The Problem with the Ash'ari Position
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I‘m so tired of explaining to asharis that we don’t attribute body parts to Allah when describing Him with the same words He uses for Himself
Even in our own world the same word can mean 2 totally different things. I don't understand how they don't get this simple concept
Most of what asharis say against atharis are strawmen. This fact is highly revealing.
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They say athari have mujasim mindset but they project a mujasim mindset is why they deny Sifa verses in 1st place *!!!**
Ask them can you name a living thing w/o a body, if they say no in their logic they mujasim, if they deny Allah's Living then they at atheism, see how Ashariya is at 2 extremes.
Affirm Allah's Siffat as perfect in Quran 16.60 to negate atheism & deny likeness to negate polytheism in Quran 42.11 - Tawhid baIance.
Quran 16.60 ties Allah's perfect Siffat to akira, many jahmis deny Seeing Allah which is in Qiyama v. 23.
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& these jahmiya project, contradict themselves & deny Quran.
if you guys are tired and cant understand it maybe you should try to explain to giant Ashari scholars then if its so easy and logical
fact is that we know what hand and feet and face means
if you affirm it while simultaneously denying it being parts and limbs then you are in reality adopting tafweed which asharis accept as well
but if you deny tawid and tawil then i dont see another option left than accepting body parts
this approach is especially problematic with the hadith of the Nuzul of Allah and Christians will gladly use it against islam to defend their own idea of incarnation
Most Muslims in the West study jurisprudence but do not know the most important books of Aleaqidah, so they fall into the disasters of the Maturidites, Ash’aris, Shiites, etc..
My brother Jake suggested making an episode about what a Muslim should read from the books of Aleaqida to understand the true faith.
I know that Ibn Taymiyyah’s books are the best, such as the book of the Wasitiyya Aleaqidah, the Tadmurian Aleaqidah , and the Hamwi Aleaqidah , in addition to the Book of Tawheed by Muhammad Abd al-Wahhab and the book of the Tahawi Aleaqidah.
May Allah guide our brothers and sisters and all of us Ameen.
Salam alaikoum from west Africa the Gambia.
jazakallaahu khayran
Having studied Maturidi aqeedah for some time, watching your videos has really changed some of the views I had held. This issue in particular has been really beneficial to learn more about. Appreciate your work bro!
Glad to hear that. Make sure to check out this article is you haven't already: www.academia.edu/115368939/The_God_of_Aristotle_is_Not_the_God_of_Abraham
And this one: www.academia.edu/121022345/Asharism_The_Creed_of_the_Ummah
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Mashallah ❤
Jazak Allah Khiar
And may Allah have mercy on Imam Ibn Al-Qayyiem when he said in his Poem “Noneat Ibn Al-Qayyiem”:-
والرب فوق العرش والكرسي لا ... يخفى عليه خواطر الإنسان
لا تحصروه في مكان إذ تقو ... لوا ربنا حقا بكل مكان
نزهتموه بجهلكم عن عرشه ... وحصرتموه في مكان ثان
لا تعدموه بقولكم لا داخل ... فينا ولا هو خارج الأكوان
Translation:-
Allah is above his Kursy and his throne ... this is not absent of Human awareness!
Don’t limit him in this place and say ... he is in all places!
You have claimed ignorantly that you honoured him by rejecting him on his throne … then you limit him in another place!
Don’t make him Nothingness by saying he is not inside us … neither he is out of the universes!
Subhanallah
Lots of love From Afghanistan Brother jake Your doing a great job
Appreciate your love and support!
May Allah help the salafis from the sofia Ashari & she'uh cariji alliance there.
I heard that Deobandis are killing the salafi scholars in Afghanistan
Is that correct?
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 I think they are mostly deobandi the taliban.
@@Hasan-dy4mk
Yea that sounds right. I think deobands are sofia Ashari & maturidi, no?
Good job, as always. PLEASE invite Hamza Yusuf for a sit-down conversation. I think a dialogue face to face would benefit the Ummah and eliminate the holes for others to exploit. Please reach out to him for a brotherly dialogue. Thanks.
Hamza Yusuf dedicated his life to studying islam. May Allah heal our Ummah. Why don’t you just contact Hamza Yusuf to speak to him about this? These young RUclipsrs are doing quarreling and really engaging in character that we as Muslims should never engage in… may Allah guide and forgive us all.
@@RememberTheLord
Bullshit
@@johnstanley7874
Yes I will but don't forget that
She says that to the Zindiq Hamza Youssef too
Excellent breakdown. Very important point about how the aloofness and abstraction of the Ashari God (conception of) creates a vacuum; a vacuum which the ignorant then fill by deifying His Slaves and worshipping them through istighatha. May Allah bless you, brother Jake, and further sharpen your intellect and iman.
Ameen ya rabb! Appreciate your comments.
Wow I never really thought about that. So you are saying that the “ya Abdul Qadir Jilani” phenomenon is a natural follow-up to the Ashari creed? Makes a lot of sense honestly
@@hahdgdgherfhx It is a natural consequence of any view, including the Ash'ari view, that denies that Allah acts in succession and genuinely relates to His creation. I mentioned this point later in the video.
@@JakeBrancatella I can’t watch long videos sadly. That’s what happens when one has the attention span of a goldfish 😔
@@hahdgdgherfhx May Allah cure you.
4:33 I think the interviewer was saying it was a really big issue in Christianity and Hamza yusuf was saying not really in comparison, not that no debates or discussions happened.
No, he was asked whether or not the relationship between God and time was a dispute in the Islamic tradition and Hamza Yusuf said, "not really."
Much love brother Jake, جَزَاك اللهُ خَيْرًا
I am going miss various people misreading your name and calling you Muslim physician 😂. May Allah bless you and your family for this beneficial knowledge!
❤ from Uzbek Muslim
Thank you so much for this brother Allah bless you and your family and protect you allhmadllah
love from your polish brother , love the content my bro
Akhi Jake. I love you for the sake of Allah. may Allah bless you. thank you so much for this amazing educational video. keep up the good work akhi!
Ameen ya rabb! I greatly appreciate your support and encouragement.
May Allah bless you Jack, for all this Analysis it helps a lot to understand, what is going in a wrong direction in this Ummah.
JazakAllah Kheir
I don’t know why. But I like it when brother Jake is passionate about the truth. May Allah guide us. ✨
Thank you Jake, I didn't know what Sh. Hamza's affiliations were & for shedding light on what Ash'ari means. Hopefully we will see many more insh'Allah.
Love the account changes, keep up the good work brother!!
Mashallah a very beneficial video. Would love it if you could make more of these videos that talk about the problems with the ashari aqeeda and about the what the correct aqeedah is. Barakallahu feek
Wa feekum barakAllah. Appreciate the feedback
It is a very helpful video but very advanced. I benefited a lot of knowledge from it. Masha'ALLAH.
May Allah reward you Jake! Please make more Jahmiyyah refutations! The Ummah needs it.
Appriciate your work
From bosnia ❤
سبحان الله اللهم بارك نسأل الله ان يثبتك على هذا يا جايك وأن لا يزيغ قلبك عن هذا الثغر ما تقوم به شيء مهم جدا وموقفك من مسائل الإعتقاد موقف طيب عليك أن تحافظ عليه ولا تتهاون مهما حاول ان يثنيك عنه من حاول سددك الله وفقك الله
Barak Allahu feek brother. These are vital points in the aqeeda that determine ones salvation in the hereafter. May Allah guide these asharites away from the mutazilite aqeeda and towards the aqeeda prescribed by the Prophet pbuh which we find as clear as day in the Quran and Hadith.
May Allah reward you for your sincerity! congratulations for the new profile's picture, it's sad you are not the muslim Metaphysican anymore though 😁
No wonder I thought he looked familiar. It got me confused for a moment if you didn't write this.
You and AbdurRahman are doing amazing job. BarekAllahu Fikuma.
Alhamdulillah. Wa feekum barakAllah
Asharis believe that will,love is one attribute.The implication of this belief is that god loves pharoah also because pharoah is ontologically willed by God.
Salam. Loving all the calling out series on The Jake Brancatella Show 📺. Brother Jake keeps it simple and straight from the Quran and Sunnah! That's why I don't see him just as a RUclipsr! His sharing of knowledge is above the usual RUclips stuff! The same goes for Brother Sharif from Thought Adventure Podcast! 2:18
Akhi jake will you still do debating on clubhouse or any other will you still make videos debating?
No, I'm not on clubhouse anymore. However, I plan on doing live streams in the future on my channel where these discussions will take place in shaa Allah.
@@JakeBrancatella oh on RUclips livestream debates right?
Yes
So I'm not coming with obscenities nor am I attacking you Jake, but I want to understand your stance on this issue. I am not familiar with Mr.Hamza and his personal views on the Asya'riah aqeeda, but what is the main reason you are against it? Because here in South East Asia, the majority of muslims are Sunnis following the manhaj of salaf dan khalaf (Asya’irah and Maturidiyyah). And for us they ARE the aqeeda of our Prophet Muhammad SAW, brought up in its time to guide Muslims from the misguidances of the Mu'tazilites. I have been following and supporting your content, but this is the first time that I respectfully am in disagreement with you.
Brother Jake is against Ash’ariyyah because Ash’ariyyah goes against the Qur’an. The majority of Muslims have no idea what Ash’ariyyah and Maturīdiyyah are, and they definitely do not hold their beliefs.
You are right, he still should learn more and more. He thinks himself as a great scholar 😂
Manhaj of the salaf !!
Just google when ashaari and maturidi were born..
@@mahmudibnabidin Brother, How do you know that the majority of Muslims have no idea what Asya'irah is? Have you travelled enough around the world to claim that? I know there are deviants in every path, even in Asya'irah. But to claim that Asya'irah as a whole carries a distorted view of God? Audzubillah..
I will leave with Ibn hajar al-haytami in his book Al-Zawajir 'An Iqtiraf Al-Kaba'ir. He said that one of the biggest sin is to abandon the Sunnah. And the ones who abandon the upholders of the Sunnah who are (at the time) Imam Abu al-Hasan al-Asy'ari and Abu Mansur al-Maturidi, they are the true practitioners of bid'ah.
@@Turkistonkanal He is doing good work and we must support our fellow Muslim brothers and sisters. But sometimes we have to remind them to perform da'wah with Tawadu', not Takkabur.
Why are we overthinking about something we dont know? And worse, arguing against fellow muslim in public behind him. Astaghfirullah. The flow of time is what we experience as humans not contrary to Quran and hadith but physical reality could be something totally different…All time from inception to the end of universe could even be at the same time in the big bang theory. Wallahu’alam!
We aren't overthinking anything we don't know. We are explaining the clear view of the Qur'an and Sunnah and how and why the Mutakallimun do not want to accept it.
ما شاء الله الحمد لله رب العالمين
أخي أحبك في الله عز وجل
I ask "الله سبحانه" to increase you in knowledge and wisdom
Asalam o alykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh, hello, I just wanted to say thank you, for posting these kinds of videos. For a long time, I have been somewhat confused on matters regarding to aqeedah, as there are so many positions that it just becomes overwhelming. I don’t have a teacher or a mentor that can actually clear up the confusion - so I have to take pieces of information from multiple sources and just somehow work with it. I just wanted to ask, is the athari creed the same as the creed sheikh Albani followed? Also, I have been seeing “salafi” everywhere, is that the same as athari? If not, what are the differences. I would greatly appreciate if you made a video clearing up this kind of stuff as aqeedah can become very confusing for laymen like me. Thank you.
Wa alaykumu salaam. Appreciate the questions. Yes, shaykh al-Albani was an Athari in creed/aqeedah. As for the term Salafi, I tend to use it less because it is ambiguous. Some use the term Salafi to refer to those who do not ascribe to a particular madhhab in fiqh. From that perspective, I am not a Salafi as I follow the Maliki school in fiqh. However, the term Salafi is also sometimes used to refer to views on aqeedah or creed. From that perspective, I am a Salafi. There are other terms used to refer to a Salafi in aqeedah such as Athari/Hanbali/Ahl al-Hadith. In that sense, they are used pretty much synonymously.
@@JakeBrancatella Thank you so much for responding - also, in the comments I noticed that you asked people “Does Allah know if it is 2025”, what is the conclusion that can be derived from this question? Can you perhaps clarify this for me, thank you (and I apologize for asking so much lol)
@@JabirZakaria Have you noticed that none of them has been able to clearly answer the question? I'll save the answer to your question for a future video in shaa Allah.
@@JakeBrancatella Thank you. Also, I was wondering if you had any books you could recommend in regards to aqeedah. I personally, do not agree with the ashari principles as there are many inconsistencies with them - so I was wondering if you had anything we can study in regards to the athari creed. May Allah reward you for your services.
@@JabirZakaria No problem. Do you prefer English or Arabic?
Appreciate all the work Ustadh. May Allah protect you and reward you
I always felt something wrong with him , despite some good he put out there , but Do not show courtesy at the expense of religion, in order to please Christians, Jews, and others ، Do what you are commanded, and do not fear, for God’s sake, the blame of the blamer 🛑🖐🏼
Q1. Is Allah bound by time? Can He time travel? Q2. Is the definition of time the SAME across the board? Isn't it RELATIVE?
I already answered question 2. Time travel is an impossibility and God's power does not attach to impossibilities by the consensus of all schools of theology.
Beautifully said akhi
JazakAllah brother Jake keep up the good work my guy
Thank you, brother, for this wonderful video.
Jazakallah khayr for this excellent video brother.
Q: Isn't there a hadith about the man who conquers constantinople. And that he is a rightous man. That was muhammad al fatih. Im not sure but i heard that he was maturidi or ashari and a sufi. Doesn't that mean that his position is correct?
If you close your eye when Hamza Yusuf talking tell me you don’t hear Jordan Peterson?
Please don't compare your muslim brother to that garbage Peterson even if Yusuf is on a questionable aqeeda
Mashallah, sheikh Hamza Yusuf was one of the reasons I came back to religion, I don't agree with alot of the Ashari beliefs he believes in, but I pray Allah for me and him and all Muslims to be guided the righteous path in our lifetime before we die and regret it.
God acts voluntarily and it is one of his praiseworthy character.
Excellent video. Brother Masha Allah
Jake, he stuttered like he did with the response of whether the Qur'an is created lol he definitely knows whether people differed or not lool
Btw I can't see the website with the article
Asalam Aleikum my sister I just wanted to let you know I agreed with you on Farid responds page to avoid troIs but I was blocked, if this was not on purpose I forgive.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
It was on purpose because you kept going under other posts. The comment section is not there for political views or insults and the likes. Hence I blocked both of you.
@@assassinwithalqalam
This incorrect speech. I only replied to his Iies letting him know it befit him more as hadith says Iies befit the Iiar more and tried to tell or **ask* him to check his intent, if it was projecting political or due to political Ioss & replied to his Iies. I didn't want to initiate politics.
Whenever I went on a thread if you look at the replies from other ppl it was to discuss the quotes of sahabas which they even asked for, it was the same thread you replied to me on if you want to see I didn't plan anything, and I had quotes of she'uh books. The one time I saw his question I warned the thread of his Iies that he said sahabas wanted wor. Similarly I have posts here just about din just like you as another check.
if you want to treat the one who defends himself & sahaba the same as one who ataqs after I agreed and didn't know there were mods & i was ok to delete my replies as he or she is gone.
it's ok in sense I am not sure if there is a right to be taken or not on Qiyama but i don't mind taking it. Nothing personal, I'll be busy, anyways take care. May Allah guide us.
Btw the articIe I saw in description now so it should be visible.
@@assassinwithalqalam
This incorrect speech. I only replied to his Iies letting him know it befit him more as hadith says Iies befit the Iiar more and tried to tell or **ask* him to check his intent, if it was projecting political or due to political Ioss & replied to his Iies. I didn't want to initiate politics.
Whenever I went on a thread if you look at the replies from other ppl it was to discuss the quotes of sahabas which they even asked for, it was the same thread you replied to me on if you want to see I didn't plan anything, and I had quotes of she'uh books. The one time I saw his question I warned the thread of his Iies that he said sahabas wanted wor. Similarly I have posts here just about din just like you as another check.
if you want to treat the one who defends himself & sahaba the same as one who ataqs after I agreed and didn't know there were m0ds & i was ok to delete my replies as he or she is gone.
it's ok in sense I am not sure if there is a right to be taken or not on Qiyama but i don't mind taking it. Nothing personal, I'll be busy, anyways take care. May Allah guide us.
@@assassinwithalqalam
This incorrect speech. I only replied to his Iies letting him know it befit him more as hadith says Iies befit the Iiar more and tried to tell or **ask* him to check his intent, if it was projecting political or due to political Ioss & replied to his Iies. I didn't want to initiate politics.
Whenever I went on a thread if you look at the replies from other ppl it was to discuss the quotes of sahabas which they even asked for, it was the same thread you replied to me on if you want to see I didn't plan anything, and I had quotes of she'uh books. The one time I saw his question I warned the thread of his Iies that he said sahabas wanted wor. Similarly I have posts here *just about din just like* you as another check.
Jazak Allah Khairan ya Akhi.
It was good interview.
JazakAllah'u khairan brother
Wa iyyakum akhi!
Why the name change? I liked Muslim Metaphysician 😢
Brother it’s really good that you’re not letting these creedal matters dissipate by highlighting the serious flaws of the Ashari’s. May Allah increase your rank.
Hmm. Its not as simple / black& white as this video portrays. There is no logical problem with God being completely outside our time and still acting (from our perspective) sequentially in ‘our’ time from our point of view. In the same way that you wouldn’t say God enters his creation, but his interventions do affect it and in fact he is causing it (the creation) to exist at every moment in time. Also there could be many ‘times’ or ‘time flows’. Our time may well be a part of this creation and entirely separate from some relational time concept as relates to God’s actions if you like. Try to imagine time as another 4th dimension of this material creation.God can be outside it and act both timelessly and ‘at once’ (in parallel) but from our perspective sequentially. There is no contradiction in this. Both speakers and Jake appear to miss this. I am not disagreeing with one position or the other just saying its a much deeper and more complex concept. And yes it is a mystery! There’s no harm to appeal to mystery here. No one truly understands time. Physicists have been wrestling with it for hundreds of years.
Sorry, but you just said a whole lot of nothing. Also, the view of time you presenting is not the Ash'ari view of time or the classical Islamic view of time. Time is not a discrete created substance, distinct and separate from Allah, according the classical Islamic tradition. However, let's cut to the chase and make this simple. Does Allah know that it is the year 2025 right now?
I consider myself an athari, but of course I don’t know every single position, therefore I will just ask the issue I face.
I hope someone can answer me sincerely, because this comes from a place of asking to understand.
I understand, that brother jake says, if you believe that Allah is outside of time, that he is like frozen, but based on my understanding, that doesn’t automatically translate to that.
We all agree, that Allah is not physical and nothing is like him. To „force“ this understanding of him, being frozen because he is outside of time, seems to me like a forced limitation on Allah, just because we can’t comprehend anything outside of time.
I absolutely believe and understand, that based on our perception, Allah does things before and after, but that doesn’t mean that there is an before and after to him.
I don’t think, that this two beliefs contradict, unless someone can show me the flaws in my understanding.
Has Allah already judged everyone on judgment day or not yet?
@@JakeBrancatellaQ1: Does Allah know about future or not?
Q2: Ain't these matters related to Qadar and we should not talk about these?
@@JakeBrancatella From our perspective no, from gods perspective, is something else.
@@JakeBrancatella My issue with this understanding are two.
First, when we do something, it takes time and meanwhile, even the atoms inside of us, have moved already.
Allah is not like the creation, so what type of change will Allah himself have, so that there is an before and after to him? He isn’t subject of smaller parts or constant changes, like we are. So I see this question about time towards God as „nonsense“, like I see the question „who created god“ as nonsense.
The other problem which I face with this understanding is, you face the contradiction of REACHING Infinity.
@@JakeBrancatella And another issue which I saw, was like you already defined what time is, like there is an absolute understanding of this.
And it doesn’t need to be like a physical substance, for god to still create it, like it isn’t with consciousness, unless you want to claim, that it is uncreated.
Br Jake, may Allah reward you. What about general relativity? It has been proven that time can stretch and be elongated by gravitation, based on the orbits of planets and other celestial bodies. Doesn't this suggest that time is, in fact, some sort of substance outside of Allah like space?
Wa iyyakum. We are not discussing physical theories in this video. The response about time not being a substance is a response to Ash'aris and Maturidis who do not believe that it is, while at the same time, their objection mentioned in the video assumes it.
brother, you should also make other content instead of just the call-out series. You now have good following who can learn alot of good things from you and InshaAllah Allah will reward you.
This video isn't a "call-out" video. It's a video which uses recent statements from a popular figure to explain an important aspect of creed to Muslims.
Do what you are commanded, and do not fear, for God’s sake, the blame of the blamer
Brother Jake I honestly do not see the point in you harping on about athari vs ashari. Firstly, hamza is a Sufi deviant so the ashari point is irrelevant. Secondly, the layman has no idea about these 2 concepts and neither takes you outside of the fold of Islam as long as you believe in the 6 articles of faith. These discussions do not help the Ummah, in fact they do the opposite. At the end of the day, the Ummah needs to unite against these pseudo salafs or Madkhalis and the Kuffar and establish Khilafah. That's the only thing that matters. Hope that makes sense inshAllah. Peace.
No, it doesn't make sense for several reasons. Hamza Yusuf is representing the traditional Ash'ari view in the video here. Secondly, the layman does have an idea about this topic. As Ash'ari and Maturidi scholars admit, the layman hold the Athari view. See here for more details: www.academia.edu/121022345/Asharism_The_Creed_of_the_Ummah
Holding the Ash'ari and Maturidi views on this topic makes you a deviant if you understand what you are affirming and that you are rejecting the clear texts of the Qur'an.
The dispute between Atharites and Ash'arites is a dispute about Allah
Also, the Salaf disbelieved those who denied Allah's names and attributes and distorted them, so they did not remain Muslims, the greatest disagreement is the disagreement about Allah and the establishment of Tawhid is more important than the establishment of the caliphate.
But what if deviants takeover that caliphate and spread shirk and falsehood.
They’ll create another Mihna.
Also 90% of Ash’ira are Sufi so if they’re deviant by your logic then the Ash’ira are also deviant.
This work needs to be done. Believe me, when Muslims rectify their belief system and know their lord, khilafa will come about in no time.
Brother Jake, can you please make a video explaining how the متكلمون reached to the conclusion that Allah cannot act in succession.
بارك الله فيك
Sure in shaa Allah
Brother Jake, You believe in Tafwid? Right?
Your problem is with Asharis and Maturidis who do taweel?
Tafwid al-ma'ana? No, I don't.
Great explanation
I don´t follow any schools and just call myself a muslim and pray everyday. I like things as simple as possible lol.
I think you never thought about which school (creed) you agree with. And yes everybody claims they are following quran and Sunnah.
@@elmustapha111the Ami has no madhab, if he doesn't want to learn about that stuff and wants to stick to the basics, leave him alone don't try to bully him.
@@Hasan-dy4mkNot madhab a aqeedah is fard obligation to learn.
@@Dont-worry1618 So if he is someone who knows nothing about asharism maturidism, or even atharism, its safe to assume he has the correct aqeeda as long as he says la ilaha illallah, right?
@@Hasan-dy4mk It is obligation to learn about Allah swt. Their is no such thing as taken the safe approach by not learning about ur creator. Learn the Aqeedah of the 3 pious generations the Atthari Aqeedah.
I want to provide a clarification for those who see the dispute between Ahl al-Hadith and Athar and Ash'arites as insignificant:
1/The disagreement between the Atharites and the Ash'arites is a disagreement about Allah. Either you follow Allah as He is described in the revelation or the God of Aristotle, this is kofr or iman
2/ The methodology adopted by the Ash'arites is deviant not only in aqida (doctrine) (which is the most important) but also in Islamic law , hadiths... So you find every deviant (secular, liberal, modernist, etc.) has mostly an Ash'arite doctrine
Jonathan brown is Ashari liberal.
Sofia Uthman became secular as they put bida before Quran and Ashari Jordan backed by uk rebeI on them and Iost qudz
Thank you Jake
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They play the complexity game
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Thank you Jake for breaking it down. I actually do tune out after a while n cannot register anything in my brain after that 🤦♀️😭😂
24:26 Glad you call out how their aqeeda lead them to shirk. Especially the muta'khreen who mixed their ashari aqeeda with their extreme sufism to fit along together since their main aqeeda doesn't contradict thier sufism like their definition of the shahada as it is stated in the main ashari scholars books
Imam al-Qurtubi said:
الثالث : اختلفوا في جواز ذلك بناءً على الخلاف في جواز تأويلها (٢). وقد عرف أن مذهب السلف ترك التعرض لتأويلها، مع قطعهم باستحالة ظواهرها ،
"It is known that the method of the Salaf was to refrain from interpreting the mutashabihat with the certainty that the dhahir is not meant."
Al-Qurtubi on the Beliefs of the Early Generations
“Most of the early and latter [scholars] said, “When it is necessary to exonerate the Creator (al-Bâri) (Exalted is He) from directionality (jihah) and spatial locatedness (taḥayyuz), then it is a necessary concomitant of this, in the view of the majority of the early scholars and their later leaders, to exonerate Him from directionality. In their view, He is not in the direction of aboveness. This is because, to them, when Allah has a direction, this necessitates spatial locatedness (makân) and a confine (ḥayyiz), which necessitate movement and stillness, and change and origination.” This is the saying of the rationalist theologians. The early salaf (may Allah be pleased with them) never used to speak of the negation of direction, nor did they ever utter it. Rather, all of them spoke with affirmation of it (jihah) for Allah, the Exalted, just as His Book spoke of it and His Messengers told about it. None of the righteous predecessors (al-Salaf al-Ṣâliḥ) denied that He istawa (rose/settled) above His Throne in reality (haqeeqatan). And the Throne has been singled out because it is the greatest of His creations. The salaf had no knowledge of the kayfiyyah (modality) of al-istiwâ’, for there is no one who knows its ontological reality. Imam Mâlik (may Allah have mercy upon him) said, “Al-istiwâ’ is known...” - meaning, in the language - “...and its modality is unknown, and asking about it is an innovation.” Likewise, said Umm Salamah (may Allah be pleased with her).” (Abu ‘Abd Allâh Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Qurṭubi, Tafseer al-Qurṭubi, 2nd ed., ed. Ahmad al-Bardooni and Ibrâheem Aṭfayyish (Cairo: Dâr al-Kutub al-Miṣriyyah, 1384/1964), 7:219.)
Qurtubi is Ash'ari and he is lying to the Salaf
Q1: Does Allah know about future or not?
Q2: Ain't these matters related to Qadar and we should not talk about these?
Yes, of course He does. No, they're not. Now, let me ask you. Does Allah know that it is 2025 right now?
Are u willing to debate prominent ashari and maturidi scholars of the world including Al azhar?
he should debate sheikh asrar rashid, he is ashari as far as i know
hahahaha al Azhar the university run by Jews many times...
Br Jake, I was thinking about getting the Quran Beheld by Sh. Nuh Keller. However, reading some controversy about the author having a cult or even ashari influences, comments?
Stay away from him and his works.
@@JakeBrancatella Alhamdulillah. Jzk brother
Yeah he has a cult and it’s known for abusing its members.
@@user-bn2nv5mx2gwtf have you got proof of this?
Does this even matter at all time when people are being slaughtered and genocided…I mean who gives a damn about anything in this video
If you don't give a damn about what's in the video, then your faith is in question. You shouldn't speak this way when the video is about who Allah is.
@@JakeBrancatellabit of an oversimplification of what I was saying and a little dishonest to be fair. This video doesn’t truly deal with who Allah is, nor is it the most important argument that needs to be had at this stage given global events. Maybe my language was a little harsh but that’s all I was saying. Salam alaykhum
The Ashari aqeedah is what happens when greek philosophy corrupts islam
You nailed it!
Asharis: we believe in occassionalim
Also asharis : God doesnt act
Brilliant summary and demonstration of contradiction. It shows you are really tracking and understanding their view ma shaa Allah.
Barakallah hu feek
I learn these things from ibn taymiyya ra through his books
Istighasa point you raised is really good! MashaAllah
Hudoos ul ajsam argument is reason why asharis dont believe god acts voluntarily.Many kalam theologians had rejected hudoos ul ajsaam.I think i could b wrong ibn taymiyya ra has refute this by saying that genus of hawadis has no beginning but every individual haadis has.
Like the content as usual. But this topic always confuses me. All that comes to mind is the number 10 because it sound like that in Arabic 😅
Love from Qatar, brother.
Should we treat Ash'aris as part of Ahlussunnah? Or is it only when opposed to Shi'as?
الأشاعرة درجات، فالمتكلمون منهم الذين جروا على طريقة الجويني فضلا عن الذين جروا على طريقة الرازي ليسوا من أهل السنة قطعا إلا بالمفهوم الأوسع الذي هو في مقابل الشيعة الرافضة، وأما محدثيهم وفقهائهم المقلدين في باب الاعتقاد ككثير من المتأخرين من العلماء فيجوز إطلاق لفظ أهل السنة عليهم فيما وافقوا فيه أهل السنة، وإن كانوا عند التحقيق ليسوا على طريقة السنة المحضة لِما تلبسوا به تقليدا للمتكلمين.
@@Mohammed-jf2sp سدد الله خطاكم
@@2ARM4170 وإياك يا غالي.
Yes. See here: ruclips.net/video/vK8nIytfS_s/видео.htmlsi=S_6Cdb7VTwqckdMu
@@Mohammed-jf2sp
لا يطلق عليهم اهل سنة بل كلهم اهل بدع عالمهم ومقلدهم ولا يوجد شيء اسمه اهل سنة في ما وافقوا فيه أهل السنة كما لا يقال للنصارى مسلمين فيما وافقوا فيه الإسلام
وان تحدثنا عنهم في باب الصحابة فنعم هم موافقين لاهل السنة في هذا ولكن لا يقال عنهم اهل السنة بل هم من اهل الزندقة
والمقلدين لا يعذرون بمخافتهم لمعلوم من الدين بالضرورة مثل علو الله تعالى على خلقه فهذه المسألة فطرية ويوجد عليها اكثر من الف دليل
قال شيخ الإسلام في بيان تلبيس الجهمية (2/45) :
" ولا يقدر أحد ان ينقل عن أحد من سلف الامة وأئمتها في القرون الثلاثة حرفا واحدا يخالف ذلك لم يقولوا شيئا من عبارات النافية أن الله ليس في السماء والله ليس فوق العرش ولا انه لا داخل العالم ولا خارجه ولا ان جميع الامكنة بالنسبة اليه سواء ولا انه في كل مكان او انه لا تجوز الاشارة الحسية اليه ولا نحو ذلك من العبارات التي تطلقها النفاة لان يكون فوق العرش لا نصا ولا ظاهرا بل هم مطبقون متفقون على أنه نفسه فوق العرش وعلى ذم من ينكر ذلك بأعظم مما يذم به غيره من أهل البدع مثل القدرية والخوارج والروافض ونحوهم
وإذا كان كذلك فليعلم ان الرازي ونحوه من الجاحدين لان يكون الله نفسه فوق العالم هم مخالفون لجميع سلف الأمة وأئمتها الذين لهم في الامة لسان صدق ومخالفون لعامة من يثبت الصفات من الفقهاء وأهل الحديث والصوفية والمتكلمين مثل الكرامية والكلابية والأشعرية الذين هم الأشعري وأئمة اصحابه ولكن الذين يوافقونه على ذلك هم المعتزلة والمتفلسفة المنكرون للصفات وطائفة من الأشعرية وهم في المتأخرين منهم اكثر منهم في المتقدمين وكذلك من اتبع هؤلاء من الفقهاء والصوفية وطائفة من أهل الحديث "
وقد قال شيخ الإسلام قبل كلامه السابق :" وسئل عبد الله بن ادريس عن الصلاة خلف اهل البدع فقال لم يزل في الناس اذا كان فيهم مرضي او عدل فصل خلفه قلت فالجهمية قال لا هذه من المقاتل هؤلاء لا يصلى خلفهم ولا يناكحون وعليهم التوبة قال وقال وكيع بن الجراح الرافضة شر من القدرية والحرورية شر منهما والجهمية شر هذه الاصناف قال البخاري وقال زهير السجستاني سمعت سلام بن ابي مطيع يقول الجهمية كفار
وكلام السلف والائمة في هذا الباب اعظم واكثر من ان يذكر هنا الا بعضه كلهم مطبقون على الذم والرد على من نفى ان يكون الله فوق العرش كلهم متفقون على وصفه بذلك وعلى ذم الجهمية الذين ينكرون ذلك"
وقال البخاري في خلق أفعال العباد 70- وَحَدَّثَنِي أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ ، قَالَ : سَمِعْتُ الْحَسَنَ بْنَ مُوسَى الأَشْيَبَ ، وَذَكَرَ الْجَهْمِيَّةَ فَنَالَ مِنْهُمْ ، ثُمَّ قَالَ : أُدْخِلَ رَأْسٌ مِنْ رُؤَسَاءِ الزَّنَادِقَةِ يُقَالُ لَهُ شَمْعَلَةُ عَلَى الْمَهْدِيِّ فَقَالَ : دُلَّنِي عَلَى أَصْحَابِكَ فَقَالَ : أَصْحَابِي أَكْثَرُ مِنْ ذَلِكَ فَقَالَ : دُلَّنِي عَلَيْهِمْ فَقَالَ : صِنْفَانِ مِمَّنْ يَنْتَحِلُ الْقِبْلَةَ ، الْجَهْمِيَّة وَالْقَدَرِيَّةُ ، الْجَهْمِيُّ إِذَا غَلاَ ، قَالَ : لَيْسَ ثَمَّ شَيْءٌ وَأَشَارَ الأَشْيَبُ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ وَالْقَدَرِيُّ إِذَا غَلاَ قَالَ : هُمَا اثْنَانِ خَالِقُ شَرٍّ ، وَخَالِقُ خَيْرٍ ، فَضَرَبَ عُنُقَهُ وَصَلَبَهُ.
Love you bro ❤
Salam, jazak Allahu khairan for your efforts brother Jake!
Do you not think it would be better to not comment on complex aqidah issues of difference of opinion that could confuse so many Muslims that are weak in their faith. I personally believe this video will definitely do more harm than good for the community.
Again, this isn’t a jab at Jake or his efforts just some constructive criticism. I’ve been loving and watching Jake for a long time now!
Wa alaykumu salaam. This isn't a complex aqeedah issue. Allah says very clearly countless times in the Qur'an that He does different things at different times. You either accept it or you don't.
Thank you Jake, I downloaded your paper. I will read, then see more on your opinion.
Bro the master volume is a bit low compared to the average on YT, can you push it up a bit please?
Sorry, it must be on your end.
assalamualaikum, i like the real name as channel name, comes of more academic and proffesional, allahumma barek
Side question, did you get rid of your Muslim Metaphysician moniker? If so, why?
Easier to find
Brotha may Allah bless your work could make a whole video dedicated to the atharis and asharis and also do some reaction to video of a very popular shaky asrar rashid
Well said brother Jake as always Masha Allah, philosophy is doubtful science it doesn't go along with faith
Q: putting istighatha aside, Won't Prophets, Scholars, Hufaaz, Saints etc. intercede for us on the day of judgement? If yes, then this hypothesis of yours to accuse Asharis and Maturidis of appealing to intermediaries doesn't make sense. Because there are already intermediaries present as per Quran for intercession. Of course, they will intercede if Allahs wills.
Can you show me some examples?
If I remember correctly, the only intercessions that are authentically narrated is that of the Qur'an and of the Prophet ﷺ. Also, Prophet ﷺ will intercede for us after everyone, including the Prophet ﷺ is resurrected. He's ﷺ alive in the life of barzakh but so is every other muslim. But not alive in this dunya.
So to compare the aakhira and conflate it with dunya is a major error.
PS: No one's dead in the Aakhira!
No, it's not because people need that here and now, not merely in the afterlife.
@@JakeBrancatella I didn't understand your answer, brother.
@@SayfumaniMyGof what?
24:00 To further support your point, here are some Arabic quotes (untranslated):
قال اللالكائي في الجزء الاول من شرح أصول اعتقاد أهل السنة والجماعة صـ١٣٧:
١٩٧ - أَخْبَرَنَا عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ أَحْمَدَ , قَالَ: أَخْبَرَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ يَزِيدَ , قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ الْخُرَاسَانِيُّ , عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ أَبِي عَرُوبَةَ , عَنْ قَتَادَةَ , عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ الْمُسَيِّبِ , قَالَ: «إِذَا تَكَلَّمَ النَّاسُ فِي رَبِّهِمْ وَفِي الْمَلَائِكَةِ ظَهَرَ لَهُمُ الشَّيْطَانُ فَقَدَّمَهُمْ إِلَى عِبَادَةِ الْأَوْثَانِ»
أقول : هذا الأثر عن التابعي ابن المسيب يبين لنا سبب انتشار القبورية والتعلق بالأضرحة على إثر انتشار علم الكلام والانحراف العقدي في باب أسماء وصفاته المتمثل بالتجهم بأنواعه
وذلك أن الناس إذا عطلوا صفات الله عز وجل انصرفت قلوبهم عنه لأنها مفطورة على التعلق بإله له أسماء وصفات لهذا كان عدد ممن تأثر بشبهات المتكلمين ينهى عن نشر كلامهم بين العوام ويقول نفوسهم لا تأنس إلا بالإثبات
قال ابن الجوزي في صيد الخاطر صـ١١٦-١١٧: " فإذا امتلأ العامي والصبي من الإثبات، وكاد يأنس من الأوصاف بما يفهمه الحس، قيل له: {لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَيْءٌ} [الشورى: 11] ، فمحا من قلبه ما نقشه الخيال، وتبقى ألفاظ الإثبات متمكنة. ولهذا أقر الشرع مثل هذا، فسمع مُنْشِدًا يقول: "وفوق العرش رب العالمينا" فضحك. وقال له آخر: أو يضحك ربنا؟ فقال: "نعم" وقال: "أنه على عرشه هكذا".كل هذا ليقرر الإثبات في النفوس!
٣٢٠- وأكثر الخلق لا يعرفون الإثبات إلا على ما يعلمون من الشاهد، فيقنع منهم بذلك، إلى أن يفهموا التنزيه. ولهذا صحح إسلام من انفتل بالسجود. فأما إذا ابتدئ بالعامي الفارغ من فهم الإثبات، فقلنا: ليس في السماء! ولا على العرش! ولا يوصف بيد! وكلامه صفة قائمة بذاته، وليس عندنا منه شيء! ولا يتصور نزوله: انمحى من قلبه تعظيم المصحف، ولم يتوضع في سره إثبات إله. وهذه جناية عظيمة على الأنبياء، توجب نقض ما تعبوا في بيانه، ولا يجوز لعالم أن يأتي إلى عقيدة عامي قد أنس بالإثبات فيهوشها، فإنه يفسده، ويصعب صلاحه."
ثم تكلم بأن العالم الذي يؤمن عليه هذا يقرر له عقيدة "التنزيه" التي هي التعطيل في الحقيقة وهذا عين ما كان يقرره الغزالي في "إلجام العوام عن علم الكلام" وهذا يسمى منهج التخييل والذي استخدمه ابن سينا لما كلموه بأن ظواهر النصوص تخالف مذهبه في بعث الأجسام فقال الأنبياء كلموا الناس على ما يعقلون وإلا الواقع خلاف ذلك واستخدم هذه الحجة عدد من الأشعرية والمتأثرين بهم في نصوص الصفات مع رفضهم لهذا في نصوص المعاد ولا يخفى ما في هذا الكلام من اتهام للأنبياء ولفطر الخلق من أجل معقولات ظنية ، وعامة الجهمية اليوم لا يعملون بهذه الوصايا ويسعون في نشر عقائدهم بين عوام لا يقارنون بعوام أزمنة الأوائل (واللطيف أن عدنان إبراهيم استخدم هذه الحجة في خطبته عن الزمن لما شعر أنه تكلم بما يخالف ظاهر القرآن قال أن القرآن يخاطب الناس على قدر عقولهم وهو يقف على المنبر ويتكلم بهذا الذي لم يحمله عقول الأوائل)!
وفعلاً انمحى تعظيم المصحف من القلوب ، وفيها عطش فعادت إلى التعلق بالأولياء والأنبياء ممن لا يجدون مشكلة في وصفهم بالصفات الثبوتية
وسبحان الله كانت حجج أئمتنا الكرام على الجهمية تتناول القبورية فعلى سبيل المثال عامتهم كانوا يحتجون بحديث (أعوذ بكلمات الله التامات من شر ما خلق) على أن كلمات الله غير مخلوقة لأنه لا يستعاذ بمخلوق فيما لا يقدر عليه إلا الله
والإمام أحمد له كتاب في الآيات التي يستدل بها على الجهمية فاستدل بآيات تتعلق بتوحيد الألوهية مثل قوله تعالى : (فَإِذَا رَكِبُوا فِي الْفُلْكِ دَعَوُا اللَّهَ مُخْلِصِينَ لَهُ الدِّينَ فَلَمَّا نَجَّاهُمْ إِلَى الْبَرِّ إِذَا هُمْ يُشْرِكُونَ)
ووجه الرد على الجهمية أن منهم من يقول أسماء الله مخلوقة فكيف يدعى مخلوق وقد أمرنا بتوحيد الله وهذه الحجة تظهر بشكل أكبر عند ذكر قوله تعالى (ولله الأسماء الحسنى فادعوه بها) ووجه الحجة الثاني أن الآية دالة على أن الاسغاثة به توحيد وبمخلوقاته شرك فمع حديث (أعوذ بكلمات الله التامات) ودلالة الآية يعلم أن كلمات الله عز وجل ليست مخلوقة بل أفعال لازمة له سبحانه ، ثم يأتي من ينتسب زوراً لمذهبه ويجيز الاستغاثة بالمخلوقات هادماً أصلا من الأصول التي بنى عليها إمامه رده على الجهمية
وهذا كلام لشيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية في الجزء الرابع من جامع المسائل صـ٤١٧:
”وكان قدماء الجهمية الذين ينكرون أن يكون الله فوقَ عرشه يقولون: إنه بذاته في كلّ مكانٍ، وإنه حالٌ في كل مكانٍ، وهو رأيَ طائفةٍ من متصوفة الجهمية مثل الديلمي ونحوه، وأما علماء الجهمية وفضلاؤهم فلا يصفونه إلاّ بالسلب، ليس داخلَ العالم ولا خارجَ العالم، ولا هو فوقَ العرش ولا في العالم ونحو ذلك. وكان السلف وأئمة الدين يعلمون أن هذا القول يستلزم نفيَ ذاته، ويقولون: إنما يدورون على التعطيل.
وهذا هو الذي أوقعَ هؤلاء الملاحدة الاتحادية في زعمهم أنه هو هذا الوجود، فإن العابد لا يَقدِر أن يَعبُد إلاّ شيئًا موجودًا، فإن الإرادة والقصد لا يتعلق بمعدوم، بخلاف الوصف والكلام، فإنه يتعلق بموجود وبمعدوم.
فالمتكلمون بالنفي إذا لم يُثبتوا وجودًا تكون قلوبهم خالية من تحقيق العبادة، لأن ذلك ليس هو مطلوبهم ومقصودهم، ولهذا يَغلِب عليهم القسوة والإعراض عن العبادة لله ولغيره، وأما أهل الإرادة والعبادة من الصوفية والعامة ونحوهم إذا لم يتوجهوا بقلوبهم إلى رب العالمين الذي وصفتْه رسلُه لمحمد - صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ -: (هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ فِي سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ ثُمَّ اسْتَوَى عَلَى الْعَرْشِ يَعْلَمُ مَا يَلِجُ فِي الْأَرْضِ وَمَا يَخْرُجُ مِنْهَا وَمَا يَنْزِلُ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ وَمَا يَعْرُجُ فِيهَا وَهُوَ مَعَكُمْ أَيْنَ مَا كُنْتُمْ) (1)، الذي هو فوق السماوات، فلابُدَّ أن تتعلق قلوبهم بموجودٍ ما، فتارةً يتعلقون بأنه بذاته في كلّ مكان، وتارةً تتعلق بحلوله أو اتحادِه ببعض الأشخاص كالمسيح وعُزَير وغير ذلك، وتارةً يتعلقون بعبادة الملائكة أو الكواكب والأصنام ليتقربوا بها إليه، فإنه لابُدَّ للقلب من صَمَد يُقْصَد إليه بالعبادة حق موجودٍ.
والصفات السلبية لا يتعلق بها القلبُ ولا يطمئن، فإنّ قصدَ العدم كعدمِ القصد، وعبادة المعدوم كعدمِ العبادة. فهذا الجهل والضلال بصفات ربّهم هي التي أوقعتْهم في عبادة ما سواه. ثم إنه يحصل من أحدهم توجُّهٌ إلى الله وعباد له، فيشهد بقلبه الوجود القائم بأمره، ويرى أن حكم الله وسلطانَه سارِي في جميع الكائنات، فيعتقد أن ذلك هو الله الخالق، مثل من رأى شعاع الشمس فاعتقد أنه رأى الشمس وإنما رأى أثرها“.
أقول: هذا النص نفيس جداً من كلام الشيخ وهو يبين لنا سبب انتشار القبورية ووحدة الوجود في المعطلة فيقول لك: أنهم لما عطلوا وجود الله بقولهم (لا داخل العالم ولا خارجه)، ثم هم نفوا أفعاله الاختيارية وكلامه بحجة تنزيهه عن الحدوث فما بقي سوى مفعولاته وهي المخلوقات، وفيهم فطرة عبودية فظنوها عين ذاته أو تعلقوا بالأولياء والمقبورين وصرفوا لهم الرغبة والرهبة.
Is it fair to say that the "time" that Allah SWT does actions in the sequence of is not the same kind of time as our universe as we know that time is a physical dimension of the universe that can stretch and bend cuz of gravity?
All time means here is a genuine sequence of before and after to His actions that He, Himself, is aware of as well.
جزاك الله خير
Bro have you thought of debating anyone on this topic? (Athari vs Ashari/Maturidi Aqeeda), there are guys who are willing to debate, such as Asrar Rasheed.
would love to see this debate or atleast an exchange, inshaallah many would benefit from the knowledge of both of you
He has a debate, he lost it bad
@@primetube4593 Who Jake? I haven't seen one.
@@primetube4593 feel free to link it
Jake vs Khalil Andani
Sheikh Hamza Yusuf has dedicated his life to studying Islam and knows what he is talking about. Brother, you need more time to study the deen. Don’t just rush to criticize the scholars. Stop dividing Muslims with these types of videos and focus on rectifying your own shortcomings.
ruclips.net/video/jKzfUu7B7Jk/видео.htmlsi=UEfeF1Q45IgaFmcd
hes not a scholar
Don’t be a moron.
Q: why can't one believe simultaneously that time is Allah's creation with Him being NOT bound by time and Him knowing the present? Why according to you believing in one automatically means negating the other?
Let me simplify things. Does Allah know that it is the year 2025 right now?
@@JakeBrancatellawhen someone asked a question in response to your question you didn't entertain his question.
What is your motive behind asking this question? Are you saying Allah don't know about future?
I am trying to think about this, I do lean towards believing that God created time, meaning that every second that goes by wouldnt exist if Allah did not will it to. Thereby even if we said time is a relative thing not a creation, it would only be possible because Allah can will things into being, in succession to each other.
However, that does not mean that Allah is bound by time, because Allah can see and act in past present future.
I dont know, may Allah forgive me if I said anything wrong, I did not mean it. Wallahu 2a3lam
@@Ryuk-apples I don't know what you mean by "Allah is bound by time." I never used such language. When you said that new moments only exists because Allah can will them into being in succession to each other, then of course I agree with that. However, the question is, does Allah Himself act or create successively? Does He do different things at different times?
@@JakeBrancatella I did not say that those were your words. Im meant that some people might have the wrong interpretation of your words and think that saying Allah acts successively means that he is bound by time.
I do believe that Allah acts successively when he wants to, as is apparent in the Quran as you mention.
Quick question, does Imam Ibn taymiyah believe that Allah has not created time? Im wondering because I dont know whether this is an important issue in our belief, I dont want to diverge from the truth. And to be clear, I am not Ashari, I do not believe that the Sifat of Allah azza wa jal are not understandable, I do Ithbat like Ibn taymiyyah explains.
Haqq 100%
Keep exposing these jahmyiah brother jake
I can't listen to Hamza Yusuf. Nails on a chalkboard.
They call him hamza useless.
The only good thing I heard him say is salafi ulema like Sh ebn Baz denounced "sewer side b0ms" before almost anyone else.
It’s a shame, he was the man in the mid 2000’s before he got to political and went left a little
The same happens to me when I hear the voice of yasir qhadi! I can't stand his voice! 😅 astaghfirullah
Based take@@Raf-xd4ut
Hahaha I feel the same
Jake i remember your video on a athiest guy ,you asked him Can something come from Nothing
Yes finally ''The Ashari Chronicles Series'' 🤪🤫we need more of it to talk about the diffirences and similarities about the creed of salafiya and what came next like the ashaï'iraah, jahmiyaah, qadariyaah etc etc..
Jazakom Allah khair
JAK. It is sad to hear some historians claiming that Ashari and maturidi creeds are what the salaf have followed!! Complete bunkers.
www.academia.edu/121022345/Asharism_The_Creed_of_the_Ummah
The common person who calls himself ashari is usually opposed to these teachings. It's mostly an emotional plight.
Side note; I liked Muslim Metaphysician better, just saying.
Of course they are because they know what the Qur'an says and they are upon the fitra. You can refer to me as you'd like to.
@JakeBrancatella It gave a sort of warning to the pseudo philosophers out there, but Alhumdulilah, your name is enough to put them on edge. JizzakAllah Khairan.