My husband asked to be received into the Catholic Church after going to the Traditional Latin Mass from January last year. He was received in September 2023 and died suddenly in June this year. Thanks be to God that He spoke to his heart in time.
Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him. May his soul and all the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace.
I’m being converted to Catholicism Latin mass style in six days time on Saturday 14th September 2024. . I went from atheism to the best way of living that I’ve ever had. If I wanted an easy religion, I wouldn’t have chosen this but it chose me. Nothing will put me off. I’m learning so much .I see Jesus.
Robert, I have my parents’ old missal - a St Andrew’s missal with annotations by Gaspar LeFebvre… and the simply beautiful illustrations by Renee deCramer, which help envision the faith in terms of the symbols, angels, saints and Of course Jesus our Lord, and His Blessed Mother. This dear old book, with its crinkly India paper has withstood some 70 years, including five boisterous children thumbing through the pages! How delighted my old Dad would be, to know I take this same missal to ICKSP each Sunday!
Me to! I have my mother's traditional old missal. The art is indeed gorgeous. I am seventy one. I do remembermy early years and being schooled within the Traditional Mass. What left a deep impression on me was the awe and holiness and the incense. The changes occured when i was a youn teen. Eventually I left the Church for Protestanism for over 30 years. I remember my first Mass in the 1990's. My protestant church dressed up for Sundays. I remember my first prayer was at that Mass, " Jesus, if this is not You - Body, Bloos, Soul and Divinity I cannot do this. They are all dressed liked refuggees!". It took time but eventually returned th the Catholic Faith. It is my greatest Gift frm God.
I have a German Missal a Schott with lovely commentaries both for the readings and the Gospel for Sunday's and Feast days. It is lovely! It is Second Vat Council so could easily still be used. Yet I somehow stopped using it. Has its use been discouraged just as the Eucharist itself - you are right about the poor catechises, somehow it has been discouraged😓😡
The St Kevin’s (Harrington Road , Dublin ) high Latin mass at 10:30 is a beautiful sung mass with wonderful choirs … well worth attending.. the reading and gospel are sung in Latin and read in English at the homily… it’s a powerful experience, so reverent… lovely to see so many young families and people of all ages in attendance… it’s an oratory and follows the 1962 missal .. it’s not sspx… one can buy a missal from the rectory , a lot of attendees have the missal … just great to see … the church provides a basic booklet for those with no missal to follow the mass , that is returned at the end of the mass … 🙏
18:04 I went to St Kevin's for my first ever latin mass. I was struck by the people over to the right waiting for confession and all the women in veils looking like Saints. The Choir was great and the priest went to the Pulpit for the sermon. So moving
I love the TLM. I still remember as a small child in the early 60s we had mass in Latin in Goa and it was a different experience. It was like to be in heaven. We must preserve Latin n we still say the litany of Mother Mary and a number of hymns in Latin. The younger generation here like the mass n litany in the vernacular language because they have not seen a TLM.
I started the TLM this year and bought a book called 'Know Your Mass'. It is like comic book form but is a great explainer on what the Mass actually is and takes you through all the stages. I couldn't recommend it enough to a beginner.
The TLM awoke something in me that helped bring me back to my faith. Like others I was awestruck by the reverence & the beauty. I can rarely go because of where I live/work. BUT, I realize the danger of missing the importance of what Robert here keeps emphasizing - the encounter with Christ! I am reminded of 'where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, I am there among them'. I consider myself fortunate to be able to regularly attend the Novus Ordo. Also, I often think of that amazing book, 'He Leadeth Me' by Fr. Walter Ciszek: whilst he was a prisoner of WW II in the Siberian labor camps, he and the other prisoners would try to hold mass or confession, or a simple blessing in secrecy from the prison guards, risking their lives to do so, perhaps a tree stump in the woods serving as an altar. Whether TLM,or Novus Ordo, or other liturgy, history shows us that right now our ability and freedom to worship is probably better today than many periods in the past.
Laudetur Jesus Christus! Thank you for this great video! St. Teresa of Avila famously said that she would have given her life for even one of the least of the rubrics in the Roman MissaI learned how to pray from the Missal. 25 years ago I bought an old Roman Missal. It was the beginning of a true education in the Catholic Faith! Little did I know. It also taught me how to pray, how one OUGHT to pray, how it behooves us to speak with God! It furnishes the most appropriate language (attitude), a language so sober, so high and noble that it enobles the person inside and out (I read only the part in English. Which is so beautiful!). And the language is perfectly instructive: a soul comes to realize exactly who and what he is before the Creator. This finally knowing the correct relationship with the Lord totally annihilated every defect in my faith. There was no Latin Mass available; the daily reading of the Mass from beginning to end is quite sufficient for taking any Catholic of good will to a far higher plane in their spiritual life. Which seems to me due in large part to the immediate sense of connection you feel with the whole Church, in Heaven, in Purgatory and all across the centuries going right back even to Adam and Eve. I also found all my relatives! For the first time in my life I felt a most remarkable sense of communion with all of them. It was really uncanny. Finally, and I could say tons more, one of the things that most struck me and which I noticed only after about 3 years of reading the Missal daily was this: in an inexplicable fashion, the Missal had thoroughly catechised me. I found myself deeply in love with Dogmas, Sacraments, and Sacred Scriptue as if I had been intellectually immersed in those things for years. How did the Missal do THAT? All I can say is this: the old Roman Missal is truly a gushing fount of living water and I can never get enough of it!
Here, in America, our TLM has the little red books provided for those who want to follow along- I prefer to follow the beauty of the Mass, without reading.
Of course, following the Mass with a book is a relatively recent development. The Vetus Ordo was developed when very few of the Faithful could read. Which made every gesture and motion by the priest a living, well orchestrated form of prayer and worship.
Yes Robert, I used a Missal prior to the Novus Ordo. I still use a Missal when I attend the TLM - 1962. As a deacon, I do use the Magnificat Missal when assisting at the Novus Ordo.
Our church celebrates the 55 Easter mass. It’s absolutely beautiful. During Low Mass some people say the responses with the alter boys. We have red missals available for all that need one.
This topic was brought up to me after Mass today. I tend to want to believe like you. The Latin Mass is not offered close to where I live, and we do have a wonderful Mass here in town. Jesus will triumph, I have no doubt. God's will be done. Do His Will. Seek truth, know peace.
I lived in Singapore from 1983 to '85. I scoured the island for a traditional Latin mass. Of course, it was before the WWW and I never found one but I strongly suspected one was out there as many fine old vestments would appear at masses which told me priests in S'pore didn't discard all that was beautiful and sacred before VC2, mostly in the old downtown parishes then.
@@thecatholicmanthe Roman missal I use at TLM is over 70 years old and belonged to my husbands grandfather. In the introduction it gives some practical hints to help follow the Holy Mass "with piety and fruitfulness", one of which is to follow all the ceremonies of the Mass and say the Sorrowful Mysteries of the Rosary, meditating on each mystery. God bless 🙏
The TLM could never be devisive...its just a different rite! I wish l could attend it but our Bishop doesnt like the latin mass,he even banned it in my beloved Walsingham😢
I ordered the St. Andrew's Missal 3 weeks ago! It is on backorder. So, I am waiting .... And, yes, the Holy Saturday Mass ('45 liturgy) had the so-called 12 Prophesies!
There was a movement in the 1930s to have the people respond along with the altar servers, the "Dialogue Mass." It was adopted by some dioceses but not all. I've attended traditional Latin masses where the faithful say or sing the responses and where the faithful are completely silent. I suspect this difference can be traced to the Dialogue Mass of the '30s but IDK.
I use the 1958 missal where I feel very present in an era of respect & unity for the Mass & Prayers/Worship. Reading or participating in anything after that leaves me always feeling or wondering if something is incorrect or missing. People are not reading the missal at Mass or at home. People are not reading the Bible at Mass or at home. People are not praying the Rosary at the parish or home as they used to. It's a great loss to a rich prayer life. Such a fullness of the Holy Spirit! ❤ t@@thecatholicman
You mentioned Pope Pius XII in passing. He reduced the number of readings at the Easter Vigil, whereas the Missal of St Paul VI restored some readings. With the introduction of the ESV-CE for the Novus Ordo Lectionary in England, my parish (Bournemouth Oratory) is promoting the use of the Missal by parishioners.
Yes, the "new lectionary" does seem to miss some important passages of scripture but then so does the "old lectionary". There are pluses and minuses in both lectionaries. The same could be said of the old and new breviaries. The new brings in more texts from the OT and the Fathers but the old has its own richness. My point in referencing Pope Pius XII, specifically concerning the Easter Vigil, is that some regrettable reforms - even when introduced for good pastoral reasons - predate the Second Vatican Council. @thecatholicman
Is the Faith in Ireland turning the corner ? When the New Mass came out, Missals were pretty popular. The paper ones in the pews are called missalettes.
Have you heard the news? The World Cup is going to limit play to two periods, to increase participation. BTW, the new pastor at the local parish is from South India, replacing a priest from West Africa. Neither really speaks English, so the Mass is not said in a language understanded by the people.
I certainly do. One is more personal time and quiet contemplation and adoration, the other a rejoicing and marvel of the opening of Heaven and seeing the Angels and Saints joining in. Both are so beautiful.
Well that's new. I am 20 and I always thought that missal was only for the priest to read during mass. I never knew that you could get one as a laity, let alone that people used to have them regularly.
The saint Andrews Daily Missal. Generally I only manage Latin Mass on Sundays in Immaculate Heart Belfast and try main feast days but I use this Missal to pray before and after Holy Mass (N.O) daily. The preparation and thanksgiving prayers are just beautiful.
There's always things to learn! You can get the Novus Ordo missal readily enough, too in most Catholic book shops although because of the way the new Mass lectionary is organised, they'd tend to be gigantic. I have, I believe the St Paul's one, one for week days, one for weekends. Though because of the way the new Mass is can be said, it could be argued all you need are the propers, and an app like "truth and life" ( the RSVCE Bible app) has the readings only. I highly recommend this Bible app, it's Catholic and it's got people like Scott Hahn doing commentary there. But I guess you have to accept it's RSVCE (which I think is great) and not necessarily the same the lectionary Bible text of your locale.
Robert, you mentioned, “the Institute of Christ the King” has Latin masses. Are they members of the FSSP? If not, do they have special permission from Pope Francis or the Vatican to conduct these masses? Or, are the SSPX masses? Are you a member of the SSPX?
The institute of Christ the King are separate to the FSSP and they only offer the sacraments in the old rite with full permission from Pope Francis and support of Irish bishops. They have 3 mass centres, 2 chapels which the bought and a convent of nuns in Ireland
@@thecatholicman thanks for this Robert. As I understand, we don't have anything like this in Canada. As far as I know, no extra-special permission has been given to conduct Latin masses, apart from the FSSP. It is my understanding, that special permission is very hard to obtain from the Vatican.
@@thecatholicman yes, I am familiar with Kennedy Hall. He is a member of the SSPX. In my opinion, he refuses to accept the teachings of Vatican II or the authority of our current Pope, Pope Francis, which, in my opinion. makes him a schismatic or, in the least, in the opinion of Jimmy Akin, to be politically correct, places him "in an irregular canonical status". I prefer to stick to the magisterium and its teachings.
Pope Francis and Pope Benedict the 16th, both recommended the book the Lord of this world by Father Robert Hugh Benson and it’s about the coming of the beast the Messiah United all religions and all countries under one banner except for the Catholic Church that cannot change because of the Latin rite And at the end of the book, the Catholic Church is destroyed. And the Pope sees a great light and a chorus of Angels before the end. This book in 1919 spawned a lot of predictions of the future and made the Catholic Church think it needed to change and so Vatican 2 brought about change a counter church going back to the beginning of the church fathers the early church suffered greatly so in the present day we are suffering greatly history repeating itself This church says it goes forward, but clearly we have gone back to the beginning as in the book Finnegan‘s wake Finn again begin again and it’s awake Mankind has awoken and it is woke The global village will unite all countries and all Religions under one banner under the ban And the Catholic Church to survive will bow down to the New Messiah
That's difficult. The 3 year lectionary is gigantic. Best thing I can say is having a small missallette which has the order of the new Mass, all the Commons with some commentary and explanation, with important prayers and catechesis. Or maybe just one with the Sunday's. A lot of Latin missals can be compact because the lectionary cycle is more limited and and they have got this "flip to page X or y" thing going , not mentioning particular versions but my favourite Latin missal is super compact and readable, but the flipping is something one needs to get used to!
My husband asked to be received into the Catholic Church after going to the Traditional Latin Mass from January last year. He was received in September 2023 and died suddenly in June this year. Thanks be to God that He spoke to his heart in time.
🙏
Lord have mercy on his soul
Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him. May his soul and all the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace.
I’m being converted to Catholicism Latin mass style in six days time on Saturday 14th September 2024. . I went from atheism to the best way of living that I’ve ever had. If I wanted an easy religion, I wouldn’t have chosen this but it chose me. Nothing will put me off. I’m learning so much .I see Jesus.
I have a friend in Florida and the same thing happened to her.
I am very sorry for your loss. 🙏
Beautiful Latin Masses in Waterford FSSP Ireland, sung every Sunday at 1.30pm
The TLM has been a great expansion in my journey.
I ordered a 1962 angelus press missal from silverstream priory shop this morning , hopefully arrives next week
also ordered a rosary and few other bits, gotta support the monks rather than a mainstream shop
I’ve ordered from them too. The monks do answer your questions. Super fast shipping too, to the USA. Everybody should support them!
Robert, I have my parents’ old missal - a St Andrew’s missal with annotations by Gaspar LeFebvre… and the simply beautiful illustrations by Renee deCramer, which help envision the faith in terms of the symbols, angels, saints and Of course Jesus our Lord, and His Blessed Mother. This dear old book, with its crinkly India paper has withstood some 70 years, including five boisterous children thumbing through the pages! How delighted my old Dad would be, to know I take this same missal to ICKSP each Sunday!
Me to! I have my mother's traditional old missal. The art is indeed gorgeous. I am seventy one. I do remembermy early years and being schooled within the Traditional Mass. What left a deep impression on me was the awe and holiness and the incense. The changes occured when i was a youn teen. Eventually I left the Church for Protestanism for over 30 years. I remember my first Mass in the 1990's. My protestant church dressed up for Sundays. I remember my first prayer was at that Mass, " Jesus, if this is not You - Body, Bloos, Soul and Divinity I cannot do this. They are all dressed liked refuggees!". It took time but eventually returned th the Catholic Faith. It is my greatest Gift frm God.
I have a German Missal a Schott with lovely commentaries both for the readings and the Gospel for Sunday's and Feast days. It is lovely! It is Second Vat Council so could easily still be used. Yet I somehow stopped using it. Has its use been discouraged just as the Eucharist itself - you are right about the poor catechises, somehow it has been discouraged😓😡
Me too. Got one in a car boot sale some years ago.
The St Kevin’s (Harrington Road , Dublin ) high Latin mass at 10:30 is a beautiful sung mass with wonderful choirs … well worth attending.. the reading and gospel are sung in Latin and read in English at the homily… it’s a powerful experience, so reverent… lovely to see so many young families and people of all ages in attendance… it’s an oratory and follows the 1962 missal .. it’s not sspx… one can buy a missal from the rectory , a lot of attendees have the missal … just great to see … the church provides a basic booklet for those with no missal to follow the mass , that is returned at the end of the mass … 🙏
18:04 I went to St Kevin's for my first ever latin mass. I was struck by the people over to the right waiting for confession and all the women in veils looking like Saints. The Choir was great and the priest went to the Pulpit for the sermon. So moving
I love the TLM. I still remember as a small child in the early 60s we had mass in Latin in Goa and it was a different experience. It was like to be in heaven. We must preserve Latin n we still say the litany of Mother Mary and a number of hymns in Latin. The younger generation here like the mass n litany in the vernacular language because they have not seen a TLM.
I started the TLM this year and bought a book called 'Know Your Mass'. It is like comic book form but is a great explainer on what the Mass actually is and takes you through all the stages. I couldn't recommend it enough to a beginner.
It is a very beautiful book, indeed. I, too, recommend it highly.
The TLM awoke something in me that helped bring me back to my faith. Like others I was awestruck by the reverence & the beauty. I can rarely go because of where I live/work. BUT, I realize the danger of missing the importance of what Robert here keeps emphasizing - the encounter with Christ! I am reminded of 'where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, I am there among them'. I consider myself fortunate to be able to regularly attend the Novus Ordo.
Also, I often think of that amazing book, 'He Leadeth Me' by Fr. Walter Ciszek: whilst he was a prisoner of WW II in the Siberian labor camps, he and the other prisoners would try to hold mass or confession, or a simple blessing in secrecy from the prison guards, risking their lives to do so, perhaps a tree stump in the woods serving as an altar. Whether TLM,or Novus Ordo, or other liturgy, history shows us that right now our ability and freedom to worship is probably better today than many periods in the past.
I totally agree. Just returned from the Latin Mass.
Laudetur Jesus Christus! Thank you for this great video! St. Teresa of Avila famously said that she would have given her life for even one of the least of the rubrics in the Roman MissaI learned how to pray from the Missal. 25 years ago I bought an old Roman Missal. It was the beginning of a true education in the Catholic Faith! Little did I know. It also taught me how to pray, how one OUGHT to pray, how it behooves us to speak with God! It furnishes the most appropriate language (attitude), a language so sober, so high and noble that it enobles the person inside and out (I read only the part in English. Which is so beautiful!). And the language is perfectly instructive: a soul comes to realize exactly who and what he is before the Creator. This finally knowing the correct relationship with the Lord totally annihilated every defect in my faith. There was no Latin Mass available; the daily reading of the Mass from beginning to end is quite sufficient for taking any Catholic of good will to a far higher plane in their spiritual life. Which seems to me due in large part to the immediate sense of connection you feel with the whole Church, in Heaven, in Purgatory and all across the centuries going right back even to Adam and Eve. I also found all my relatives! For the first time in my life I felt a most remarkable sense of communion with all of them. It was really uncanny. Finally, and I could say tons more, one of the things that most struck me and which I noticed only after about 3 years of reading the Missal daily was this: in an inexplicable fashion, the Missal had thoroughly catechised me. I found myself deeply in love with Dogmas, Sacraments, and Sacred Scriptue as if I had been intellectually immersed in those things for years. How did the Missal do THAT? All I can say is this: the old Roman Missal is truly a gushing fount of living water and I can never get enough of it!
Here, in America, our TLM has the little red books provided for those who want to follow along- I prefer to follow the beauty of the Mass, without reading.
I would say about 10 hours of study and it’s very easy to follow without reading.
Of course, following the Mass with a book is a relatively recent development. The Vetus Ordo was developed when very few of the Faithful could read. Which made every gesture and motion by the priest a living, well orchestrated form of prayer and worship.
How can you understand the new if you don’t understand the old. Indeed, Robert! God bless you! ✝️
Yes Robert, I used a Missal prior to the Novus Ordo. I still use a Missal when I attend the TLM - 1962.
As a deacon, I do use the Magnificat Missal when assisting at the Novus Ordo.
Robert thanks for that profound comment. One hundred years ago the faithful understood the Mass better. That's really something for us all to ponder.
Treasure indeed, how could it be anything less as Jesus is there present in the Holy Eucharist. There is no greater treasure than the mass.
Our church celebrates the 55 Easter mass. It’s absolutely beautiful.
During Low Mass some people say the responses with the alter boys.
We have red missals available for all that need one.
I love the TLM
This topic was brought up to me after Mass today. I tend to want to believe like you. The Latin Mass is not offered close to where I live, and we do have a wonderful Mass here in town. Jesus will triumph, I have no doubt. God's will be done. Do His Will. Seek truth, know peace.
I lived in Singapore from 1983 to '85. I scoured the island for a traditional Latin mass. Of course, it was before the WWW and I never found one but I strongly suspected one was out there as many fine old vestments would appear at masses which told me priests in S'pore didn't discard all that was beautiful and sacred before VC2, mostly in the old downtown parishes then.
My great aunt always prayed her rosary during Mass although missals were available
Even today I see many elderly with rosary in their hands during mass
@@thecatholicmanthe Roman missal I use at TLM is over 70 years old and belonged to my husbands grandfather. In the introduction it gives some practical hints to help follow the Holy Mass "with piety and fruitfulness", one of which is to follow all the ceremonies of the Mass and say the Sorrowful Mysteries of the Rosary, meditating on each mystery. God bless 🙏
The Eucharist is a miracle because it is supernatural and beyond the capacity of man.
The TLM could never be devisive...its just a different rite! I wish l could attend it but our Bishop doesnt like the latin mass,he even banned it in my beloved Walsingham😢
I ordered the St. Andrew's Missal 3 weeks ago! It is on backorder. So, I am waiting .... And, yes, the Holy Saturday Mass ('45 liturgy) had the so-called 12 Prophesies!
The sung mass is how I like latin mass.
Hand Missals are full of so much solid teaching compared to what is in the average church pew.
There was a movement in the 1930s to have the people respond along with the altar servers, the "Dialogue Mass." It was adopted by some dioceses but not all. I've attended traditional Latin masses where the faithful say or sing the responses and where the faithful are completely silent. I suspect this difference can be traced to the Dialogue Mass of the '30s but IDK.
The Old Mass is only problematic to those who hate the Old Faith...
I find it profoundly problematic the hatred and opposition to the simple old Latin Mass.
@@thecatholicmanThere should be no hatred for the TLM nor should there be any hatred for the Novus Ordo Mass when properly following the rubrics.
I use the 1958 missal where I feel very present in an era of respect & unity for the Mass & Prayers/Worship. Reading or participating in anything after that leaves me always feeling or wondering if something is incorrect or missing. People are not reading the missal at Mass or at home. People are not reading the Bible at Mass or at home. People are not praying the Rosary at the parish or home as they used to. It's a great loss to a rich prayer life. Such a fullness of the Holy Spirit! ❤ t@@thecatholicman
@@thecatholicmanGod wants us to believe, trust & love in Him & His Word unconditionally. Then we receive the gift of faith.❤🕊
Can you do a video on how to use the missal?
I love ICKS!
You mentioned Pope Pius XII in passing. He reduced the number of readings at the Easter Vigil, whereas the Missal of St Paul VI restored some readings. With the introduction of the ESV-CE for the Novus Ordo Lectionary in England, my parish (Bournemouth Oratory) is promoting the use of the Missal by parishioners.
I’ve no problem at all with the new lectionary, apart from the fact some readings are not the full passage from scripture
Yes, the "new lectionary" does seem to miss some important passages of scripture but then so does the "old lectionary". There are pluses and minuses in both lectionaries. The same could be said of the old and new breviaries. The new brings in more texts from the OT and the Fathers but the old has its own richness. My point in referencing Pope Pius XII, specifically concerning the Easter Vigil, is that some regrettable reforms - even when introduced for good pastoral reasons - predate the Second Vatican Council. @thecatholicman
Is the Faith in Ireland turning the corner ?
When the New Mass came out, Missals were pretty popular.
The paper ones in the pews are called missalettes.
Have you heard the news? The World Cup is going to limit play to two periods, to increase participation. BTW, the new pastor at the local parish is from South India, replacing a priest from West Africa. Neither really speaks English, so the Mass is not said in a language understanded by the people.
Is the Novus Ordo actually a reform of Vatican II or a production of Archbishop Bugnini?
Personally I would says it’s a 1960s bugnini deformation… but i suppose we have to let history judge
The latter
Robert and friends , does this missile actually contain the very rite of consecration?
All of the words and prayers?
Before the NO, were all the TLM offered as High masses vs. Low masses? Do you find the same beauty of the low mass as compared to the high mass?
I certainly do. One is more personal time and quiet contemplation and adoration, the other a rejoicing and marvel of the opening of Heaven and seeing the Angels and Saints joining in. Both are so beautiful.
Well that's new. I am 20 and I always thought that missal was only for the priest to read during mass. I never knew that you could get one as a laity, let alone that people used to have them regularly.
The missal is for everyone and recommended to everyone
The saint Andrews Daily Missal. Generally I only manage Latin Mass on Sundays in Immaculate Heart Belfast and try main feast days but I use this Missal to pray before and after Holy Mass (N.O) daily. The preparation and thanksgiving prayers are just beautiful.
There's always things to learn!
You can get the Novus Ordo missal readily enough, too in most Catholic book shops although because of the way the new Mass lectionary is organised, they'd tend to be gigantic.
I have, I believe the St Paul's one, one for week days, one for weekends.
Though because of the way the new Mass is can be said, it could be argued all you need are the propers, and an app like "truth and life" ( the RSVCE Bible app) has the readings only. I highly recommend this Bible app, it's Catholic and it's got people like Scott Hahn doing commentary there. But I guess you have to accept it's RSVCE (which I think is great) and not necessarily the same the lectionary Bible text of your locale.
Robert, you mentioned, “the Institute of Christ the King” has Latin masses. Are they members of the FSSP? If not, do they have special permission from Pope Francis or the Vatican to conduct these masses? Or, are the SSPX masses? Are you a member of the SSPX?
The institute of Christ the King are separate to the FSSP and they only offer the sacraments in the old rite with full permission from Pope Francis and support of Irish bishops. They have 3 mass centres, 2 chapels which the bought and a convent of nuns in Ireland
@@thecatholicman thanks for this Robert. As I understand, we don't have anything like this in Canada. As far as I know, no extra-special permission has been given to conduct Latin masses, apart from the FSSP. It is my understanding, that special permission is very hard to obtain from the Vatican.
@@crazyedswonderfulworldofso9370 contact Kennedy Hall in Canada, he is a layman who is spearheading the TLM there and has a lot of contacts
@@thecatholicman yes, I am familiar with Kennedy Hall. He is a member of the SSPX. In my opinion, he refuses to accept the teachings of Vatican II or the authority of our current Pope, Pope Francis, which, in my opinion. makes him a schismatic or, in the least, in the opinion of Jimmy Akin, to be politically correct, places him "in an irregular canonical status". I prefer to stick to the magisterium and its teachings.
Not correct. SSPX is not schismatic. Please do your research. @crazyedswonderfulworldofso9370
Pope Francis and Pope Benedict the 16th, both recommended the book the Lord of this world by Father Robert Hugh Benson and it’s about the coming of the beast the Messiah United all religions and all countries under one banner except for the Catholic Church that cannot change because of the Latin rite And at the end of the book, the Catholic Church is destroyed. And the Pope sees a great light and a chorus of Angels before the end.
This book in 1919 spawned a lot of predictions of the future and made the Catholic Church think it needed to change and so Vatican 2 brought about change a counter church going back to the beginning of the church fathers the early church suffered greatly so in the present day we are suffering greatly history repeating itself This church says it goes forward, but clearly we have gone back to the beginning as in the book Finnegan‘s wake
Finn again begin again and it’s awake Mankind has awoken and it is woke The global village will unite all countries and all Religions under one banner under the ban And the Catholic Church to survive will bow down to the New Messiah
Someone needs to make a decent NO missal with everything in it.
I’ve nothing against the Novus Ordo missal.
🙏
That's difficult.
The 3 year lectionary is gigantic.
Best thing I can say is having a small missallette which has the order of the new Mass, all the Commons with some commentary and explanation, with important prayers and catechesis. Or maybe just one with the Sunday's.
A lot of Latin missals can be compact because the lectionary cycle is more limited and and they have got this "flip to page X or y" thing going , not mentioning particular versions but my favourite Latin missal is super compact and readable, but the flipping is something one needs to get used to!
you look far too young to have adult children