoying the opportunity to have a nuanced discussion about it
"I dont get to be batman" damn i wanna be batman
Every time I see Nathan Fillion, I can’t help but notice his striking resemblance to Nathan Drake from Uncharted. Isn’t it strange that they even share the same first name?😄
Man the way he was holding that knife is just cliche serial killer movie style, take one stab downward like that and hit a bone and I promise your hand wont stop with the knife, good way to suddenly find the very sharp blade in your palm. Gotta hold it away from you and tightly so that it doesnt yank out of your hand when it hits. Plus knives are more stabby stab instead of Mr Swish and Flick over here.
OK, you are wrong as all hell here, a blade can be held in multiple different ways, the main factor in if you're gonna get hurt is actually the contour of the handle and size of any guard. Plus knives are sharp the whole length of the blade, you refer to a dagger when you say that, their points being designed to pierce as opposed to being rounded. Fuckin wannabe knowitall
I mean, if you're looking to stab, then yes, I'd hold it frontwards, but thats also an easy way to over extend and lose your weapon. Unarmed knife defense is mostly about controlling and trapping the knife hand... a leading thrust like what you're describing can easily be intercepted via your wrist, and then you've got no leverage to keep the knife. Stabs make sense in a knife on knife fight, where reach is key. When only you have a knife, and you're fighting in a tight hallway against a trained opponent, the focus shifts to making sure you keep your advantage, no? The way he's holding it allows for better control in close, and allows you to keep the knife much closer to your center of gravity, making it much harder to take away. You close distance, grapple for superior position, then finish it with a powerful downward attack.
look up pikal, the way he held the knife is textbook pikal style, its a very dangerous close quarters style
Ice pick grip has benefits especially with things like trapping limbs with the blade. Hammer grip has more reach. There are benefits to both as well as risks.
@@puthenveetilnoel especially if your using pikal or silat, i grew up in thailand thanks to my parents work and learned silat and kali from a young age, there really useful for real world applications in fights
ummm, it takes a while for a housee to burn, if you goo up stairs, and call in backup, unless your department is shit, they will arrive well before its burning.
But you still end up with half-burned down house. And there's a baby in the house (at least judging by the sounds), who is less likely to get hurt in a fight (sure, stray bullet still can happen), but burning house and smoke are much deadlier
But anyway, it's just a show with a plotpoint/cool fight scene shenanigans x)
I cant find this secene!!!! Anywhere where can i get full scene
He was holding it the right way to start. He changed to the wrong way after that.
Okay, but that's not the right way to hold a knife, you want the point forward. Holding a knife with a reverse grip like that is artificially reducing your range and limiting your effective moves to downward stabs.
Fought like a true firefly!
The guys he knocked out will wake up. And the guy laying next to the gun. Even if he cuffs him he can get up and leave lol.. but sure they dont have enough cuffs
Fighting a guy with a knive, he is using not the first time, with pure hands is a bad idea in reality.
When he said polecia is actually policía
Wich season and episode is this ?
Why didn't he just say it was the other way around?
five in custody??? save the taxpayers the cost of trials and getting off scot free.... should have been... "Send the ME"...
Bradford's gonna cop an Intentional Maiming charge for the foot shooting too.
They don't actually teach cops there's a right way to hold a knife, do they? The right way to hold it is the way you trained to use it.
I believe what he’s trying to say is if they’re holding it to the right way then you don’t have much of a chance. But if they’re holding it the wrong way you do.
No. There is no such thing taught in academy. They don't teach knife fighting at all in academy. What they teach you is to shoot before they can get to you or hope you're a faster runner than they are and you can get enough distance to turn and shoot or enough time for someone else to shoot them. They do teach a basic knife disarm but it doesn't really work on anyone that isn't holding still letting you do it. There are knife defense techniques taught in baton training but that doesn't quite apply here.
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So you were on the Los Angeles police force ?
What's the music after the fight, please?
daughters the reason they hate me
@@IOArts I asked about melody in the last few second of video, but anyway, thanks a lot!
That’s actually the wrong way to hold a knife. You never reverse grip it’s stupid and easy to block
For a civilian, a trained person with reverse grip will always have the advantage over a trained person with normal grip
I think this is meant to be an “opposite day” joke here. Not a hundred percent sure, but it seems like it.
Little bro, you’ve never once been trained how to fight with a knife. You watch that one dude with the swords on RUclips that shit talks reverse grip because his girl fucked a reverse grip user, then reverse grip user kicked the guys ass, you don’t know what you’re talking about little bro
It's mind games. He's getting ready to fight and talking in the hopes it will make the guy switch his grip, which will give him a better chance.
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How come all of these cops are also daredevil
Rápido! Antes de que llegue más POLACIA 🤣
Lmao yea i was like wtf first half of his sentence was fine then his accent straight went no sabo 😅
"Do you know who I am?" Irl
wait a sec he held it the wrong way though
There isn't a right or wrong way. There are styles of knife fighting that use both grips.
@@puthenveetilnoel true but most of those are shit, and even so those styles caution years of training and studying of the rules and conditions of combat, one of which is to know that fighting the way this guy did with a knife is extremely stupid.
@@Old666B17 Silat fighters are fucking deadly with a knife and the reverse grip is integral to that. Not to say the guy in the video is using any style like that. And even without using that style, there are benefits to using the knife reverse.
@@puthenveetilnoel yeah but reverse grip is used for opportunities to places like the inner thigh, or the neck or the side or ankles etc. not wild swings from the out set of the fight wich leave you wide open. silat fighters would never start with reverse grip either.
@@Old666B17 yeah homie in the clip wasn't exactly winning a Silat tourney with this showcase -_-.
The first fight Nolan gets into as a cop in the first episode of the series is a knife fight so why is he saying this was his first knife fight?
Another example of Hollywood not knowing what they're talking about.
But then, from what I've seen, this entire series is a continuous example of Hollywood talking out of their collective asses.
it was the wrong way to hold a knife only a moron would hold it in a way that allows the enemy to stab the person holding it
Love fact the he held knife wrong way.
Dude wouldn't just pick the slug out. Vests keep you alive, not from being injured.
Dude physically couldn't pick the bullet out. The kevlar snarls all around the thing, especially if it's a hollowpoint. It would take some good digging to get it out, and half the time you need a knife.
Indeed this is the right way : you have more strength to hit and it is more difficult to block.
I'd rather take Hank Reinhardt's advice.
Reverse grip is NOT "the right way" lol
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This is hilarious because pretty much every modern knife fighting system tells you that icepick grip is worse
absolutely not the correct way to hole a knife. reverse grip limits your range, and makes it harder to stab someone, which is the goal. a slash is superficial compared to a puncture
That 'right way, wrong way' thing is pure Hollywood writer bullshit.
Not even CLOSE to the right way to hold a knife. Absolute Hollywood BS.....
What sort of idiot sound effects tech thinks a spent slug makes an empty brass casing "tinkle" sound when it hits the ground? Utterly incompetent!
His opponent wrapped his arm to match the knife hand though, so the real correct thing to do would have been switch the knife to his opposite hand unless he is completely untrained with his off hand.
As to which grip theres different styles and situations that are advantageous for a variety of grips so having someone say "if they hold it the right way" is inherently silly unless you refer to the overly telegraphed serial killer technique.
That said blade control is your friend and if my opponent displays decent close quarters technique i may be inclined to go for one im most practiced with while keeping my hands moving to limit there ability to predict my lead.
Home Alone was better
police brutality
He shoots the guy in the foot and then DOESN'T TAKE THE SMG?!?!
He’s a police officer. And he’s a police officer in a TV show. He’s not just gonna randomly murder people just because he can.
The devs didn’t code it that way, it just gave him ammo when he walked over it.
*Pretends to be a criminal from a spanish speaking country*
*Delivers one of the worst accent ever seen in the story of cinema and shows*
I bet you he had never spoke a single word in spanish.
Typical hero cop show. Just get paid and walk away...yall are no different than the criminals.