1 x 11 Speed XT M8000 UPGRADE/ Install How-To, Ride Impressions: I-Spec II, 11-42t, GS RD
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- How-To upgrade to #Shimano 1 x 11 speed from 1 x 10s using the Shimano #XT #M8000 drivetrain. All installation details, adjustments, and ride impressions.
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This is the most informative and thorough video I've run across that covers everything you need to know in order to upgrade to Shimano 1x11. This helped me immensely on my upgrade. Thanks!
I was able to adapt xt 11 speed shifter (i spec 2) to my deore brake lever (i spec ev) by removing the i spec 2 plate and using a shorter bolt (brake rotor bolt). I saw this on reddit and very happy with the result. Im always referring back to your videos for reference. Thank you again.
After watching your videos. I finally decide to upgrade from 2x9 to XT M8000 1x11 with Sram PCX1 chain. Thank you for all the informations, Just save me a lot of time and money. Time to go out for a ride.
i just installed my 1x11 and went on a 21 mile ride. The shifting is like butter. I couldn't be happier. Thanks for the video Norvet, it helped with the what parts to purchase and how to install.
Your videos about the XT M8000 components convinced me to go down that route. I got a fatbike which came stock with a not so great 3x10 and asked the bike shop to replace the parts with a 1x11 XT M8000 setup. Besides that the shop didn't feel the need to install a chainring with any sort of chain retention (I had to get a RaceFace narrow/wide to stop the chain from falling) they delievered the bike with a M8000 RD + 11-42 cassette + speed shifter and according Shimano chain (actually thinking of it I have to check wether it's also wrong as I have some rubbing in the lowest gears which I can't get rid off easily). All in all I am super happy and thanks to your video I made a very good decision on what path to go in terms of drivetrain. Next upgrade will be the XT M8000 hydr. brakes which you seem to like a lot too. I will be replacing the stock mechanical Tektros that came with the bike (entry level Felt fatbike DD70). I think that with my combination then (XT M8000 RD + cassette + brakes + RaceFace Ride crankset with 32t chainring) the bike will have made a massive leap into very decent bike territory without spending a fortune. Thx for your great videos..
You my friend are a straight up G. Thanks for this vid.
One word.... refinedperformance!
I've probably watched this video 10 times by now, working on my 06 Stumpy as a complete noob. Great content, keep them coming.
After watching yrs videos about the xt m8000, i do the upgrade .
On my Kona process 153, everything perfectly , back pedalling work on the 42t without any spacer, just with the pc x1 chain.
Thanks again
Just didn't this full install on my trek fuel, inc the oval chain ring. Your videos are excellent and very informative. Thanks!
Best damn bike instructional videos I've ever seen. Thanks so much!
great vid. one tip is you should degas your rear shock and fully compress it before adding the chain to stop it maxing out under compression for a jump or drop
Dude, I can't tell you how happy I am to have found this video. Not only am I in the process of installing all the same parts, but I'm also replacing all the exact same parts you had (Race Face ring, One Up cogs, SRAM X9).
One thing you didn't address in the video, if you wouldn't mind: What's that little gray lever that you can push up for "ON" or leave down? Oh, and what's the little rubber cap that's on the "Plate unit cover?"
You are really good at making these tutorials; keep it up!
Thanks for this. I've just managed to shear off my rear derailleur and then the day after sheared off the rear hanger, which then broke my new rear derailleur... As such I'm not paying bike shop prices to have them all replaced again and will be using your adjustment videos to refine my setup prior to riding as I can't afford 250quid a weekend on my bike lol!
just did the exact same setup with sram pc x1 chain and it really is refined performance!
i just bought XT groupset just now..can't wait to put it on my new mondraker vantage R frameset..thanks for the video...
Just got round to installing the M8000 11 Speed and found your video really helpful in the process, thanks man for your video.
I see SRAM have just announced the 12 speed system, I personally find fewer gears to be much simpler and easier to use, what next, reintroducing the front mech lol!
Anyway thanks again and keep the videos coming, im heading for South Wales next week for a few days trail riding, should give me chance to test the 1x11..
Lol learned how to mount the shifter and how to open my bar clamp in one video haha. I feel like an idiot now.
Just got a full 1x11 xt groupset myself with a renthal 34 chain ring and love it
Ok so I went with a 3x10 to 1x10 conversion with the Race Face 32T up front and the Wolf Tooth 40T in back with their 16T drop in. It is fine, but also just...ok. Shifting can be somewhat inconsistent going back up to that 16T. I wish I had just gone the 1x11 route from the get go after watching this. I think the Shimano 1x11 M8000 Groupset is what Santa needs to bring this year. Nice vid!
Indeed! I will consider both options. I guess it will depend on whether I have been naughty or nice in mama's opinion!
Well Santa was a bit late thanks to the Fedex delays, but did arrive this morning. I've just completed the 1x11 XT M8000 conversion on my Trek Fuel Ex-7. The only difference for me is that I kept the Race Face 32T Narrow Wide up front. It took about an hour fifteen start to finish because I wanted to only do it once. The hardest part was the cable through the frame as my plastic tubing slipped out of the tape and went up inside the frame on the lower end when I was removing the old cable. I was able to snag the new cable end out of the lower hole with some tweezers however. Love love love the setup! Thanks for the reference guide!
damn, this videos are informative specially for first time bikers doing their own upgrades. THanks mate
Great, informative, higly detailed videos as usual. Great Job. Have you thought about using an Avid Rollamijig to get rid of the housing loop into the rear mech? It should help to reduced cable friction in the system. I've been using one on my 1x9 setup and it works great.
Helpful video(s). I just bought a Kona Process 111 and I am looking to go from X9 to the XT setup Thanks.
You’ve been making vids for a while. Nice work!
And XT M8000 is still one of (if not the) best drivetrains out there IMO. Especially at todays prices.
@@thedownunderverse both down under, and up over!
Chain drop from biggest cog is also dependant on length of the chainstay.. Kona Process has very short one. Also happening on SRAM setup to be clear.
mountain bike chainline should favor the upper gears.
this can be done by adding chainring spacers and longer bolts.
Great informative video! Thanks for taking the time to do this.
When jumping on the trail is your chain still slapping in chain stay when your clutch is on or it somtimes it slaps
Best value groupset around
Thank you. Excellent video, very helpful.
15-17-19-21 son Imprescindibles, es una muy buena relación.
Awesome video. Finally someone who reviewes the whole 8000 group. How did you manage to fix the backpedaling problem? I've the same problem on 42T. Thanks
Good review thanks, looking at going 1x11 by early spring, currently running 1x10 with a 32t NW race face front ring and a 11x42 rear cassette using a e13 expander sprocket. some good deals at the mo on M8000 Groupsets £299GBP. Shimano SLX brakes maybe ispecii compatible too.
Beautiful review, congratulations!
Beautiful setup mate
Did you leave the heat shrink tubing inside the frame as a cable housing or is it simply an installation guide that gets pulled out? Thanks for the great video!
Great vid!... Just trying to confirm that the shifter I spec II would be compatible with my Saint Brakes, Its I spec B.. and it seems to work, havent found a clear reply to my doubt..
2 extra links is actually 3 including the disconnected end of chain
Nice share ^^ going 1x11 (XT M8000) myself soon, as I managed to destroy my current SRAM drivetrain >.<
Have gone w/ Blackspire Snaggletooth 30t and 11-40 cassette.
Also have to re-build rear wheel i.e. new hub/spokes - don't ask ;-)
Your vid has me excited about upgrade... I did like the SRAM gear though o_0
Hey man, nice video thanks!
I recently went 1X11 on my Kona as well with the XT M8000 set. One thing i noticed when setting chain length with the +2 links method is that my chain felt way short. Watching your video and your +4 links method - your chain seems to be really pulling the derailleur along way out similar to my primary setup length. I ended up adding 4 links (so that would be length of big cog and chain ring + 6 links!) in order to have my rd nicely tucked at the low gears and roughly perpendicular to the ground on highest gears.. Would appreciate your thoughts.
Happy trailing!
Hi mate how is the XT holding up? How often did you replace parts? Thanks
@@LoveMTB what do you mean with Chains at 0.5?
What did you use for the downtube protection?
Informative, appreciate the bit about the back pedaling and dropping from 42 to 37. I thought that was a fault in my configuration.
Hello again. Is it possible to use this shifter with a SHIMANO GRX RX810 rear derailleur?
No, the Shimano road and MTB pull ratios are different. You want either a Wolftooth Tanpan or the GRX specific 1x Rear Derailleur (RX812).
very nice review, thank you
First, thank you for your videos, second, why did you use the heatshrink tube, just to use it as a guide for the new cable?
I'm thinking of going from 3x10 to 1x11 on my Canyon 26" hardtail. How much range would I be losing this way? Would going to 2x11 or 2x12 be more advisable? I really like the idea of dropping the front derailleur.
Great video BTW
Awesome vid - all the way around! Super helpful for beginners and experienced riders alike........ Quick off topic question, what Forte tires are you running (Tsali rear/Pisgah front??) and how do you like them?
I realized that you are using a long cage rear derailleur for your 1x11 setup?
So, if I understand correctly, you could use your 2x10 crank set for a 2x11 set-up? I've been searching for a couple of hours now, and there is not much to find. Great video's by the way.
Good instructional clip man.
Hi there. Why did you add additional inks to your chain length?
Aha! Thanks for your reply. That is some really good input for a guy riding his first fully :)
Love your vids BTW. #thumbsup
Excellent video ! thank you for sharing !
Hi Mate, Is it possible for cross matching this with Deore 5100? I have m5100 and Xt derailleur and was planning to put the m5100rd with xt shifter using the m5100 cassette and use my xt Rd with m8000 cassette with m5100 shifter.
Hellow can i ask if it is compatible my brakeset m780 xt to xtr m9000 right shifter.
I'm curious to see how well it wears over time compared to 10-speed. I'm still running 9-speed (HG-61 11-36 x 32). Will probably go to 10-speed next as I can get a new Zee drivetrain/shifter for about $100 using existing crankset.
MarzNet256 go to 1x11 instead of hopping by 1x10 ul be happier
jom_ aca I might just do that.
Good video, thanks. The area where you were doing your ride, Milton ON?? Looks familiar.
¿Do you think that the cassette with a SLX double crankset with just one ring (34t) would have a too bad chainline? I use more the low speed and middle gears.
Could you make a review about the hubset of Deore XT M8000? Cheers
+LoveMTB Ow alright that's fine. Thanks anyway
Where were you riding at the end? It looks oddly familiar, Kelso perhaps?
So you can reuse your chainring? Isn't it bad to use a worn front chainring or is that only an issue with 2x and 3x drivetrains?
Hi
What replacement brake pads would you recommend for the M8000? I'm assuming resin?
Hi, is back pedaling part of you biking techniques? Could you share with us when and how you apply in mountain biking? Thanks.
+LoveMTB thanks. Btw, do you have a review on titanium frame mtbs?
Thinking of upgrading to shimano deore xt m8000 rear hub.Since old one locked up i wanted to buy a new one.Is the xt hub good for small jumps,trail rides etc ?
Is there a fix or workaround (aside from not pedalling though) for that back pedal issue on the 42cog?
how much did shifter, chain, casette and derailleur cost?
i have a question. Why are you using a kmc chain instead using a shimano chain are the shift better ?
Hi,why You don't use Shimano chain 701 or 901?
hi bro what model is that torque wrench for freehub cassette ?
Hi everyone! Nice vid! Can mount xtm8000 brake and xtm780 shifter?
With 2x11 set-up using the xt m8000 groupset with 11-42t, which RD should i use, the GS (mid cage) or the SGS (long cage)? Enlighten me!
Great video. I have a question about the ferrules. I had some in my toolbox and I had some (along with cable and housing) from kits I bought in the past. I think they were Jagwire. None of the ferrules I have fit. ?? Do I have to use the ferrules from the Shimano shifter cable kits only?
crown which you use the crank 36 teeth
I've never rode a bike with an oval chainring. Does it feel weird under the feet? Yah its a stupid question....just wondered if it pedals smooth like a regular crank.
I really like that group but I don't know where i can buy it. where did you buy it?
When you install the Cable Ferrule into the shifter do you just press it into the shifter until it makes a clicking noise?
@@LoveMTB The end of the Cable Housing has a Ferrule on it. It goes into the Barrel Adjuster on the front and on the rear there’s also one that sticks in the Rear Derailleur. Do you just push the cable end with the Ferrule into these spots firmly (Compression Fit)?
hi I just got my m8000 11-42 setup running nice and I got the xt rear m8000 mech as well. xt shifter was out of stock so got a xtr m9000 shifter .problem is shifting up feels a little stiff and shifting down I seem to get a loud clunk that I can feel from my saddle it don't seem normal . any ideas ? I'm pleased I've dumped my sram setup as xt ratio is much better for me
why does the chain jump to one of the higher gears when when you are backpaddeling on the biggest cog?
Oi. Bom dia. Eu tenho uma dica quando ao grau xt m800p 2x11. Se o câmbio dianteiro fd-m8025 deve ser instalado ou não com um plástico que vem no câmbio parafusado.
Between the Shimano Deore M5120 SGS rear derailleur and this Shimano XT m-8000 that you show, which one would you recommend for 11 steps? Is there a difference between one and the other?
@@LoveMTB what does it mean?
What's the point of mounting your bottle down there? I had mounted my old bottle cage to my new bike and due to the wider bottom tube it didn't fit straight. (It has a pump mount at the side.) Even so I have a very large mudguard at the front, the bottle always got extremely dirty on the trails. And since I also have a camelback without a cap on top of it, it was a huge problem (I like my water without dirt.) I had to buy a new bottle cage so the downtube shields the bottle. I can only imagine that yours has to be covered in mud when you go out riding.
I think you need at least a different bottle. One with a cap on the mouth piece, you can't drink out of a dirty bottle.
Yeah, I did that to, but I still hated it.
Th thank you so much for making this video I searched online for the specific contact that you cover and it helped me out a ton especially showing exactly how to install the Matchmaker whether it be a lever or shifter I'm looking for a lover and I even emailed the company and they gave me the wrong information thank you for giving me the right information
Slx br-7000 i-spec-II upgrade i just did and needed to know what style match maker i should purchase from either wolftooth or pnw..but you covered that info for me plus alot more..thanks again
what is the adapter for combining brake/shifter as one on bar
what hub did you use for the bike
I have deore XT 2x10 if i want to use 1x11, what will i need?
Awesome!!! Please do a giveaway if your old set👐❤
Is your shifter pretty stiff? Mine is and I'm not sure if it's designed that way or is it because I use old housings that are a bit too long
+LoveMTB weird part is that I cannot detect any change with the clutch off
***** This is indoors also, but it's currently -25C or -13F outside and then the shifter gets completely frozen. Remember, it's brand new, but the thumb lever takes a good while to return after depressing. I think this could be "normal", since I suppose these parts including grease and lubricants are designed to be used in warm weather.
I'll start switching the housing right now, let's see how it goes.
***** I installed the new housing and the motion is much smoother. It's actually designed to be much different from cheaper models. Old one felt linear, but XT feels "bouncy" somehow, however it is now much easier to actuate. Surprisingly, there is not supposed to be a "loop" near the derailleur, like you see with road bikes and such, so the cable and housing is much shorter than normal.
Hi!
I have a Shimano SLX M7000 11-42 cassette, and want to upgrade to 11-46, do I need to change anything else except the cassette?
Tnx for the help! :)
LoveMTB thank you :)
med cage or long cage?
How many teeth is your current chain ring for that set up? I have a 28-38 and 11 - 40 xt casette and im considering going 1x i dont know if i have to go 32T or 34T fpr my chainring. What do you suggest? I go on long rides but i also want to do trail or downhills. Thank you
@@LoveMTB yes mostly on the road. But id love to get on and learn to ride trails maybe even technical ones 😂 uhm what do you mean by spin out ? Sorry hehe. You think i should go with 34T? And would you recommend an oval chainring for my usage? Thank youu
@@LoveMTB how.about oval chainrings? Do you have a vid explaining those and its use cases 😂 Thank you btw i subscribed to your channel🤘
hi, is there any problem with oval chainring when shadow plus lock on ?
I will take your old raceface 😂😂😂 its like trying to find a unicorn where i live :/
Can u put this on any bike would it work on carera vengeance
As I understand, the standard freehub is shimano 9/10. I've been reading through a few comments and you have told others that no other parts are needed to install a xt8000 11gears. Is it true that an 11gears fit right in on a 9/10 freehub?
Even some of the 12 speeds will fit on a normal shimano hub :P Like the sram NX 12 speed cassette or sunrace 12 speed cassette.
I'm seriously considering going to this group set. My Norco 29er was upgraded to Deore M590 series and it shifts rough. Constant tweaking and servicing and it does it again. Pisses me right off! Looked into SRAM NX and reviews seem good. But it can't hold a candle to M8000 for quality and smooth shifting. The Deore shifts like an Acera. "slam bam boom find a gear." lol
Joe N go with the m8000. Its refined,easy to install and works perfect. Sram replacement cassettes and chainrings($100) are way overpriced. You can get 2-3 xt cassettes for price of one nx. Sram also requires a special hub driver for 10t cog and youre stuck with the sram system.
Ive set this drivetrain up on a few customers bikes and tuned up alot more. I think shimano does better testing before products are released to the public. All this aside if you like long rides (4+ hrs) and long climbs in big mtns,
1x might not be for you. Im still riding 3x10 and 2x9 because I need super low gears for my mega- rides and I like being able to find discount parts
I meant to compare price of xt cassettes to GX, which is closer in quality to XT. But still youre paying way more for a cassette of lesser quality. IMO shimano cassettes have always shifted a little better than Sram, they run smoother and the whole systems together are easier and less finicky to tune
i don't get it...is the missing link not reusable for a new chain or non reusable for the current chain after disassembly?
+LoveMTB thanks for the answer...it doesn't make too much sense to me why they would make it like that,but whatever...
Hello. Have a question. I have 2x10 system and thinking of upgrade to 1x11. So, may I install 11 speed cassette on the same wheel where I have 10 speed cassette at the moment? I mean if the same wheel will be compatible with 11 speed? Thanks.
LoveMTB thank You thank You thank You i though I have to buy another part s. Such a great news
Wanted to ask you if your free stroke bolt came very tight when you got the brakes. I brought them but I haven't install it in the bike yet, but I tried to unscrew the bolt and I couldn't do it. I used a flat screwdriver (very carefully), but I think it shouldn't be a problem if the bolt wasn't too tight.
***** I did it counter clockwise and yeah, it's not flat, but didn't have a Philips screwdriver when I tried. I gonna buy one, but still I felt it was too tight, I just hope is not cross threaded or something. Most of the time a flat do the trick and make me concernd about it because in MTBR someone said that one of his brakes the free stroke bolt was really hard to screw/unscrew. Harder than the other brake.
***** Alright, thanks. I will get the right screwdriver and try it again when I install the brakes.
What if my brake is connected to my shifter
how did solve the issue on back pedal drop?