MTA tests new fare gates in Queens
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- A new design for the subway turnstile is turning heads. It's the first big test of a new way in and out of the system.
NYC Transit will evaluate the usage by commuters and the effect on fare evasion
Fare evasion will still happen through the emergency door. People will find a way. The mta knows this
It's almost like most people can't afford the cost of necessities
@@ZenithReach can u afford it for them no so stfu if ur not giving out jobs
There’s no emergency door
@@ZenithReachpeople could afford $3
How about putting up something so that people can’t fall or be pushed onto the tracks so easily!?
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That would cost tens of billions of dollars to do. Its never going to happen.
Tokyo has something like that. We could learn a lot from them.
@@RunningGuy212 I was just about to write that.
Unless New Yorkers support increase congestion pricing, Mta will have a tough time to pay and build platform screen doors.
these gates look like they can be pulled open. these gates also look like they will break like it's nothing.
They’re not high enough.
This. OR low enough, it appears.
All this but bad service still so backwards
Fare evaders can “rush ” thru, by sticking closely behind the fare payer in the front.
@@MQJ007 that may be one of the reasons for fare evaders. Some do it because they can.
@@MQJ007 mta has a reduced fare program if they're poor. Students get subsidized metrocards with 3 rides per school day.
@@MQJ007Yeah struggling students and poor folks with the latest iPhone and $500 sneakers.
@@MQJ007students get green metrocards that gives them three free rides a day.. Stop with the bs. No one feels bad.
@@MQJ007yup skipping is annoying but I’m a student and I rather use $2.90 for a butter roll at the bodega or for sandwich 🙊😭
And what about the buses, no one is paying to get on.
I'm never going to pay!!!
I'm never gonna pay!!!!!!!!
@@SouthBoogiesFinest You're never NOT gonna be a loser!!!!!
Here’s a problem I wish there was fixed. I am the oldest brother and living not from New York but in Connecticut. We used to live in NY and we use the train to get there but at New York, we need to buy tickets to enter and get on the train but we’re 5 and paying is too expensive so we do 2 people my parents would stay and pay for one and my two siblings will go under the card scanner and after getting through, I felt guilty and wanted some way to get without getting in trouble so pls MTA, good job working for people who have items that can’t fit in the past now working for Everyone and getting to everywhere and maybe have a system to put like a group like 4 minimum by the ticket cost times 4 so people can go fast and not having to be embarrassed. Ty MTA
I use to live in NY and this is a huge step. But now I live new hampshire and work for the MBTA and let me tell u they have similar fare gates like this and let me tell u I've witnessed ppl tale gating other ppl like car's to go through the gates and some that have friends with them hold them to prevent them from closing. So hopefully ny keeps there agencies close by those new fare gates so that doesn't happen to them.
Mta lose more money in maintenance and upgrades than fare evasion they make around 4 billion a year and around 7 billion from taxes is 500 mil going to be profit even after been subsidized by taxes
It is on their website where the money goes, people sure will pass this comment by like sheep.
The lady that said that fare evasion won’t stop is 100% correct. As long as humanity exist, fare evasion will always exist. The MTA knows this too.
I agree.. I will be one of the people evading fares
@@anewyorkaI also agree. You can install new gates that will slow fare evasion down.....but you can't design a system that will be 100% asshole-proof. You'll always have the straggling losers who are so proud to show their true colors. So keep up the good work.🙄
If the MTA wants my $2.90, then ask my employer and my landlord for it because some weeks are harder than others even will working +40hrs and making a decent salary. Don't judge people just because they can't afford to pay some days, living in NYC is tough. Crazy bosses, attitudes, more workload, higher rent, higher groceries, shortages in supplies, slow trains, crazy people etc...
Should be free w all the over taxation going on
Exactly they even want to raise the fare I think they should make everything free for fares it’s tough enough living in nyc
@@GerogeChanI agree. Public transportation should be free. People shouldn't have to sacrifice to get to work/ school.
You're right. People think only a certain kind of people hop the train and busses but I can attest that I've seen all walks of life evade the fare including orthodox Jews.
I can already see these being stomped on (Sparta kick) style and because these are electronically operated, it will malfunction for weeks just like the escalators and elevators before they get fixed using actual fare payers money.
This is in Europe. Those doors don't stay open long. You have to get through quick. And they don't break closing if you take your time getting through
As much as the elevators and escalators stay out of service, I bet this new gate will as well! Now we will have turnstiles that we can’t use. Creating a bottleneck to get through the working ones😩
How do we get the MTA provide a clean, efficient and reliable service. They are always complaining about the fair evaders how they are trying to stop them but they never talk about what are they doing to provide a cleaner, reliable and efficient service.
I agree make the system something people feel is worth paying for and they’ll have some surprising results.
Maybe they could if they had the 500 million lost to fair evaders
That is just an excuse not to provide the proper service. There is more 8.468 million people in NYC most of the population uses public transportation at $2.90 the ride to go and come back from any errands that is 5.80 per day is you going to work weekly metro card is $34 that is per person. Let say half of the population buys week metro card in a week the MTA has $143.956 that is not including the per ride there is no excuse for the kind of service we get. They say is the largest transportation system it large because of the population but not because they have large physical lines of service. Makes us wonder how much all does people CEO and all does people that not doing nothing is packing up. No excuses we deserve better 500 something evader is just tickle in the hands of the CEO and who ever is packing up the rides money
You can't spend what you don't have
Because of people who thinks the way you do is why companies are the way they are abusing the need of those who can avoid using their services. Over charging. My point of initial comment was the MTA should provide the service they should to all does who do pay besides finding ways to to stop evaders.
They don't look strong enough to stand up to being stomped by the usual respectful suspects.
This resembles Europe… and people still hop at night in Europe just like they do in NYC.
The only thing thats going to stop fare evasion is uniformed MTA worker standing at the turn-styles… with a big radio ready to call transit police if anybody hops.. and not those lazy looking green vested security guards. There should be transit cops waiting in every station 2 in a squad car outside and 2 in the station and not hiding.
Maybe make sure I don’t die just because I’ve decided to take the metro…
Don't blame transit for that blame the DA for letting those people back out immediately 😂
They are going open the emergency door and let in all of their classmates. Happens every day at Metro tech
I saw detective helping an old lady on Utica avenue, so nice to see.many of detectives and officers helping people.
I hope this works out good but my worries will this be up for a long time and can NYC MTA lower down the train fare 😭 NYC train system sucks
I think the fare should be free 😕
That would never stop fare evaders
The Mta should be free... ima keep hopping the Iron 🐎 !!!💪💪💥💥🏌♂️🏌♂️
Fare evasion needs to lead to arrest and ticketing. I’ve seen evaders rush past the disabled on buses and then refuse to move from the disability seating. Fact is decent people aren’t fare evaders.
Just because you personally don’t witness arrests doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Officers do the best they can. Things will never be perfect. I honestly pay my fare and don’t pay attention to what others are doing. That’s the best way to live.
@@jamesrichardson900clearly you do not live here. You cannot be arrested for jumping the turn style or evading...
Absolute worst case scenario is a ticket which the vast majority of the demographic that evades paying will never pay
No cop is going to waste their time trying to enforce this. I watched a group of five dark themed individuals jump the turn style right in front of two cops last week. I looked at the cops who looked back at me and just shrugged their shoulders.
If they had tried to ticket these individuals, it would have become a huge scene with these mental midgets screaming racism!
Um ok… but once someone’s swipes and them doors open I can just rush right behind them… Useless 😂
So hold off on armed guards for passengers but put in new fare gates?
That would be extremely expensive.
Unfortunately many fare evaders are determined to find ways to circumvent the system. It's about time we finally moved past turnstiles but hopefully this makes a big enough impact and fares can stop rising so quickly. Fare evasion is something that should've been taken more seriously beforehand so that fares didn't come to the point that even people who clearly have an unlimited card feel compelled to not swipe. While I do welcome this I believe it may be too little too late. Only time will tell. It really just seems like nyc transit has turned into a freerunning course.
There will always be a way to cheat, human Nature and Someone will sell fake cards or find a loophole to get in free. Now these ones people will push you from behind to get in, knock you down top
What you mean unfortunately ... MTA has Billions, nothing unfortunate about that .
@@darylemorris2292 unfortunately for the other riders because it's a waste of funds they could be using to improve the quality of the ride for paying customers. Fare evasion will continue to happen (especially if people continue to feel like they're getting shafted). I'm not sure how you read my comment as pro MTA but it's not. I appreciate that we have a half decent transit system but I can also recognize the MTA's continued negligence and disregard for the things that are really important.
I agree
Unfortunately, fare evasions still occurs with gates. There have been news about people running past the gate after 1 person pays.
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They put them first at this station because this is a location where a lot of lebrons jump the turnstiles everyday.
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I agree with every word in your sentence....except for one. Replace the word "LeBrons" with "losers" and then your sentence will ring true 100%.
@@Markjenson1894those are the same type of racist idiots who think only Black people hop the train.
Another Waste of Money Everyday it gets more dumb and dumber
Thankfully, I will still be driving my motorcycle and not contributing a single dime to the MTA
Congrats? 🥇
drive safe
The best type of gate to prevent fare evasion is the high swing door type the MTA has had for decades.
You could fit two people in that, what you talking about. I want my Big Mac, screw fares.
True, but people in wheelchairs would have a hard time getting through
Screw your big mac. So lazy.
The gates should be higher. The most determined fare evaders will jump or hoist themselves right over them, and someone can walk through right behind you if you're not paying attention. People are that bold to do it.
There's possibility of someone running up behind you and entering as soon as the gate opens
Don’t tell me it took 3 MONTHS just for the news to post this
Haha apparently because we know they didn't JUST put those there.
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Whutz g😅ing to prevent 2/3 ppl from 🚶🏾♀️ 🚶🏼♂️ thru the 😂pening?
They can still slide under though lol smh🤦🏽♂️
That looks easier to evade lol.
People still going to hop
Right -- and the "LOSER" imprint on their foreheads will only get bigger.
🤔🤔 500 million can't understand trains are still late,full and the crime is insane, and the homeless are still homeless but I get it (NO I DON'T) but I see the future another fare raise very soon
Step in right direction. Hope it works.
Nothing worst Then Paying My Fare And Watching 40 people Walk through 😳 dam That! Im Saving My Weed Money ☝🏾😤😂😂💯💯
Make the gate taller like the ones in UK
Ok nice that they put that there now can we get the j train to run correctly. Every other week it’s a shuttle bus and that sucks at 4am on the weekends
That’s been going on for years
That shuttle bus is a courtesy that's costing the MTA OT for bus drivers to keep service going while they're repairing the tracks you find like it go get a germ infested Citibike 😂 Why are you out at 4am on weekends? I guess you don't got work in the morning yet here you are whining about the train 🐀
Do it like in Europe tap when you enter , tap again when exiting let’s see if they could still manage to get in.
They use this in London. It works
😂😂😂😂😂😂people will just walk up and over the part where we swipe
Totally! And then everyone in the station will stare at you saying "look at the asshole climbing over the gate"!😅
@@Markjenson1894 you must not be from NYC, people mind there business here😂 and no one hopping the turnstiles will care if someone looks at them 🤷🏽♂️
@@nycdrake7410 Keep up the good work....and demonstrating to today's youth that they can be criminals too is always a good thing...🙄🙄
@@Markjenson1894 take the stick out your A. I’m not telling anyone to do anything and its quite obvious on how to get around these, they don’t need my help. I’m just giving my opinion as a New Yorker on how pointless these new turnstile are. Go cry under someone else’s comments
Fare evasion is an issue but let's not act like the employees who game the system in the MTA from the top to the very bottom, drain the MTA too.
Most people pay their fare throughout the year....it will be very difficult to get everyone to pay .
Make the gates taller and arrest fare evaders! Stop giving them a pass!
screw that, I aint paying
@@MQJ007 word. I ain’t trying to pay, I’m trying to get my Big Mac. F that
@@aintthatright616ur why the fares keep goin up
@@slapshot68 na mta executives want their bonuses , that’s why it keeps going up. I want my Big Mac.
I better start bulking up for when they install these in my neighborhood. By that time i should have a beefy enough build to where i can smash through these things like a football player. I will never pay to take the mta, especially with how expensive it's gotten..
They should invest in a specialized team that will arrest any fare evaders since it’s against the law anyway.
A lot of fare evaders in buses too and drivers just ignore it.
Seriously. The Q6 bus has an high amount of people that don't pay to get on the bus and they go through the front and back doors.
All you have to do is when the person goes is go right behind the person the gate is a timer that shit doesn't change anything
I think it's time for the turnstiles to be replaced, but this design doesn't seem very future proof or modern. Take a look at the metro gates in European cities like Stockholm or Barcelona. They open sideways and are much faster. The ones in this video look super slow to open. Hopefully, the future designs tbey test out are better.
Yep all near BLM subway station near you …free food rent free low education and some how manage to have new Jordan and new cell phone 👍🏻
You don’t like black people I see
It's sickening😮
@@Underdog271that's how you know who's the stupid people.
Slide under
I literally saw someone slide, turns out all you need to do is slide through from one end, this things have a weak point allowing you to slide in and then for some reason they just open after you do it too.
RIGHT HERE THEY NEED TO PUT N.Y.P.D POLICE TRANSIT 🚇🚇🚇 DISTRICT COPS 👮♀️ 👮♂️ 🚔 INSIDE THE SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇🚇 STATION CAB 🚇 CARS NOT AT THE TURNSTYLES WHERE YOU SCAN & PAY 2.90 CENTS WITH YOUR OMNY SCANNER CARD PASS.
Well, that is new. : )
Just reading the comments I understand why the MTA prices keep going up 🤦
MARTA (the system in Atlanta) has these exact turnstiles.
Great, so how do you exit?
They will be broke within a week lol
This is long overdue, I hope it works, these fare invaders will always find some ways to beat the system, good luck.
Jamaica is great place to test
How about we fix the 20-40 minute wait for a train on the weekend or after 12am. Or how about we fix the filthy ass subway system a multi trillion dollar company worried about making more instead of IMPROVING
Wasted billions of $ for this. What a waste of money and time. It already too expensive. $3 one way. Can't even buy a slice for $3. 😆
I don't see how we are saving money with the cost of these new turnstiles. At what point will the MTA start profiting to pay for them
They should just keep the mta free.
It works for Staten Island, Europe. And make it free for the migrants unless they are evading fares too.
Just saying..🤷♂️
What's to keep someone from just going underneath?
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Class....or at least a minimal amount of it....
@@Markjenson1894 not the majority, unfortunately
How about arresting fare evaders on the spot.
With all the cops that station, you would think that would happen more often but it actually doesn't.
Y'all not making the bums and crazies pay when do we gotta!? lol y'all not paying our medical bill if were stabbed to belongings to be replaced if robbed too!
How long before these fare gates are broken in the Bronx?
By the time that door closes 5 ppl already have passed
The MTA sure likes to take the longest way around to try solving a problem. Sure these fare gates look nice but they also look a few kicks away from being destroyed. They seem to want to try everything in the book besides actual fare enforcement. I know its a huge system, you cant have police everywhere in the system at once, even though NYPD patrols seem to have increased quite a lot. But seriously just try some actual enforcement at certain stations. Have NYPD or some peace officers stationed there and make it known that their job is to watch and cite or arrest anyone who jumps the turnstile. Move them around randomly each day. I'm pretty sure they could spare a few officers for an assignment like this. Plus doesn't the MTA still have their own police force? Get in there and make them stop, not just suggest they stop. You won't ever catch them all but catching some is better than none.
You want people to comply provide the device that you promised.
U realize that hoping on the the metal part and and jumping over the gate is not hard
Form looks very similar to ones used in London, except this uses more metal - disabled one is almost exactly the same - great to see, not a fan of turnstiles in general
What about the children, or families that have children under 12. Supposedly any child under 12 get free train rides.
That's a good point. At the station, the other side is the regular turnstiles so they can get through over there.
Why not do away with the fare system and charge it on a bill, like a phone bill for all New Yorkers, reduced the fare from it's current hike down to $1.50. It's already being down on our weekly check for another reason
CAB DRIVER ARE ALL INDIAN NOW THE SUBWAY GONNA BE THAT SOON !
This is ridiculous and a waste of money. Whoever designed this need to be fired. Raising fares for this flaw new designed where these fare invaders will just follow right behind another who paid lol. That door doesn't close fast enough. How about focus more on people's safety first.
Put cameras and or entry based on id.
Aaaaaaand they’re broken
Aaaaaaand more arrests being made on theft of service AND destruction of property.
How about 2 people get in together. Can it be prevented?
Mr. MTA President! What about the Buses🤔? Many people everyday wait the Bus stop to get in by the back door. Specialli, in The Bronx but in other Boros, too. Some people like me get in by the front door and pay and the others not? Its' that fare? I don't think so😡We, whom pays when we take the Bus going to do the same, get in by back door. We hope that you will do the same with the Buses but as soon as possible. We take our money from our pockets while others don't do it.
Cant they still go through by Putting something in front of the sensor and going through anyway.
wow this is going to be intersting
I hear MTA paid $700,000 on one station were u can go under or over it...to me only good for people with walkers
LMFAO see I can pay for my fare. But I always hop cause wtf I'm praying for? A shitty declining system and a hour late to work. My trip to work actually costs $25 because I'm missing a hour of work while just tryna show up on time. Fix the system than I'll fix my fucking attitude twords it
They will be chargeing for the cost of this in a few months oh wait congestion toll nvm.
Sadly I had to take the train the other day and it was the gate it was fast but I was rushing to my vehicle the public transportation is ghetto scary stinky and I’m not looking forward to ever riding again and the fair invaders are ridiculous. They look at you wrong because you paid, and they want to take the seat you didn’t pay stand up.
You must live in Texas
Fix the streets and roads !!!!! Pot holes everywhere!!!
how much fix them when stop working.
Looks like a big waste of money, I guess this is what the MTA needs the new contesting pricing for smh
This is why we pay 290 for shit like this not the service you got people waiting 20 minutes to catch a damn bus
I better start bulking up for when they install these in my neighborhood. By that time i should have a beefy enough build to where i can smash through these things like a football player. I will never pay to take the mta, especially with how expensive it's gotten.
While youre at it, be sure to rewrite the word "ASSHOLE" that is currently inscrawled on your forehead in larger font for when these gates come to your neighborhood.
I'm gonna do more bench press so my chest shoulders and triceps could smash through this easy
@GerogeChan Keep up the good work. Be sure to get a tattoo of the word "ASSHOLE" on those same chest, shoulders, and triceps to demonstrate what category you fall in. Wear it proudly as you "smash through easy".
@Ericnorton1894 so the mta revamping and expanding already rich stations is a way more rider friendly use instead of using it for faster and safer service they don't lose that much money no way all the cops do is stare at turnstiles meanwhile people get killed
@MRSCRAPPZ I bought larry wheels powerbuilding program gimme time my chest shoulder and triceps will explode those gates
MTA makes millions of dollars a day
That old lady in the red coat sounds like a narc.
The gates are too slow. The thugs running up behind you to get through. This is easier for the fare evaders instead of jumping or crawling under the turnstiles.
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