People win the bracket challenge all the time. It’s much cooler to be the person who got the first 49 games right. That’s unbelievable. What a way to snap the winning streak too.
If you picked a 1 to beat a 16, you've only ever been wrong once. But math nerds just like to apply math in any way they can, regardless of if it actually helps (or hurts) context.
@@yomammamilf1980 no they are not. 5/12 somewhat it’s around 37 percent but still not quite close to 50. 4/13 isn’t close at all tho. 6/11 would’ve been a better one to say but no most of these games are not close to coin flips.
In a way...it's almost poetic that he didn't actually WIN the whole thing. But he got to have an amazing and memorable experience with his son, and a RUclips video made about him. Good for Gregg Nigl.
Some people in comments are saying that the odds are not 50/50 per game. Lets hypothetically say you give an average of 70% odds for a team to win. That would be a mix of the 99 to 1 odds of 1/16 or 2/15s, and the more coinflip games in later rounds. Your odds of a perfect bracket of 65 correct answers, when your chance of being correct on every game is 70%, is approximately 1 in 6 billion. Roughly 70 million brackets are filled out every year. So, if we assume you always have a 70% chance of being right(which is probably being generous), it will take an average of 84 years for ONE person to get a perfect bracket.
Back in 2005, on the ESPN Challenge Bracket, I missed one game in the opening set - went perfect the rest of the way as the team I didn't pick in the one opener lost the next round. Tied for first with 32 other brackets who also only had one game incorrect, but lost out on the million dollar prize on the tie breaker, which went to the person who guessed the final score most accurately. Never played a bracket since knowing I'd never come remotely close to matching it.
My best bracket ever was in 2018. I got 15 of the sweet 16 right, 7 of the elite 8 right, three of the final 4 right, and one of the two teams in the National Championship right. Problem is, I picked Virginia to win the National Championship that year. Here's the system I used- I gathered nine statistics on each team- Record Conference Record Non-Conference Record Record in Last Ten Games Current Win/Loss Streak Record against top 25 teams Record against tournament teams Offensive PPG Defensive PPG I compared the statistics in each matchup, and whichever team won more statistical matchups, I picked to win the game.
Back in 7th grade middle school I had a perfect bracket. Sent it in but must have gotten lost. I also didn’t have the cameras on because social media wasn’t as big as it is now. -Flight
Well, there are 67 games in March Madness. Let's be really optimistic that you can predict every game with 90% accuracy. 0.9^67 = 0.00085950445. Good luck!
@@jliu2367 There's no way anyone can pick with 90% accuracy. I would think something like 70% accuracy would be more feasible. That would be a 1 in 24 billion chance.
@@afminto well it’s tough cause in theory the 1 v 16 are 100 percent pretty much, the reason nigel’s did so well that year was cause the biggest upset was one 13 seed won, so it was an easier year than usual in terms of upsets
You know there will be upsets the problem is you try to predict one and miss and miss the ones that do happen. sure they aren’t exactly 50/50 but for basic math to show how impossible it is it works. Every year at least one twelve beats a five seed sometimes multiple even predicting that is a fiasco
You could prolly point out 1 game in ever bracket like this where luck plays a key role. I don’t think making the perfect bracket is all skill, need to have some luck on your side.
only issue is 2:55 picking games isnt like a coin flip, to a degree the higher seed is more likely the victor. Ie any 4 seed v 12 seed games historically yield a >80% chance of the higher seed winning, only once you get to the 7-11 games do you see more parody analogous to a coin toss.
I hate to be that guy but if I flip the coin myself I can accurately tell if its heads or tails. Which I did 100 times in a row with 5 or more spin rotations.
Good explanation of why the scoring system is completely broken. Knowing a 1 beats a 16 should never, ever, ever be as worth as much as correctly picking a 13 to beat a 4. Similarly, picking a 1-3 seeded UNC to make the elite 8 shouldn't be worth double knowing that a 12-seed makes the sweet 16. Way too much emphasis on the later rounds and no payoff for being savvy enough (lucky enough?) to find those sleeper teams. There needs to be a graduated scoring system. Correctly picking an 8/9 game should be a bit more than picking the 1/16 game.
This year I’m going to flip a coin for every game. Probably have the same odds right? 🤔 Rather than trying to analyze matchups or looking at the seeds.
I think it's sort of dumb that an arbitrary score is ascribed to later rounds making them "more important" than early round games. Each game is just a game from a statistical perspective.
@abc def But the first round also includes close games like 7-10 and 8-9. Plus every game is just a game. If you predict 55 games correctly that seems more impressive than 35 but one of them is the final
it's not arbitrary, it's statistics. To predict the winner of late round games before any match results are available you also have to get all of the early round games before them correct. To guess that UVA would beat texas tech in the finals requires you to guess that uva wins its round of 64 game, its round of 32 game, its round of 16 game, its quarterfinals game, its semifinals game, and the finals game, and that texas tech wins its round of 64 game, its round of 32 game, its round of 16 game, its quarterfinals game, its semifinals game, and loses the finals game.
it's harder to pick later round winners than early rounds, that's the point lol. Who's gonna win, a 16-seed or a 1-seed? Who's gonna win, an 8-seed or a 9-seed? There you go.
Umm 🤓: your graph is incorrect as you cannot represent the given data with a line as that would mean there are fractions of brackets and that in between games your bracket would still change.
I had a perfect first weekend, and then lost the very first S16 game, so I was one off that. But unfortunately I threw the sheet away. That was in 1998.
According to 1:31, only 25% of people picked the first game right? And only 10% of people got the first two games right? If you guess randomly, there's a 25% chance you get the first 2 games right and a 50% chance you get the first game right. Implying people are intentionally getting the bracket wrong OR the graphic at 1:31 is literally just a random curve, which kind of makes me doubt they actually have the data? Otherwise, why would they not just use the real graph from the actual data?
Just watched the video no big deal but they were picking on a 64 team tournament. Aren't they 68 teams in the tournament? BTW the coin flip odds don't mean anything...of course the odds of winning for your higher seeds are going to be better than .5
He was giving it as a point of reference, to say that if the bracket was randomly picked this would be the chances of getting it correct. There's another video on this channel that goes more in depth on the statistics of getting a perfect bracket: ruclips.net/video/ExSuTaRLkug/видео.html
9,223,372,036,854,775,808 is number of possible brackets that's why nobody just fills out every possiblity lol nine quintillions 223 trillion different possibilities you have a better chance winning the lotto on the same day you got bite by a shark and struck by lightning
Nobody is going to get anywhere remotely close to a perfect bracket this year. This tournament is going to be an absolute mess.
i know i did an early bracket earlier today and there was so many red flag teams it's insane
My girlfriend is doing one for the first time this year....I told her that her inexperience with basketball will most likely beat me this year😂
Nobody ever gets remotely close dude
There are going to be so many games canceled
Honestly that might give it a better chance
People win the bracket challenge all the time. It’s much cooler to be the person who got the first 49 games right. That’s unbelievable. What a way to snap the winning streak too.
ITS GONNA FEEL SO GOOD TO HAVE MARCH MADNESS BACK
It NEVER should have left.
Not really my team got snubbed
@@ifykykyk what’s ur team
@@CB-jw7uy arizona state
From the future... this is certainly madness....
I had a perfect bracket in 2020
You didn’t kid
@@themcbakstboys6487 everyone did though
There was no March Madness
u don't get the joke
@@hawkknowledge6 Everyone was right because there was no tournament
I think every single sports fan has the same mentality come march 19th. this is my perfect year. and it never is
But I finished my bracket and I can actually guarantee that I picked a perfect bracket this year
Ah, the good ole Dallas Cowboys fan's mentality. "This is the year"
@New Blue You're still correct sir!
very true
To be fair you can’t call a majority of these games “coin flips” because there are odds that work in your favor
If you picked a 1 to beat a 16, you've only ever been wrong once. But math nerds just like to apply math in any way they can, regardless of if it actually helps (or hurts) context.
@@thelastmanonearth2631 If the guy was actually a math nerd, then he would know that 50/50 probabilities have no relevance to bracket picks.
More of these games are closer to coin flips then you think tho. 5/13 and 4/13 games are actually really close to 50/50.
*5/12
@@yomammamilf1980 no they are not. 5/12 somewhat it’s around 37 percent but still not quite close to 50. 4/13 isn’t close at all tho. 6/11 would’ve been a better one to say but no most of these games are not close to coin flips.
In a way...it's almost poetic that he didn't actually WIN the whole thing. But he got to have an amazing and memorable experience with his son, and a RUclips video made about him. Good for Gregg Nigl.
“I’ll beat it this year” - everyone
Woah, that is an amazing bracket! I can never hope to get even near that close 😂😂
I know the 2 people do not that up
Flight has a perfect bracket every year the cameras just aren’t on
Lol
Some people in comments are saying that the odds are not 50/50 per game.
Lets hypothetically say you give an average of 70% odds for a team to win. That would be a mix of the 99 to 1 odds of 1/16 or 2/15s, and the more coinflip games in later rounds.
Your odds of a perfect bracket of 65 correct answers, when your chance of being correct on every game is 70%, is approximately 1 in 6 billion.
Roughly 70 million brackets are filled out every year. So, if we assume you always have a 70% chance of being right(which is probably being generous), it will take an average of 84 years for ONE person to get a perfect bracket.
Back in 2005, on the ESPN Challenge Bracket, I missed one game in the opening set - went perfect the rest of the way as the team I didn't pick in the one opener lost the next round. Tied for first with 32 other brackets who also only had one game incorrect, but lost out on the million dollar prize on the tie breaker, which went to the person who guessed the final score most accurately. Never played a bracket since knowing I'd never come remotely close to matching it.
How fitting that Tennessee was the bracket killer. What a heartbreaking team to root for......
go vols
My best bracket ever was in 2018. I got 15 of the sweet 16 right, 7 of the elite 8 right, three of the final 4 right, and one of the two teams in the National Championship right. Problem is, I picked Virginia to win the National Championship that year. Here's the system I used-
I gathered nine statistics on each team-
Record
Conference Record
Non-Conference Record
Record in Last Ten Games
Current Win/Loss Streak
Record against top 25 teams
Record against tournament teams
Offensive PPG
Defensive PPG
I compared the statistics in each matchup, and whichever team won more statistical matchups, I picked to win the game.
So ur saying it would be prefect from sweet sixteen on if u didn’t pick Virginia
@@FactGolf Yes.
As a UVA fan, I feel for you
Back in 7th grade middle school I had a perfect bracket. Sent it in but must have gotten lost. I also didn’t have the cameras on because social media wasn’t as big as it is now.
-Flight
ok
Really had to pull out that Tennessee game on me
😩 I don’t even need to explain
Bruh I'm a student at UT
@@susanbotsford9995 pain
imagine being a person at home that did it for fun and you actually got it all right. But no one will believe you cause you didn't submit it.
Tbh his bracket should’ve stayed perfect. That was a bs foul call on Lamonte Turner that let the game go into OT
still wouldn't have lasted much longer
that guy just walked in. Late.
I had a perfect bracket in 2016 but it wasn't online me and my buddies wrote it on the back of a napkin at a bar in Philly
sure
You should make a video about the guy who earned 10MM+ every March Madness since 1993
Who, the president of NCAA?
As a Tennessee fan, his bracket ending by us losing in the sweet 16 is painfully ironic. He should've known that's our graveyard
It also helped that 2019 was a very chalky year
That’s fax
He would have busted no matter what because the only game after the 49 he got right was Virginia who ended up winning it all.
@@td9519 wait I don’t remember that story. So virginia won the year after losing to a 16 seed
Would be interesting to hear the odds from someone who understands that the majority of these games are not coin flips.
Well, there are 67 games in March Madness. Let's be really optimistic that you can predict every game with 90% accuracy. 0.9^67 = 0.00085950445. Good luck!
@@jliu2367 There's no way anyone can pick with 90% accuracy. I would think something like 70% accuracy would be more feasible. That would be a 1 in 24 billion chance.
@@afminto well it’s tough cause in theory the 1 v 16 are 100 percent pretty much, the reason nigel’s did so well that year was cause the biggest upset was one 13 seed won, so it was an easier year than usual in terms of upsets
You know there will be upsets the problem is you try to predict one and miss and miss the ones that do happen. sure they aren’t exactly 50/50 but for basic math to show how impossible it is it works. Every year at least one twelve beats a five seed sometimes multiple even predicting that is a fiasco
Remove the vig on the historical MLs from Pinnacle, obv.
He's the Walt Dropo, Pinky Higgins, and Johnny Kling of brackets all rolled into one.
THIS IS THE YEAR I GET THE PERFECT BRACKET I HAVE A FEELING
No
The thing that stinks is that Tennessee should have won if the refs hadn’t called a foul that didn’t happen
You could prolly point out 1 game in ever bracket like this where luck plays a key role. I don’t think making the perfect bracket is all skill, need to have some luck on your side.
@@AZNiteOwl658 yeah but I’m a Tennessee fan😭
2023 march madness there was no chance anyone was going to get a perfect bracket
Why do you recommended this now
Would have been cooler if he did it the year of Buffett's Billion dollar bracket.
Last night Kentucky lost. I might as well burn my bracket while I have the chance.
2022 st Peter's didn't let most people get past round 1
So can I do it on the ESPN fantasy app someone please tell me before 2024 march madness
It’s crazy because the women’s brackets right now has 3 that are perfect through 2 rounds. This record is about to be broken
i wonder what the payout for the 49 legs would have been
I am so ready.
I love it when my 49 leg parlays hit
This was a cool video. Thx MM
Thank you for watching!
I'm gonna be perfection this year to become celebrity!
Wasn’t there a kid that had a perfect bracket years ago? But since he was like 15 he couldn’t collect prize money. There was a interview abt it
No he was like two games away
He got first place in the entire thing, but missed a few games.
give this man gematria and he can go perfect
Shoutout to whoever got one less game
Why do I not remember this at all
the closest i have ever gotten was getting 23 of the first 32 right in a row so not very good lol
This is the year
only issue is 2:55 picking games isnt like a coin flip, to a degree the higher seed is more likely the victor. Ie any 4 seed v 12 seed games historically yield a >80% chance of the higher seed winning, only once you get to the 7-11 games do you see more parody analogous to a coin toss.
KEEP IT UP PURDUE
I love how Texas Tech played a role here
I hate to be that guy but if I flip the coin myself I can accurately tell if its heads or tails. Which I did 100 times in a row with 5 or more spin rotations.
Should have just played the lottery instead of wasting that luck on a bracket.
Brackets don't cost money thi
forsenCD I MUST BE DREAMING
Shoutout to the other guy that chose Buffalo but also broke the record
Best I ever did was get the first round and all but one of the second round right. That was in 2017
I've been filling out brackets since forever it seems. I've never even gotten one region perfect in the first round. That's only 8 games.
If you make 25 you’ll usually get at least 1 perfect region through the first round
Good explanation of why the scoring system is completely broken. Knowing a 1 beats a 16 should never, ever, ever be as worth as much as correctly picking a 13 to beat a 4. Similarly, picking a 1-3 seeded UNC to make the elite 8 shouldn't be worth double knowing that a 12-seed makes the sweet 16. Way too much emphasis on the later rounds and no payoff for being savvy enough (lucky enough?) to find those sleeper teams. There needs to be a graduated scoring system. Correctly picking an 8/9 game should be a bit more than picking the 1/16 game.
I did guess the first 5 games in the tournament in 2018 correctly.
as soon as he found out, it ended
The record has been broken! Sit down Greg, someone has got to 50
Who?
This year I’m going to flip a coin for every game. Probably have the same odds right? 🤔
Rather than trying to analyze matchups or looking at the seeds.
Legend
2020 champion: none, seniors years ruined
I had a perfect bracket a few years ago, I just didn't tell anybody
what about the 15 year old from 2015
That’s what I was thinking. I think he did it on paper so it hasn’t been verified
I had a perfect bracket for 5 games
I think it's sort of dumb that an arbitrary score is ascribed to later rounds making them "more important" than early round games. Each game is just a game from a statistical perspective.
@abc def But the first round also includes close games like 7-10 and 8-9. Plus every game is just a game. If you predict 55 games correctly that seems more impressive than 35 but one of them is the final
it's not arbitrary, it's statistics. To predict the winner of late round games before any match results are available you also have to get all of the early round games before them correct. To guess that UVA would beat texas tech in the finals requires you to guess that uva wins its round of 64 game, its round of 32 game, its round of 16 game, its quarterfinals game, its semifinals game, and the finals game, and that texas tech wins its round of 64 game, its round of 32 game, its round of 16 game, its quarterfinals game, its semifinals game, and loses the finals game.
it's harder to pick later round winners than early rounds, that's the point lol. Who's gonna win, a 16-seed or a 1-seed? Who's gonna win, an 8-seed or a 9-seed? There you go.
I wanna know, was he picking off whatever or was there deep analysis?
Sooo no online brackets with submission dates before March madness?
pft I would've picked Purdue
That's what he gets for going against My Purdue And THE GOAT Carsen Edwards!!!
There was a kid that broke it and GREat Big Story made a video about him
and that was made 5 years ago
Lot of bikeshedders in here who can’t resist pointing out that not all games are 50/50
A couple years ago I got the first 33 games right
No one cares
@@ifykykyk ouch
@@DWEthiopia I mean am i right or am I wrong
Nobody not gonna talk about the kid who never watched basketball who got perfect bracket
He didn’t
2:52 it's not a coin flip for all
He should have played the lottery the day he made the bracket..
Is it bad that I couldn't care less about college basketball but I watch these videos because I'm a stat nerd?
#Peanut butter jelly on wonder bread
How did he finish that low bro
My uncle legit only got three or four games wrong three years ago
Umm 🤓: your graph is incorrect as you cannot represent the given data with a line as that would mean there are fractions of brackets and that in between games your bracket would still change.
I had a perfect bracket in 2020 (0 for 0)
Don’t doubt Purdue 👿🤣
Spoilermakers! =D
But how many did he get wrong after that?
Yo is this the old infographics guy
As the tournament returns in march..... Ha about that
To the one percent reading this
Have a blessed day and remember, you are worth it❤️
Follow your dreams and don’t ever give up ❤️
(i’m trying to grow)
I had a perfect first weekend, and then lost the very first S16 game, so I was one off that. But unfortunately I threw the sheet away. That was in 1998.
"Unfortunately I threw the sheet away"
lol
4:28 not
And he’s a Michigan fan? Let’s go!
State better
@@shawnporterjr2890 yeah that 18 point Maryland loss was very impressive
@@Odyodyody how you lose 30 to the cry baby’s at Illinois
@@shawnporterjr2890 you have 10 losses please be quiet
@@shawnporterjr2890 69-50🤡
3:30 not really
According to 1:31, only 25% of people picked the first game right? And only 10% of people got the first two games right? If you guess randomly, there's a 25% chance you get the first 2 games right and a 50% chance you get the first game right. Implying people are intentionally getting the bracket wrong OR the graphic at 1:31 is literally just a random curve, which kind of makes me doubt they actually have the data? Otherwise, why would they not just use the real graph from the actual data?
I would guess that the first game was a pretty big upset that most people picked the better seeded team and they lost.
Just watched the video no big deal but they were picking on a 64 team tournament. Aren't they 68 teams in the tournament? BTW the coin flip odds don't mean anything...of course the odds of winning for your higher seeds are going to be better than .5
Well in most brackets they list the First Four together (ex: this year they put ND/Rutgers in one spot). So you don’t need to predict that game.
9,223,372,036,854,775,808 that's the number of possible brackets 68 is the number but there is a play in and they are not officially in the tournament
This makes no sense... they are saying through the first 16 games.... There are 4 play in games... dont they count?
Online bracket challenges don't make you pick those. They keep picks open until the morning of the official first round.
"Odds of picking the correct coin flip 48 straight times"
Except that not every basketball game is a 50-50 chance for either team to win.
Lol
He was giving it as a point of reference, to say that if the bracket was randomly picked this would be the chances of getting it correct. There's another video on this channel that goes more in depth on the statistics of getting a perfect bracket: ruclips.net/video/ExSuTaRLkug/видео.html
how dare you doubt the boilermakers, glad to bust a non-believer💀
LIKE WHO WOULD PICK UCLA TO GO TO THE ELITE EIGHT OHHH WAIT I DID
Glad my boilers were the ones to ruin the perfect bracket :)
9,223,372,036,854,775,808 is number of possible brackets that's why nobody just fills out every possiblity lol nine quintillions 223 trillion different possibilities you have a better chance winning the lotto on the same day you got bite by a shark and struck by lightning
Ik but that means if you fill 9.2 quintillion brackets with different outcomes you WILL get a perfect bracket in one of the 9.2 quintillion
@@OvercomeSSC yes but you wouldn't have the time to do that even if a computer problem running from the second it opened to the second it closed
@@Smart-Towel-RG-400 ik but if you do fill out 9.2 quintillion brackets
i think i remember reading some guy got a perfect bracket all the way through but it was on an unofficial website so it didnt count or something
link?
Just fill out the bracket after the games happen duh