Definitely needed this I’m in high school and I’m in volleyball! Everything is Different because of corona. So we’re all trying to have games and to keep practicing and when we were learning this rotation I felt I was the worse one because I was so confused! Thank you!
Only change I make for rotation names is change them to rotation 1(when s1 is in zone 1) rotation 6(when s1 is in zone 6) etc. This is mainly for when I am coaching and teaching 6-2/5-1 so the kids reinforce zones and can easily see where the setter is and line up where they should be.
Hi there, thank you for your video and explanations. I would like to know what's the app you used for the visuals of this video? It would be great to use that to demonstrate to the Team their strengths and weaknesses. Thank you.
@charliehuber1128 each team is a little different. I do believe that most teams will have the libero take that 2nd ball, although in a 4-2 it might be more beneficial for the back row setter to take the 2nd ball
Hi, Can you explain to me why most 4-2s have the outside next to setter and not the middle? So your front row (from position 2-4) is Setter, Outside, Middle. Why not S, M, O? Thanks...Old dog trying to understand a new trick.
This is a great question. There are reasons for either way. In a 4-2, it may not matter as much. I have run a 4-2 doing S-M-O instead of S-O-M. For less experienced team, S-M-O may be easier because there isn't as much switching on Serve Receive. In a 6-2 and a 5-1, S-O-M tends to be more beneficial.
So you don’t have the back row switch during serve receive? I know you stay for one. I like to keep my front row staying for one and then we switch after the ball goes over. Do you switch the back row after the ball goes over?
Each team is a little different. With most teams, I like my Outsides to be on the Left side, my Middles to be in the middles and my Setters to be on the right side. Typically, I would switch the back row after the ball goes back over the net. But it depends on the personnel and which rotation we are in.
I’m wondering if it’s not more appropriate to switch once your team has returned the ball than during the serve receive. What if the serve end up in the front zone during the switch. 4-2 is used mostly for beginners, that’s the reason I’d keep the front where they are until we return the ball then we switch. Am I wrong ?
You are correct! I would typically use that option for less experienced teams. We simply call it "Stay 1" where you stay in the position you are in until the ball is returned to the other side. It still takes a lot of repetitions to get players to remember to switch. Another option is to run a 6-6 where everyone plays the position they are I. with the Setter being in Right Front.
What are your thoughts on doing this with no middles but swapping right side hitters? I’m doing something similar with my team this year. Having right side and outside hitters. But when they are back row they will not swap, but play all three positions.
The beauty of volleyball is that you can make it whatever you want to make it. These systems can help with a general structure but each team is different. I've seen some pretty unique setups for rotations
Hello, Just curious on why you have the middle serving in rotation 1? I am used to seeing the setter start in rotation 1. Does it make any difference in your opinion?
That's a good question. This rotation video was made for a particular team in mind. And if I remember correctly, the Setter was one of the better servers who we wanted to be our first server. Since we are starting with SERVE RECEIVE, once we side out, our Setter will be the first server in this video. Ultimately, it does not matter who the first server is. With my upcoming season, I may actually start in Rotation 4 (running a 5-1) because that server and the 2 servers after that are my best servers. Every team is a little different and I like to play to my strengths. I hope that helps :)
@@joeljaeespinosa2074 he can if he attacks the ball below the height of the net in front of the 10ft line OR he can attack above the height of the net if he is behind the 10ft line
Hi Thrive, I am also a coach and have been looking for a good program to use to demonstrate roles, responsibilities, and movement. What software program(s) did you use for this video or do you recommend? Thanks!
Hi, coach! For these, I use Adobe After Effects and animate them myself. There are some other apps that are easier that might accomplish something like this -- PlayDrill.com and Rotate123 are the more popular ones I hear other coaches talk about.
@@ThriveVolleyball thanks for the fast reply yeah were a brand new team with alot of members so wanted to see if i could play libero to involve an extra middle player great to know keep up the good work 😁😁
I make the courts in Photoshop and then animate them I Adobe After Effects. It's not the most practical way but it's what I know.. I believe there are some free apps that allows a person to create diagrams and animate them.
I know that I have made one before, I just need to find it. I know I have this video which I made specifically for my team and it goes over a 6-2 and 5-1 ruclips.net/video/bPgF1hK5KpI/видео.html
@kcgracehall You rotate every time you side out. If the other team is serving and you win the point, that is called a "side out" and you will rotate and then serve the ball. If your team is serving and you lose the point, you stay in that rotation until you side out again
Great question. I use Adobe After Effects because I also do film editing. However, there is an app called Coach Tactic Board that is probably simpler to use for animations.
That is a great question and as with most things volleyball -- it depends. If you are running a 4-2, it may not have a big impact. I have run a 4-2 with my Setter following my Middle. But if you are running a 6-2 or a 5-1, you need to be a little more strategic with how you do you Serve Receive. With most teams, having the Setter follow the Outside tends to work better but one year I had a Middle who was also my best passer
Great question. Technically 6 rotations because of 6 players, but after the first 3 rotations, the next 3 rotations look exactly the same in a 4-2 system. Hope that helps :)
![How to Run a 4-2 in Volleyball [Serving Rotations]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wMxxiKYsAx0/mqdefault.jpg)
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Definitely needed this I’m in high school and I’m in volleyball! Everything is Different because of corona. So we’re all trying to have games and to keep practicing and when we were learning this rotation I felt I was the worse one because I was so confused! Thank you!
I’m so glad I ran into this bc I’m in middle school and I do not understand this so this really helped me a lot👍🏻
Great explanation
Only change I make for rotation names is change them to rotation 1(when s1 is in zone 1) rotation 6(when s1 is in zone 6) etc. This is mainly for when I am coaching and teaching 6-2/5-1 so the kids reinforce zones and can easily see where the setter is and line up where they should be.
I have seen some other coaches do that as well. Whatever works!
Hi there, thank you for your video and explanations. I would like to know what's the app you used for the visuals of this video? It would be great to use that to demonstrate to the Team their strengths and weaknesses. Thank you.
@@TacianaSegattoMoreira I use Adobe After Effects for the animations, but there is a free phone app that can do similar things... Coach Tactic Board
@@ThriveVolleyballthank you so much for your help. Much appreciated!
this is so helpful, thank you
Thanks cuh
thank u so so much this is so helpful
You're welcome!
so lets say that the front row setter takes the first ball. who would grab help? the libero/back row middle or the backrow setter?
@charliehuber1128 each team is a little different. I do believe that most teams will have the libero take that 2nd ball, although in a 4-2 it might be more beneficial for the back row setter to take the 2nd ball
Once the ball played by back row and hit to the setter in serve receive, do the players go to base defense or is that just when we serve?
Great question. Once your team sends the ball back over the net, that is when they will switch to Base Defense
Hi, Can you explain to me why most 4-2s have the outside next to setter and not the middle? So your front row (from position 2-4) is Setter, Outside, Middle. Why not S, M, O? Thanks...Old dog trying to understand a new trick.
This is a great question. There are reasons for either way. In a 4-2, it may not matter as much. I have run a 4-2 doing S-M-O instead of S-O-M. For less experienced team, S-M-O may be easier because there isn't as much switching on Serve Receive. In a 6-2 and a 5-1, S-O-M tends to be more beneficial.
So… what does H now stands for?
@@Subsessor Sorry, that is supposed to be an "M". I edited it for you.
@@ThriveVolleyball all right, thanks a lot :)
Hi! Can you also upload serving rotations please?
Thank you! :)
So you don’t have the back row switch during serve receive? I know you stay for one. I like to keep my front row staying for one and then we switch after the ball goes over. Do you switch the back row after the ball goes over?
Each team is a little different. With most teams, I like my Outsides to be on the Left side, my Middles to be in the middles and my Setters to be on the right side.
Typically, I would switch the back row after the ball goes back over the net. But it depends on the personnel and which rotation we are in.
I’m wondering if it’s not more appropriate to switch once your team has returned the ball than during the serve receive. What if the serve end up in the front zone during the switch. 4-2 is used mostly for beginners, that’s the reason I’d keep the front where they are until we return the ball then we switch. Am I wrong ?
You are correct! I would typically use that option for less experienced teams. We simply call it "Stay 1" where you stay in the position you are in until the ball is returned to the other side.
It still takes a lot of repetitions to get players to remember to switch.
Another option is to run a 6-6 where everyone plays the position they are I. with the Setter being in Right Front.
What are your thoughts on doing this with no middles but swapping right side hitters? I’m doing something similar with my team this year. Having right side and outside hitters. But when they are back row they will not swap, but play all three positions.
The beauty of volleyball is that you can make it whatever you want to make it. These systems can help with a general structure but each team is different. I've seen some pretty unique setups for rotations
Hello,
Just curious on why you have the middle serving in rotation 1? I am used to seeing the setter start in rotation 1. Does it make any difference in your opinion?
That's a good question. This rotation video was made for a particular team in mind. And if I remember correctly, the Setter was one of the better servers who we wanted to be our first server. Since we are starting with SERVE RECEIVE, once we side out, our Setter will be the first server in this video.
Ultimately, it does not matter who the first server is. With my upcoming season, I may actually start in Rotation 4 (running a 5-1) because that server and the 2 servers after that are my best servers.
Every team is a little different and I like to play to my strengths. I hope that helps :)
If the setter is in the back row position can he spike the ball towards the opponent?
@@joeljaeespinosa2074 he can if he attacks the ball below the height of the net in front of the 10ft line OR he can attack above the height of the net if he is behind the 10ft line
Hi Thrive, I am also a coach and have been looking for a good program to use to demonstrate roles, responsibilities, and movement. What software program(s) did you use for this video or do you recommend? Thanks!
Hi, coach! For these, I use Adobe After Effects and animate them myself. There are some other apps that are easier that might accomplish something like this -- PlayDrill.com and Rotate123 are the more popular ones I hear other coaches talk about.
@@ThriveVolleyball Great, thank you!
thank you, you helped a lot
Daft question but can you have a libero on a 4 2 formation
Good question! You sure can. I see a lot of younger teams run a 4-2 and use a libero (or two) so that more players get a chance to play
@@ThriveVolleyball thanks for the fast reply yeah were a brand new team with alot of members so wanted to see if i could play libero to involve an extra middle player great to know keep up the good work 😁😁
Are there no rightsides in a 4:2?
@daphne0205 technically no because a 4-2 uses a front row Setter who plays in right front
But hitters can still hit from the right side if they want
What software are you using for diagrams?
I make the courts in Photoshop and then animate them I Adobe After Effects. It's not the most practical way but it's what I know..
I believe there are some free apps that allows a person to create diagrams and animate them.
Can u please do the 5-1 rotation
I know that I have made one before, I just need to find it.
I know I have this video which I made specifically for my team and it goes over a 6-2 and 5-1
ruclips.net/video/bPgF1hK5KpI/видео.html
When do you go into rotation 2??
@@kcgracehall If you are in Serve Receive rotation 1, after you score a point you will rotate into Rotation 2
@@ThriveVolleyball you are AMAZING thank you so much!
@@ThriveVolleyball okay so after winning the serve we stay in rotation 1 until we score a point?
Or do we go into rotation 2 when we win the serve
@kcgracehall You rotate every time you side out. If the other team is serving and you win the point, that is called a "side out" and you will rotate and then serve the ball. If your team is serving and you lose the point, you stay in that rotation until you side out again
The front row don’t receive? Then who gets the super short serves?
The two back who suppose to get short balls
Does anyone know what app or program he is using
Great question. I use Adobe After Effects because I also do film editing. However, there is an app called Coach Tactic Board that is probably simpler to use for animations.
is there an advantage to have the setter follow the middle vs setter follow the OS on the initial setup
That is a great question and as with most things volleyball -- it depends. If you are running a 4-2, it may not have a big impact. I have run a 4-2 with my Setter following my Middle. But if you are running a 6-2 or a 5-1, you need to be a little more strategic with how you do you Serve Receive. With most teams, having the Setter follow the Outside tends to work better but one year I had a Middle who was also my best passer
"in a 4-2 there are only 3 rotations" My brain sees six athletes therefore six rotations. Could you explain what is meant by only 3?
Great question. Technically 6 rotations because of 6 players, but after the first 3 rotations, the next 3 rotations look exactly the same in a 4-2 system. Hope that helps :)
“Listen to your coach” mans wasn’t sure😹🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
If you put video player it's more easy to understand.
I’m still very confused
@@TaylorM442 What part are you most confused about?
@@ThriveVolleyball Like how when the ball comes we are supposed to move out the way