These older intel chips scale to the moon with ram latency, a couple months back I was tweaking a 7700k system and I couldn't even believe the fps I was getting. I don't think people really understand the full impact of actual ram overclocking on framerate. At the time of posting this comment these is still absolutely no CPU out there that is not limited in some way by ram latency. X3D cpus are the closest thing we have and even those scale with low ram latency, (they don't care much for bandwidth though, attest for the games I tested)… This is the biggest advantage of intel CPU's with their monolithic design, Ryzen doesn't scale anywhere near as much. But it does scale even the X3D does surprisingly, but yeah with non X3D/G 5000 series CPUs 50ns is as far as you can go for a daily setup, 49ns is already pushing it but quite doable as well.
Yes, it makes a tremendous impact. It also makes things insanely snappy in windows, something that those chiplets and x3ds still don't have. Full video incoming comparing lazy 4.7/4.3 3200c16 to 5/4.8 4266c16. Spoiler: the difference frequently gets to 30%. RTX 3080 easily stretches its wings like that. That's extremely bad that no one knows how powerful these actually are, thanks to the oblivious out of the box mainstream. People are in complete denial when I tell them fps it can get in some games (like 200 in Warzone), because there's no way to them it can be as fast as the much newer 5700x3d/5800x3d that people think of as a new 1080ti (lol). But who cares, it's their denial. 7700K is still decent with proper tuning, it should easily get to stock 8700K-9700K fps in games.
Бро, огромное спасибо, это как раз то, что я искал. такой же сетап но с 9600к в разгоне до 5.2, все остальные железки топ + разгон... и в WZ 01 и 1 % просто ниже плинтуса... собирать новое поколение возможности нет пока, решил поменять проц на 9900к. Мне под 144 герца больше и не надо по ходу. Спасибо за инфу!
Огромное пожалуйста :) очень приятно слышать Warzone как я предполагаю любит потоки, поэтому с 9600К проблемы. Но память решает все, если хорошо затюнить на 3800-4200мгц со всеми ужатами таймингами + хорошая скорость кольца, в Warzone будет 200фпс и 1% должен быть около 140-150. Edit: 200фпс с 9900K конечно, не 9600К.
Реально perfect combo, отличная связка с отличными параметрами разгона, хватит еще на пару лет минимум для 2к с трассировкой, опять таки если не будет экстра прорыва какого-нибудь
Не думаю что будет какой-то большой прорыв, но игры становятся всё требовательнее. В течение ближайших 3 лет думаю будут сильно заметны эффекты скорости/тюнинга этого процессора с картами в лиге 3080+, особенно с FG которая в купе с Reflex начинает создавать цпу-лимиты. Но мощности хватит ещё как я уверен. На канале скоро будет видео сравнение затюненного i9-9900K с тем что на 4.7/4.3 и 3200cl16. Разница иногда сносит крышу, буквальна равна приростам двух поколений.
ruclips.net/video/-Dmhb1QaNbA/видео.html В некоторых играх я заметил что 9900К + 3200мгц 50нс немного ограничивает 3080, к примеру The Division 2 (80-90% гпу на ультра). Разница в нормальных сценариях тоже будет всё таки.
@@HeartOfAdel Из моего опыта только в киберпанке ощущается иногда недогруз, но там больше дело в игре, мем еще в том, что у меня фпс больше чем у тестеров с ютуба на таких же настройках в таком же спеке но даже с процом лучше чем у меня, но у меня иногда бывает недогруз видяхи, даже со включенным FG, в других играх железно все нормес в которые играл
@@exstiborsch6895ютуберы это вообще другая тема. Самые просматриваемые типа HW и GN вообще как я понимаю все процы тех поколений тестировали с вкл. power limit. Никакого разгона, тюнинга нет и подавно. Бесполезные числа.
Очень нужный видос (был), жаль ты не снял его чуточку раньше, у меня схожий спек, правда i9 9900k инженерный на частоте 4.6 с оперативкой 3200 cl 16 и 4070 OC, перфоманс чуточку получше с учетом всех издержек, правда еще и фср генерация дает больший прирост немного, при худшем качестве чем генерация нвидии
I still have a 10900k with a shitty 4 dimm board. The ram config is 2x16 4400mhz 36.5 with loose RTLs and IOLs, can’t lower them at all because of the board, unfortunately. It would be nice if I could snag an Z490/590 Apex and reach that holy grail of 34-35ns on Comet lake without running in safe mode, but I don’t want to waste any money on older hardware since I have a 13900k rig🤣 would be cool tho
Tweaking slopes helped me get 61/63/7/7 stable on this board, try that out. If it doesn't work, I'd sacrifice 100-200mhz for better timings, as they make more impact without requiring higher SA/IO. Sub 35ns DR is only doable on Apex for 10900K. The latency should only go that low on i9-9900K. Just don't bother, that 10900K is already very fast. My board can still pass tests at 4400cl16 62/64/7/7 1.28 SA/IO and even 4400cl15 60/62/7/7 is desktop usable, but some tertiary timings can't go as tight anymore, I found it to be a waste of silicon. Coffee/Comet Lake shouldn't really need anything above 4200mhz / tightest timings.
With some time and care it's possible to boot into windows at 4533mhz cl16 with still low rtl/iol, and with 4400cl15 5ghz ring latency goes to 32.8ns. Absolutely not daily (cause of the board/dimms), but stupidly fast. www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/168v92y/328ns_latency_4x8gb_4400mhz_cl154533mhz_cl16_on/
I just bought a 12700kf to replace my 10900k since it was on sale for $190.00. It is around 20% faster in CPU bound/memory benchmarks comparing tuned vs tuned (51/49 4133 G1 43ns with same b-die used 12700kf) (52/49 4400mhz 36.5ns). Comet lake still holds up. I think DDR5 would actually be slower on Alder lake considering the DDR5 imc is just plain ass. So pretty much: Comet lake -> Alder lake ~20% Comet lake -> Raptor Lake DDR5 7800mhz+ 40% Some numbers if your curious. Tested on a lot of games. 13900k was running 57/45/50 7800mhz 50ns. Some games hate the E-cores on Raptor lake so I switch between that config and 57/5.1 That 9900k of yours should be pretty identical to my 10900k, excluding the 2 cores Ofc and small cache boost.
@@jameyt1 yep thanks for the numbers! Seems about right. I still believe with tuned DDR5 Alder Lake would get another +5-15%. And RP is probably around 40-50% faster on avg. That's still honestly a rather modest increase in cpu performance after the first i9 considering it's been here since 2018. And it seems there's basically been no improvement (if not degradation) in PC snappiness.
@@HeartOfAdel 8khz mice are also more stable on Raptor Lake, probably due to the higher clock speeds. I think the 13900k/14900k does improve snappiness SLIGHTLY as long as e cores are off so it’s not adding any DPC/Process latency. But yeah… not too noticeable. it’s really hard to achieve a perfect polling rate of 8000hz, with my 13900k I get drops to 7000hz still with USB connected to the xHCI slot and all.
Hey, how fast responsive and snappy is your 9900k in daily general windows usage like app openings and stuff.Iam buying a 9700k from a 5600x just bcz of the latency and snapiness that Intel chips have in general, Will I see a difference in that regard ?
Hey, I have a hard time telling because I've never seen 5600x in action. I think the difference will be there if you are sensitive like some people have noticed. And if you do a lot of fast microtasks (that's when supposedly there should be more difference) And yes, it's very very snappy. I think the major responsiveness improvement comes from ram/ring tuning, it makes an insane difference in system latency/smoothness, like gaining extra 60hz on my 240hz monitor. I'm currently back to windows 10, and on windows 11 the difference between tuned and untuned 9900K was more noticeable. So I think on win11 latency issues should be more apparent.
I'm also not sure if it's worth it in general, especially if you spend much money. In gaming they're about the same, productivity too. The only upside is that superior latency which not everyone can notice. It's also kinda necessary to have fast ram and good subtimings to unleash the snap and full gaming speed. Have a look at my new video to see the difference.
@@HeartOfAdel My 5600 isn't less snappy but I do notice some delays while opening file explorer from taskbar, device manager etc considering I've even optimized debloated and tweaked my windows for latency but still.I started noticing more when I saw an intel (eg. i7 10700k) open file explorer and other programs in a blink of an eye and feeling overall more snappy that too on a 60fps video, it would feel even more snappier on my 240hz monitor, that's when I decided to switch to intel also the Ram latency on intel is a big reason for me I get around 57ns on 4000MHz @cl18 @1.45v (it was 64ns on stock 3200 c16) Iam currently using windows 11 and I did try windows 10 but it still felt less snappier than I saw on intel.Will the 9700k also have the same snappiness as a 9900k ? because it's probably a 9900k but without HT. I've also heard people saying that 9900k is still snappier than most of the newer CPUs.....I just hope my 9700k won't dissapoint me atleast in terms of overall snapiness and latency
@@HeartOfAdel Iam getting the 9700k in the same price and yes Iam a latency freak and I do notice slightest of the delays aswell, I do have samsung D die right now running in 1:1 at 4000MHz CL18@1.45V I think it would go even higher on intel do you think I should get it then?
@@bazilhussain3378 I can't be responsible for your decision. But if there's no money loss and good ram at hand (provided you're a latency freak) then why not..? I'd still consider only 9900K though to be a clear improvement over 5600x in every way possible. 9700K - really depends
Great Vid. But how on earth do u have 190 average fps on the finals competitive settings. Have same oc on 3080 fe also have i7 11700k 5ghz all cores @55 Degree Celsius and my max fps is 130 -150 (same settings). Only difference is my ram corsair vengance ddr4 3600 cl18 stock only xmp enabled. But i doubt it that, that makes 40fps difference. You have maybe any ideas?
That's Intel tuning magic :) In all honesty you've just answered your own question - memory and latency (high ring clock should help as well). Xmp slows things down a lot. You'll probably get the same fps after tuning. That map also has a bit better highs than some others, plus I've heard TAAU can help. That gave it a bit extra. It still gets around 200fps avg everywhere else, with destructions dropping things to 160-170. RTX 3080 with i9-9900K are really damn fast in 2023. Thanks for watching! ✊
@@HeartOfAdel That is crazy. Sadly my ram is c-die and is not able to really overclock even with insane voltages. Best was 55ns... from 60ns stock (And even that improved fps by 5-10fps). You got any recommendations for good ram? Or u think its more worth just waiting and upgrading to ddr5 and 14th gen or 15th later on?
@@HeadsEnjoyerI think it depends on how long you're going to stay with RTX 3080. If 11700K is fully tuned it's close to 13600/5800x3d in games which is plenty fast for this card for years to come. In that case, finding cheap bdies will be of huge benefit, Asgard Bragi V3 that I own or something else at 3200-3600 cl14. If you plan on getting a newer card, or you're not into fiddling, then it's better to buy something new. 11700K is fast enough even on xmp, so I'd just wait.
не жалко жарить процессор под 70 градусов при неполной загрузке (в киберпанке)? какие температуры в стресс-тестах я боюсь представить, или вы играми тестируете? какой вольтаж? если он выше 1.35, то это не есть хорошо.
Жарить? 😂 70 градусов при 70-80% нагрузке это хорошая температура для 8-ми ядерного разгонанного процессора. Напряжение и прочее есть в описании. 5ггц ядра 4.8 кольцо едут на 1.24в при макс нагрузке, что в купе с 70-80 градусами очень адекватно. В стресс тестах температура приемлемая, 75-85 в occt large extreme avx2 при 180-200в. В играх немного горячее из-за кульков 3080 FE, но 150-170в это макс при 100% когда там компиляция шейдеров.
И 1.35 это абсолютно небезопасное напряжение с очень быстрой памятью, макс это 1.25-1.3. С каким каким нибудь медленным xmp 3200-3600 cl14, вполне безопасно.
Добрейшего времени суток! Правду ли говорят о том что мышь мега отзывчивая( или по крайней мере отзывчивее чем на новых поколениях ) на этом проце, с учетом норм разгона?
@@1s0no72 то что она очень отзывчия тут нет сомнений) но я уже привык к тому что компьютер очень быстрый когда полностью настроен, меня это не удивляет. С 10900К должно быть похожее. Если верить тому что говорят, то 9900KS/10900K должны быть более отзывчивыми в некоторых задачах, но мне кое-какие люди тут писали мол 13900K на 6ггц с быстрой памятью может иногда иметь отклик и получше. Я не имею возможности тестировать, да и в инете нет тестов с такими разгонами.
@@HeartOfAdel спасибо за ответ) На самом деле 9900KS порядком удивляет в плане производительности! На данный момент решил затестировать ам5(r7 7700) после 1700(12100f, после - 12600к) и в плане отзывчивости это буквально ад, играть во что-либо помимо стратегий невозможно... Но на 12100F геймплей относительно играбельный, вот и ищу вменяемый вариант, не особо смотря на производительность. Один человек в отзывах под 12900K писал: фпс дофига, толку нифига (имелся ввиду инпут лаг), позже, он же в отзывах на 10900К писал, что наконец то нашел так называемый грааль задержек) Что касается 13900К, то там цена на норм комплектующие уже кусачая)
@@1s0no72здесь уже по ощущениям, бери что считаешь лучшим для себя. Если вправду эти задержки есть и ты их замечаешь, то 10900К конечно отличный. Но ему нужна будет хорошая ужатая память и разгон чтобы он догнал стоковые Zen4/12th Gen/5000X3D 😊
These older intel chips scale to the moon with ram latency, a couple months back I was tweaking a 7700k system and I couldn't even believe the fps I was getting. I don't think people really understand the full impact of actual ram overclocking on framerate. At the time of posting this comment these is still absolutely no CPU out there that is not limited in some way by ram latency. X3D cpus are the closest thing we have and even those scale with low ram latency, (they don't care much for bandwidth though, attest for the games I tested)…
This is the biggest advantage of intel CPU's with their monolithic design, Ryzen doesn't scale anywhere near as much. But it does scale even the X3D does surprisingly, but yeah with non X3D/G 5000 series CPUs 50ns is as far as you can go for a daily setup, 49ns is already pushing it but quite doable as well.
Yes, it makes a tremendous impact. It also makes things insanely snappy in windows, something that those chiplets and x3ds still don't have. Full video incoming comparing lazy 4.7/4.3 3200c16 to 5/4.8 4266c16. Spoiler: the difference frequently gets to 30%. RTX 3080 easily stretches its wings like that.
That's extremely bad that no one knows how powerful these actually are, thanks to the oblivious out of the box mainstream. People are in complete denial when I tell them fps it can get in some games (like 200 in Warzone), because there's no way to them it can be as fast as the much newer 5700x3d/5800x3d that people think of as a new 1080ti (lol). But who cares, it's their denial.
7700K is still decent with proper tuning, it should easily get to stock 8700K-9700K fps in games.
Бро, огромное спасибо, это как раз то, что я искал. такой же сетап но с 9600к в разгоне до 5.2, все остальные железки топ + разгон... и в WZ 01 и 1 % просто ниже плинтуса... собирать новое поколение возможности нет пока, решил поменять проц на 9900к. Мне под 144 герца больше и не надо по ходу. Спасибо за инфу!
Огромное пожалуйста :) очень приятно слышать
Warzone как я предполагаю любит потоки, поэтому с 9600К проблемы. Но память решает все, если хорошо затюнить на 3800-4200мгц со всеми ужатами таймингами + хорошая скорость кольца, в Warzone будет 200фпс и 1% должен быть около 140-150.
Edit: 200фпс с 9900K конечно, не 9600К.
Реально perfect combo, отличная связка с отличными параметрами разгона, хватит еще на пару лет минимум для 2к с трассировкой, опять таки если не будет экстра прорыва какого-нибудь
Не думаю что будет какой-то большой прорыв, но игры становятся всё требовательнее. В течение ближайших 3 лет думаю будут сильно заметны эффекты скорости/тюнинга этого процессора с картами в лиге 3080+, особенно с FG которая в купе с Reflex начинает создавать цпу-лимиты. Но мощности хватит ещё как я уверен.
На канале скоро будет видео сравнение затюненного i9-9900K с тем что на 4.7/4.3 и 3200cl16. Разница иногда сносит крышу, буквальна равна приростам двух поколений.
ruclips.net/video/-Dmhb1QaNbA/видео.html
В некоторых играх я заметил что 9900К + 3200мгц 50нс немного ограничивает 3080, к примеру The Division 2 (80-90% гпу на ультра). Разница в нормальных сценариях тоже будет всё таки.
@@HeartOfAdel Из моего опыта только в киберпанке ощущается иногда недогруз, но там больше дело в игре, мем еще в том, что у меня фпс больше чем у тестеров с ютуба на таких же настройках в таком же спеке но даже с процом лучше чем у меня, но у меня иногда бывает недогруз видяхи, даже со включенным FG, в других играх железно все нормес в которые играл
@@HeartOfAdel Оперативка 4400 с норм таймингами конечно дает свой результат, я с этим не спорю - база
@@exstiborsch6895ютуберы это вообще другая тема. Самые просматриваемые типа HW и GN вообще как я понимаю все процы тех поколений тестировали с вкл. power limit. Никакого разгона, тюнинга нет и подавно. Бесполезные числа.
Очень нужный видос (был), жаль ты не снял его чуточку раньше, у меня схожий спек, правда i9 9900k инженерный на частоте 4.6 с оперативкой 3200 cl 16 и 4070 OC, перфоманс чуточку получше с учетом всех издержек, правда еще и фср генерация дает больший прирост немного, при худшем качестве чем генерация нвидии
Thank you for this video!
Thank You for watching! :)
Do you have any good video recommendations on how to RAM overclock?
I kinda don't. I've mostly learnt through trial and error reading things here and there sporadically. You might want to check out Buildzoid.
I still have a 10900k with a shitty 4 dimm board. The ram config is 2x16 4400mhz 36.5 with loose RTLs and IOLs, can’t lower them at all because of the board, unfortunately. It would be nice if I could snag an Z490/590 Apex and reach that holy grail of 34-35ns on Comet lake without running in safe mode, but I don’t want to waste any money on older hardware since I have a 13900k rig🤣 would be cool tho
Tweaking slopes helped me get 61/63/7/7 stable on this board, try that out. If it doesn't work, I'd sacrifice 100-200mhz for better timings, as they make more impact without requiring higher SA/IO. Sub 35ns DR is only doable on Apex for 10900K. The latency should only go that low on i9-9900K. Just don't bother, that 10900K is already very fast.
My board can still pass tests at 4400cl16 62/64/7/7 1.28 SA/IO and even 4400cl15 60/62/7/7 is desktop usable, but some tertiary timings can't go as tight anymore, I found it to be a waste of silicon. Coffee/Comet Lake shouldn't really need anything above 4200mhz / tightest timings.
With some time and care it's possible to boot into windows at 4533mhz cl16 with still low rtl/iol, and with 4400cl15 5ghz ring latency goes to 32.8ns. Absolutely not daily (cause of the board/dimms), but stupidly fast. www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/168v92y/328ns_latency_4x8gb_4400mhz_cl154533mhz_cl16_on/
I just bought a 12700kf to replace my 10900k since it was on sale for $190.00. It is around 20% faster in CPU bound/memory benchmarks comparing tuned vs tuned (51/49 4133 G1 43ns with same b-die used 12700kf) (52/49 4400mhz 36.5ns). Comet lake still holds up. I think DDR5 would actually be slower on Alder lake considering the DDR5 imc is just plain ass. So pretty much:
Comet lake -> Alder lake ~20%
Comet lake -> Raptor Lake DDR5 7800mhz+ 40%
Some numbers if your curious. Tested on a lot of games. 13900k was running 57/45/50 7800mhz 50ns. Some games hate the E-cores on Raptor lake so I switch between that config and 57/5.1 That 9900k of yours should be pretty identical to my 10900k, excluding the 2 cores Ofc and small cache boost.
@@jameyt1 yep thanks for the numbers! Seems about right. I still believe with tuned DDR5 Alder Lake would get another +5-15%. And RP is probably around 40-50% faster on avg. That's still honestly a rather modest increase in cpu performance after the first i9 considering it's been here since 2018. And it seems there's basically been no improvement (if not degradation) in PC snappiness.
@@HeartOfAdel 8khz mice are also more stable on Raptor Lake, probably due to the higher clock speeds. I think the 13900k/14900k does improve snappiness SLIGHTLY as long as e cores are off so it’s not adding any DPC/Process latency. But yeah… not too noticeable. it’s really hard to achieve a perfect polling rate of 8000hz, with my 13900k I get drops to 7000hz still with USB connected to the xHCI slot and all.
Hey, how fast responsive and snappy is your 9900k in daily general windows usage like app openings and stuff.Iam buying a 9700k from a 5600x just bcz of the latency and snapiness that Intel chips have in general, Will I see a difference in that regard ?
Hey, I have a hard time telling because I've never seen 5600x in action. I think the difference will be there if you are sensitive like some people have noticed. And if you do a lot of fast microtasks (that's when supposedly there should be more difference)
And yes, it's very very snappy. I think the major responsiveness improvement comes from ram/ring tuning, it makes an insane difference in system latency/smoothness, like gaining extra 60hz on my 240hz monitor. I'm currently back to windows 10, and on windows 11 the difference between tuned and untuned 9900K was more noticeable. So I think on win11 latency issues should be more apparent.
I'm also not sure if it's worth it in general, especially if you spend much money. In gaming they're about the same, productivity too. The only upside is that superior latency which not everyone can notice.
It's also kinda necessary to have fast ram and good subtimings to unleash the snap and full gaming speed. Have a look at my new video to see the difference.
@@HeartOfAdel My 5600 isn't less snappy but I do notice some delays while opening file explorer from taskbar, device manager etc considering I've even optimized debloated and tweaked my windows for latency but still.I started noticing more when I saw an intel (eg. i7 10700k) open file explorer and other programs in a blink of an eye and feeling overall more snappy that too on a 60fps video, it would feel even more snappier on my 240hz monitor, that's when I decided to switch to intel also the Ram latency on intel is a big reason for me I get around 57ns on 4000MHz @cl18 @1.45v (it was 64ns on stock 3200 c16) Iam currently using windows 11 and I did try windows 10 but it still felt less snappier than I saw on intel.Will the 9700k also have the same snappiness as a 9900k ? because it's probably a 9900k but without HT. I've also heard people saying that 9900k is still snappier than most of the newer CPUs.....I just hope my 9700k won't dissapoint me atleast in terms of overall snapiness and latency
@@HeartOfAdel Iam getting the 9700k in the same price and yes Iam a latency freak and I do notice slightest of the delays aswell, I do have samsung D die right now running in 1:1 at 4000MHz CL18@1.45V I think it would go even higher on intel do you think I should get it then?
@@bazilhussain3378 I can't be responsible for your decision. But if there's no money loss and good ram at hand (provided you're a latency freak) then why not..? I'd still consider only 9900K though to be a clear improvement over 5600x in every way possible. 9700K - really depends
Great Vid. But how on earth do u have 190 average fps on the finals competitive settings. Have same oc on 3080 fe also have i7 11700k 5ghz all cores @55 Degree Celsius and my max fps is 130 -150 (same settings). Only difference is my ram corsair vengance ddr4 3600 cl18 stock only xmp enabled. But i doubt it that, that makes 40fps difference. You have maybe any ideas?
That's Intel tuning magic :)
In all honesty you've just answered your own question - memory and latency (high ring clock should help as well). Xmp slows things down a lot. You'll probably get the same fps after tuning.
That map also has a bit better highs than some others, plus I've heard TAAU can help. That gave it a bit extra. It still gets around 200fps avg everywhere else, with destructions dropping things to 160-170. RTX 3080 with i9-9900K are really damn fast in 2023.
Thanks for watching! ✊
@@HeartOfAdel That is crazy. Sadly my ram is c-die and is not able to really overclock even with insane voltages. Best was 55ns... from 60ns stock (And even that improved fps by 5-10fps). You got any recommendations for good ram? Or u think its more worth just waiting and upgrading to ddr5 and 14th gen or 15th later on?
@@HeadsEnjoyerI think it depends on how long you're going to stay with RTX 3080. If 11700K is fully tuned it's close to 13600/5800x3d in games which is plenty fast for this card for years to come. In that case, finding cheap bdies will be of huge benefit, Asgard Bragi V3 that I own or something else at 3200-3600 cl14.
If you plan on getting a newer card, or you're not into fiddling, then it's better to buy something new. 11700K is fast enough even on xmp, so I'd just wait.
Check out the new video. You can see what the gains are in Finals and other games.
hey, try setting nvidia reflex to "On" instead of "On+boost"; Actually makes like 40-50fps difference in the Finals somehow
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Thanks bro ✊
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не жалко жарить процессор под 70 градусов при неполной загрузке (в киберпанке)?
какие температуры в стресс-тестах я боюсь представить, или вы играми тестируете?
какой вольтаж? если он выше 1.35, то это не есть хорошо.
Жарить? 😂
70 градусов при 70-80% нагрузке это хорошая температура для 8-ми ядерного разгонанного процессора. Напряжение и прочее есть в описании. 5ггц ядра 4.8 кольцо едут на 1.24в при макс нагрузке, что в купе с 70-80 градусами очень адекватно.
В стресс тестах температура приемлемая, 75-85 в occt large extreme avx2 при 180-200в. В играх немного горячее из-за кульков 3080 FE, но 150-170в это макс при 100% когда там компиляция шейдеров.
И 1.35 это абсолютно небезопасное напряжение с очень быстрой памятью, макс это 1.25-1.3. С каким каким нибудь медленным xmp 3200-3600 cl14, вполне безопасно.
а через что записывал ( обс )
Shadow Play
понял-спасибо.@@HeartOfAdel
Добрейшего времени суток!
Правду ли говорят о том что мышь мега отзывчивая( или по крайней мере отзывчивее чем на новых поколениях ) на этом проце, с учетом норм разгона?
И что думаешь о 10900К, смотря на отзывчивость?
@@1s0no72 то что она очень отзывчия тут нет сомнений) но я уже привык к тому что компьютер очень быстрый когда полностью настроен, меня это не удивляет. С 10900К должно быть похожее.
Если верить тому что говорят, то 9900KS/10900K должны быть более отзывчивыми в некоторых задачах, но мне кое-какие люди тут писали мол 13900K на 6ггц с быстрой памятью может иногда иметь отклик и получше. Я не имею возможности тестировать, да и в инете нет тестов с такими разгонами.
@@HeartOfAdel спасибо за ответ)
На самом деле 9900KS порядком удивляет в плане производительности!
На данный момент решил затестировать ам5(r7 7700) после 1700(12100f, после - 12600к) и в плане отзывчивости это буквально ад, играть во что-либо помимо стратегий невозможно...
Но на 12100F геймплей относительно играбельный, вот и ищу вменяемый вариант, не особо смотря на производительность.
Один человек в отзывах под 12900K писал: фпс дофига, толку нифига (имелся ввиду инпут лаг), позже, он же в отзывах на 10900К писал, что наконец то нашел так называемый грааль задержек)
Что касается 13900К, то там цена на норм комплектующие уже кусачая)
@@1s0no72здесь уже по ощущениям, бери что считаешь лучшим для себя. Если вправду эти задержки есть и ты их замечаешь, то 10900К конечно отличный. Но ему нужна будет хорошая ужатая память и разгон чтобы он догнал стоковые Zen4/12th Gen/5000X3D 😊
красавчик.
благодарю. ;)