OSR Social Encounter Mechanics

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oh wow, actual social rules. It's weird to me that a lot of OSR guys hate the idea of mechanically resolving social interactions.

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I think that hatred comes out of 3e-style "social skills" that ended up being either useless or a superpower, or mechanically a complete bypass from having to RP, or even having to say what or how you do something.
In this system, how the PC intends to approach the situation, and (if the GM wants) what he says and how he says it, can factor into it, and you can't have someone get super good at social interactions just by spending skill points.

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I think for a historic game pre made characters and a robust social mechanic are basically necessary. A historic setting is great but players need a framework for interacting with that setting. Otherwise, unless they have done copious research themselves, they will be lost when it comes to how to think and act.

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With my books, I try to include important guidance for the GM as to how the culture/society and its norms are supposed to work.

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​@@RPGPunditabsolutely correct. Instead of history or war or whatever roll of the dice magically gives you the answer style of play, old school creatively think how you were going to handle a situation and convince the DM it was viable. Actual roleplay situations out. The easiness of using meta information given to you and the result of a die roll is one of the things I do not like about 5e.

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It's because we prefer to actually have to rollplay in a role-playing game rather than rolling a dice and having the dungeon master give us metadata.

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I think I like this. I am the type of player/referee that does not like the "play-acting" style as it wastes a lot of game time in acting out conversations. This would be good tools for summarizing otherwise lengthy and often awkward dialogs.

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I've had to request 4 new proofs for my products over the last few months for various production issues, usually involving the binding. I modify my persuasion tests (when I use them) based on the PC approach towards the NPC and how reasonable their argument is. Good vid.

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[@jokertim777]

I've relied on a system for social encounters that puts the person the PC is talking to on a number scale (0-5). The scale represents how much the person likes or trusts the PC (0 being a friend, and 5 being an enemy). Most strangers would start at a 3, unless there is some fame involved for the PC. A successful role play encounter (persuasion, deception, intimidation, performance) can only move a person ONE step closer to the PC, so it would take you five successes to turn an enemy into a friend. How easy it is to succeed is modified by the PC's plan, skill, and abilities vs. the person. It works for subtle (not illegal) interactions.
Bribery, death threats, etc. is another kettle of fish. And, illegal interactions even when successful will often come with some form of blowback for the PC (or entire party) down the road.

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+1 for Pundit making his first Powered by the Apocalypse supplement. lol.... (note that mechanic is literally the same as the reaction roll and probably where Vincent Baker got it from)

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That might be the case, but this is definitely not the same. This is doing reaction mechanics for what they were intended. And with no storygaming.

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Una pregunta, en el tema de juegos mediavalmente auténticos, ¿conoces el juego español Aquelarre? Usa el sistema BRP d100, en cuanto a la autenticidad medieval ibérica es franca, terrible y jodidamente exquisito.
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Si, claro que conozco Aquelarre. En mi video acerca de Dark Albion comento que Aquelarre fue una de mis mas grandes influencias.

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@@RPGPundit Interesante, buscaré el vídeo sobre Dark Albion, no conozco mucho sobre ese grupo de productos y libros.
Aquelarre es un gran almanaque de malevolencia medieval ibérica, aunque es un tanto complejo de jugar, sobretodo para nuevos jugadores.
Saludos.

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Dark Albion (setting) y Lion & Dragon (sistema) estan basados en verdadera historia medieval, similar a Aquelarre, o sea, el mundo medieval como lo entendian la gente del medioevo, con monstruos y magia, pero los monstruos y la magia son basados en verdaderas fuentes medievales. Lo mismo Sword & Caravan, que es otro libro de setting pero basado en el medioriente y la ruta de seda entre la 3a crusada y las invasiones mongoles. Todo es OSR, por lo tanto basado en D&D en ves de BRP. Pero sin duda Aquelarre era uno de los productos que me convencio que esto era posible.

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@@RPGPundit Dark Albion y L&D me interesan mucho, sin duda los agregaré a mi colección, sobre todo con tremenda calidad de edición. La mitología y el folklore británico (así como las fuentes gaélicas, escocesas e irlandesa) son muy ricas y peculiares. Ya ambicioné una campaña en la Isla del Hombre (Isle of Man). Sólo un detalle, entiendo tu razonamiento para no utilizar el nombre propio de la Iglesia Católica, en mi caso consideraría que, en términos de autenticidad medieval, sería una oportunidad perdida no incluirla tal cual (tal cual se entendía y veía a la Iglesia en el imaginario colectivo, quiero decir: con mitos y mística sobrenatural, así como con poderío político y militar) pero como tú dices, esos detalles lo puede incluir cada director de juego en su mesa.

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[@Richforce1]

A smart person would only hire guards like Kinro from Dr. Stone, guards whose primary motivation is "the rules are the rules" that charisma and money is virtually ineffective against. The only chance the players would have is to convince them that their employer is not following the rules of society or whatever they draw their morality from which would likely require proof either actual or convincedly fabricated.

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Keep in mind that a lot of "guards" serving a lord in the medieval world would essentially be amateurs, and basically conscripts.

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Do you have a mass combat system in any of your games, @rpgpundit if so can you do a walk thru like this

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Dark Albion, and the Medieval Authentic Companion 1 both have mass combat rules; they are basically the same rules except that Albion has a few differences to match the specifics of the setting. The rules are fairly abstract (don't expect a miniature wargame), and are tied to the domain rules.

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@@RPGPundit Thank you. It would be great for an overview on your channel

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Well, I might do that sometime, though I'm actually working on a different Domain system for my next big Medieval Authentic book, Baptism of Fire, which will also serve as a kind of L&D revised/complete edition.

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@@RPGPundit very cool, hope it comes together. Seems there is atleast interest in domain play rising again