A table spoon of soybean oil has the same amount of estrogen(natural female hormone) quivalent to a birth control pill. As you can see, many men are seeking women hood after the stuff it in everything. Not a coincidence.
@@angelicalee6 Just wait until they figure out the right chemicals to produce the right aroma. And with the insect enthusiasts you will get ultra processed insect burgers soon enough.
@@kevinreilly6774 Its because the government protects these corporations and makes it harder for your local producers of food to compete. Not saying there should be no regulations but there are many that simply exists to encourage dependence on these few major food corporations. Buy as local as possible whenever possible stop buying this junk. That is how the average person fights back. Voting is all good but people need to make actionable changes over what they fully have control over.
No it shouldn't, because blanketed entire types of food is retarded. Don't listen to these fools who know nothing, and get rich off misinformed fads. Do some ultra processed foods have less nutrients? Sure. They can also be easier to digest at the same time. They are also cheaper. You know what is worse than having ultra processed food? Having no food. Also the government shouldn't control what people eat as long as it isn't clearly harmful. Which ultra processed food is not. There are better options. Moderation is key when it comes to doing drugs and diet. Anyone who blankets artifical versus natural or non processed versus ultra processed are DUMB.
People need to stop buying it first. Otherwise no change will happen. 😢 and people will never stop buying cheaper and cheaper foods... so... our bellies is gonna be plastic and rubber at the end of it. Just like the fish in the ocean. 😢
@@Tree1715 Yeh you got it kid, honey is pollen which is life, your meat has all the minerals so you dont need salt. Yogurt and cheese are made from protein which HAS to be made by life.
@@Tree1715 Ice isnt a bad one but theres no neccesity. Can you think of ANYTHING we need that doesnt come from life? Now go check your ingredients list and see what is and isnt from life. Ez. Once you know, you know.
Just the question of what is the difference between processed and ultra processed shows how thoroughly Dr. Peterson thinks about everything. Thank you sir, you have taught me so very much.
And he did it to limit food production. He's part of the global elite faction that believes we need to drastically reduce the global population. Literally a super villain.
@@flemming1535 look up his comments about population control, he's openly said it in interviews. He makes it sound nice by talking about climate change and innovating food production while reducing grazing land and phasing out meats in our diets. Ultimately it boils down to population control when you add it all up.
Like Kraft singles. “Cheese Product”. They actually claim it’s cheese. Then there is Velveeta, which is clearly Bondo in block form, without the hardener applied.
And isn't that kind of "cheese" not cheese because of the milk content and an emulsifier to make it melty and creamier? Like if you're making Alfredo with just butter and Parmesan for a big group that will take a while to serve, you need an emulsifier so it doesn't turn into a clumped up brick of pasta.
@@ausholeI'm italian, so I've never cooked nor tasted "Alfredo" in my life. But I've cooked plenty of big portions of pasta with many different cheese, and regularly cook pasta for friends and family. I never used any kind of "emulsifier" nor ultra-processed industrial product. The way you avoid having a giant blob of pasta is by using proper pasta and cooking it the right amount, and then serving it quickly in not gigantic portions. A small quantity of cooking water (like ½ spoon per portion) will help in certain situations.
@@jkorok6357 first off, not all cheese is ultra-processed, and even the one that is ultra processed (blue cheese for example) is not ultra processed to turn trash into food-like stuff, but to achieve a particular taste. That's the issue: processing the food is not a problem, humanity does it since the beginning of civilisation. Using 53 chemical additives to turn the worst quality ingredients into something that seems edible and not always is but can be produced in mass for very cheap it's another thing entirely. Also, I specified "industrial" for a reason.
Wish they'd come up with a different naming convention. Doctors always tell us eating processed food is unhealthy, but there's nothing unhealthy about cutting up your fruits and veggies xD
Exactly. "processed foods" are just anything other than the raw food straight from the source. An uncooked steak is 'processed' insofar as someone sliced it before it got to you. So it's just about getting normal foods that are minimally processed rather than like... Blue Heat Takis.
The paradox of being a deep thinker doing infotainment. He wants to educate people (and make them educate themselves to maximum capacity and eloquence), but in the era of attention economy it's not enough to be interesting with teacher/mentor quality, it also has to be funny to keep the audience, so not a bad idea to mix himself with less gloomy stand-uppers/comedians like Theo Von, Matt Rife, Joe Rogan, am I forgetting some?
@@at752 I've seen more than enough of him to conclude that I don't consider him funny. He is often the opposite. He is very serious and heavy handed. He can bring a funny mood down pretty quickly
What we call processed cheese starts with a German immigrant cheesemonger in Philedelphia in the late 1800s by the name of Kraft. He was trying to can cheese. The oil kept separating out of it in the can. He figured out that if he blended his cheese with citric acid it stabilized it. That's basically what all your processed cheese products are derived from. He derived the idea from the Swiss practice of adding wine dregs to cheese when melting it for dishes like fondue. Citric acid is about as processed as white vinegar. It's all the additional stuff since then that's causing the issues. Applesauce, sausage, pickles and mayonnaise are not inherently bad. It's just that they make great hiding places for stuff that is.
That's why I shop around the perimeter of the market. Stay out of the middle lanes. Once I get my back yard to where I want it, I'll start growing my own veggies.
Ive always said the same thing. Enter the grocery store and turn sharp right to the produce, then all the way back to the meats, then get out. Everything in the middle is cookies, chips, soda, boxed dinners and other garbage.
That's exactly right. We try to eat organic as much as we can. We have made the switch from sugar to natural sugars like honey & maple syrup. And lastly, it's not just about nutrition, there is also going non-toxic to help the environmental factor.
@@hazelbite Honey and maple syrup are not significantly better for you than refined white sugar. It's fine to use them sparingly, but replacing the refined sugars with honey or maple syrup on a calorie for calorie basis, or for an equal sweetness level, is not better for you.
@Meton2526 Beg pardon, but I am not worried about the calories as much as the unhealthy processed coke cane. Raw organic honey and maple syrup are both excellent substitutions for the stuff that's like hero in on the brain. Furthermore, they have many added nutritional values beside not being processed. Maple syrup is 100% of daily required manganese and 80% riboflavin along with other minerals, oligosaccharides, amino acids, organic acids, and phenolic compounds. It is also an antioxidant. Honey has a very similar nutritional value. And, the best part about them and dates, which I also use, are all much lower on the glycemic index than your beloved sugar. The more you know 🌟 🌈
@@XDWX After produce and meats, don’t forget dairy and eggs. We also choose to only eat berries for fruit and only cruciferous vegetables. And definitely no seed oils, only Olive, avocado, or coconut oils.
My mum used to buy strawberries and a small carton of 1 thousand percent cream which she'd blend with a hand-crank mixer and add a little sugar. You gotta work for real food. Didn't have to worry about saving any of the cream for later.
The Nova classification (Portuguese: nova classificação, 'new classification') is a framework for grouping edible substances based on the extent and purpose of food processing applied to them. Researchers at the University of São Paulo, Brazil, proposed the system in 2009. Source: Wikipedia
Very little is "ultra-processed" you can make most of what is in stores, it's just a pain in the ass, and when you make it from scratch you don't use preservatives or methods that make it have a long "shelf life" (likely what he is referring to in being "ultra-processed"), because you don't have to worry about it having a "shelf life".
@@DanielCovington yeah but I can collect rendered fat for use in cooking. I do it all the time with corned beef, makes some killer hamburgers to mix a bit in with the meat.
"you don't use preservatives or methods that have a long "shelf life" Making it not ultra-processed. Do you carry hydrolyzed soy protein in your pantry? Are you adding it to your recipes?
@@TheBigMamaFreakyou cant just simplify a broad range of foods like cookies into being ultra processed or not (from this guys definition of it). Because a cookie can be a million different things with millions of different ingredients in different ratios. Some cookies are ultra processed and some aren’t, you cant give an accurate answer to such a broad question as this since basically no information was given on what the cookie is made of.
Well Doc i have to thank you again because besides my mental health were you helped me to understand what I was dealing with you also helped me to get the right food inside me iam on carnivore diet and man i feel great. So thank you very much you are the best and i love you and your family forever 🙏🙏🙏
The best way I’ve heard ultra processed explained is you can think of it as “pre digested food”. The food is quite literally broken down to its chemical components in a process of mechanical digestion. Then it’s stitched back together in a Frankenstein like manner along with many preservatives and additives, most of which are literally inedible! Your body doesn’t know what to do with this concoction of predigested food and chemical additives. One of the most common effects of eating such foods is can destroy the health bacteria in your gut and it confuses your body, which can cause hormonal problems. Especially not triggering the release of grhelin to make you feel full.
People talk about ultra processed foods and then don’t tell us examples. Cooking, salting, freezing, and mixing all denature proteins. They get denatured in your stomach. Unless you’re eating it fresh out of the ground or slaughter house, you are probably eating processed food.
@@TakGalenthe definition of edible is "fit or suitable to be eaten." So anything that doesn't meet this, even though it can be ingested/eaten can be accurately deemed inedible.
Again, for the uninitiated: anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. It is not a regulated term, like dietician or physician or plumber. It requires no formal education, no exam, there's no governing body. The term is absolutely meaningless.
@@wp3158true... To a degree. You can process food a lot and keep it healthy, and you can turn perfectly edible food into poison with minimum processing, but IN GENERAL, industrial product don't get extra processing because they want to achieve something good, but just to turn the worst quality ingredients into something that looks edible.
Krogers fruits don’t ripen or rot, they just shrivel up. Bananas are okay, but peaches, plums, pears. Yuck! So weird. What are they doing to our food?!
Look into Apeel. It's something they spray on food to keep it from rotting, but they won't reveal what's in it and only say "it's plant based". What people have been able to derive that's in it is dangerous for health.
It's 'their' food and they can do what they want with it. You don't have to buy it. We need to realize that the only 'votes' large companies listen to are the votes consumers make with their wallets. If enough people stay away from the frankenfoods the companies will slowly stop making them... (at least that's the hope).
Cool Whip and whipped cream are completely different. In the same way that margarine and butter are different. You can leave Cool Whip out on a plate on your kitchen table for days, and it wont melt or 'decay'. There are several videos and studies about it. Whipped cream (especially homemade) will become a liquid again fairly quickly (as in less than 30 minutes) if you left a scoop of it out on a plate on your kitchen table.
Do you use the exact same ingredients in similar ratios or just make a similar product to it? If not you are not making cool whip and there is no reason to comment this
Not necessarily, apparently some of the sellers at a farmer's market get the same produce that the supermarket gets and sells them that way. Look at the boxes the produce comes in, then you'd know. A plain cardboard or wooden boxes, probably from a farm they run. If there's different company logos on them though....
We are the baby birds. The food industry is the mother birds. They chemically create their foods, and chew it up, wrap it in some plastic, and sell it to us.
@@chickentoucher55 I didn't see him mention his calorie intake. He must have told you his entire diet in private or something. No way you'd just ASSUME.
@@HelplessTenodo you understand how weight loss works? When you consume less calories than needed to maintain your weight you lose weight. Because they said they lost almost 50 pounds it is obvious they are eating in a calorie deficit as you wont lose 50 pounds of water weight just from eating some beef.
@@geekswithfeet9137 Writing the definitive book on a topic that nobody else is talking about qualifies you as the expert. "Processed food is a continuum that starts with something as simple as slicing an apple. Ultra-processed food is any food which cannot be made in a home kitchen no matter how hard you try." The clip is 60 seconds long, listen.
It's fear mongering for the plebs that have 0 clue how food is made. They are in the realm of conspiracy theories if they think food isn't well regulated.
You have never tasted all the real foods in all the different ways they could possibly be made. Eat however you wish but be honest with the reasoning for why you do the things you do. Plenty of healthy foods can taste good if you know how to cook or just buy good tasting fruits. Its not cause real foods taste bad its because its easier and no risk to make a box of mac and cheese than cooking a steak. Theres always gonna be risks in getting “real foods” such as them being underripe overripe you not eating them fast enough or messing something up. But if your health is actually important to you then you will have to just accept the failures learn from them and try again. If you are happy living the way you do then continue but it doesnt seem like you are based off this comment seeming as if you are giving up trying to eat healthier.
Processed means things like ham or bread. Ultra processed refers to specific extra steps beyond regular processing, but it doesn't always automatically mean unhealthy since even prepared foods are considered ultra processed. Unfortunately Dr.Peterson has allowed a propagandist on his show.
So based on this definition, 15 years ago, freeze-dried apples were ultra-processed because you couldn't make them in your own kitchen if you tried. Now, they sell freeze-dryer units for home, so today, if you freeze-dry apples at home they are NOT ultra-processed 😂
It means ingredients not just a process its made by. You could get apples relatively easy so by this guys definition it wouldn’t have been ultra processed. Its pretty simple logic but also ineffective if you take it at face value since someone could easily buy the ingredients they would consider unhealthy and processed.
"If you can't make it in the kitchen" is a wide gray area. If you have an instant pot, a dehydrator and some other knickknacks and gadgets, you can tap into some production technologies. Like im playing with deli meats... i haven't made mortadella yet, but im not far. Also those flavour enhancers like vegeta that you're convinced is plastic? Easy peasy! Salt, basic aromatic veggies and others that are heavy on the umami
Stabilized Whipped Cream is easy to make, gelatin-free, and perfect to use for a variety of desserts. It holds its' shape well, has a rich, creamy taste, and is a great alternative for Cool Whip in many recipes. I´d wish mr. peterson had let the man speak out his own sentence.... food like products that involves ....
@picardcook7569 no it isnt. He does science and often. Just not in all topics such as philosophy because (big shocker here) philosophy isn't part of science
@@picardcook7569I have seen this man dive more deeper into the Phycological and Neurological science topics than any person in the mainstream public sphere. I mean his whole caricature is that he has a study or thesis on any topic he covers. Not to mention the people he brings on are often people in their scientific fields with published and peer review work. I mean what more could he do? Publish work on every publicly debated topic?
It’s a synthetic substitute for whipped cream. It does not require physical whipping and can maintain its texture without melting over time. If you do whipped cream ar home it doesn’t stay like that for long. I don’t know what exacrly they put in it but it’s definitely not something you have in your kitchen drawer.
Apple juice, wine, beer, and milk are by his definition, ultra processed. Who has access to a Pasteurizer, a clarifying filter, or homogenizer? Many government regulations mandate such processing.
Do you need it spelled out for you to understand? Or are you capable of understanding the intent of the conversation without every minor detail and potential exception to the over arching point being touched on?
@@Schoolship. that isn’t true. The companies that make the food like products would cut corners on safe practices and people would get sick and or die. It’s what happened before food regulation. The point that you highlighted was government control in what you can and cannot consume.
I just eat whatever doesn't upset my stomach... Some food that isn't processed at all hurts my stomach, and some "ultra processed" food makes me feel great.
Such a tricky subject for me to go on one side or the other on. On the one hand food is just chemicals and if someone can recreate those chemicals it would be perfectly fine for you. On the other hand there’s a lot of harmful shit they can put in it
"Food" 🤣 wish wed turn back to food in u.s It feels like a nutrient desert, luckily i have a few farms around for eggs and honey, berries, some meats. Support your locals 🙏🏼💙
Qué humilde es Jordan, no tiene miedo de ser ignorante sobre un tema, preguntar y aprender. La imagen que tienen de él los progres, viéndolo como un ser arrogante y agresivo, es totalmente falsa.
you take your food and you chew it and its like bam now its ultra processed then you poop it out and its ultra super deluxe processed then you fertilize a plant with it and it has achieved super dooper pooper scooper processed levels over 9000
We went from (processed)butter to (more processed) margarine to (ultra processed) “product for bread”, which is total crap. Now we went back to butter.
Butter isn't processed much though and margarine is an entirely different product made from some kind of seed oil that was made during wartime to get soldiers a cheap spread for their bread that wont spoil as quickly
Is oil "ultra"? These folks find excuses to sit and talk and look important. Its a fad to sit around and pretend like your attitude has turned you into an aristocrat.
I really like the explanation of "food you couldn't make in your kitchen if you tried". Very clear.
I don't know, I have a very sophisticated chemistry set at home.
I can't make a side of beef in my kitchen.
@@johnsmithers8913but is it for food? 🤔🤔😂😂
I agree
It’s a horrible explanation. Cookies are considered ultra processed. So is ice cream. Both can be made in your kitchen:
"cool whip."
- Jordan Peterson, 2024
-Stewie Griffin
Coo hhwip.
Can definitely make cool whip in your kitchen
Isn't that just sugar and heavy whipping cream? Lol
A table spoon of soybean oil has the same amount of estrogen(natural female hormone) quivalent to a birth control pill.
As you can see, many men are seeking women hood after the stuff it in everything.
Not a coincidence.
And now they want you to think that ultra processed vegetables that taste like meat is the way to go 🤔
Lol doesn't exist
@@thedisappointedoptimist6916 what doesn’t exist?
Exactly. All that lab food is scary. It tastes like chicken but it's not.... it's meat but it isn't. Scary
@@angelicalee6 Just wait until they figure out the right chemicals to produce the right aroma. And with the insect enthusiasts you will get ultra processed insect burgers soon enough.
@@thedisappointedoptimist6916it does
Should be illegal. We need food reform badly
It's up to the people to hold the government accountable.
Seems we just don't do that anymore. We're all so distracted.
@@kevinreilly6774they don’t care and they want you de*d 💀
@@kevinreilly6774 Its because the government protects these corporations and makes it harder for your local producers of food to compete.
Not saying there should be no regulations but there are many that simply exists to encourage dependence on these few major food corporations.
Buy as local as possible whenever possible stop buying this junk. That is how the average person fights back. Voting is all good but people need to make actionable changes over what they fully have control over.
No it shouldn't, because blanketed entire types of food is retarded. Don't listen to these fools who know nothing, and get rich off misinformed fads.
Do some ultra processed foods have less nutrients? Sure. They can also be easier to digest at the same time. They are also cheaper.
You know what is worse than having ultra processed food? Having no food.
Also the government shouldn't control what people eat as long as it isn't clearly harmful. Which ultra processed food is not. There are better options.
Moderation is key when it comes to doing drugs and diet. Anyone who blankets artifical versus natural or non processed versus ultra processed are DUMB.
People need to stop buying it first. Otherwise no change will happen. 😢 and people will never stop buying cheaper and cheaper foods... so... our bellies is gonna be plastic and rubber at the end of it. Just like the fish in the ocean. 😢
And people criticize meat and potatoes.
The old reliable 😋
Don’t forget the morning beans. That shit will make you gassy but if you can handle that, dudeeeee the GAINS
The problem with meat is that it is made if dead animals
@@Dino-god69you're British aren't you?
Whether or not meat and potatoes are a good meal has nothing at all to do with whether or not processed foods are garbage. Classic fallacy.
“Food like” that pretty well summarizes it
what would be an example of food like products ?
Kraft Mac & Cheese. Totinos Pizzas. Top Ramen. To name but a few
Actually it's an awful summary. Ultra processed food is food. It's in the name. An "ultra processed food".
You make cool whip in minutes with heavy whipping cream and cake mixer. Lol! Cool Quip!
@@VaBeachBeach2971 yeah. As compared to:
Water
Corn syrup
High fructose corn syrup
Hydrogenated vegetable oil (coconut and palm kernel oils)
Skim milk
Light cream
Sodium caseinate (from milk)
Natural and artificial flavor
Xanthan and guar gums
Modified food starch
Lol
Need a collab of Jordan Peterson saying “Cool Whip” and Stewie from Family guy saying it 😂😂😂
ASAP!!
That would be legendary… plz someone make it happen!
Coohwip!
@@Mako-uw1cmI made a short one check out the link below 😂
R-Roadhouse.
If bugs won't eat it you shouldn't eat it. Margarine.
So true, so gross.
When I learned how they make it and how they make it look palatable, I lost interest! Returned to the good old butter, such a joy!
So you eat shit and rotten animals too??
You're really extrapolating bug biology to humans?
Bugs eat dog poop, plants, and other insects. I think I’ll make my own dietary plan
Years ago my father told me "never eat anything you couldn't make at home" it has served me well.
Never eat something that isn't dead. If it wasn't alive, don't eat it.
@@PeterJones-fx2xd to be fair you can make a lot of ultra processed food at home
@@devilsolution9781never eat salt? Never eat ice? Never eat cheese or milk or yoghurt ? Never eat honey?
@@Tree1715 Yeh you got it kid, honey is pollen which is life, your meat has all the minerals so you dont need salt. Yogurt and cheese are made from protein which HAS to be made by life.
@@Tree1715 Ice isnt a bad one but theres no neccesity. Can you think of ANYTHING we need that doesnt come from life? Now go check your ingredients list and see what is and isnt from life. Ez. Once you know, you know.
"It's Cool Hwip, Dr. Peterson."
~ Stewie Griffith
Edit - ok it's Griffin, not Griffith. Got it👍
Why are you putting such an emphasis on the h?
@@ryantogo8359Hweat Thins.
😂😂
Say "whip"
@@ryantogo8359somebody hasn’t seen family guy
Finally, the description for ultra-processed food I’ve been waiting for
Just the question of what is the difference between processed and ultra processed shows how thoroughly Dr. Peterson thinks about everything. Thank you sir, you have taught me so very much.
You must be lobotomized if you think asking the difference between two terms is being “thorough”
@@flemming1535 I'm sure your line of questioning would be far more intelligent.
I accidentally ate my cat's food last night.
Don't ask meow.
I was forced to swallow purple food color.
I feel violated.
😂
I’ve seen your dad jokes on more than one video. Keep it up. You’re putting smiles on peoples faces.
had a neighbor who's dog died and he had a stack of canned dog food. He tried one and ended up eating the whole stack over time.
@@gabrielsierra6890 you do know that the cat food story was a joke, right?
This dog food story sadly sounds real…
Get out! 🤣♥️
FYI, during COVID Bill Gate became the biggest farmland owner in the USA
Really? I thought China owned the most
(Thats only slightly sarcastic)
And he did it to limit food production. He's part of the global elite faction that believes we need to drastically reduce the global population. Literally a super villain.
@@Iampatrix in a way I believe we do. Sooner or later over population will kill us, either from each other or nature will do it.
@@Iampatrix source?
@@flemming1535 look up his comments about population control, he's openly said it in interviews. He makes it sound nice by talking about climate change and innovating food production while reducing grazing land and phasing out meats in our diets. Ultimately it boils down to population control when you add it all up.
I love how you are spot on with your questions
Like Kraft singles.
“Cheese Product”.
They actually claim it’s cheese.
Then there is Velveeta, which is clearly Bondo in block form, without the hardener applied.
They don't actually claim it's cheese. it's called a processed cheese product.
And isn't that kind of "cheese" not cheese because of the milk content and an emulsifier to make it melty and creamier? Like if you're making Alfredo with just butter and Parmesan for a big group that will take a while to serve, you need an emulsifier so it doesn't turn into a clumped up brick of pasta.
@@ausholeI'm italian, so I've never cooked nor tasted "Alfredo" in my life. But I've cooked plenty of big portions of pasta with many different cheese, and regularly cook pasta for friends and family. I never used any kind of "emulsifier" nor ultra-processed industrial product. The way you avoid having a giant blob of pasta is by using proper pasta and cooking it the right amount, and then serving it quickly in not gigantic portions. A small quantity of cooking water (like ½ spoon per portion) will help in certain situations.
@@12gark any chesse is ultra processed so no you have used ultra processed products lol.
@@jkorok6357 first off, not all cheese is ultra-processed, and even the one that is ultra processed (blue cheese for example) is not ultra processed to turn trash into food-like stuff, but to achieve a particular taste. That's the issue: processing the food is not a problem, humanity does it since the beginning of civilisation.
Using 53 chemical additives to turn the worst quality ingredients into something that seems edible and not always is but can be produced in mass for very cheap it's another thing entirely.
Also, I specified "industrial" for a reason.
Wish they'd come up with a different naming convention. Doctors always tell us eating processed food is unhealthy, but there's nothing unhealthy about cutting up your fruits and veggies xD
I processed my burger paddy, when I chewed it up, then me belly, processed it a little further ….
Exactly. "processed foods" are just anything other than the raw food straight from the source. An uncooked steak is 'processed' insofar as someone sliced it before it got to you.
So it's just about getting normal foods that are minimally processed rather than like... Blue Heat Takis.
Cool-whip, Velveeta, I can't believe it's NOT Butter.... So many good tasting chemical based products.
Everything is chemicals
Hahhaha... the genius of the professor is that when he finds something funny, he turns it into something hilarious
" the genius of the professor " incredible
The paradox of being a deep thinker doing infotainment. He wants to educate people (and make them educate themselves to maximum capacity and eloquence), but in the era of attention economy it's not enough to be interesting with teacher/mentor quality, it also has to be funny to keep the audience, so not a bad idea to mix himself with less gloomy stand-uppers/comedians like Theo Von, Matt Rife, Joe Rogan, am I forgetting some?
Wait.. when is Peterson funny?
@@RinZ3993 you should see his lectures. he can crack a joke once in a while.
@@at752 I've seen more than enough of him to conclude that I don't consider him funny. He is often the opposite. He is very serious and heavy handed. He can bring a funny mood down pretty quickly
What did the hot dog say when his friend passed him in the race?
Wow, I relish the fact that you’ve mustard the strength to ketchup to me.
Lol! You're so darn cute!
Nice
😂
Good one dad
His friend then asked "mayo move over so I can pass"
"Squeezy Cheeze". "If it's almost cheese but not quite, it's Squeezy Cheeze! - Dot Warner, Animaniacs
What we call processed cheese starts with a German immigrant cheesemonger in Philedelphia in the late 1800s by the name of Kraft.
He was trying to can cheese. The oil kept separating out of it in the can. He figured out that if he blended his cheese with citric acid it stabilized it. That's basically what all your processed cheese products are derived from.
He derived the idea from the Swiss practice of adding wine dregs to cheese when melting it for dishes like fondue.
Citric acid is about as processed as white vinegar.
It's all the additional stuff since then that's causing the issues.
Applesauce, sausage, pickles and mayonnaise are not inherently bad. It's just that they make great hiding places for stuff that is.
I feel like it’s rare for a question to be asked and answered so clearly
That's why I shop around the perimeter of the market. Stay out of the middle lanes. Once I get my back yard to where I want it, I'll start growing my own veggies.
Ive always said the same thing. Enter the grocery store and turn sharp right to the produce, then all the way back to the meats, then get out. Everything in the middle is cookies, chips, soda, boxed dinners and other garbage.
That's exactly right. We try to eat organic as much as we can. We have made the switch from sugar to natural sugars like honey & maple syrup. And lastly, it's not just about nutrition, there is also going non-toxic to help the environmental factor.
@@hazelbite Honey and maple syrup are not significantly better for you than refined white sugar. It's fine to use them sparingly, but replacing the refined sugars with honey or maple syrup on a calorie for calorie basis, or for an equal sweetness level, is not better for you.
@Meton2526 Beg pardon, but I am not worried about the calories as much as the unhealthy processed coke cane. Raw organic honey and maple syrup are both excellent substitutions for the stuff that's like hero in on the brain. Furthermore, they have many added nutritional values beside not being processed. Maple syrup is 100% of daily required manganese and 80% riboflavin along with other minerals, oligosaccharides, amino acids, organic acids, and phenolic compounds. It is also an antioxidant. Honey has a very similar nutritional value. And, the best part about them and dates, which I also use, are all much lower on the glycemic index than your beloved sugar. The more you know 🌟 🌈
@@XDWX After produce and meats, don’t forget dairy and eggs. We also choose to only eat berries for fruit and only cruciferous vegetables. And definitely no seed oils, only Olive, avocado, or coconut oils.
Those are poisons, disguised as food.
My mum used to buy strawberries and a small carton of 1 thousand percent cream which she'd blend with a hand-crank mixer and add a little sugar. You gotta work for real food. Didn't have to worry about saving any of the cream for later.
By definition that's ultra processed
A thousand percent?
How is that “real food”? Literal goyslop
That, is very ultra processed food mate.
I hope one day there will be an interview with Dr.Lustig
He got a lot of idea on this topic
If you cannot buy the individual _ingredients_ on the lable in the same grocery store, DO NOT buy the product. It's that easy.
That’s actually a really good way of thinking about it! Unfortunately that’s near everything nowadays.
Instruction taken! Thanks
I just wish I could find ice cream that didn’t have five types of gum in it😂😢
That’s impossible
There's a few exceptions I'd say, like pectin is useful for making jam, but good luck finding it in a small grocery store.
In Latin America...Nova... no va... won't go.. doesn't work lmao
The Nova classification (Portuguese: nova classificação, 'new classification') is a framework for grouping edible substances based on the extent and purpose of food processing applied to them. Researchers at the University of São Paulo, Brazil, proposed the system in 2009.
Source: Wikipedia
Very little is "ultra-processed" you can make most of what is in stores, it's just a pain in the ass, and when you make it from scratch you don't use preservatives or methods that make it have a long "shelf life" (likely what he is referring to in being "ultra-processed"), because you don't have to worry about it having a "shelf life".
Olive oil and lard are processed.
Corn oil and soybean oil are ultra-processed.
Tofu is processed. Beyond-burger is ultra-processed.
@@DanielCovington yeah but I can collect rendered fat for use in cooking. I do it all the time with corned beef, makes some killer hamburgers to mix a bit in with the meat.
"you don't use preservatives or methods that have a long "shelf life"
Making it not ultra-processed. Do you carry hydrolyzed soy protein in your pantry? Are you adding it to your recipes?
@@icestationzebraassociates2460lol, would you not consider a cookie ultra processed?
@@TheBigMamaFreakyou cant just simplify a broad range of foods like cookies into being ultra processed or not (from this guys definition of it). Because a cookie can be a million different things with millions of different ingredients in different ratios. Some cookies are ultra processed and some aren’t, you cant give an accurate answer to such a broad question as this since basically no information was given on what the cookie is made of.
The only healthy aisle outside the perimeter of the supermarket is the bean rice and lentil aisle.
Seemingly informative but devoid of context, specific details, or actionable information. Gotta love shorts.
That is why they put a shortcut to the full episode in the description. It is a trailer.
Well Doc i have to thank you again because besides my mental health were you helped me to understand what I was dealing with you also helped me to get the right food inside me iam on carnivore diet and man i feel great. So thank you very much you are the best and i love you and your family forever 🙏🙏🙏
The best way I’ve heard ultra processed explained is you can think of it as “pre digested food”. The food is quite literally broken down to its chemical components in a process of mechanical digestion. Then it’s stitched back together in a Frankenstein like manner along with many preservatives and additives, most of which are literally inedible!
Your body doesn’t know what to do with this concoction of predigested food and chemical additives. One of the most common effects of eating such foods is can destroy the health bacteria in your gut and it confuses your body, which can cause hormonal problems. Especially not triggering the release of grhelin to make you feel full.
I'd love to read about this, do you have any studies about this I can look at about this?
People talk about ultra processed foods and then don’t tell us examples. Cooking, salting, freezing, and mixing all denature proteins. They get denatured in your stomach. Unless you’re eating it fresh out of the ground or slaughter house, you are probably eating processed food.
Yes they’re edible. That’s the problem.
Love Jordan’s suit jacket, “CLEAN YOUR ROOM” gotta love it.
I love that you can eat it even tho they are not edible
If you can eat it, it's edible
If you can drink it, it's potable
Neither of these means you can digest it.
You can eat anything you want, doesn't make it edible. Coolant isn't edible, but I really wish you'd give it a try sometime just to prove me wrong.
@@TakGalenthe definition of edible is "fit or suitable to be eaten." So anything that doesn't meet this, even though it can be ingested/eaten can be accurately deemed inedible.
@@christopherk396 From the Cambridge Dictionary
edible
noun [ C ]
US/ˈed.ə.bəl/ UK/ˈed.ə.bəl/
something you can eat; a food
@@TakGalenyou can obviously digest the food if you’re gaining calories from it.
I try to use the single ingredient foods found on the outer walls of the grocery store. Avoid the isles, that's were the carcinogens are.
Protein powder is an ultra processed food. Most supplements are as well. Not all ultra processed foods are created equal.
For decades, nutritionists told us to eat whole foods, the least processed...for our health...now, they flip.
No they haven't, and processed doesn't equal bad.
@@wp3158food-company-ambassador?
Again, for the uninitiated: anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. It is not a regulated term, like dietician or physician or plumber. It requires no formal education, no exam, there's no governing body. The term is absolutely meaningless.
What nutritionist is telling you to buy cool whip?
@@wp3158true... To a degree. You can process food a lot and keep it healthy, and you can turn perfectly edible food into poison with minimum processing, but IN GENERAL, industrial product don't get extra processing because they want to achieve something good, but just to turn the worst quality ingredients into something that looks edible.
Krogers fruits don’t ripen or rot, they just shrivel up. Bananas are okay, but peaches, plums, pears. Yuck! So weird. What are they doing to our food?!
You're trying WAY too hard to find things to demonize. No one is getting metabolic diseases from eating the wrong whole produce.
Look into Apeel. It's something they spray on food to keep it from rotting, but they won't reveal what's in it and only say "it's plant based". What people have been able to derive that's in it is dangerous for health.
Spraying it so the millions of bugs don’t get it. Modifying it to be bigger and sweeter because you wouldn’t buy it if it wasn’t
It’s sad because pears are so good 🥲
It's 'their' food and they can do what they want with it. You don't have to buy it. We need to realize that the only 'votes' large companies listen to are the votes consumers make with their wallets. If enough people stay away from the frankenfoods the companies will slowly stop making them... (at least that's the hope).
I love how he says Cool Whip but we make Whipped Cream every week with no issue.
Cool Whip and whipped cream are completely different. In the same way that margarine and butter are different. You can leave Cool Whip out on a plate on your kitchen table for days, and it wont melt or 'decay'. There are several videos and studies about it. Whipped cream (especially homemade) will become a liquid again fairly quickly (as in less than 30 minutes) if you left a scoop of it out on a plate on your kitchen table.
Do you use the exact same ingredients in similar ratios or just make a similar product to it? If not you are not making cool whip and there is no reason to comment this
This is the most insanely succinct explanation of anything I've ever seen on any subject on RUclips.
It's better to buy vegetables from a farmers market than a supermarket.
What's the evidence for that assertion?
@@Meton2526 Ancestral blood memory.
@@Nipah.Auauau ..... what?
But more expensive and they don't always take ebt
Not necessarily, apparently some of the sellers at a farmer's market get the same produce that the supermarket gets and sells them that way. Look at the boxes the produce comes in, then you'd know. A plain cardboard or wooden boxes, probably from a farm they run. If there's different company logos on them though....
"fantastic question" - continues to not give a definition, then Peterson says "they're like food except they're not edible"... Complete bullshit
Right? I don't get it, nothing was really said here
Didn't he say "anything you can't make at home?" or nah?
@@kingdodgearcane that's not good enough
We are the baby birds. The food industry is the mother birds. They chemically create their foods, and chew it up, wrap it in some plastic, and sell it to us.
Overfed, undernourished, and addicted to food like substitutes.
Gave it all up 4 months ago. I'm straight carnivore now. Lost 45lbs. Almost no more inflammation. I feel amazing.
Because your eating under your maintenance calories, the protein is keeping you satiated
@@chickentoucher55 I didn't see him mention his calorie intake. He must have told you his entire diet in private or something. No way you'd just ASSUME.
@HelplessTeno I'm eating around 3lbs of beef every day. About 3,200 - 3,500 calories.
I've been a carnivore for 20 months. I lost 48 lbs and all the pain and inflammation in my body in the first 6 months.
@@HelplessTenodo you understand how weight loss works? When you consume less calories than needed to maintain your weight you lose weight. Because they said they lost almost 50 pounds it is obvious they are eating in a calorie deficit as you wont lose 50 pounds of water weight just from eating some beef.
“Processed” is a term used by people that are too dumb to know what the processes are and feel entitled enough to claim expertise.
This guy is an expert on food and just explained the difference to you, cornball.
I’m sorry you’re not capable of understanding he actually didn’t, the dudes only expertise is a claimed one. He’s an author.
@@geekswithfeet9137 Writing the definitive book on a topic that nobody else is talking about qualifies you as the expert.
"Processed food is a continuum that starts with something as simple as slicing an apple. Ultra-processed food is any food which cannot be made in a home kitchen no matter how hard you try."
The clip is 60 seconds long, listen.
@@TommyTombstone bro…. You’re IQ is so high it’s almost in the double digits
@@geekswithfeet9137 *your
This is such a bullshit answer.
That doesn't mean there isn't such a thing as ultra processing, but this answer sucks.
I moved to Thailand. The street food is almost all from scratch and very healthy. I've lost wait and feel better than ever.
My dude. I make cool whip regularly. Sugar in blender = confectioners sugar
Confectioners sugar + whipping cream + vanilla extract = cool whip
It's fear mongering for the plebs that have 0 clue how food is made. They are in the realm of conspiracy theories if they think food isn't well regulated.
Read the labels of what is sold in the store by the same name.
You're making flavored whip cream. That's not cool whip lol
that is not cool whip, thats whipped cream. Cool whip is a vegetable oil based product
It's too bad all the real food tastes so bad. Guess I'll die happy eating ultra processed food.
This is the saddest thing I've heard a human being say all month.
You have never tasted all the real foods in all the different ways they could possibly be made. Eat however you wish but be honest with the reasoning for why you do the things you do. Plenty of healthy foods can taste good if you know how to cook or just buy good tasting fruits. Its not cause real foods taste bad its because its easier and no risk to make a box of mac and cheese than cooking a steak. Theres always gonna be risks in getting “real foods” such as them being underripe overripe you not eating them fast enough or messing something up. But if your health is actually important to you then you will have to just accept the failures learn from them and try again. If you are happy living the way you do then continue but it doesnt seem like you are based off this comment seeming as if you are giving up trying to eat healthier.
We need to be able to define it better than that if we are gonna be using the term everywhere…
So, its a processed food with a scary new name attached.
So ultra processed is just inventing a new phrase for what everyone else more succinctly calls processed
no
Ummm no. Did you not just watch the distinction or are you stupid?
Processed means things like ham or bread.
Ultra processed refers to specific extra steps beyond regular processing, but it doesn't always automatically mean unhealthy since even prepared foods are considered ultra processed. Unfortunately Dr.Peterson has allowed a propagandist on his show.
So based on this definition, 15 years ago, freeze-dried apples were ultra-processed because you couldn't make them in your own kitchen if you tried. Now, they sell freeze-dryer units for home, so today, if you freeze-dry apples at home they are NOT ultra-processed 😂
It means ingredients not just a process its made by. You could get apples relatively easy so by this guys definition it wouldn’t have been ultra processed. Its pretty simple logic but also ineffective if you take it at face value since someone could easily buy the ingredients they would consider unhealthy and processed.
"If you can't make it in the kitchen" is a wide gray area. If you have an instant pot, a dehydrator and some other knickknacks and gadgets, you can tap into some production technologies. Like im playing with deli meats... i haven't made mortadella yet, but im not far. Also those flavour enhancers like vegeta that you're convinced is plastic? Easy peasy! Salt, basic aromatic veggies and others that are heavy on the umami
So, don’t buy them. Stick to meat, dairy, vegetables & fruit & put ur own meals together.
Stabilized Whipped Cream is easy to make, gelatin-free, and perfect to use for a variety of desserts. It holds its' shape well, has a rich, creamy taste, and is a great alternative for Cool Whip in many recipes.
I´d wish mr. peterson had let the man speak out his own sentence.... food like products that involves ....
The best homemade stabilized whipped cream has gelatin in it
They didn't address the danger of ultra processed food. Science please, not just opinions.
science from peterson? that's asking a bit much
@picardcook7569 no it isnt. He does science and often. Just not in all topics such as philosophy because (big shocker here) philosophy isn't part of science
@@troyhenry6111 uh, no. you literally could not be more wrong
@@picardcook7569 prove it
@@picardcook7569I have seen this man dive more deeper into the Phycological and Neurological science topics than any person in the mainstream public sphere. I mean his whole caricature is that he has a study or thesis on any topic he covers. Not to mention the people he brings on are often people in their scientific fields with published and peer review work. I mean what more could he do? Publish work on every publicly debated topic?
My kids have never eaten Cool Whip. I try not to feed them things bugs won’t eat.
Why don't you feed them only things that bugs will eat. Seems like the healthiest alternative.
You should put them on the dung beetle diet
Bro has never heard of a food processor...
You can make cool whip at home
You can make something similar to it but not exactly. The chemicals they pit directly into it aren't readily available to the everyday consumer
@@tp.blizzard sodium caseinate?
@@apertureonline9566dur the durrrr?
It’s a synthetic substitute for whipped cream. It does not require physical whipping and can maintain its texture without melting over time. If you do whipped cream ar home it doesn’t stay like that for long. I don’t know what exacrly they put in it but it’s definitely not something you have in your kitchen drawer.
@LeDelan13 it's sodium caseinate, that was my point. I mean you can easily buy it, casein is almost exactly the same.
Apple juice, wine, beer, and milk are by his definition, ultra processed. Who has access to a Pasteurizer, a clarifying filter, or homogenizer? Many government regulations mandate such processing.
Do you need it spelled out for you to understand? Or are you capable of understanding the intent of the conversation without every minor detail and potential exception to the over arching point being touched on?
I agree. Governments should stay out of economies. Food would be much more nutritious.
@@Schoolship. But also could be dangerous.
@@libtardslayer3048 give me liberty, or give me death.
@@Schoolship. that isn’t true. The companies that make the food like products would cut corners on safe practices and people would get sick and or die. It’s what happened before food regulation. The point that you highlighted was government control in what you can and cannot consume.
Say "Cool Whip"
I just eat whatever doesn't upset my stomach... Some food that isn't processed at all hurts my stomach, and some "ultra processed" food makes me feel great.
Great explanation
This is just fueling this weird belief that these things aren't food.
This is the same as being a flat earther
Someone tell him that cool whip is completely doable with a whisk.
The aerosol can and the name reddi whip made me think it was the worse option but later discovered cool whip was the real imposter.
that sh!t is brilliant
It’s the same difference between super saiyan blue and ultra instinct
I needed to cut costs and started cooking from the base.
Tastes great, if you stay simple does not take long...
Feel great!
The right side of this dude is processed, and the left side is ultra-processed.
Bro never explained what ultra processed was
Such a tricky subject for me to go on one side or the other on. On the one hand food is just chemicals and if someone can recreate those chemicals it would be perfectly fine for you. On the other hand there’s a lot of harmful shit they can put in it
I try...I really try, and most times I manage to avoid the dreaded "ultra processed" crap.
The dialogue here is so refreshing. Just two dudes chatting it up.
Healthy diet advice. If it doesn't come out of the ground, the tree, or the animal like that, you shouldn't eat it.
"Food" 🤣 wish wed turn back to food in u.s
It feels like a nutrient desert, luckily i have a few farms around for eggs and honey, berries, some meats.
Support your locals 🙏🏼💙
"What's the difference?"
"Good question. I made that shit up."
Lad did good to pull that genuine laugh from JBP.
Qué humilde es Jordan, no tiene miedo de ser ignorante sobre un tema, preguntar y aprender. La imagen que tienen de él los progres, viéndolo como un ser arrogante y agresivo, es totalmente falsa.
Food smugness! Lol fn luv it. Nothin says upperclass like the food snobs! Looking forward to the crazy extremes this will go to.
Cool Whip is edible! Says so right on the future cereal bowl... "edible oil procuct"
It's basically foods where they have added something, which 9/10 is something that harms your body.
you take your food and you chew it and its like bam now its ultra processed then you poop it out and its ultra super deluxe processed then you fertilize a plant with it and it has achieved super dooper pooper scooper processed levels over 9000
Pretty sure you can make ultra “processed foods” in your kitchen including cool whip now days
He should have elaborate on NOVA/CIGA classification and the food matrix in order to explain "processed food"
I can make cool whip at home. All the ingredients are quite easy to get ahold of. Its just the measurments of them thats tricky.
It was a fantastic question and answered BEAUTIFULLY
We went from (processed)butter to (more processed) margarine to (ultra processed) “product for bread”, which is total crap. Now we went back to butter.
Butter isn't processed much though and margarine is an entirely different product made from some kind of seed oil that was made during wartime to get soldiers a cheap spread for their bread that wont spoil as quickly
Is oil "ultra"? These folks find excuses to sit and talk and look important. Its a fad to sit around and pretend like your attitude has turned you into an aristocrat.
So to be clear i can make something close to cool whip in my kitchen. Heavy cream, sugar, and a blenderbottle.
Peterson wearing a pinstripe suit that reads, "Clean your room"
I don't eat that anymore, lost weight, got muscled, sharper
When JP said cool whip I went "Sh*t, what is it even?"
Explaining the definition of a term and how it was used/who coined it etc, is very important. Thank you